Twenty-Five to One: THE DOORS RESULTS THREAD

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28 ballots received
69 tracks voted for
12,656 points available

points scored by post-Jim material: 12

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:16 (nine years ago) link

hahaha

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:17 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkGnXm-UVmw

69. The Mosquito
Full Circle (1972)
12 points, one vote

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:18 (nine years ago) link

I'm not counting down from here, I just want it to have its day in the sun

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:19 (nine years ago) link

haha i was gonna say, are we counting down every song

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:23 (nine years ago) link

haha nice

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:25 (nine years ago) link

The natural break in the order is at 25, so I'm counting down from there. Well from 26, because I really like no.26. Probably 26-16 tonight, 15-1 tomorrow.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:25 (nine years ago) link

man this is gonna make my night, I got a long night a work ahead, so I'm looking forward to this rollout

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:25 (nine years ago) link

I dont have any special images or anything. How are we with youtubes? Embedding is probably not a good idea, right?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:27 (nine years ago) link

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwtzhkFUTY1qf0uoxo1_500.gif

it cannot matter

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:31 (nine years ago) link

woah

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:35 (nine years ago) link

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7529/rivery.jpg

http://youtu.be/i27t5txCrwg

26. Yes, The River Knows
194 points, nine votes
Waiting For The Sun (1968)

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Glad it made it in--great performances

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 26 May 2013 19:58 (nine years ago) link

http://youtu.be/pldftoUbM80

25. Love Street
Waiting for the Sun (1968)
217 points, ten votes

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:00 (nine years ago) link

Oy. From the sublime to the ridiculous!

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:03 (nine years ago) link

http://youtu.be/45TcV5rZQ4w

24. Hyacinth House
LA Woman (1971)
238 points, eleven votes, one no.1

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:09 (nine years ago) link

#1!

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:11 (nine years ago) link

It got a no.3 too, it has its admirers

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:16 (nine years ago) link

Spotify playlist

I can't find LA Woman (the album) so will have to improvise, should any more tracks appear. I've made it collaborative in case anyone can do better.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:18 (nine years ago) link

http://youtu.be/c1huRuo6Wj0

23. Hello, I Love You
Waiting for the Sun (1968)
258 points, ten votes, two no.1s

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:22 (nine years ago) link

Always wondered if Ray Davies sued (because of "All Day and All of the Night"):

According to the Doors biography No One Here Gets Out Alive, courts in the UK determined in favor of Davies and any royalties for the song are paid to him.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:26 (nine years ago) link

Thought I might be the only #1. As crass and shameless as can be, still exciting (and punky!).

clemenza, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:27 (nine years ago) link

Here's a Spotify link for L.A. Woman.

Brad C., Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:31 (nine years ago) link

Strange - only Changeling, LA Woman and the last three show up

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:33 (nine years ago) link

The Doors overview page on Spotify is weird for me... it only loads partially until you scroll down to the bottom, then finishes loading. No other page has done that.

Only my cardiologist knows for sure. (WilliamC), Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:34 (nine years ago) link

here in France all of LA Woman shows up on spotify except for "Love Her Madly"

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:39 (nine years ago) link

http://youtu.be/hc46l54Cz10

22. You're Lost Little Girl
Strange Days (1967)
260 points, eleven votes

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:39 (nine years ago) link

(xpost) If you're camping out at Morrison's gravesite, you're taking this poll too seriously.

clemenza, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:42 (nine years ago) link

almost every song on Strange Days has the song's title in its first line (not "Horse Latitudes" obv & I guess not "Moonlight Drive" either but the rest)

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:43 (nine years ago) link

haha yeah I thought about going there when Ray died but...well, it's been rainy

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:43 (nine years ago) link

and Jim's not there anyway

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:44 (nine years ago) link

he should go hang it, it's always a party there

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:45 (nine years ago) link

seems like it's always like that

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:53 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPNl6rMsQ3Q

21. When The Music's Over
Strange Days (1967)
264 points, fourteen votes

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 20:54 (nine years ago) link

This is such an amazing song.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:03 (nine years ago) link

alive, she cried

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:07 (nine years ago) link

now?

