Massive Attack - 'mezzanine'

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i dont have 'blue lines' but remember 'daydreaming' as being excellent due to its inclusion on a GREENPEACE compilation tape in '91. i do have a tape of the mad professor protection remixes which is alright - good in places.

i bought 'mezzanine' and loved 'teardrop' - even the scream team remix is pure belter, but strangly enough i grew tired of the whole album even though i liked it at first - does anyone still listen to it ? - maybe its because teardrop has been used in 80% of bbc programme adverts (casualty, the cops etc ) - maybe it is too one dimensional for me - why do i disdain it ?

(this is a friday question as i is out of the loop for the weekend - funny how i feel i need to justify things - Tom is one of the few authority figures i acknowledge in my life besides my mam + the missus - such power!)

anyway what do ya thing of the 'goth-hop masterwork' ?

, Thursday, 10 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty much with the great Reynolds on this - ploddy bass and pseudo-goth drums drag the whole thing down; way too much filler; way too much reliance upon Andy and Frazer's voices to sell the thing. Damned impressive for the first 4-5 listens, but as with "Heaven Up Here," it just hasn't lasted.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 10 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Brilliant in spots, but overall...not quite as compelling as BLUE LINES or PROTECTION.

alex in nyc, Thursday, 10 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The bright orange color of the CD was very misleading. All ebullience removed - so unfortunate! I was really disappointed with it. Not much else to add since I've listened to it probably 3 times. Anybody?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's just marvellous... utterly sublime, in fact. It does get a little bogged down in parts, but when it touches the heights it's one of the most gorgeous things I've ever heard. 'Black Milk' is worth the price of the CD alone... the combination of Liz Frazer and Massive Attack is almost too perfect for my little ears to bear.

Johnathan, Thursday, 10 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't heard it for a while, but from what I do remember: Starts off OK, turns into a washing machine recording.

DG, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It was good, but it hasn't aged especially well, has it? There's just something about it that sounds almost like a parody to my ears, now. I love Liz Fraser's voice though, and she was a fantastic choice for a vocalist on the record. Not too much into the Cocteau Twins either though...

Melissa W, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Teardrop" had that video of the baby in the womb, which was really annoying because you watched it and thought "wow, that really is what the track sounds like.... and god, isn't that crap?"

I still love the song though, only slightly only slightly less than I used to. The rest of the album I've not listened to since 98 or whenever it was: an interesting-on-paper-or-perhaps-not-even-that stab at marrying trip-hop and post-punk, but somehow already very much an artefact of its (Serious) times.

Tom, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's by far their best album, not one or two good tracks and a load of filler like the others.

The Dirty Vicar, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

when i first heard it i thought it was ok.but then i was brainwashed into liking it a lot due to the fact that a friend of mine insisted on playing it non-stop when we were on holiday.so now i love it .possibly because it reminds me of a lovely summer.Risingson is great.

marie, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you like the album as well?

The Dirty Vicar, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

here's something i'd written some time ago when i "rediscovered" the album. now considered the least of their recorded output, this is an album that, at the time, i believe i wanted to like more than i did. i dug it out this week, and i'll be damned if i don't like it as much as i wanted to upon its initial release.

the press deemed this one their "dark "album, and from the cover photo on in, i can't really disagree with that tag. but they've never really been a cheery bunch, have they? i guess it all comes to the fore on this one. the lyrics and the soundscapes are certainly bleaker than before, and the album itself carries such an atmosphere of impending doom. it was rumored that the band was through after this one; the band even said as much, but later revealed that it was actually just a joke to compliment the music press' description of the album. funny guys, making me fear the breakup of my favorite group like that.

listening to it today, i'm amazed that i didn't pick up on the heavy influence of post-punk-funkers like magazine and public image limited. (actually, it's not so amazing; when the album debuted, i didn't own anything by either of those two groups -- what a fool i was!) the band learned to play instruments and brought in some more musicians: the move is most heard in the live drums and the squawking guitars. unlike previous massive attack albums, this album had no sort of tonal color -- it was totally black and white with a little grey here and there.

actually, i shouldn't say no color. the album features two versions of the song, "exchange": the instrumental version is thrown in the middle of the album; the vocal reprise (courtesy of the honey- voiced horace andy) closes it. the former is perhaps colored by the songs that surround it, removing the ocean-washed flourishes that are so abundantly clear on the latter. could this be another joke by those massive boys? could the "dark" and "gloomy" tone of this album have been all just a joke on us? the balmy "exchange" seems to say yes: its calming tones suggest that everything is alright, so chill out.

actually, this album is more than alright. i'm glad to say that i was wrong -- mezzanine is definitely a welcome addition to the massive attack catalog.

fred solinger, Friday, 11 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree with Tom - [read above] - the song "teardrop" (which had been a draw card for me on first listening) quite literally offended me so much that it turned me off the band. I made the stance that if this is their politics, I don't want to support them with my $30 (Aus) contribution.

