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I love Krallice, Corrupted, and Liturgy, all of whom I listened to today. But what more is there that approaches this sound, with dense dissonant guitar climaxes? (Corrupted is a little different from the other two, of course, but I mentioned them because of some of the most climactic moments.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 31 May 2013 04:11 (seven years ago) link

The new Altar of Plagues album, maybe? Teethed Glory and Injury.

Or how about Shining? One One One is probably my favourite metal album of the year so far.

A. Begrand, Friday, 31 May 2013 04:36 (seven years ago) link

Portal have that swarm-of-angry-wasps guitar thing going.

South of Hamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 31 May 2013 05:12 (seven years ago) link

I will second portal for sure

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 31 May 2013 05:55 (seven years ago) link

this thread inspired me to listen to helmet at 7 in the morning.

scott seward, Friday, 31 May 2013 11:09 (seven years ago) link

deathspell omega! fas - ite... being the best album!

OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Friday, 31 May 2013 11:16 (seven years ago) link

also, yay, didn't know shining had a new record out! metal!

OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Friday, 31 May 2013 11:16 (seven years ago) link

I know that Deathspell Omega album really well. I really like it. That's probably in the vein of what I'm looking for, yes. I think it might actually be the album that first got me seriously interested in avant-garde black metal, actually. I don't think I know Portal or Shining at all; will look into those. I remember disliking Altar of Plagues' 2011 album but I'll try the new one. Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 31 May 2013 22:58 (seven years ago) link

i disliked that too, sund4r, but the new one is on some kinda art-wave-industrial flavor, v. listenable.

the latest portal is good.

j., Friday, 31 May 2013 23:10 (seven years ago) link

Wow, you guys are right about Portal's guitars. "Plasm" and "Awryeon" are awesome. I thought I was a black + doom partisan but I'm definitely into this.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:31 (seven years ago) link

OMG "Oblotten"

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 04:41 (seven years ago) link

"Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?"

no, not really. band of susans did. i just always think of helmet when someone mentions branca.

scott seward, Saturday, 1 June 2013 12:20 (seven years ago) link

Not sure if they're really metal, and it's from ages ago, but try Blind Idiot God.

OORT (Matt #2), Saturday, 1 June 2013 12:38 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I know and love Blind Idiot God. I'm looking more for contemporary extreme metal.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 14:59 (seven years ago) link

I take it you're probably familiar with Gorguts' Obscura-album? That's my go-to album when I'm in need of some wicked dissonant guitarstuff. But I haven't heard any Branca so I might be off by few miles...

Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Saturday, 1 June 2013 15:45 (seven years ago) link

just listen to darkspace over and over. forever.

scott seward, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:45 (seven years ago) link

I can't say I listen to Obscura a lot but it is pretty amazing in its way. I think it was Kris who originally recommended it to me as a metal album that actually gets into genuinely atonal territory at times. What it does is a little different from what the albums in this thread do, though. Branca is never really atonal: more like dense textures of microtonality and/or unrelieved dissonance, often with a repetitive or drone-like basis? However, if there are other things that sound like Obscura, I'd be interested in hearing about them too!

I have mp3s of Darkspace III but haven't listened to it in a while. I should pull both of these out.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:54 (seven years ago) link

Epheles - Je Suis Autrefois

Siegbran, Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:57 (seven years ago) link

oh christ yes, Gorguts - Obscura and Darkspace - III are both wonderful, wonderful albums that I've praised on here before

actually considered recommending Darkspace earlier but they're less Branca, more...being sucked from an airlock. forever!

the profane theology of (imago), Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:46 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, Darkspace almost sounds closer to a wash of white noise to me.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:02 (seven years ago) link

servile sect

Soft Opening, Saturday, 1 June 2013 22:06 (seven years ago) link

Yep, Teethed Glory and Injury does seem like what I'm looking for. I'm especially liking "Scald Scar of Water" and "Reflection Pulse Remains".

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 2 June 2013 05:45 (seven years ago) link

jazkamer's "metal music machine"

massaman gai, Sunday, 2 June 2013 06:24 (seven years ago) link

^yesssssssssss

warm leveret (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 2 June 2013 09:56 (seven years ago) link

Although not metal per se, I remember seeing Caspar Brotzmann Massaker perform at CBGB's after the amazing "Koksofen" album came out and it was everything that I (and the editor at the time of Metal Maniacs who I dragged along to the show) could have hoped for and more.