NOW

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:10 (nine years ago) link

i can remember i think dave marsh or someone writing about the doors for i think a rolling stone guide and comparing them to tommy james and the shondells w/ the understanding that therefore these guys aren't true rock artists, they're bubblegum singles makers ie they're pop ('hello i love you' seems the most obv exhibit a for this argument). at this time i had kinda turned from the avid fandom i had circa 13 to thinking 'these guys are overrated, this poetry isn't very good, morrison's obv an asshole, etc' but i loved tommy james and the shondells so that cornball rockist diss inadvertantly made it impossible for me to write these guys off, cuz in a late 60s am radio context (which is a context they were in - 'light my fire' was a huge huge pop hit, much much huger than jimi or janis ever approached) the doors began to seem everything 13 yr old me imagined they were and more. one reason i can totally sympathize w/ iggy and patti smith and griel marcus and joan didion totally buying in; for ppl my age and younger (too young to have been there) morrison can seem like a cliche and empty ridiculous myth, someone just completely bettered by those who came in his wake be it iggy, patti, nick cave, david yow, whatever, but to have experienced it first hand, to have experienced in the context of the summer of love ('light my fire' knocked the association's 'windy' from #1 and was the arising of this dark byronic elvis figure from the west? i'm not sure i could trust anyone who was there and didn't buy in.

balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:13 (nine years ago) link

Morrison is ridiculous but it's interesting how nowadays people call him out for that, whereas say Robert Plant doesn't get the same flak for being more or less just as ridiculous in Zep days

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:17 (nine years ago) link

"When The Music's Over" is amazing, i am hugely partisan about that song over "The End"

love how short and to the point "Hello, I Love You Is," and I'd been trying to figure out for AGES what "All Day And All Of The Night" reminded me of besides other Kinks songs, question answered!

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:17 (nine years ago) link

Yes! to balls. Why is it that Jim attracts such contempt when nobody else really does? Patti Smith writes in her book about feeling that mixture of awe and contempt when seeing them in 1969.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:19 (nine years ago) link

rightly or wrongly, Morrison shoulders a lot of blame/guilt by association for 'rock lyrics are like poetry' types, whereas Plant's lascivious Tolkien nerd schtick had would up regarded more affectionately

my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:19 (nine years ago) link

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/172873/The+Doors.jpg

http://youtu.be/OAZdkCExkj8

20. Love Her Madly
LA Woman (1971)
267 points, twelve votes

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:21 (nine years ago) link

blargh- ('light my fire' knocked the association's 'windy' from #1 and was replaced by the beatles' 'all you need is love') rather

balls, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:27 (nine years ago) link

Bathroom Echo!

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:27 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiS2kVJ6uJ0

19. People Are Strange
Strange Days (1967)
274 points, twelve votes

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:30 (nine years ago) link

This was looking like a contender early on, but faded badly over the second half of polling

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:31 (nine years ago) link

Balls, Marsh was comparing the Doors unfavorably to Tommy James and the Shondells, saying the latter were the superior singles band.

The line in that review that probably resonated the most for me was about how the Densmore was "too laid back to really kick out the jams." I dig some Doors songs (most of all "Go Insane"), but the drumming was always a huge sticking point for me.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:33 (nine years ago) link

"Love Her Madly" is a fuckin JAM

Euler, Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:34 (nine years ago) link

weird that "The Crystal Ship" won; I guess it's a consensus point in a poll without much consensus

Euler, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:23 (nine years ago) link

I think it needed a perfect alignment of the planets to win - e.g. Riders On The Storm would've won if JF had voted, or if moka's email had got though; and I got another late ballot through last night that probably would also have given Riders the win (it was also unranked, so will remain a mystery). And while I haven't checked, I suspect Riders was leading for about 95% of the time voting was open. It was like nineteen Riders and one Crystal Ship, all playing pass-the-parcel.

