CHANCE THE RAPPER

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Do we have a thread for Chance the Rapper/Acid Rap ?

― Van Horn Street, Friday, September 6, 2013 11:43 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've been meaning to start one cause it's my favorite album of the year by far.

― The Reverend, Friday, September 6, 2013 4:08 PM Bookmark

Yeah, so the thing that makes this album great is it's the sound of an exuberantly joyful character working through some hard shit, the production is colorful, and Chance brings a manic energy to whole thing, bouncing between off-the-wall raps and bluesy scat at will. Also "Pusha Man/Paranoia" is the best rap song this year. His first tape, 10 Day from a couple years back was good too, if not quite as fully formed.

http://www.datpiff.com/Chance-The-Rapper-Acid-Rap-mixtape.483826.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nIHZ-0kS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0DcVbSYWUA

The Reverend, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:23 (six years ago) link

yeah i like the exuberance you mention!

reminds me of pharcyde sometimes

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 September 2013 23:31 (six years ago) link

I think "Chain Smoker" is my favorite deep cut no one talks about off of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bigsk2g7xO8

The Reverend, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:38 (six years ago) link

Pusha Man/Paranoia, Acid Rap and Chain Smoker are my favorites. Hope Favorite Song will be a single. The whole thing is probably my hip-hop album this year.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:40 (six years ago) link

woah i was just listening to acid rap on grooveshark and "carnival" by natalie merchant on spotify at the same time and they synched up in this tripped out way

My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 September 2013 23:50 (six years ago) link

natalie merchant had a secret huge rap mashup

2 Steenz (some dude), Friday, 6 September 2013 23:58 (six years ago) link

I think "Chain Smoker" is my favorite deep cut no one talks about off of this.

lol chain smoker is the only song of his i listen to regularly

fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 September 2013 02:42 (six years ago) link

streamed the whole thing bc of it, it had some nice songs but none of them hit me like chain smoker

fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 September 2013 02:43 (six years ago) link

this album is essentially a legit classic to me

J0rdan S., Saturday, 7 September 2013 02:45 (six years ago) link

The way he switches voices midsong is the source of his strength and weakness imo.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 September 2013 02:57 (six years ago) link

he sounds like what i always assumed donald glover sounded like

chain smoker is ok

johnny crunch, Saturday, 7 September 2013 03:00 (six years ago) link

ow

fuck your movie theater yacht (zachlyon), Saturday, 7 September 2013 03:13 (six years ago) link

I need to revisit the tape, because when I think about it I feel more fond of it than I did when it was new and the quirks of his voice/delivery grated on me easily. And that new song with Lil Wayne is so good, I kinda hope that becomes his big single.

2 Steenz (some dude), Saturday, 7 September 2013 03:28 (six years ago) link

Still cant knock the K'naan comparisons out of my head BUT I still really like him and this tape.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 7 September 2013 03:37 (six years ago) link

Hadnt heard that song w Wayne, ty. Always good to hear wayne just straight-up rappy rapping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOWz0rfe7Y

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 7 September 2013 03:38 (six years ago) link

Still listen to this regularly, and still marvel at how incredible it is. Can't list many recent rap albums that match this level of song craft while sustaining this level of energy while featuring rapping this consistently strong. Incredible.

Evan R, Saturday, 7 September 2013 04:07 (six years ago) link

"Chain Smoker" is just glorious, but my favorite is still "Lost." The way he romanticizes an empty hookup, looking for meaning that's not there, is just so sad and pure. You rarely find that level of affection in rap songs about actual romance, let alone flings

Evan R, Saturday, 7 September 2013 04:10 (six years ago) link

There is no duds on this album.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 7 September 2013 21:20 (six years ago) link

^

The Reverend, Saturday, 7 September 2013 21:24 (six years ago) link

there are 3 tracks in a row dragged down by guest verses though

suggest ban & threadban method man & redman (some dude), Saturday, 7 September 2013 21:26 (six years ago) link

I kind of shamefully like that gambino verse :/

The Reverend, Saturday, 7 September 2013 21:48 (six years ago) link

oh no rev

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 7 September 2013 21:56 (six years ago) link

I love the album, and I know nothing good will come of bringing this up, but I hate the line from Favorite Song about him being a 'slapp-happy faggot slapper'.

