I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)

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Blue Monday placing #9 feels like an overcorrection to me -- even as I had it at 10.

Vanishing Point
Age of Consent
True Faith
Run
Chosen Time
In a Lonely Place
Shellshock
Perfect Kiss
All the Way
Blue Monday
Bizarre Love Triangle
Ceremony
Face Up
Weirdo
Love Less
1963
Temptation
Thieves Like Us
All Day Long
Everything's Gone Green
Leave Me Alone
Doubts Even Here
Regret
Dream Attack
Waiting for the Siren's Call
Love Vigilantes
Procession

Technique
Power, Corruption and Lies
Movement
Brotherhood
Low Life

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

xpost Or 11 people who didn't bother voting for it because they knew it would end high no matter what and wanted to lend their support to some other song.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link

it's just weird to me, people saying it's "overplayed," because I NEVER hear that song and it's so obviously great

ttyih boi (crüt), Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

I hear the '88 remix a bunch on one of the local commercial radio stations.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 June 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

they don't play any version on the radio here, though I guess I should be glad because I don't like the '88 version

ttyih boi (crüt), Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link

In the early-mid 2000s Blue Monday felt like the token 'pop' moment on a million electro house mixes.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link

Except maybe for my #1 (and absence of "Blue Monday"), this is like all my ballots where I'm just a casual fan--what a K-Tel best-of would look like:

1. “All Day Long” (50)
2. “Dreams Never End” (46)
3. “Ceremony” (43)
4. “Temptation” (40)
5. “Love Vigilantes” (38)
6. “Bizarre Love Triangle” (36)
7. “Fine Time” (35)
8. “The Perfect Kiss” (34)
9. “Your Silent Face” (33)
10. “Everything’s Gone Green” (32)

clemenza, Sunday, 2 June 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link

"Blue Monday" is ok, but I like a bunch of other NO songs more. It was never a pop event in my world the way say "True Faith" was, and I like NO best when they mix the robotic and human more amply.

Euler, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

First things first: fantastic job on the poll, Bee and millsner! Thank you!

Here's my ballot:

Top Albums:
1. Technique
2. Brotherhood
3. Power, Corruption and Lies
4. Low-Life
5. Get Ready

Top Songs:
1. Dream Attack
2. Vanishing Point
3. Ceremony
4. Age of Consent
5. Procession
6. All Day Long
7. Love Vigilantes
8. Here to Stay
9. Dreams Never End
10. True Faith
11. Mr. Disco
12. Temptation
13. Bizarre Love Triangle
14. Round and Round
15. Blue Monday
16. Leave Me Alone
17. Ecstacy
18. Elegia
19. Your Silent Face
20. Guilty Partner
21. Everything's Gone Green
22. Sunrise
23. 1963
24. Someone Like You
25. Weirdo
26. The Perfect Kiss
27. 60 Miles an Hour
28. All the Way
29. In A Lonely Place
30. Way of Life
31. Waiting for the Sirens' Call
32. As it is When it Was
33. Krafty
34. Regret
35. Love Less
36. Doubts Even Here
37. Crystal
38. Best and Marsh
39. The Village
40. Primitive Notion

RE: 'Blue Monday'
Yeah, I didn't place it that high for two reasons: 1) I figured it was a lock for the top ten, if not the top five and 2) I like it, yet it's never been my favorite anything. It's certainly a landmark moment in pop music, and a darn catchy tune, but they also have such a strong catalogue. It's really remarkable when you think about the high quality of their output up until the early 90's.

Overall, I am disappointed in the top five, but I can't honestly say that it's not totally representative of some of their best work — which just speaks volumes about how great they were (and still are, to a certain degree).

Austin, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

Saw bunches of NO 12" at the record store yesterday -- the new arrivals bin looked like someone ~ 4 yrs older than me unloaded her entire youth into the bin. It was kinda sad!

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

My ballot. I've always thought of them as one of the best singles bands ever, so I didn't rank the albums, but this poll encouraged me to seek out good album tracks ("Your Smiling Face" was the big find for me, plus I've always loved "Close Range").

1 Temptation
2 1963
3 Love Vigilantes
4 Bizarre Love Triangle
5 True Faith
6 Vanishing Point
7 Close Range
8 Run
9 Blue Monday
10 Waiting For The Siren's Call
11 Regret
12 Age of Consent
13 Your Silent Face
14 Touched By The Hand of God
15 All Day Long
16 Ruined In A Day
17 Crystal
18 Fine Time
19 Round and Round
20 The Perfect Kiss
21 Shellshock
22 All The Way
23 Dreams Never End
24 Primitive Notion
25 Dream Attack
26 Paradise
27 Everything's Gone Green
28 Confusion
29 Sunrise
30 World In Motion
31 60 Miles An Hour
32 Run Wild
33 Let's Go (Nothing For Me)
34 State of the Nation
35 Leave Me Alone
36 Way of Life
37 The Village
38 World
39 Subculture
40 Every Little Counts

chris_coolidge, Sunday, 2 June 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

Great poll, good work Bee & Milsner!