Here's a choice moment from the disc, a mixture of avant garde stylings, distortion, arcane melodrama and evil throaty German spoken word perfectly suited for fans of the dark arts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4r4l2PKfc

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 2 June 2013 11:23 (seven years ago) link

I saw CBM a couple of years after that, when Home was out. They were opening for Helmet. Amazing stuff; I still listen to them all the time.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:05 (seven years ago) link

it all leads back to Helmet.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:13 (seven years ago) link

I'll rep f/ all four Portal recs, but no Aluk Todolo? the krautrock tag usually fits (which tbh isn’t far from Branca), but on a handful on tunes they conjure a wash of guitar murk that should sooth yr drone craving:

Occult Rock I – http://youtu.be/ow1g4xd7gTM
Obedience – http://youtu.be/EtRFod2cVAE
Woodchurch – http://youtu.be/eTLxY0KVzn8
Untitled (side B) – http://youtu.be/EaumUJQX-hA

even on their kraut jams, they push a clockwork dissonance that occasionally circles Lesson No. 1 and The Ascension if not the symphonies (though Occult Rock I is yr clear priority here, and I’d take an album or three of that squall).

Hellhouse, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:53 (seven years ago) link

Love the last Aluk Todolo album. Will be bookmarking this thread.

Drugs A. Money, Monday, 3 June 2013 06:26 (seven years ago) link

sooth yr drone craving

^^^

wtf w/ this renfaire crackhouse prattle

anyway, here are a few more recommendations:

Azonic – Shore: http://youtu.be/wzuaHxi91C0
(a longer, slightly different version of Andy Hawkins’ River Blindness)
Azonic – Beyond the Pale: http://youtu.be/Wue_LUOjiPk
Oren Ambarchi – Raga Ooty (Slight Return): http://youtu.be/8Gi6btVnv1s

idk, in my house Branca p. much functions as corrosive Teutonic ruction that pours smoothly into Skullflower and F/i through cracking hot speakers, but I’m at peace w/ my disgusting savagery, and you may find yrself delighting in the more subtle aspects of the symphonies (in which case the Oren Ambarchi and Azonic may seem left-field, but w/e).

these next two tracks are even further afield, but the prehistoric lizard currently staffing the drone wing of my brain keeps returning to these metal-ish sheets o’ guitar crush, so:

Bowery Electric – Slow Thrills: http://youtu.be/X09G1bDRocs
Flying Saucer Attack – Standing Stone: http://youtu.be/WGfn6fBU-io

(I’m not gonna pretend they’re metal, but at wilting levels they wield a metallic scrape that you may dig.)

Hellhouse, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 01:04 (seven years ago) link

Bosse-de-Nage and Sannhet are kind of heady, dark and dissonant, albeit not as complex as DSO or Krallice.

Bosse-de-Nage - The Arborist
http://youtu.be/lxMryekibBA

Sannhet - Absecon Isle
http://youtu.be/Ds3og9jk0t8

anonanon, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 01:50 (seven years ago) link

That Bosse-de-Nage track isn't exactly what I was asking for but I really like it all the same! Good rocking feel. More stuff like that would be good too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:11 (seven years ago) link

bosse-de-nage is more like hello late 90s post-hardcore

j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:21 (seven years ago) link

Antediluvian has a pretty good Portalesque thing going
http://youtu.be/z8XSESEcX1Q

klyid, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:29 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, the Sannhet track has something of that vibe too (+ Sonic Youth/Live Skull) and I kind of love it. Will definitely look for more.

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EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:30 (seven years ago) link

hey snd444r

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbLWHT7vUU

j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:36 (seven years ago) link

This Sannhet track actually is pretty much exactly what I was looking for: http://youtu.be/gsseHCsmg60

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:36 (seven years ago) link

omg like 26 minutes in i think they switch from guitar to jet engine for a lil bit

then like billy corgan acoustic vibes on some pisces iscariot shit

j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:47 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I thought of the Pumpkins too, as well as Mogwai. I'm still at 21:30 too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 03:58 (seven years ago) link

The bit around 23:15 is pretty cool.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:00 (seven years ago) link

Wow, I see what you mean about the jet engine.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:03 (seven years ago) link

the new Deafheaven record would be a good bet IMO, and looking at the thread I see j. has already recommended it! Try also Cobalt.

Neil S, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 11:46 (seven years ago) link

^i really like this record. apparently i just love black metal that has majestic major key progressions.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:27 (seven years ago) link

Castevet is another band somewhat adjacent to Krallice. Mounds of Ash is a great album:

http://youtu.be/-50jZQYSOuM

anonanon, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 16:36 (seven years ago) link

i love the shit out of that castevet record but i think it's a bit over more to the post-hc side of things. maybe because the songs' structures are much more taut and articulated, much stronger drum role - no five-minute hazes of /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

j., Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:08 (seven years ago) link

Pulling out Deathspell Omega's Fas Ite... more over the last week, I'm reminded of why I haven't played it as much over the long term despite its initial impact. While I'm really into most of the individual sections of all the songs, I'm never really sold on how they are combined into compositions. It's hard for me to see a clear relationship between the whole and its parts most of the time, even when it comes to the proportions of the sections. It's the same thing that frustrates me with ELP and "Paranoid Android" and "Carry On Wayward Son". While I haven't really analysed the last Krallice album formally, everything seems to work as a whole more intuitively. Maybe I should think more about why that is some time.

