"Baby It's Cold Outside" -- Holiday Song? Rapey?

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Let's settle this once and for all.

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It is a holiday song; it is not rapey 26
It is a holiday song; it is rapey 25
It is not a holiday song; it is not rapey 13
It is not a holiday song; it is rapey 8


Alfre, Lord Woodard (Eric H.), Monday, 23 December 2013 23:08 (four years ago) Permalink

you know what would really settle this, is a gawker or buzzfeed 'article' about how creepy this song is

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 23 December 2013 23:11 (four years ago) Permalink

this song is a beating

rip van wanko, Monday, 23 December 2013 23:16 (four years ago) Permalink

I remember that time I took a Women's Studies 101 class and had no concept of the social mores of mid-century of America.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 23 December 2013 23:19 (four years ago) Permalink

To His Coy Mistress: Rapey?

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 23 December 2013 23:23 (four years ago) Permalink

it is a standard that is sung by many people and as such can be played both ways

if you're happy and you know it, it's false consciousness (c sharp major), Monday, 23 December 2013 23:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Whether it's a holiday song or not is incidental, but it is wicked rapey.

Alex in NYC, Monday, 23 December 2013 23:39 (four years ago) Permalink

flirty, morelike.

how's life, Monday, 23 December 2013 23:44 (four years ago) Permalink

What if I acknowledge that is probably is a bit rapey, but won't acknowledge "rapey" as being a word?

MarkoP, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 00:52 (four years ago) Permalink

thought this was easily the highlight of snl the other night - http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/baby-its-cold-outside/n44614/

balls, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 00:53 (four years ago) Permalink

I love this song, hate the word "rapey."

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 01:22 (four years ago) Permalink

^ otm

Mmm yes hello (crüt), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 01:34 (four years ago) Permalink

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7c/aa/e0/7caae0115523c6b3cfc4b9848c24e1f3.jpg

Snowman wants to get cozy
(building around the corner has this on their stoop.)

ian, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:20 (four years ago) Permalink

I love this song, hate the word "rapey."

― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 01:22 (14 hours ago) Permalink

^ otm

― Mmm yes hello (crüt), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 01:34 (14 hours ago) Permalink

yes, please let this word die with 2013

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:21 (four years ago) Permalink

I did vote for it as best Xmas song ever. Obviously morally speaking it is one rung below hitler.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Kinda curious as to what prompts the hatred of the word "rapey" but to ask why would probably bring down clusterfuck, right?

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:27 (four years ago) Permalink

My 1st exposure to this song was the tom Jones cerys Matthews version and my instinctive reaction was UGH no means no tom Jones u fucking creep, but that's tom Jones

sad banta (wins), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:31 (four years ago) Permalink

xp
(1) trivializing to actual rape
(2) implies that there's this middle-ground "rape-ish" category that's not rape but rape-like
(3) just generally smacks of awful blogspeak

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:32 (four years ago) Permalink

I love that this was just a throwaway number for performing to houseguests for about five years, before Loesser thought to record it properly

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:33 (four years ago) Permalink

OK, gotcha. Thanks for the reply, Hurting.

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:34 (four years ago) Permalink

i roofied your driiiiink

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:39 (four years ago) Permalink

Dean Martin version works

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:41 (four years ago) Permalink

really guys, sometimes "Don't go" is not a fucking felony

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:42 (four years ago) Permalink

ty

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

This song did inspire one of the great album titles - Baby, It's Cold Inside by The Fun Years

sad banta (wins), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

Xp well that's the prob with the word "rapey", like I wouldn't draw any equivalence w rape necessarily but persistently not taking no for an answer comes off as fuckin douchey (if its tom jones)

sad banta (wins), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:46 (four years ago) Permalink

Michael Buble is the litmus test

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Bauble is always douchey no

sad banta (wins), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:49 (four years ago) Permalink

Syria, kinda genocidey

tbd (Eazy), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:49 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah it's true, dude could make jingle bells sound gross

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Xp well that's the prob with the word "rapey", like I wouldn't draw any equivalence w rape necessarily but persistently not taking no for an answer comes off as fuckin douchey (if its tom jones)