Here's my ballot, mainly compiled using my iTunes playcounts,

1 Your Silent Face
2 Temptation
3 The Perfect Kiss
4 Ceremony
5 Thieves Like Us
6 Blue Monday
7 1963
8 Everything's Gone Green
9 Bizarre Love Triangle
10 Confusion
11 Subculture
12 In A Lonely Place
13 Fine Time
14 Procession
15 State Of The Nation
16 Shellshock
17 True Faith
18 Lonesome Tonight
19 5-8-6
20 Age Of Consent
21 Dreams Never End
22 Murder
23 Hurt
24 Elegia
25 Round & Round
26 The Village
27 Touched By The Hand Of God
28 Cries And Whispers
29 Leave Me Alone
30 Love Vigilantes
31 Ultraviolence
32 Doubts Even Here
33 ICB
34 The Beach
35 Run
36 We All Stand
37 Mr Disco
38 Truth
39 Guilty Partner
40 Vanishing Point

nate woolls, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

I didn't vote for Blue Monday even though if I would have actually voted what I know to be the best new Order tracks, it would have been top 5.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

1. Temptation
2. Bizarre Love Triangle
3. Ceremony
4. Regret
5. Subculture
6. The Perfect Kiss
7. Fine Time
8. Love Vigilantes
9. Age of Consent
10. True Faith
11. Thieves Like Us
12. Face Up
13. Lonesome tonight
14. Blue Monday
15. Round and Round
16. All the way
17. Love less
18. Run
19. Your Silent Face
20. 1963
21. Confusion
22. Every Little Counts
23. Mr Disco
24. Brutal
25. Vanishing Point
26. Dreams Never End
27. ICB
28. The Village
29. All Day Long
30. Crystal
31. Waiting for the Siren's Call
32. As it is when it was
33. Primitive Notion
34. Touched by the Hand of God
35. MTO
36. 586
37. Procession
38. In a lonely place
39. Here to stay
40. World in motion

Ordering after about 20 a bit arbitrary.

FORGOT:
Leave Me Alone. Should be top 20.

woof, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link

Oh, and thank you so much Bee and Millsner, Great roll-out, great images.

woof, Sunday, 2 June 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

guess what I'm gonna do to you! whoo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWuwPIgydg

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 June 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

@Bee OK: Are there any songs from 1981-1993 that didn't get a vote?

this will be interesting to find out, have some things to do but will get back to you on this one.

Bee OK, Sunday, 2 June 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link

the vote count you posted for the songs was complete right? we should be able to figure out the answer to that from those figures.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

I always under-rate Temptation, probably because I have the original 7" and the snare is mixed too damn loud. Later mixes reveal the true glory of the tune. Anyway, I guess my ballot is pretty uncontroversial, although I would have liked to see Chosen Time and Ecstasy place higher than they did.

1. Ceremony
2. Chosen Time
3. True Faith
4. Blue Monday
5. Shellshock
6. Age of Consent
7. Leave Me Alone
8. Procession
9. Ecstasy
10. Regret
11. Doubts Even Here
12. World (Price of Love)
13. Bizarre Love Triangle
14. Confusion
15. The Perfect Kiss
16. Thieves Like Us
17. Dream Attack
18. Your Silent Face
19. Dreams Never End
20. Temptation
21. Everything’s Gone Green
22. Vanishing Point
23. 1963
24. The Village
25. Fine Time
26. We All Stand
27. 586
28. Sunrise
29. Someone Like You
30. Young Offender
31. Ultraviolence
32. Avalanche
33. Waiting for the Siren’s Call
34. 60 Miles an Hour
35. Crystal
36. Round and Round
37. Run 2
38. Liar
39. Subculture
40. All Day Long

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

in fact, Ecstasy didn't make the 50 at all, did it?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link

I had Chosen Time at number 1 and I forgot to vote for Hurt :(

chosen time
everything gone green
perfect kiss
vanishing point
temptation
confusion
ceremony
here to stay
mr disco
subculture
senses
face up
regret
true faith
touched by the hand of god
run
all the way
love less
guilty partner
shellshock
this time of night
sunrise
denial
the him
dreams never end
ultraviolence
BLT
Denial
Ecstacy
the village
leave me alone
586
Paradise
fine time
ruined in a day
crystal
lonesome tonight
way of life
as it is when it was
we all stand

