INXS "Kick" vs. George Michael "Faith

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What's the best blue-eyed soul pop album released in October 1987?

Poll Results

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Kick 41
Faith 35


mizzell, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

each has been polled and Kick got a lot more votes
INXS Poll: The best track on Kick
Cuz You Gotta Have Faith: The George Michael "Faith" Poll

mizzell, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Faith has some amazing songs, but they're swimming in a pool of dreck. Kick also has amazing songs setting atop some perfectly fine and wholly acceptable songs.

Kick.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Faith has some amazing songs, but they're swimming in a pool of dreck

bullllshiiiiiiiiiiit

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i often think about this era because it was the last time that suave white men were welcome on the pop charts in droves before, well, 2013

some dude, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Kick by a large margin.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Kick and not just because it was the first cassette I ever bought with my own money.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I owned both of these as a kid, but definitely remember listening to Kick more. Time to relisten to both, though.

The Butthurt Locker (cryptosicko), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I owned Kick. I never owned Faith. My favorite song across both is "Father Figure". I wouldn't have linked these albums because INXS always scanned as pop-rock to me and George Michael scanned as pop-R&B but I can see why they'd be compared.

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Based on singles only--I have Faith, but only remember the singles--much, much prefer Faith. Used to find INXS very annoying. Ditto "Father Figure" as my favorite.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

re kick
Atlantic Records was not happy with the result, as manager Chris Murphy remembers: They hated it, absolutely hated it. They said there was no way they could get this music on rock radio. They said it was suited for black radio, but they didn't want to promote it that way. The president of the label told me that he'd give us $1 million to go back to Australia and make another album.

mizzell, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Of course, the best blue-eyed soul from 1987 was "Never Gonna Give You Up," but enough about my bilious private life.

clemenza, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Faith, and it's not even close. Vastly prefer the singles on Listen Like Thieves and x.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:08 (five years ago) Permalink

"What You Need" and "Falling Down The Mountain" were good but I remember hating the rest of Listen Like Thieves

"Need You Tonight" -> "Devil Inside" -> "New Sensation" -> "Never Tear Us Apart" -> "Mystify" = a fucking great run of singles

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Loved "Shine Like It Does," the title track, "Biting Bullets," "This Time." Good album.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah hating the rest of Listen Like Thieves is weird if you like inxs at all.

father figure is the best song on either recd but kick is stronger top-to-bottom so kick.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

the Jam-Lewis remix of "Monkey" kills both albums dead though.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (five years ago) Permalink

The six singles from Faith are untouchable.

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

George without Andrew isn't interesting.

I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Friday, 9 August 2013 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I gotta go with Faith as the lesser of two evils... that INXS album was such a letdown compared to their previous LPs.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 9 August 2013 01:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Faith by a stubbly denim-clad mile. barely a bad track.

piscesx, Friday, 9 August 2013 02:05 (five years ago) Permalink

love inxs and love kick but this is easily faith

balls, Friday, 9 August 2013 02:12 (five years ago) Permalink

honestly, Kick made me like INXS after being disappointed by Listen Like Thieves; before that album, I was only into their singles (and really I don't dig most of their pre-Kick album tracks)

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Friday, 9 August 2013 02:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Kick

do do do... dadadada dadada do!

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Friday, 9 August 2013 02:54 (five years ago) Permalink

really I don't dig most of their pre-Kick album tracks

The Swing is where most of INXS's deep cut treasures are buried, imo.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 9 August 2013 05:15 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 9 August 2013 05:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Interesting poll this - think I'll vote for Faith, as I could find something interesting aboit all of the tracks - whereas I faintly remember more filler on Kick. Also, "Father Figure"

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 9 August 2013 09:23 (five years ago) Permalink

can i vote for Kick even if i haven't heard all of Faith?