Frederik B, Saturday, 7 September 2013 22:17 (six years ago) link

Same

The Reverend, Sunday, 8 September 2013 00:57 (six years ago) link

Yeah it's a sore spot I wonder what he would say if confronted.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 8 September 2013 01:32 (six years ago) link

chain smoker is my fav track.

i have a lot to say abt this but will sit on it for awhile.

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 8 September 2013 04:59 (six years ago) link

Naw son go in

The Reverend, Sunday, 8 September 2013 05:57 (six years ago) link

finally got around to this, sooooooo good.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 15:42 (six years ago) link

i got a lotta love for "cocoa butter kisses"

monotony, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:09 (six years ago) link

As of late, my verses seem not so verse-y

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:19 (six years ago) link

where the fuck is matt lauer at? somebody get katie couric in here

The Reverend, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:35 (six years ago) link

I keep reading this thread as parappa the rapper

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:45 (six years ago) link

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/07/parappasnd425.jpg

"Everybody dies in the summer/ So pray to god for a little more spring"

The Reverend, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:49 (six years ago) link

One of the tensions that makes this album work so is how it's got all these middle-class rap signifiers on the surface but also has all this heavy fucked up street shit lurking just off-camera and sometimes intruding.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 03:58 (six years ago) link

otm

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 08:33 (six years ago) link

this could go on the sad rap thread : (

j., Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:39 (six years ago) link

right, it doesn't at all feel like its running from this stuff

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:45 (six years ago) link

dilluuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

j., Monday, 16 September 2013 23:26 (six years ago) link

deej's profile article on him is v good

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/09/chance-the-rapper-interview-complex-cover-story

The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 03:26 (six years ago) link

http://cdnl.complex.com/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2013/09/content/1379030127_complexchancetherappercover.jpg

i'm glad complex is finally putting "fast forward" on the cover instead of "pause"

Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 04:04 (six years ago) link

Gonna see this dude tomorrow night.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 04:11 (six years ago) link

I like this and I'm glad it exists but there's something about his voice, or one of the voices he using, that I find really unpleasant to listen to.

I barely even noticed the Childish Gambino verse on first listen, the Ab-Soul verse is the really egregious one here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 09:57 (six years ago) link

I feel like a big part of rap fandom, especially these days, is kinda figuring out what unique or strange voices/rapping styles you actually want to get used to and not be annoyed or put off by. Like it took me a while to come around to Kendrick's voice, still slowly getting used to Chance's.

Ugh that Ab Soul verse though.

some dude, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 11:41 (six years ago) link

yeah absorbing this release in small chunks has been the surest way for me to submit.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 11:53 (six years ago) link

tmi

some dude, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:28 (six years ago) link

let me put my mouth where you absorb small chunks, boo

Vinetalic - "My Friend Terio" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:37 (six years ago) link

This information brought to you by a state of Florida computer.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:31 (six years ago) link

Yeah, his voice does grate a bit. I have to admit...

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:41 (six years ago) link

It did for me when I'd only heard "Juice" and that's prob why it took me a couple months to check it out until I saw so many people I trust talk about how good it was. But as soon as I put it on it was immediately taken with it. Total Albums that you know are going to be brilliant within the opening 20 seconds of the first track status.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:26 (six years ago) link

also agree with matt but i think ultimately i could probably power through the sound of his voice if i felt more compelled by what he was saying with it. just don't really feel like i need early yeezy told to me again by wyclef on ludes

r|t|c, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:35 (six years ago) link

https://t.co/VPP9YZFO0k

― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, July 29, 2019 7:39 AM (thirteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

great review whiney

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:48 (three months ago) link

it's true it is great

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:56 (three months ago) link

there's def some stuff on here that doesn't really work -- the song that sounds like vampire weekend for instance -- but in the context of the scale and ambition of the album (the thread of musical omnivorousness as whiney points out) i don't really mind them so much

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 July 2019 04:05 (three months ago) link

Thanks guys!