Albums

Technique
Substance
Movement
Low Life
PCL

Videos

Perfect Kiss
Confusion
Touched by the hand of god

Culture Cub (I am using your worlds), Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

Thanks Bee and Millsner. My ballot:

1. Dream Attack (10)
2. True Faith (3)
3. Bizarre Love Triangle (6)
4. Ceremony (2)
5. 1963 (14)
6. Blue Monday (9)
7. Your Silent Face (8)
8. All Day Long (29)
9. Temptation (1)
10. Elegia (37)
11. Round & Round (19)
12. Sub-Culture (24)
13. Age of Consent (7)
14. Run (23)
15. All the Way (18)
16. Regret (5)
17. Don’t Do It
18. Lonesome Tonight (25)
19. Vanishing Point (11)
20. Love Vigilantes (15)
21. Waiting for the Sirens’ Call (47)
22. Touched by the Hand of God (38)
23. Paradise
24. Mr Disco (32)
25. Doubts Even Here (44)
26. Ruined in a Day (K-Klass Remix) (45)
27. The Perfect Kiss (4)
28. Way of Life
29. Fine Time (21)
30. Turn
31. Every Little Counts

32. 5-8-6 (31)
33. Dreams Never End (17)
34. Sunrise (42)
35. In a Lonely Place (34)
36. Everything’s Gone Green (13)
37. World in Motion
38. Krafty
39. Slow Jam
40. Brutal

More love needed for Don't Do It

Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 June 2013 08:00 (ten years ago) link

My thanks too guys, great stuff. Here's my ballot.

Tracks (unranked)
Fine Time
Weirdo
Love Vigilantes
Bizarre Love Triangle
True Faith
1963
Blue Monday
Your Silent Face
Dream Attack
Everything's Gone Green
Temptation
Blue Monday
Regret
All the Way
Mr Disco
Round and Round
In a Lonely Place
Confusion
Age of Consent
Touched by the Hand of God
Procession
Ultraviolence
Run 2
Ruined in a Day
Turn My Way
Every Little Counts
The Perfect Kiss
Subculture
Regret (Sabres Slow 'n' Low mix)
Vanishing Point
Dreams Never End
ICB
The Village
World
World in Motion
Let's Go
Theme from Best & Marsh
Such a Good Thing
Video 586
1963 (Arthur Baker remix)

Albums
Technique
Power, Corruption & Lies
Substance
Movement
Lowlife

Videos
Touched by the Hand of God
True Faith
Blue Monday
World in Motion
Ruined in a Day

Neil S, Monday, 3 June 2013 08:34 (ten years ago) link

SONGS (ranked)

The Him
Dream Attack
True Faith
1963
Doubts Even Here
Fine Time
Procession
Elegia
Cries and Whispers
Sunrise
Truth
Temptation
In A Lonely Place
Hurt
Denial
Senses

Thieves Like Us
Confusion
Guilty Partner
Crystal
This Time of Night
Here To Stay
Morning Night and Day
60 MPH
Jetstream

Lonesome Tonight
Guilt Is A Useless Emotion
Vicious Streak
Someone Like You

Regret
Ruined In A Day
Bizarre Love Triangle
Slow Jam
Shellshock
Blue Monday
Mesh
Murder
We All Stand

Love Less
Chosen Time

ALBUMS

Substance
Movement
Technique
Get Ready
Waiting For The Sirens Call
Power, Corruption and Lies
Republic
Brotherhood
Low Life
Lost Sirens

VIDEOS

Touched By The Hand of God
Confusion
Crystal
True Faith
Bizarre Love Triangle

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link

"The Him"!!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 June 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

"The Him" is the most underrated song in the New Order catalog by miles

also I said upthread that no one else was going to agree with my #1, lol

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 3 June 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

My list -- I would have placed Leave Me Alone easily in the top 10 if I had remembered to add it.

1 Temptation
2 Bizarre Love Triangle
3 Age Of Consent
4 Perfect Kiss
5 Procession
6 Ceremony
7 Dreams Never End
8 All The Way
9 The Village
10 Weirdo
11 Every Little Counts
12 Face Up
13 As It Is When It Was
14 Lonesome Tonight
15 Way Of Life
16 Fine Time
17 Chosen Time
18 Paradise
19 In A Lonely Place
20 Love Less
21 Senses
22 Turn The Heater On
23 Thieves Like Us
24 Love Vigilantes
25 Run
26 Dream Attack
27 ICB
28 Confusion
29 1963
30 Everything's Gone Green
31 Denial
32 Mr Disco
33 Mesh
34 Vanishing Point
35 Krafty
36 Murder
37 Run Wild
38 State of The Nation
39 Cries and Whispers
40 Shellshock

righteousmaelstrom, Monday, 3 June 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

I posted a link to my Spotify playlist on Facebook and the only reaction I've gotten so far is "NO BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE????"