― sad banta (wins), Tuesday, December 24, 2013 11:46 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Honestly I think whether the person "not taking no for an answer" is being "douchey" or "rapey" or "persistent" is a call for the person saying no to make, not you.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:56 (four years ago) Permalink

i.e. in each respective situation

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:57 (four years ago) Permalink

It's one of those rare duets, maybe less rare in musicals than pop music, where the two singers are actually arguing or at least opposing each other.

tbd (Eazy), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 16:58 (four years ago) Permalink

Hurting these are fictional ppl I get to make the call

sad banta (wins), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:01 (four years ago) Permalink

And maybe it comes down to how its played, I will lol forever at that movie where dude spends the entire running time wheedling to get doris day to put out, because doris day is awesome

sad banta (wins), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:04 (four years ago) Permalink

'lol baby it's cold outside is rapey' is kinda the xmas carol version of 'lol my fave xmas movie is die hard'

balls, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:05 (four years ago) Permalink

1) It's not a "Holiday Song" by any stretch of the imagination. It's a winter song, and the only holiday in it is the slow cooption of anything and everything wintery by Winter Consumerfest.

2) "Rapey". Although I can understand the problems with this specific word, I do think that there is the need for a non-dismissive, non-cutesy, non-trivialising word for saying "things which are not (yet) rape in a legal or moral sense, but are still: similar to rape; contributing to rape culture; or disregarding consent and agency in a way which indicates rape is a distinct possibility."

With this song, written as words on a page, it is almost impossible to tell whether it is "rapey" or not. So much depends on the context (is this an artefact of 1950s morality, or a modern re-reading of something which was then innocent but is now not innocent, or an entirely modern setting which is completely suspect) and the delivery. I have certainly heard versions where it's almost entirely clear to the listener that both parties are engaging in mutually consensual flirtation. I've heard versions where I pretty much want to call the cops to report a rape in progress. Language has changed since the song was written ("Roofies in the drink" is an almost entirely modern construction) and social mores have changed to the point where I'm not even sure *I* can get into the mindset of the woman ("mouse"?) in the song.

However, the whole process of examining the song, the ambivalent lyrics, pouring over every ambiguous line with a microscope to determine if she really is "totally up for it and just being coy because women in the 1950s are not allowed to express sexual desire" or "being drugged or pressured into sex" due clues in their tone and body language - that *process* makes me feel very uncomfortable, and to me, feels "rapey" in the "sustaining or contributing to rape culture" sense. I am prepared to accept that there may be a totally innocent, flirty 1950s reading of the song, where "what's in this drink?" just means "is this vermouth or gin?" But sorting through the reactions of a woman who says "I said no" one moment and "what is this magic spell..." the next and trying to work out consent from those cues, as opposed to just asking "are you into it?" - that is exactly describing rape culture. So I'm voting "rapey".

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:17 (four years ago) Permalink

yep this is my least favorite christmas controversy for like 6 years running now

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:24 (four years ago) Permalink

intersting

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:25 (four years ago) Permalink

This is the first Christmas anyone has even asked me the question.

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:26 (four years ago) Permalink

I think the fact that the girl at the end cheerfully says "baby it's cold outside," (i.e. "ok, I'll stay,") makes it pretty obvious that the song is not "rapey," not to mention that most of her protests are like "what will the neighbors think" kind of stuff. Even having to read it this closely to make the point makes me die inside a little.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:31 (four years ago) Permalink

die hard is a fine christmas movie.

how's life, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:32 (four years ago) Permalink

Taking an ILX question at face value, and answering it seriously, when everyone else is ~so over~ ever having to think about the issue ever again, what on earth was I thinking.

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Just kidding! I missed you guys.

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:37 (four years ago) Permalink

Actually, no, I think reading Godel Escher Bach is starting to look a hell of a lot more appealing right now, yes, I really am bored enough to try and catch up the chapter I missed yesterday.