The omniverousness works for me in a way that it doesn’t with, say, Cudi because there’s still this Chance way of rapping that basically stays the same from track-to-track. It’s not like “this is my rock song” (yells) it’s mostly like “what if I was Chance over a rock song”

Anyway, the title track has been in and out of my head all day...

Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 04:24 (three months ago) link

Not sure there’s anything as bad here as childish gambino or action Bronson guest verses

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 05:42 (three months ago) link

The album this most resembles is “surf” imo

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 06:12 (three months ago) link

Surf had Sunday Candy, there's nothing here even 0,01% as good as Sunday Candy.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 16:33 (three months ago) link

I disagree but I always found Sunday candy a musically grating —way closer to the “happy ass” meme & jokes about him sounding like a youth minister than anything here. It presaged coloring book way more than the rest of surf presaged this. “Sunday candy”’s saving grace for me was his writing on it rather than anything musical tbh

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:30 (three months ago) link

Anyway the surf comparison is more about the world building & patchwork unpredictability, the way the songs seem to spill out from the central concept rather than following some linear narrative

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:31 (three months ago) link

Ran through this doing stuff around the house....seems okay? I'm a mild Chance fan, and there were definitely some moments that felt a little too canned or whatever (Ben Gibbard's voice just naturally grates on me)...but overall it didn't seem out of character for Chance. The online reaction is weird I was expecting a real drastic change in tone or direction.

Also, he's a really good rapper, both technically and flow-wise, I like his flow so he's usually enjoyable to me on that level even if I don't necessarily love the song.

think i'm w/ulysses though i don't see myself going back a lot, but the vitriol is odd to me...

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:39 (three months ago) link

The greatness of Sunday Candy is the way it goes through a thousand different ideas and sounds in four minutes. Also, 'take and eat my body like it's holy' is a terrific line in a gospel-rap song. It's half about the eucharist, half about oral sex. The Pitchfork review is not that good, but the line about how Coloring Book made piety seem like an acid trip was good. Chance's faith seemed so alive, so thrilling, so fleshy and personal and sublime. Now he just sounds like any believer everywhere. This album is so musically backwards looking, and so lyrically staid, it's such a massive disappointment.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:06 (three months ago) link

I've only listened to the song with En Vogue, and all I have to say is that it's beautiful to hear En Vogue in 2019.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:09 (three months ago) link

yeah that was good one!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:12 (three months ago) link

Now he just sounds like any believer everywhere. This album is so musically backwards looking, and so lyrically staid, it's such a massive disappointment.

I feel like we’re listening to two totally different albums. I’m being gaslit by the exact same people who, let’s be honest, overhyped his earlier work

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:22 (three months ago) link

i think the production on this album is really beautiful and spacious and very patiently crafted, and the people who think it's bland are kinda telling on themselves, like they can't deal with chance if he's not overwhelming them with thirty ideas at once. breihan calling it "bright and flat and weightless" smh, shit is dimensional

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:32 (three months ago) link

just kinda love hanging out in this particular backyard

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:34 (three months ago) link

also the shawn mendes track goes

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:35 (three months ago) link

^^ agreed, that's def one of the highlights.

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:41 (three months ago) link

I’m being gaslit by the exact same people who, let’s be honest, overhyped his earlier work

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:22 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't know about gaslighting but this def feels like he went from overrated to underrated

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:26 (three months ago) link

Coloring Book was my favorite album of 2016, but I never really liked Acid Rap either. I guess he is very hit and miss for me, lol.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:08 (three months ago) link

Acid Rap and 10 Day were both better than Coloring book imo. Still haven't listened to this one yet though.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:10 (three months ago) link

this album is great and i love listening to it. “five year plan” is AMAZING

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:22 (three months ago) link

i'm pretty sure "get a bag" is better than "sunday candy"

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:25 (three months ago) link

i feel that way also ... calboy sounds good on it too

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:41 (three months ago) link

I really like this album? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Tim F, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 04:16 (three months ago) link

ok this is really growing on me now, the production's so gorgeous and there are plenty of hooks they're just a different vibe to the sort of bigness of a lot of colouring book so that + the length made it hard to really get into at first

latest favourite is "ballin flossin"

ufo, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 05:11 (three months ago) link

Ballin flossin is a highlight for me too. Also big fish — gucci sounds great on that

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 05:33 (three months ago) link

I do want to apologize to Fred who complained that this album wasn’t corny enough which suggests tho we have v different aesthetic criteria he did listen to this album more than 99% of reviewers — this is def his least corny album at least possibly barring the dark parts of acid rap

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 05:59 (three months ago) link

I haven't read the reviews but I was pleased that Chance has toned things down a bit? I remember enjoying Coloring Book but also finding it exhausting and I didn't return to it after a few run-throughs.