Bee OK, Saturday, 10 August 2013 04:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 >>>>> Kick > Faith

only a couple of rizlas between those last 2 tho

phased squirtle tarps (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 10 August 2013 10:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Faith by a mileeeeeeeeeee

Neanderthal, Saturday, 10 August 2013 10:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Kick was one of the first albums I ever bought (along with Information Society s/t!). I listened to it so much at the time, it's kinda painful to go back to it now. I won't say Faith is less dated, but it holds up far better for me.

chris_coolidge, Saturday, 10 August 2013 22:20 (five years ago) Permalink

FAITH

PaulTMA, Sunday, 11 August 2013 20:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Only one of these has One More Try, so...

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 11 August 2013 21:17 (five years ago) Permalink

KICK

yung humas (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 11 August 2013 21:19 (five years ago) Permalink

re kick
Atlantic Records was not happy with the result, as manager Chris Murphy remembers: They hated it, absolutely hated it. They said there was no way they could get this music on rock radio. They said it was suited for black radio, but they didn't want to promote it that way. The president of the label told me that he'd give us $1 million to go back to Australia and make another album.

i bet if they were white, they could've got that album payed on rock radio anyway. oh, wait.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 12 August 2013 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Only one of these has One More Try, so...

― Master of Treacle, Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is anyone else cracking up at the juxtaposition here

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2013 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

lololol

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 August 2013 13:47 (five years ago) Permalink

btw that was first concert where our moms let us hang out alone

although honestly i can't listen to it either -- too heavy with oooooold memories that i like to keep encased in amber where they belong
sometimes i can listen to "never tear us apart" but that's it
once i heard "mystify" on the radio and it was a bit much

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 12 August 2013 15:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I know what you mean, it's like a mainline right into something that is too too too! I stick to the more fun-lovin, less-intense stuff like "I Send A Message" these days but there is nothing quite as awesome on VERY LOUD speakers as "What You Need" or the like

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

INXS - Classicking or Dudding?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 August 2013 16:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I played new sensation at my wedding and it cleared the dance floor. It was the worst moment of the best day of my life.

ashcans (askance johnson), Monday, 12 August 2013 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

You should've played "Original Sin."

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 August 2013 19:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I actually wanted to play what you need, but my wife insisted that new sensation would go over better. Now we'll never know what would have happened.

ashcans (askance johnson), Monday, 12 August 2013 19:02 (five years ago) Permalink

should have played "Need You Tonight" followed by "I Want Your Sex"

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2013 19:04 (five years ago) Permalink

This is rull tough.

sup (billstevejim), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Devil Inside > Faith
Father Figure > Never Tear Us Apart
Monkey > New Sensation
Need You Tonight + Mediate > I Want Your Sex
One More Try > Mystify

voted Faith

Euler, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

My first concert in middle school I had a choice between U2 ("Joshua Tree" tour), INXS ("Kick" tour) and Peter Gabriel ("So" tour). I went U2, which was good. Grown up me would now probably prefer retroactively the Peter Gabriel tour. But 12 or whatever year old me back then, in retrospect, probably would have had the most fun at INXS.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

INXS is fine I guess

Faith is a towering masterpiece

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I've always thought that "Devil Inside" threatens to break into "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting" in its last minute

(there's a bit of cross-thread pollination)

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

imagine Hutchence mumbling "Saturday, Saturday" over the keyboard and bass bits.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2013 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

not only can i hear it, i now hear just how elton john a lot of their shit was.

da croupier, Thursday, 15 August 2013 02:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Some of us don't know whyyiyiyiyiyiyiyiyiyiyiyi
I was standing
I'm still standing yeah yeah yeah

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 August 2013 02:12 (five years ago) Permalink

wasn't crazy about 'devil inside' at the time (and i was CRAZY about the other singles) and now anytime i hear it all i can think of is beavis and butthead saying 'if you play this song backwards it say "this sucks"'

balls, Thursday, 15 August 2013 03:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I have Calling All Nations stuck in my head once in a while. Was it used in a movie or something?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 15 August 2013 07:40 (five years ago) Permalink

everyone showing scorn to inxs on this thread is dead to me

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 10:20 (five years ago) Permalink

that said, "the loved one" needs to be stuffed into a barrel and dissolved in acid, walter-white style

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 11:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Both are amazing but Kick is kind of the greatest ever.