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:38 (four years ago) Permalink

All winter songs become holiday songs by association xxxxpost

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:40 (four years ago) Permalink

hey i cant help it that i am apparently at the cutting edge of "people finding things to complain about" culture

Wendy Carlos Williams (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:41 (four years ago) Permalink

generally agree with bb above. i don't know this song, don't have a problem with "rapey" unless men are using it (something "the lady doth protest too much" about it) and feel like it's good shorthand for gendered power dynamics because it actually has some leverage in territory that usually doesn't and gets attention, get annoyed when other men get annoyed at "rapey" and huff about "the legal definition of rape" rmde

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:41 (four years ago) Permalink

you know what? dudes getting reactionary and butthurt about this stuff is sooo fucking lame. you all should man up and find something constructive to do with your time.

From the Album No Baby for You! (Matt P), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:42 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh noes, I am a Cis-Het dude being made to think about rape for the whole sixth time in my life, DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP. Why don't they ever shut up.

The Manics: Very Welsh, Much Working Class, So cialist (Branwell Bell), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:47 (four years ago) Permalink

The only two bans I can think of that actually registered were when rock stations that used to play "Walk on the Wild Side" and "Money for Nothing" to death removed them from playlists. I was sick of the first anyway, and they did the world a gigantic favour by banishing the latter. No idea if they're still verboten or back.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:09 (one week ago) Permalink

it's funny, prior to learning anything about this song (besides this thread title) I had assumed the song was from the point of view of a man who was locked outside in the freezing cold begging to be let in to some lady's place (where he would subsequently ravish her a la the Wolf in lil Red Riding Hood)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:22 (one week ago) Permalink

”Oh, I love that song"

Do a lot of people really ... love this song?

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:16 (six days ago) Permalink

Do some people think cucumbers taste better pickled?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:20 (six days ago) Permalink

Everyone thinks that!

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:25 (six days ago) Permalink

Here's a version by Frank Loesser and Lynn though (direct mp3 link)

Cool, thx! Neat to hear

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Thursday, 6 December 2018 01:58 (six days ago) Permalink

The languorous quality of that performance definitely cuts against the “Ricardo Maltalbán as manic horndog” staging in Neptune’s Daughter.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:34 (six days ago) Permalink

If a particular station wants to ban it, they're free to do that. If their listeners don't complain or stop listening, then their decision is cost-free.

every radio station that has ever existed has banned 99.99999% of all songs ever written under this definition of banning

― sans lep (sic), Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:01 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

True enough. This song doesn't exist for 99% of stations anyway. If a jazz station were to ban the Ray Charles/Betty Carter version, or a station that plays a wide array of Christmas music were to ban all versions--and it's not really a Christmas song, although it seems to have been subsumed into that category--then you'd know. If they announced the ban, that is--even those stations could ban it without you actually knowing. Which all underscores how silly this is.

― clemenza, Wednesday, December 5, 2018 6:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I assume that CBC had it in their playlists if they are making an announcement about pulling it. And I do think a national public broadcaster should be held to a different standard when it comes to this sort of decision than a local private business: it exists to serve some sort of public interest and it is appropriate to evaluate its decisions in those terms. I will freely admit, though, that I have no real idea how Radio 2 playlists are decided in the first place, although they seem to get a lot of listeners in Ottawa at least.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 December 2018 09:26 (six days ago) Permalink

http://bigbutterandeggman.tumblr.com/post/154013148291/teachingwithcoffee-its-time-to-bring-an-end-to

Still the best response to this fiasco.

pomenitul, Friday, 7 December 2018 21:29 (five days ago) Permalink

Again, though, some examples to support the historical claim would help. If the drink as a means of plausible deniability was such a common trope at the time, then it should be easy to settle the controversy.

jmm, Friday, 7 December 2018 22:16 (five days ago) Permalink

I'd also like to see examples, out of historical interest -- but considering that the only alternative reading of those lines ("Say, what's in this drink? / I seem to be in some crazy spell / I ought to say no, no, no, sir / At least I'm gonna say that I tried") would be that he literally spiked her drink (while pouring it in front of her), I think it's fairly safe to accept the "performative show of plausible deniability" interpretation... at least following the "Occam's razor school" of holiday-song lyric interpretation.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Friday, 7 December 2018 22:39 (five days ago) Permalink

Also, keep in mind that the song plays out for another full verse, which mirrors the first -- only this time, it's "maybe just a cigarette more..." (instead of a drink). She clearly didn't pass out from a roofie, and the drink didn't seem to put her into much of a stupor.