That said, I think the band has done some wonderful music, "protection" and "blue lines" the most memorable - and this albumn did them (musically at least) no shame.

Ben, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, I missed the boat on this one. For me, Massive Attack were about celebrating and uniting differences, and for this they've always needed a strong producer (Nellie Hooper, Mad Professer) to pull their ideas together, (or at very least sequence the sessions when they refuse to be in the studio with each other) But the scuzzy dub direction, seems to dilute the rich flavours the individual members, or collaborators, bring. Their previous albums have never been a solid play end-to-end, stand out tracks always provided shelter for experimentation, but Mezzanine lacks such a key-stone and their shadowy style isn't cohesive enough to pull it off. It sounds like Daddy G and Del Naga have had to strong an influence on the production, which as Tom said earlier perhaps-sounded-good-on-paper (he didn't specify the production, though) Naga's vocals work, momentarily, his voice is too blank to carry the record's mood. And I'd pull out an old Cocteu*s album before I played the tepid 'teardrop' track. But Horace Andy's voice shines through the murk.
Apparently most of the material was salvaged from the aborted soundtrack for 'Welcome to Sarajevo', a collaboration between Daddy G and Ben Watts from Everything but the Girl. In light of what they've accomplished before this is disappointing. Personally, I feel they were trying to keep their reputation for innovation alive, hurried the process, recording barely adequate material in the style of their favourite records (the one's they hadn't already used, that is.) It would be my pleasure to enjoy this record, but it never happened. A premature delivery.

K-reg, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...
What the fuck went wrong in this thread.

Sansai, Friday, 1 October 2004 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

the song "teardrop" (which had been a draw card for me on first listening) quite literally offended me so much that it turned me off the band. I made the stance that if this is their politics, I don't want to support them with my $30 (Aus) contribution.

is the assumption then that there is an antiabortion message inherent in the song and the video?

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 1 October 2004 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

this was my 'in the bedroom' soundtrack when I dated a goth back in college.. as a result I dont listen to it much these days.. heh

still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 1 October 2004 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Massive Attack=dire and embarassing.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I like them.

Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Massive Attack=dire and embarassing.

you've got to back that up with something

tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I just can't think of anything more 90s than Massive Attack, or the mature dance album thing they represent. I saw them live about a month ago, so boring, they're like Pink Floyd or something.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

100th Window is admittedly a pretty dull album. 'Blue Lines' and 'Mezzanine' still sound great, though, and 'Protection' has its moments of brilliance (notably the gorgeous 'Better Things'). You can't blame them for sins commited in their name.

Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

live they are boring. have always been. they are not a live band. but is there any dance act good live? i don't know as i only go to rock concerts.

xpost:
100th window is not dull at all. the album which caught best the dark and dense atmosphere in the beginning of last year before bush started his war. it's all about textures.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think they were ever dance music at all, really.

I love love love the first track on 100th Window but then the rest of the album is a bit like a repeated, slightly less convincing re-iteration of that first track.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 2 October 2004 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Massive Attack=dire and embarassing.

If you only count the last album, then yes, I fully agree. But up until Mezzanine: classique. I don't think Mezzanine holds up as well as the previous ones, strangely/maybe because of the punk influence being a bit too overt. Or at least that's what my addled brain makes of it. :-)

jesus nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, 2 October 2004 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Alex - 100th Window seems to be exclusively about textures, which in an approach I personally don't find very interesting. I can admire it, and I occaisionally listen to the odd track off it, but listening to the whole album is just interminable.

Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

By the way, good live dance acts = Reprazent, Basement Jaxx, Freestylers. I'm sure there are more.

Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i am used to minimal/ambient music like discreet music and music for airports. there is much more happening in 100th window. there is a swirl. i listened a lot to it walking at night on the countryside in that winter. haunting and very powerful in that depraved setting. it's all relative. thinking about repetition most of dance music (as tim would define it) is much less varied. the way massive attack use beats seems to me much more interesting than most of that house/techno/electro stuff. where i often feel the beats as physical attacks on my head. 100th window is definitely not an album for the 21st century. not for short time-span attentionists.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 2 October 2004 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, it just lacks dynamism for me. I don't think I'm dismissing it unjustly, I've listened to it through 5 or 6 times.

Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I loved Mezzanine at the time, and I love it still. I bought into the dark dreary mechanical dystopia cliche, and it works. I love the Liz Fraser tracks unabashedly. CLASSIC.

I like 100th Window; I never find the right time to listen to it, however, and as soon as I do, I'm sure it'll be one of my favourites.

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

"...seems to be exclusively about textures, which in an approach I personally don't find very interesting."

Too bad. Your loss, man!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not referring to 100th Window though, just the comment about texture-oriented music.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 October 2004 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't care for 100th Window either. I like Mezzanine a lot - not as much as Blue Lines, which is one of my two or three favourite albums ever, but enough that it made my top 20 from the '90s in that poll.

I've several Massive Attack live bootlegs that I play pretty often. They did a great extended Group Four when Mezzanine was current, very potent.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 2 October 2004 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I find anything since Blue Lines and Protection just really...calculated sounding. Goth hop / that boring dude took over (or was left over) and he's just not enticing on any level. I guess Mezzanine is better than 100th Window, but only just. I really don't understand the myth of Massive Attack. Two good singles, 1.5 good albums...they were just lucky cos they had Tricky before he went mad / bad.

paulhw (paulhw), Saturday, 2 October 2004 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"...seems to be exclusively about textures, which in an approach I personally don't find very interesting."

Too bad. Your loss, man!

-- latebloomer (posercore24...), October 2nd, 2004 8:35 PM.


I realise that texture is an extremely important factor in music, but if an artist concentrates solely on texture at the expense of other elements the music can slip very easily into self-indulgence in my opinion. That's all.

Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Martin, is that the Royal Albert Hall concert that featured the inimitable Liz Fraser?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Sunday, 3 October 2004 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"i often feel the beats as physical attacks on my head"

best alex in mainhattan post ever!

You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 October 2004 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I once took care of a friend's parrot, and it seemed to love this album. It bounced up and down and seemed really happy whenever I put it on. (On the other hand, it hated Stevie Wonder.)

The parrot's dead now, and I haven't played the album in years.

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Sunday, 3 October 2004 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah it is Leee, June '98. I don't much care for Liz Fraser myself.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 3 October 2004 10:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Inspired by this thread I just gave '100W' a spin. Works probably better as mixtape breeder.
And just how awful are those Sinead lyrics?

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Sunday, 3 October 2004 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I love Mezzanine; for me, it's the best Massive Attack record. That said, I didn't like it for about two years after it came out; I wasn't in the mood for it at all.

I love the first two as well. 100th Window is OK, but haven't listened to it much. Mezzanine may be darker, but I don't quite get the goth thing! It surprises me that the general feeling is that it's not up to scratch. I tend to think the first few tracks are the worst (overexposure most likely).

Keith Watson (kmw), Sunday, 3 October 2004 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, I think it's overexposure that killed it. Bjork, too; we'd be so much more excited about her records if we didn't hear about them all the time. If Mezzanine had been kept quiet, it'd be that much more interesting to hear, without too much overbearing cultural context(i.e. 'man, this is sooo 1998!')

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 3 October 2004 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, so you're all British. That's the problem.

Sansai, Monday, 4 October 2004 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Tim OTM re; first track on 100th Window, Wooden OTM re; "Better Things" (Although I think the rest of Protection is good, bar the thing at the end (wtf is the story behind that anyway?).

The first four tracks of Mezzanine are fucking incredible, really atmospheric and powerful and dynamic too, but after that I switch off completely.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Black Milk is the best track on Mezzanine - i like the whole album tho tho tended to skip Group 4 (good as it is).

to describe MA as 'dire and embarassing' makes no sense to me. Ronan's complaint seems to boil down to taking offence to them being labelled as dance music when you can't dance to it. if that's true then i agree it is stupid but you can hardly blame the band for this. one man's 90s is another man's heaven. one man's boring is another man's hypnotic/mesmeric/sublime/dreamnoize...

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link

paulhw refers to this 'calculated' thing as bad. don't see why that should be. i like the meticulous nature of 100th Window in many places, and a few tracks ('Butterfly Caught', 'Special Cases', 'Antistar') are as good as anything on Mezzanine.