Also the dark parts of Acid Rap are probably my favourite things he's done.

Tim F, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:11 (three months ago) link

most of the complaints i've seen have been "this is waaay too corny why does he love his wife so much lol" and i don't get that at all when colouring book went full on "god is great!" for a few tracks and this one is generally chiller and a little more low-key musically too

ufo, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:16 (three months ago) link

only a few tracks in and his verses are really good but the choruses are mostly deflating

flopson, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:25 (three months ago) link

arent the first two hooks just john legend and ben gibbard

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:49 (three months ago) link

Yes and they’re the reason I had a bad taste in my mouth the first time through

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:26 (three months ago) link

idgi the hook on "all day long" is tight and gibbard really works on "do you remember"

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:30 (three months ago) link

this is a very me thing to post but the gibbard hook is like something green gartside would sing

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:32 (three months ago) link

I’m finally listening to this album now, and... I don’t really understand why so many people are so mad at it? Sure, there are moments that are a bit off, like the white dude screaming on the title track. But for the most part it sounds pretty good.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:08 (three months ago) link

It reminds me of Three feet high and rising in a way that very few modern rap albums do, lol.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:11 (three months ago) link

man, i dunno what you're hearing there! i hear a lotta different approaches but none of them sound particularly good to me. More power to you for finding something you like though!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:31 (three months ago) link

Chance really walked into "wife guy" meme territory, huh

I'm DJing a friend's wedding in a few weeks, what song from this do I play?

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:46 (three months ago) link

Probably several tracks but “get a bag”

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 17:50 (three months ago) link

I was going to listen to this but then I saw the name "CocoRosie"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:28 (three months ago) link

One of the funniest ways in which chance ended up at this point, where some of his best material is treated as the worst shit in the world, is that there’s no singular cause... instead it’s like a laundry list of little things, down to him putting cocorosie on his album, a self own so specific that explaining it to someone off ilx requires linking to fifteen year old articles about long forgotten hipster parties ... it really has been career death by a thousand paper cuts

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 23:44 (three months ago) link

cocorosie only show up for a few seconds too lol

had never thought about comparing gibbard to gartside but their voices do have a similar weird quality to them and i can hear what brad means

ufo, Thursday, 1 August 2019 00:25 (three months ago) link

it also might explain a reason why i don't really connect with either singer

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Thursday, 1 August 2019 00:32 (three months ago) link

Timing-wise, he sure walked headfirst into 'wife guy' meme territory

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 August 2019 14:49 (three months ago) link

Jordan I'd stick to his bigger/older hits for a wedding gig but that's just me

Papa Triste (Thee Macallan 18 Year), Friday, 2 August 2019 16:40 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

he should have rolled into the 'i love my wife, iigh' stuff tbh, sold shirts or whatever

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:30 (two months ago) link

still, a great album

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:30 (two months ago) link

if it has a weak point to me its that he's pulled back somewhat from certain kinds of vulnerable specifics, which i understand on a level of what fame does to a person, but its unfortunate it happened on an album that is so defined by personal relationships ... nonetheless, great songs

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 22 August 2019 08:31 (two months ago) link

the stuff that doesn't really work for me on this is down to "hot shower" (which is fun and goofy i guess but his voice is really grating on it), the part on the title track where francis yells a bunch, and "5 year plan" (which isn't really bad just relatively dull and saccharine?)

in addition to all the wife complaints i keep seeing people complain about the production being bland and lifeless which is even more baffling, i really don't know what people are listening to.

ufo, Thursday, 22 August 2019 10:35 (two months ago) link


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