All this said, I agree with with Zelda's point above that the interplay of desire and consent in the song, and its arguable "trivialization" of / finding humor in the notion of consent, may not fit well with modern sensibilities ("it's nonetheless an example of that old highly gender-specific trope, whereby man tries to persuade woman to do something she has doubts about, for whatever reasons."). I like the song, anyway!

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Friday, 7 December 2018 22:50 (five days ago) Permalink

The song was written to get people leave. Mission accomplished, from my corner.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 7 December 2018 22:54 (five days ago) Permalink

Doubt this song was on CBC R2 playlist to begin with, since it's not a mid-tempo semi-acoustic rocker.

everything, Friday, 7 December 2018 23:00 (five days ago) Permalink

considering that the only alternative reading of those lines ("Say, what's in this drink? / I seem to be in some crazy spell / I ought to say no, no, no, sir / At least I'm gonna say that I tried") would be that he literally spiked her drink

the reading is "woo this liquor is stronger than I thought, teehee" not "YOU HAVE GIVEN ME CHLORAL HYDRATE YOU MONSTER"

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 23:31 (five days ago) Permalink

The point is it doesn't need a dubious claim of being some 1940s movie meme because it literally fucking means something that people would still jocularly say tofuckingday

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 December 2018 23:33 (five days ago) Permalink

This song is actually feminist and I have a thinkpiece that proves it.

Editors, DM me to negotiate a fee

Trϵϵship, Friday, 7 December 2018 23:35 (five days ago) Permalink

xp Yeah, that's basically my point... the lines seem fairly easy to "read" on their face.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Friday, 7 December 2018 23:47 (five days ago) Permalink

(Though I think you could dice it where she's pretending to blame the drink not just for being strong, but for being "spiked"... but of course it's just a pretense, she's making a show.)

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Friday, 7 December 2018 23:49 (five days ago) Permalink

Doubt this song was on CBC R2 playlist to begin with, since it's not a mid-tempo semi-acoustic rocker.

Ha. A couple of weeks ago, they were doing a 'deep dive' into the entire Goodbye Yellow Brick Road album and it finally registered that they're just trolling at this point.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Friday, 7 December 2018 23:51 (five days ago) Permalink

I just heard the Pentatonix version of "Hallelujah" on the radio for the first time this year, and if this is what it is meant to fill the contemporary void left by "problematic" chestnuts like "Baby It's Cold Outside," then I know what side of the issue I strongly reside on now.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 December 2018 02:20 (four days ago) Permalink

A couple years ago I heard a Pentatonix version of "White Winter Hymnal" by Fleet Foxes on holiday Muzak at Denny's and what world is this?

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 8 December 2018 02:35 (four days ago) Permalink

Ugh

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 8 December 2018 06:05 (four days ago) Permalink

Today a friend posted about this and a local playwright who is well-respected (and her husband) barged in to say how rapey it actually is and lambasting how all the people in the thread defending it were male (despite several women, including a local well-knowm actress who is a vocal feminist defending the song above her). And used the usual "what's this in my drink" angle to attack it.

What really set me off is how one of the respondents, who admittedly argued his point poorly, opened up about how he was a sexual assault victim and the response from the husband was basically "I'm sorry you experienced that, but am curious then why you'd want to listen to this song having experienced that".

I lost my shit at the audacity of someone to be so sure that their reading was the only acceptable one that they'd chide an assault victim for tolerating the song. So I pointed out I was sexually assaulted under the exact circumstances that she was accusing the male character of - a man twice my age who picked up on my naive trust and emotional instability, offered me heavy amounts of liquor with the sole purpose of getting me drunk enough to pass out, then unzipped my pants while I was asleep, crawled into bed with me, and did as he wished. And how I still didn't break off our friendship for another two years due to fear, even letting him come to my grandma's funeral and hug my grieving mother and never telling her what he did to me.