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Ronan is rockist about dance music in an inverted way. Is he danceist? If you can't dance to it and it is called 'dance' for whatever etymological reason (IN THIS CASE BECAUSE IT HAS NO GUITARS OR SOMETHING AND MAYBE THEY DO SOME SCRATCHING AND THE BASS IS GOOD YAH WHAT WHAT YAH) then it's automatically no good. I had Blue Lines on the other afternoon and it's a fucking outrageously great record.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link

"like to go to America when I get a VISA caaaard - cos gettin' a VISA card nowadays isn't hard?"

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm still troubled by the whole 90s backlash among a few people lately tho. i don't know if it really is a kneejerk reaction based on trend-chasing or it really is felt that these are actually terrible records conceptually/musically/technically/lyrically etc. we're talking about - which is a view i cannot share, regardless of how unfashionable a lot of acts from the 90s may now seem.

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:15 (fourteen years ago) link

nick otm re: the first 4 - possibly my favourite opening salvo on any album ever - and it's one of my favourite albums for those four tracks *alone*. there's still plenty of good stuff after that as well - the last couple of tracks (prior to the exchange reprise) are maybe a bit too blank and washed-out, so could have finished earlier maybe.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

but does anyone ever listen to that Earthling album now?

blueski, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

hen it came out, the album was massively popular amongst early 20-somethings. Why? Because it was a classic album played in every Gap in America, and you knew it right away, that's why

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

No way. I wasn't in America at the time.

humansuit, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

I lump this album with Garbage's Version 2.0, also released that summer: call it Fisher Price goth. Both sleek, determinedly (even laughably) forbidding, bought by lots of femme boys.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

I lump this album with Garbage's Version 2.0, also released that summer: call it Fisher Price goth. Both sleek, determinedly (even laughably) forbidding, bought by lots of femme boys.

Moley, please stop inflicting your pretentious 30-something posts on this thread.

humansuit, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

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That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

BEATING HORACE ANDY AT A GAME HE WASN'T EVEN BOLD ENOUGH TO PLAY

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm twenty-six and had never even been in a Gap store until a year or so ago, it must have been those cocktail parties I was at in my late teens.

mh, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

alfred is having a wack attack.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

I JUST ATE TRAIL MIX

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

I'm twenty-six and had never even been in a Gap store until a year or so ago

Ditto. I didn't run with a mall-friendly peer group back then.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

what about femme boys?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

The fact that your favorite femme boy likes Mezzanine doesn't constitute the universe of all Mezzanine lovers. Please consult your femme boy Mezzanine Venn Diagram before posting in the future.

humansuit, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

The fact that your favorite femme boy likes Mezzanine doesn't constitute the universe of all Mezzanine lover

I'll remember this when it's time to make slogans on T-shirts.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

I think you'll have to run a grammar check first.

humansuit, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

BIG HOOS is also 21 if I remember from other threads, so yes.

-- humansuit, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 6:05 PM (2 hours ago

21 in 8 days, good memory though!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

And Femme? Are you femme? Would you like to characterize yourself by some other unflattering stereotype on this thread if not?

humansuit, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

I JUST ATE TRAIL MIX

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:03 PM

GET BUCK ALFRED
GET BUCK

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

Would you like to characterize yourself by some other unflattering stereotype on this thread if not?

I'll let you do it. Thanks for the offer.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

PROTECTION

TRACEY THORN YO

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 19 July 2008 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

I'm going to burn it to CD and blast my neighbors!!

*evil grin*

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 19 July 2008 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

i do think this is their best album by far, for exactly the reasons marcello derides it, "ploddy bass and pseudo-goth drums"

akm, Saturday, 19 July 2008 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

Mezzanine is my fave too, and i loved the 1st 2 when they came out but this album is just perfect.

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 19 July 2008 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

1998

am0n, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:43 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

this version of teardrop with martina doing the singing is interesting becasue you can hear all the lyrics i'd never been able to work out the opening lines before:

"love, love is a verb
love is a doing word."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-m_gVcUZ8&feature=player_embedded#!

also the closing lyric seems to be "no [or you're] stumbling in the dark/ stumbling in the dark"

jed_, Saturday, 17 July 2010 19:08 (nine years ago) link

i missed a full stop there after lyrics.

jed_, Saturday, 17 July 2010 19:09 (nine years ago) link

cool find, i never knew what that last line was.

ugh this album is so good. i think my fav is "dissolved girl."

teledyldonix, Sunday, 18 July 2010 22:56 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

man "Teardrop"

This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:02 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

they released one or two of the 'unreleased' ones via the web or exclusive mixes, iirc. so a fair number are out there...

mh, Saturday, 2 November 2013 05:08 (five years ago) link

four years pass...
four months pass...

