A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread

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three weeks pass...

AVClub interview with dude from Baroness:

Eagles, “Take It To The Limit” (1975)

JB: I became an Eagles fan this year, which is the craziest thing. I hated the Eagles so badly that we would do tours, and I would talk so much smack and be so enraged by any and all Eagles-related speech. It’s always struck me as odd that there’s become an assumption, or I think an American assumption, that musicians listen to their genre and don’t really go too far outside, or if they do it’s very specific like, “I play grindcore, but I listen to powerviolence.” But I listen to everything, and I’ve definitely got lots of love for dad rock. There’s no doubt about it. The Eagles thing was this year, though. In fact, it was like a month before we went into the studio.

The A.V. Club: What was it that brought you over to the dad rock dark side with the Eagles, specifically?

JB: You know what it was? It was that documentary that just proves categorically that they’re sociopaths. It was a game maker. They’re open about it. Now it’s not an issue for me anymore. I was like, how can anybody like this stuff? These guys are complete lunatics, and they’re just wrong. Oh no, no, no. That’s part of it, so I get it. Now I like it.

AVC: So what’s the Eagles song for you now that you’ve been converted?

JB: I’m going to pick a weird one, but I think “Take It To The Limit” is incredible. You gotta understand the background. I hated the Eagles. We all know the songs. We all know the words. We all think the guitar solo in “Hotel California” is cool, but the rest of the song maybe not so much, or that’s how I felt for a long time. But then I watch that documentary, and I’d been complaining for such a long time about how it seems to me that in pop music—and by pop music I mean anything that’s big enough that millions of people have heard of it, but there’s become this dearth of personality. I’m sure there’s a bazillion reasons that that’s happened, but it’s just too hard to pull off anymore. Even if you’re Kanye West, and you’ve got personality for miles, eventually the press and your fans are going to demonize you for it—way back when it was pre-iPod, pre-internet, pre-cellphone, it was just guys doing crazy things behind closed doors, and you’d hear about it, but it was just rumors and that’s all you heard.

But with the documentary, I could just hear in Don Henley’s voice and in the sultry stylings of Glenn Frey, I could hear that these guys are total narcissists. You can hear it, man. There’s one thing when you emanate self-confidence. There’s another thing when you self-idolize, and you can hear that. I could always hear it, and I heard it as a bad thing like “Hey, this doesn’t represent me and my kind.” We were getting ready to record Purple months ago, and Netflix had the documentary, and we all just decided to watch it.

Once I realized that those guys were as openly self-involved as they sounded, it was like the veil was drawn back and all of a sudden I gained a kind of perverse respect for them. (Laughs.) I mean, it’s perverse. I’m not going to try to rationalize it and encourage it, but their openness about that level of character, it made me kind of dig them. Furthermore, I mean, watching them perform is kind of staggering. I think it’s when they’re in Hollywood, and there’s a whole section of the documentary just on “Take It To The Limit” where you realize that Randy Meisner is basically living in this self-inflicted hell that is the ending minute-and-a-half of the song where he really does in fact take it to the limit. It’s like The Eagles doing their version of the ending to “Overkill” by Motörhead. He’s hitting those notes, and of course it’s beautiful, and it’s amazing, and those songs are really great and especially that one in particular.

I like it. It’s barely rock at all, but I did gain an appreciation for it, and it kind of became a thing. What was most interesting to me was that he has to sing these notes at the end of the song because they’re iconic notes. Even the year it came out they were iconic notes, and they’re high and hard to hit even for him with the highest voice in the band. To see him suffering at that level and really, truly trying to perform that song night after night, I got sympathetic. I liked the song enough as it was, but now there was a new layer to it. I’ve kind of been obsessed with it since then. When I go to a party and put that on my playlist, it doesn’t gain me a lot of popularity, but it’s a really good song. I’m being honest; they’re really good songwriters. I wish the style was a little harder, but maybe then it wouldn’t have worked as well. Who knows.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

"dad rock"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

don is about to be interviewed by Howard stern…I am quivering with excitement…surely HS will have agreed to not bring up the two teenagers ODing incident, among many many other provisos…

veronica moser, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

Recently started reading Warren Zanes' new biography of Tom Petty. Had no idea he went to high school in Gainesville w/both Bernie Leadon and Don Felder.

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link

you would have known that if you had read all 5274 posts on this thread.