I'm so happy The Crystal Ship won though, it's beautiful.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:35 (nine years ago) link

yeah, I voted for it! just even when I was 13 it never stood out at the their best. still, it's a cool result, yay ILM

Euler, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:37 (nine years ago) link

yeah i figured 'riders' was the heavy fave and so when 'la woman' (it's strongest comp in my mind)(ie i voted it #1 lol) finished TOO LOW i thought 'riders' had a pretty clear path though 'crystal ship' had alot of stuff working for it - ubiquitous enough for everyone to know it/remember it but not so ubiquitous (like 'riders' thx to classic rock radio) for ppl to be a little tired of it and maybe underrate it or strategically vote in re: to it or whatever. i love both but i'm glad 'crystal ship' won and not just cuz i like it more than 'riders' but cuz anywhere else 'riders' would win a doors track poll (or if not 'riders' than 'light my fire' (never a real contender on ilx) or 'la woman' or maybe 'people are strange') but on ilx the winner is 'crystal ship'.

balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:49 (nine years ago) link

Has David Bowie ever commented on the Doors?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:57 (nine years ago) link

i can't think of any direct comments but between also doing 'alabama song' and 'jean genie' which ok is just 'i'm a man' but sounds very much like 'i'm a man' via 'roadhouse blues' to me (enough that i always sing some 'roadhouse blues' if i ever do 'jean genie' at karaoke) i can't imagine he's not a fan on some level or at least was at some point.

balls, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:14 (nine years ago) link

I've got Wild Is The Wind right next to Crystal Ship on a well-played old playlist.

how's life, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 23:18 (nine years ago) link

I was one of the #1's for Crystal Ship. It has always struck me as the Doors' one perfect song: ethereal and anthemic, docile to the point of saccharine AM fodder, but with the powerful undertow of the first (perfect) line, Morrison's visions manifesting themselves in the tawdry hedonism of "a thousand girls, a thousand thrills" while Manzarek's super-cheesy piano solo definitively establishes Jim as the lounge singer on the cruise ship towards oblivion, perhaps his most enduring persona, certainly moreso than the Lizard King or Mojo Risin or even Oedipus Rex

I still have lots of love for the Doors, and I always kind of wince whenever I see someone take an easy pot shot at them, always silently applaud whenever anybody sticks up for them. As a band they were certainly more fascinating than great, and every album after the first two are imo a hot mess, but they were huge for me for quite a while when I was younger. They absolutely helped to invent psychedelia, for better or for worse, and for all of their gauche elements, there really is a startling originality there that has not really faded that much after almost fifty years...

The Crystal Ship
Light My Fire
Peace Frog
Soul Kitchen
Touch Me
Waiting for the Sun
The End
The Soft Parade
Hyacinth House
Yes, the River Knows
You're Lost Little Girl
Horse Latitiudes
Riders on the Storm
Break on Through
Strange Days
Indian Summer
Alabama Song
My Wild Love
L'America
Wintertime Love

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 07:31 (nine years ago) link

(also: lol @ me being the only one to vote for "Horse Latitudes" which really isn't that bad as a poem. One of the main reasons I connected so much with Jim was because around the same time I was also obsessed with Faulkner, and both of them were influenced by many of the same poets in their early-20s, ie the French Symbolists. I wd say that a phrase like 'mute nostril agony' probably would not at all be out of place in "Carcassone" or even Flags in the Dust)

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 07:36 (nine years ago) link

"Not to touch the earth" is their actual #1 shit though, it's ok if you guys were on crack when you voted
http://collections.museumca.org/?q=system/files/imagecache/collection_image2/z0004249.jpg

billstevejim, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 07:39 (nine years ago) link

lol

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 07:43 (nine years ago) link

happy to see someone else voted for "My Wild Love," that's such a cool-sounding track

some dude, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 11:10 (nine years ago) link

"Not to touch the earth" is their actual #1 shit though, it's ok if you guys were on crack when you voted

I am proud to have carried the banner for Celebration of the Lizard...was I the only one to vote for it?

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:27 (nine years ago) link

Has the passing of Manzarek and his constant shilling made it safe to like the Doors again?

SongOfSam, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 14:26 (nine years ago) link

If there is one thing I have discovered by watching Doors videos since Ray died, Robby Krieger and his wardrobe are much more embarrassing than Ray ever was. The baggy (pleated?) leather pants at the RnR Hall of Fame induction are particularly indefensible.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 14:50 (nine years ago) link

Is that the one with Eddie Vedder singing and Krieger duckwalking? It is heartbreaking.

Two votes for Lizard - iirc balls is your soulmate.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, looking at Google Images, it appears that Krieger just gave up at some point and started wearing novelty pants always.