Ah that's a bummer, US tour dates postponed, reschedule announcement next week for fall.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 18:49 (six months ago) link

Friend saw them in London last week and said it was lifeless and pretty boring. Not sure what excuse they're using for postponing, but I wouldn't be surprised if these don't actually get rescheduled.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:11 (six months ago) link

Huh. Guess we'll see.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 19:29 (six months ago) link

Yeah my friend said it was dull as ditchwater.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 8 March 2019 20:00 (six months ago) link

Bummer. Sounded very exciting on paper

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 8 March 2019 20:34 (six months ago) link

i have not heard good things about this tour otherwise I might be trying to go

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 20:47 (six months ago) link

massive attack have always been a big deception in concert. i saw them a couple of times in the early nineties and it was always dull. somehow their music is not made for live shows. i love the albums though even 100th window.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 9 March 2019 18:02 (six months ago) link

Ticket prices for DC were really high. Made me hesitant

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:13 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

posts on facebook about the current north american tour thus far seem pretty positive?

I'll be heading out tomorrow night!

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:17 (one week ago) link

Yeah, the show here Saturday was, frankly, the best concert by anyone I've seen this year, and I did not expect to type that before seeing it. The posts just upthread, so not the case with what we experienced. My girlfriend's thoughts on it were more deep than I could convey and she's only shared them with a close circle, but I'll echo her in that it was an astoundingly good meditation on audience expectation, transforming the 'band plays classic album' approach, nostalgia in general and much more. Now granted, I've never fully dived into Adam Curtis's work, so what may seem truly striking to me when it came to their visuals may simply be run of the mill for others. But it was crucial to the whole experience, and the sense that it was being regularly updated too was key. Meantime, having never seen them live before either, this may also be their s.o.p., but their aggressively anti-star/showmanship approach worked a treat for me -- all the musicians lurking at the back of the stage, del Naja only coming up front for a few vocal turns, otherwise ceding the space to Horace Andy, Liz Fraser et al. (So wonderful to finally see him live, so great to finally see her again for the first time in 26 years.) No intros, no encores, but also, to expand on an earlier point, no simple playing through of the album at all -- I knew about the Bauhaus cover but none of the others, and it was a fascinating reclamation/reintepretation project with the resequenced album choices. I was properly amazed/amused by them actually playing "10:15 Saturday Night," then doing "Man Next Door" and not simply using the Cure sample but replicating it live at the slower pace. But the gut check time was the Pete Seeger cover and how it was used, staged and presented.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:47 (one week ago) link

Wait, Liz is touring??? Oh brother, I'll be in the corner crying.

Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:40 (one week ago) link

She sure is.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:41 (one week ago) link

It was really good. the venue and the crowd were not. I had to retreat to the balcony to get away from apparently newly-returned burners who were pissing me off almost everywhere I went on the floor.

I liked the performance a whole lot, and I liked the films; but my wife didn't and I know some others who found them overly heavy-handed and obvious at times.

akm, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:22 (one week ago) link

Venue was great, crowd was as well as could be expected in a near-stage general admission area, and the show was requisitely intense. The humorous bits of the visual play were a little less tongue-in-cheek and more blunt, and the harsh bits pretty harsh, but it gelled.

The ending with two displays on either side reminded me of an optometrist doing the “look to the center, can you see the figures to the top and bottom? And now?” Only it wasn’t letters or hands, but war and surveillance

Band and Liz were top notch!

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 04:57 (one week ago) link

why must the nyc show be on a thursday

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 11:15 (one week ago) link

oh shit, that's tonight? oh well.

I saw them on what most have been their previous tour and, like Kraftwerk live (and then some), it was much more impressive than I might have imagined. I want to say when I saw them the guest vocalists (like Fraser) appeared and disappeared as needed.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:00 (one week ago) link

Wait, Liz is touring??? Oh brother, I'll be in the corner crying.

― Johnny Grottan from the Skeks Pistols (Leee)

Saw them do this in London and definitely had moist eyes during Teardrop, appropriately.

chap, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:19 (one week ago) link

so gutted to have missed this during their European tour

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:57 (one week ago) link

Also saw this last Saturday. Group Four was all time live with Liz. Holy shit guys

octobeard, Friday, 13 September 2019 22:26 (one week ago) link


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