Airwrecka Bliptrap Blapmantis (ENBB), Thursday, 15 August 2013 13:05 (five years ago) Permalink

How has this thread gotten this long and not had a thorough discussion of "I Want Your Sex"?!?! The fact that this song dropped at exactly puberty o'clock gives it a special little gilded place in my <3

One clear memory involves a retreat related to my dad's job at which there was a small coed preteen cadre, the first I had ever spent any time with. There was one boy named Olin who was a total maniac (he got into trouble every 10 min or so) and I remember being at some restaurant and that song came on the radio. In the middle of the restaurant, Olin jumped up and started doing the cabbage patch to "I Want Your Sex" and no one stopped him. He was going to do what he wanted to do anyway. And I couldn't help it, I was totally staring at him. He was about 20 feet away and then he started getting closer. Then he started staring at me, and it appeared that he was dancing ~at~ me. That had never happened before. He was a pretty good dancer iirc. I wanted to do something, to smile, to move a hand or foot or something, but I was completely paralyzed with fear of what I would do if I moved at all. I will never forget it. He looked at me and held up his fingers during the "one on one" part. I was 12. He may have been 13.

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 August 2013 13:37 (five years ago) Permalink

lock thread

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:21 (five years ago) Permalink

NOT EVERYBODY DOES IT, BUT EVERYBODY SHOULD

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:23 (five years ago) Permalink

it's fun to imagine george michael singing the songs on kick, and michael hutchence singing the songs on faith - i think they'd both ace pretty much everything, but hutchence doing "i want your sex" and michael doing "never tear us apart" is what i keep coming back to

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:24 (five years ago) Permalink

"I Want Your Sex" rivals "Papa Don't Preach" in the pull-the-carpet sweepstakes (i.e. OH IT'S ABOUT SAFE MONOGAMOUS SEX).

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:24 (five years ago) Permalink

That is so true. Fortunately, at the time, I didn't know that.

no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:27 (five years ago) Permalink

"i want your sex" was amazing, it was this giant dose of sex positivity at possibly the apex of AIDS fear, right when i was like 14 years old. i don't quite know how to put this but while it felt naughty and dangerous it also didn't feel cynical or exploitative, it was like a big affirmation that all those weird feelings were OKAY and actually FUN and sex wasn't something to be scared of. it was like this authority outside the school or the family that was giving you its blessing to, like, bone down and feel awesome about it

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:29 (five years ago) Permalink

when I was ~11 I was getting a cavity filled and the dentist let me listen to his walkman and it had Faith in it. It felt really weird to be a kid with a drill in my mouth and I Want Your Sex playing on the headphones.

ashcans (askance johnson), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:40 (five years ago) Permalink

"weird"
hehehe

no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Kick due to its remarkable consistency, though the first side of Faith is just as awesome.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:37 (five years ago) Permalink

have we polled Listen Like Thieves?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I'm right in saying the majority of the instrumentation on Faith was GM himself

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Has anything ever been written about the particular sexual dynamics at play on Faith, with partners constantly defined as "teachers" or "father figures?" Even "I Want Your Sex," with its "I'm not your [father/mother/brother/etc]" implies a similar power relationship.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:51 (five years ago) Permalink

If you add 1986's "A Different Corner," you get a series of songs in which Michael shows a guilt-suffused acceptance of his sexuality.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I'm right in saying the majority of the instrumentation on Faith was GM himself

Yep -- except for bass and gee-tar.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Nice fact about "One More Try":

It was a triple-chart #1, also topping the R&B and Adult Contemporary charts and becoming the last number-one single on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart by a white male artist until Robin Thicke's "Lost Without U" (2007).

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:57 (five years ago) Permalink

How appropriate!

(though, seriously, when I was listening to Faith the other day for the first time in years, I was struck by how much it sounded like the album Timberlake would have made if he'd been 21 in 1987)

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:58 (five years ago) Permalink

These are very evenly matched IMO, with Kick having only a slight edge over Faith.

sup (billstevejim), Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:09 (five years ago) Permalink

how many albums in the 80s were over 60% singles? I know of Thriller and Faith...

Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't Slow Down
Hysteria
Suddenly
Born in the USA
Control

I can think of a few others

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

ahh yes, forgot about "Hysteria". that was impressive too given that it had 12 songs on it.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

She's So Unusual?

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Sunday, 25 August 2013 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Wait.... KICK by INXS is blue-eyed soul pop?

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 August 2013 19:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I actually quite like both albums, but they're -- to my mind -- entirely different beasts. George never rocks. George never tries to rock. It's not his thing. INXS, meanwhile, are quite capable of rocking. Not much on KICK as on other albums, but they rock all the same. George doesn't. Thus, different ends are achieved.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 August 2013 19:10 (five years ago) Permalink

INXS' finest hour, I'd suggest, remains LISTEN LIKE THIEVES.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 25 August 2013 19:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 29 August 2013 00:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I love Faith so much that it honestly boggles my mind that this is even a question.

Dan I., Thursday, 29 August 2013 06:58 (five years ago) Permalink

The opening drums on "Guns in the Sky" sounded about as huge as possible on my tinny little Walkman.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 29 August 2013 08:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 30 August 2013 00:01 (five years ago) Permalink

huh

having listened to both a lot lately, i disagree!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 30 August 2013 00:22 (five years ago) Permalink

wow

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 00:25 (five years ago) Permalink

These results make perfect sense to me. All of Kick rules, whereas the second half of Faith has some drecky filler.

the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Friday, 30 August 2013 00:38 (five years ago) Permalink

how many albums in the 80s were over 60% singles? I know of Thriller and Faith...
Forever Your Girl
Rhythm Nation 1814
Bad
"whitney houston" & "whitney"
huey lewis "sports"
purple rain
invisible touch
bryan adams "reckless"

sup (billstevejim), Friday, 30 August 2013 06:05 (five years ago) Permalink

killer poll, mizzell.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 August 2013 09:37 (five years ago) Permalink

i started it because i really couldn't decide which one i liked better. the discussion pushed me towards Faith, and then Kick won. I didn't vote.

mizzell, Friday, 30 August 2013 13:43 (five years ago) Permalink

hutchence doing "i want your sex" and michael doing "never tear us apart" is what i keep coming back to

OK, after imagining these, I really want them to exist!

Vinnie, Friday, 30 August 2013 14:12 (five years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

the Jam-Lewis remix of "Monkey" kills both albums dead though.

― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 8, 2013 7:40 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dang I hadn't heard this before but it is killer

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 11 June 2018 16:07 (three months ago) Permalink

Jam/Lewis giving it the full "Sign O' The Times" treatment there at the 1:25 mark.

vmajestic, Monday, 11 June 2018 18:16 (three months ago) Permalink

I've said this elsewhere, but in August 1988 I made a mixtape to play on my knock-off Alba 'Walkman' during a week's holiday in Norfolk with my parents, and 'Monkey' was definitely the highlight (vying for second and third place: Michael Jackson's 'Dirty Diana' and Lipsync's 'Funky Town').

2018 has to be better (snoball), Monday, 11 June 2018 18:47 (three months ago) Permalink

(the Jam & Lewis 7" remix of 'Monkey' specifically)

2018 has to be better (snoball), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:13 (three months ago) Permalink

"We make decisions...that's what we do...that's what we do"

These albums are so damn good that making a list of the Top 5 singles betwixt them is bound to lead to serious (and worthy) arguments. Among the singles, I feel "Father Figure", "Need You Tonight/Mediate" and "One More Try" are the most colossal, with "Never Tear Us Apart" barely securing the 4th spot. ("One More Try" and "Never Tear Us Apart" kinda occupied the same cultural space, at least in late-'80s So Cal). "Monkey" - Jam/Lewis or original - is a solid 5th.

"Kick" wins the battle for me because I love 3 of the album cuts even more than the singles - "Wild Life", "Kick", and "Calling All Nations" are just fucking awesome.

Prefecture, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 03:24 (three months ago) Permalink


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