Josefa, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 15:40 (nine years ago) link

Is that the one with Eddie Vedder singing and Krieger duckwalking? It is heartbreaking.

And Ray playing a blue-light special Casio. :(

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:34 (nine years ago) link

Best thing they ever did? lol at Eddie not knowing what to do with himself during the solos.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:49 (nine years ago) link

yeah I voted for celebration of the lizard also

balls, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:55 (nine years ago) link

Everybody loves my baby.

how's life, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 11:14 (nine years ago) link

biggest lizard named after Doors frontman

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 11:24 (nine years ago) link

SHE GET HIGH BWYEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:29 (nine years ago) link

i was going to vote in the poll and then I got distracted and now that I've visited with the rollout I feel bad

I'm listening to the Doors now as penance

sorry ismael hope we r still cool

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:30 (nine years ago) link

wuhladeegodibbledownabout an hour ago!

how's life, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:35 (nine years ago) link

actually I have a legit question -- how do ilxors rate their albums? I'll admit to really only ever listening to The Very Best Of, a lot a lot alot

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:36 (nine years ago) link

xpost loool

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:36 (nine years ago) link

Of course we're cool, silly! I'm actually just as grateful to everyone who didn't vote - I feel like we achieved perfection here, a single ballot more and somehow it would've turned into a boring Light My Fire landslide.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:44 (nine years ago) link

ohhh so it was perfect without me?

hmph

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:46 (nine years ago) link

:)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 20:46 (nine years ago) link

actually I have a legit question -- how do ilxors rate their albums? I'll admit to really only ever listening to The Very Best Of, a lot a lot alot

I think the first 3 are all great, but Strange Days is a total classic imo.

wk, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:29 (nine years ago) link

and probably has more killer songs that aren't on the greatest hits collections than any of the other albums

wk, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 21:31 (nine years ago) link

TELEVISION SKIES! TELEVISION SKIES! TELEVISION SKIES!

how's life, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:15 (nine years ago) link

i still really hate one of the organ breaks in Break On Through

the one where it goes DOOT DOOT DOOTDOOT DOOTDOOT DA DOOTDOOT ... DA DOOTDOOT DOOOTDOOT

the short sharp bursts annoy me, it reminds me of car horns playing la cucaracha but not in the good awesome way

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:32 (nine years ago) link

it's trying to break on through maaaan

wk, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:38 (nine years ago) link

stop playing like a toddler maaaaan

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:43 (nine years ago) link

actually I have a legit question -- how do ilxors rate their albums? I'll admit to really only ever listening to The Very Best Of, a lot a lot alot

I like all of them! Seriously, that's like six albums in a row with only a few dud tracks here and there, pretty consistent if you ask me, having said that I don't think any of their albums are genuinely great.

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 10:02 (nine years ago) link

Strange Days, definitely. Less organ and more piano, less blues and more psychedelia.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:19 (nine years ago) link

Less blues is always a good sign with the Doors.

how's life, Thursday, 6 June 2013 15:24 (nine years ago) link

otm

BADEEPACHONKA EEESONGHONG YEEAAAAHH RRRIIIIGGGHT

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:01 (nine years ago) link

brb, going over to the "Posts you had second thoughts about" thread to enter the "Cambodian grocer" joke I was about to make in re: BADEEPACHONKA EEESONGHONG

hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:05 (nine years ago) link

lol that's terrible

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:07 (nine years ago) link

Less blues is always a good sign with the Doors.

Hmmmm, not always

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:13 (nine years ago) link

HYYYEAAAHHHURRRRIGGGHT

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:38 (nine years ago) link

welliwokeupdeezmaownin'

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:42 (nine years ago) link

wellthecuawshissssbahmahwindowowowww

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:44 (nine years ago) link

it's the funnest way to sing, cards on the table here

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:53 (nine years ago) link

i love it

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:28 (nine years ago) link

yeah i've done doors karaoke where i didn't sing a single word except the occasional 'well ALRIGHT NOW' as punctuation, ppl "loved" it

balls, Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:26 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

Ugh. “Crystal Ship”? Really? “BEEE FORE YOU… listen to the first-class pop tune 20th Century Fox I’d like to bore you for two minutes and thirty seconds.” Lovely piano solo though.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 17 November 2022 09:18 (two weeks ago) link


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