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

BLT's there, no? Maybe I chose a source that's not licensed in all territories.

I would have guessed there was more love out there for "The Him". Certainly my favourite Movement track behind "Dreams Never End". (Which I thought was obvious top 10 material, for that matter, so I'm quite clueless.) More colour and movement than other still-sounds-like-Joy-Division dirges like, say, "In a Lonely Place".

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 3 June 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

Talking about my ballot, not the countdown.

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-3640378-1338731156-4254.jpeg

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

My cassette of PCL was a weird one! Black plastic with white print... I think it had Spanish legal on it.

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

Listened to Republic on my ride into work today. I think a lot of the lyrics to World were taken directly from meetings about the demise of Factory.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

Looking at this record label makes me imagine what Technique would be like in Spanish...

http://new-order.eu/diskografie/graphics/techniquearpromolabela.jpg

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

Socio Culpable is a great title.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

That's what I thought! Could easily be a New Order song title in its own right, that! :D

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

lol "dando vueltas"

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

@Bee OK: Are there any songs from 1981-1993 that didn't get a vote?

i'm pretty sure, will go down and post findings.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:42 (ten years ago) link

Movement
Dreams Never End 32
Truth 8
Senses 12
Chosen Time 18-2
ICB 15
The Him 8-1
Doubts Even Here 14
Denial 11

CD2 (B-Sides)
Ceremony 38-5
Temptation 40-9
In a Lonely Place 21
Everything’s Gone Green 31
Procession 28-3
Cries And Whispers 18
Hurt 14
Mesh 13

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:44 (ten years ago) link

Power, Corruption & Lies
Age Of Consent 35
We All Stand 8
The Village 26
5 8 6 (22)
Your Silent Face 35-1
Ultraviolence 14
Ecstasy 10
Leave Me Alone 27

CD (B-Sides)
Blue Monday 33-1
The Beach 3
Confusion 28
Thieves Like Us 28
Lonesome Tonight 25
Murder 10
Thieves Like Us (Instrumental) 1
*Confusion (Instrumental)

*No Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link

Low-Life
Love Vigilantes 34-1
The Perfect Kiss 38-4
This Time of Night 9
Sunrise 19
Elegia 23
Sooner Than You Think 11
Sub-culture 23
Face Up 20

CD (B-Side only)
Shellshock 22
Shame of the Nation 1
Let's Go 5
Salvation theme
Dub Vulture

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 05:06 (ten years ago) link

Brotherhood
Paradise 11
Weirdo 15
As It Is When It Was 8
Broken Promise 8
Way Of Life 9
Bizarre Love Triangle 37
All Day Long 23-1
Angel Dust 7
Every Little Counts 12

State of the Nation 10

CD2 (B-side only)
1963 (30)
True Faith 38
Touched by the Hand Of God 19
Evil Dust 1

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link

Technique

9 Dream Attack
10 Vanishing Point
18 All The Way
19 Round & Round
21 Fine Time
23 Run
32 Mr Disco
39 Love Less
41 Guilty Partner

CD2 (B-sides only)
Don’t Do It 2
Fine Line
Best & Marsh 2
Run 2 (4)
MTO 3

Bee OK, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 05:20 (ten years ago) link

...so I might as well link this here:

http://thequietus.com/articles/12436-new-order-power-corruption-and-lies-review

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:11 (ten years ago) link

at last!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link

Indeed! And thanks again for reading over the draft there.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 June 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link

I know I talk PC&L down in comparison to Movement, Technique and the 00s albums, but it really is a great album.

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

For me it's just so blisteringly self-evident that PCL is their magnum opus. And I'll always love 'Your Silent Face' above all. The first minute or so of that track is sublimity itself to me.

This was a great poll thread. I wasn't in the right frame of mind to make a ballot when it was voting time but I had a heavy deadline last weekend and spent all weekend listening to NO thanks to this thread. (The Recycle blog versions, naturally-- damn they sound so much better than the officials).

Used the Spotify thread to hear the 00s stuff I've never heard before. Not feeling it so far. There's no fatness to the sound and Barney's voice sounds anonymous. Will try harder.

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link

If there's no fatness to the sound, you might want to double-check your speakers/headphone because you are likely missing the sub bass on the dancier songs. (Also I think Barney sounds "in tune" rather than "anonymous" but YMMV)

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link

Full disclosure, his sound on 'Waiting For the Siren's Call' reminded me of the kid from Owl City and I freaked our and bolted

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link


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