Really love the Deafhaven album though. How are their older albums?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:38 (seven years ago) link

I gave one listen each to DSO's Paracletum and Drought; maybe those would stick better?

Blut Aus Nord never got mentioned in this thread. I didn't keep up with them after Mort but I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:40 (seven years ago) link

Huh, so Roads to Judah is even more what I was looking for than Sunbather is.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:27 (seven years ago) link

GAME OVER

http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/discontinuities

^^^from this year; wins this thread absolutely and completely and I say that as someone who has heard a fair number of the bands mentioned. And I'm only on the first track!

ghosts of cuddlestein butthurt circlejerk zinged fuckboy (imago), Friday, 21 June 2013 19:22 (seven years ago) link

Wow, that first track!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 22 June 2013 03:04 (seven years ago) link

I read "Austin Weber" as "Anton Webern" for an instant and got excited.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 18 October 2015 17:10 (five years ago) link

Listened to it this morning. It's pretty cool.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 19 October 2015 12:20 (five years ago) link

I love that metal found a use for microtonal guitars that doesn't involve endless shredding.

si monvmentvm reqvires, pvmpkin spice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:24 (five years ago) link

And Genevieve sounds good on first listen, I'll have to give it more time later.

si monvmentvm reqvires, pvmpkin spice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 19 October 2015 18:25 (five years ago) link

gave Akhlys a listen on the living room speakers last night -- been listening to it occasionally all year because sometimes I kind of like it and sometimes I have a weirdly negative "this is bullshit" reaction to it. but I've only, 'til now, been listening on headphones. good headphones, but always headphones.

I strongly recommend giving this album some room space, it's a very good album but better suited to the air than the closeness of the cans. really glad I stuck with it, it's excellent.

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:09 (five years ago) link

ty I have liked what I've heard & will do likewise

twunty fifteen (imago), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 11:43 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Anything from this year I need to hear?

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 03:12 (four years ago) link

Well there's this Ecferus album, not the most outre thing on the thread but it's a bit Krallice-y

https://i-voidhangerrecords.bandcamp.com/album/pangaea

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 25 September 2016 14:09 (four years ago) link

And it's from a few years ago, but a band called Ecferus released one single EP that isn't the most experimental thing in the world but has one of the finest, lushest wall of guitars I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFeo4TR-Z3s&ab_channel=AtmosphericBlackMetalAlbums

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 25 September 2016 14:12 (four years ago) link

Maybe one day I'll be able to post literally anything without making a mistake, the above link is for a band called Enmerkar and since the yt doesn't seem to work for me here's the bandcamp if anyone's interested:

https://enmerkar.bandcamp.com/releases

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 25 September 2016 15:12 (four years ago) link

The man himself placed for the first time on:
POLLERO!: ILM's Top 100 Notated Pieces of Music

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Monday, 26 September 2016 02:09 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

For the Jute Gyte/Ambergris fans...

http://speedritualrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ange-de-la-mort-phnylketonurics

Check out "Vengeful Prophecy."

Anthology of Literature's Finest Penis Descriptions (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 2 February 2017 08:16 (four years ago) link

Oh, that's good stuff. On my list for tomorrow.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:51 (four years ago) link

Sounds more like Portal/Swallowed to me than anything else but yeah, good stuff.

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:07 (four years ago) link

Is the guitarist using a whammy there or do you know if it's something else (customized instrument, tuning, etc)?

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:21 (four years ago) link

You mean for general queasy riff warping? I think so.

Anthology of Literature's Finest Penis Descriptions (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:51 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

can't work out if there's something to this or if it's directionless bollocks

https://vmthanaachth.bandcamp.com/album/inferotemporal

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 2 October 2017 20:24 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

since we don't have a thraed for metal that sounds like SY and/or PiL:

https://witchtrail.bandcamp.com/album/the-sun-has-left-the-hill

gaudio, Sunday, 2 February 2020 17:40 (one year ago) link

Yep, just bought that on first listen. Really nice guitar sound and riffs. My partner called it "surf metal", actually.

With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Sunday, 2 February 2020 20:05 (one year ago) link

Was it nominated in the metal poll?