I'm not an appeal to authority person and don't presume to suggest this gives me cart blanche to speak for victims but it infuriates me how this debate is going from blog fodder to people suggesting assault victims who don't agree with their reading of the song are audacious because they should "know better". Still fucking angry

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 December 2018 04:40 (three days ago) Permalink

✊ to Neanderthal

sans lep (sic), Sunday, 9 December 2018 08:54 (three days ago) Permalink

pomenitul, Sunday, 9 December 2018 08:58 (three days ago) Permalink

✊🏻

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 December 2018 13:49 (three days ago) Permalink

As a different sort of “appeal to authority”: what do the detractors think of every woman artist who has ever recorded this song; even just those in the “modern era,” from Bette Midler to Dolly Parton to Lady Gaga to Norah Jones to Idina Menzel to Fantasia to Zooey Deschanel (twice)... not to mention all the male artists? Are all these singers taken to be either deluded as to the song’s “true meaning”; or aware of it, and callously willing to perform a vile duet for the $$?

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 9 December 2018 16:23 (three days ago) Permalink

The spiked/not spiked interpretation should be a litmus test... for what I don’t know.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 9 December 2018 17:25 (three days ago) Permalink

There is no way that drink was spiked. Whether it’s good to treat the practice of plying hesitant women with alcohol as a joke is a separate question.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 December 2018 17:32 (three days ago) Permalink

I do think she is supposed to be “playing along” but you know the trope is not great.

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 December 2018 17:33 (three days ago) Permalink

If it's to be interpreted about a woman's sense of self-shame and how society casts morality values on sexual liberation then its still a pretty joyless listen and I dont understand why anyone would want to buy into that

boxedjoy, Sunday, 9 December 2018 17:56 (three days ago) Permalink

For sure

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 9 December 2018 18:03 (three days ago) Permalink

Why is the listener “buying into” anything, necessarily?

I find most holiday songs to be fairly “joyless listens”; this one at least has a friction that makes it interesting.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Sunday, 9 December 2018 18:23 (three days ago) Permalink

I think it’s a joy to listen to.

bruhman & martin's laugh-in (crüt), Sunday, 9 December 2018 19:29 (three days ago) Permalink

i can't believe we still have to see these fucking thinkpieces like 5 years after this thread was started

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 9 December 2018 20:55 (three days ago) Permalink

new borad description plz

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 05:30 (yesterday) Permalink

Twenty years from now, kids listening to "Baby it's cold outside" are gonna find it really, really weird.

We're gonna have to explain that it has to be understood in the context of its time.

You see, it used to get cold outside.

— Zi Teng Wang (@Zi_W) December 10, 2018

big crime for a SPECIAL WHATEVER (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 15:49 (yesterday) Permalink

Sad lols

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 17:40 (yesterday) Permalink

<i>i can't believe we still have to see these fucking thinkpieces like 5 years after this thread was started/<i>

because clickbait

Joe Gargan (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:37 (yesterday) Permalink

That's *their* excuse

I Accept the Word of Santa (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 21:39 (yesterday) Permalink

(Ceeb reversed their decision, citing audience reaction.)

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 23:49 (yesterday) Permalink

I'm just dropping by to reiterate my confusion as to why the word "rapey" needs to exist.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:02 (six hours ago) Permalink

I have no idea if I responded to it way back in 2013, but Hurting's three-item refutation of the word was OTM.

As for the song itself, I've cooled on it - it is certainly creepier to me since it became the subject of an ongoing discussion.

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 00:06 (six hours ago) Permalink

listeing to the updated version of the "baby its cold outside" song where the guy's trying to convince the woman to leave so he can jack off

— wint (@dril) December 12, 2018

ciderpress, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 02:17 (three hours ago) Permalink

Lol came here to post that

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 02:20 (three hours ago) Permalink

Baby I ordered you a Lyft

— Ambassador to South Africa Lana Marxist (@andymosk) December 12, 2018

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:04 (ten minutes ago) Permalink


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