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

Hey, take it easy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

xp Well, yeah

Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

The Baroness guy interview gives context for the "dad rock" wammy. Basically it was a piece about him later in life coming to grips with/coming to love a lot of the light rock he derided as a teen. Actually, I thought there was a lot of good/interesting/entertaining/perceptive stuff in here:

http://www.avclub.com/article/john-baizley-discusses-simple-beauty-dad-rock-and--229328

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link

dang that documentary did wonders for their image

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Once I realized that those guys were as openly self-involved as they sounded

not to really pick on the guy, but it was always obvious these people were huge narcissists. the doc didn't exactly make that revelation. trying to figure out why it's "cool" now. people posit that it is bc they are now unapologetic about it, as if in the past they were pretending to be kind of humble or something.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

"the sultry stylings of Glenn Frey"

Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link

"the glistening genital warts on Don Henley"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link

Well, I think the doc did open a lot of eyes to a band many/most had only heard. There were a handful of songs I didn't even know were Eagles songs until I saw the doc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link

Eagles = Dad Rock ... We're getting close to, if not past, the point where bands from the 70s are "dad rock".

Foo Fighters, Wilco, fathers taking their sons to see Straight Outta Compton... that's the era of Dad Rock we're now in.

pplains, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link

yeah i had a deep and abiding hatred, had read multiple interviews where don henley gloated over the eagles having been more successful than the new york dolls so fuck the critics where are the new york dolls now huh, i knew these fuckers, and the doc was still revelatory. the first half of it is pretty great, i didn't finish the second half, just perfunctory rehab and reunion stuff. man between that doc's growing cult, their profile (and classic rock's profile in general) shrinking enough that they don't suffer from present overexposure, and stuff like blue jean committee i do wonder if somehow the eagles could be reclaimed. may god have mercy on our souls.

balls, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link

it's working out the way Henley planned: where are Foghat and Zep on AOR radio now motherfuckers!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link

great interview with DH on howard stern today

flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

the era of Dad Rock we're now in.

i think at this point basically all rock is dad rock.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/QYifvUP.gif

pplains, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

I mean, Well yeah.

pplains, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link

"Get Over It" was blasting out of an apartment window in town a couple days ago.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 09:40 (eight years ago) link

BITCHIN A FIT

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 11:44 (eight years ago) link

I have the first six Eagles albums on my iPod and tried shuffling them yesterday and was struck anew by the Grand Canyon-sized gulf in quality between anything they released as a single and anything they didn't. I mean, there's literally not one track on their albums where you can say, "Why wasn't this a single? It would have been a huge hit!" Everything that was a hit deserved to be a hit, but everything else was like having your face shoved into a mountain of rotting garbage.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

Get over it!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link

Our knowledge was dearly won, Phil.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link

Oh really? Didn't know that "Chug All Night" had been released as a single. I'll have to look up its chart position and airplay when I get a moment.

pplains, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

uh

Special Tribute to The Eagles
Miranda Lambert – “Desperado”

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 December 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link

How Can I Forget?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9VRLBAo2E

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 January 2016 05:00 (eight years ago) link

Also, In The Wild, A FB Status from Huey Lewis that a friend of mine "Liked"

Glenn Frey of The Eagles and I were playing golf at Pebble Beach one time. Scott Ostler, the great sports reporter in San Francisco, said to us, “Well, between you guys, you must have written hundreds of songs,” thinking we had a bunch of songs we never released.
Glenn, who has had a lot of hit songs, said, “No, I have used everything I ever wrote.”
Writing a great song is not easy. If you write 10 good songs in your life, you are a hall of famer. - Huey

Well, yeah.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 January 2016 05:03 (eight years ago) link

HUEY: Well, between me, Glenn, and Ray Parker Jr., amirite?

GLENN: Bet I could find a place to park her!

DON: Well, yeah.

pplains, Saturday, 2 January 2016 08:25 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

It's the nature of the business...

http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/18/glenn-frey-the-eagles-dead/

pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link

WHAT

THE

FUCK!?!?

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link

I was this close last week to saying something like "Bowie's dead, but hey, all members of the Eagles - past and present - are still alive."

pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:13 (eight years ago) link

He died of a broken heart.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link

DAVID: As an artist, I wanted to turn my death not into a celebration of my life and career, but into a celebration of the lives of everyone. We are all lost souls floating in a tin can, and yet, it's by joining together that we make this mysterious journey into something with meaning.

GLENN: I know I've joined together with a few lost souls in my day, if you get my drift.

DAVID: I'm sorry, what was your name again?

pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

Now I know how Vaughan Meader felt in late '63...

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

awesome xp

Van Der Beek's masterpiece (rip van wanko), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

Chug all night, Glenn.

col, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

haha, griss.

pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link

Henley still has TBS, who's the Shemp of the Eagles anyway.

pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link

irl lol @ Griss

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

Timothy 'Shemp' Schmidt

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link

so this means Azoff will call MISTER Felder on Wednesday and ask him to rejoin the band, right?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

"come on, do it for glenn. he hated your guts."

tylerw, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

too soon to make intestinal jokes?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

loll grisso

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

lol

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link

Warm smell of colitis?

29 facepalms, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link

so this means Azoff will call MISTER Felder on Wednesday and ask him to rejoin the band, right?

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 18, 2016 4:38 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

JD Souther, your moment is NOW.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link


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