With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Sunday, 2 February 2020 20:07 (one year ago) link

it was. spoiler: my metal aoty

gaudio, Sunday, 2 February 2020 20:13 (one year ago) link

Alright, I need to hear this now.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Sunday, 2 February 2020 22:17 (one year ago) link

my god, you do!!

opden gnash (imago), Sunday, 2 February 2020 23:12 (one year ago) link

one of those albums where a really good first half yields to an overwhelming second

opden gnash (imago), Sunday, 2 February 2020 23:37 (one year ago) link

Oh man

are you a fan of i.die music (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 February 2020 00:14 (one year ago) link

Oh man

are you a fan of i.die music (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 February 2020 00:14 (one year ago) link

Oh man

are you a fan of i.die music (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 February 2020 00:15 (one year ago) link

Annoyingly there are two bands called Witch Trail, both put out albums this year. Both are very good.

Siegbran, Monday, 3 February 2020 08:34 (one year ago) link

Omen xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 3 February 2020 08:34 (one year ago) link

The GB record is great btw, I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 3 February 2020 08:34 (one year ago) link

Afloat off the Witch Trail (indie-metal variant) album is quite something

opden gnash (imago), Monday, 3 February 2020 09:51 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being trans

it's made by the following individual

POV: 1950s housewife shows you her microtonal riffs pic.twitter.com/Yvre4b10K0

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 4, 2020

ban laggy jazzer (imago), Monday, 6 April 2020 18:11 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Liked that.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2020 00:28 (eleven months ago) link

Haven't seen this thread in a while---my gateway to Jute Gyte and others, thanks.he GB record is great btw,

I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, February 3, 2020 2:34 AM

You mean The Third Ascension? Made my Uproxx ballot too, so great:
https://glennbranca1.bandcamp.com/releases

dow, Monday, 11 May 2020 01:45 (eleven months ago) link

Sorry for messing up my paste of your post!

dow, Monday, 11 May 2020 01:48 (eleven months ago) link

NP, I indeed meant The Third Ascension, glad you're enjoying it Dow!

one month passes...

thanks 2 gaudio for posting that Witch Trail, finally got around to listening to it and it's great, love that twang.

my pleasure, GOTT PUNCH!

knife sharpening tips (gaudio), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:29 (nine months ago) link

have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being trans

it's made by the following individual

Album is pretty nice on first listen. May well buy this. Tracks 3 and 4 sound like they're in 12tet, I think?

The 17edo guitar is interesting. Each division (so each fret) would be about 70.59 cents, I think, meaning P5s would be pretty close to what we're used to, only about 6 cents sharp of 12tet P5s and 4 cents sharp from just P5s. But what happens to thirds seems most interesting: you'd get intervals of about 282.35 cents, 352.94 cents, and 423.53 cents, so either a very flat (18 cents) minor third, almost an exact neutral third (halfway between major and minor), or a very sharp major 3 (by 24 cents, and actually more like 38 compared to a just M3). Ofc, some precision is lost when distorting but distorted microtonal tunings still produce different effects than distorted 12tet. Did Ron Sword make the guitar?

I do wonder about these guitars. With 17edo, I could see how you could play on most of the neck with very precise fingering (and she seems to, although I'm sort of interested to hear what it sounds like past the 17th fret without distortion). With the 24tet guitar, I do wonder what technique you could use to play near the octave or higher, to get your fingers just between the frets. Even Sword seems like he's squeezing when he's halfway there on this instrument: https://youtu.be/RWCwMW48FO4?t=90

Also wonder how tricky it is to ensure the intonation of these things. Probably things to ask the Xenharmonic FB group.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 13 July 2020 03:41 (nine months ago) link

I think I might have actually asked some of this once and got an answer that I don't remember.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 13 July 2020 03:46 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

is there any reason, in this era of digital audio, why metal guitarists aren't recording 100 guitar tracks on everything

It's still a lot of work tbf.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Monday, 24 August 2020 04:10 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

album is going well. hope you like bird sounds in your extreme microtonal metal

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) February 26, 2021

to party with our demons (Sund4r), Friday, 26 February 2021 14:54 (one month ago) link

beaky hails

imago, Friday, 26 February 2021 15:16 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

New VOtS single: https://votsband.bandcamp.com/track/nowherer-single-2

On the noisy, brutal side. I think I actually like the primitive drumming.

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 March 2021 18:42 (two weeks ago) link

fun chords!

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 March 2021 18:46 (two weeks ago) link

New Jute Gyte album: https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/helian

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 02:48 (one week ago) link

Omg he's practically been releasing an album a month. I blinked and missed it.

Just Another Onionhead (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 April 2021 02:49 (one week ago) link

These are mostly rereleases, although that one^ has some self-remix work so I'll def check it out. His next album proper should be along at some point soon.

Meanwhile, this thread's queen to Kalmbach's king appears to be reaching...new heights

preorders are up for my upcoming microtonal metal album, Nowherer!! and here is a playthrough of a segment from the 21 minute closing track, Oscines!! pic.twitter.com/ht3CS1fMYW

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 2, 2021

imago, Sunday, 4 April 2021 04:42 (one week ago) link


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