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Can Young Thug have his own thread? 1017 Thug is one of the mixtapes of the year, and the guy is killing every guest verse he lands (and he's landing way more than I can keep up with). Feels like it's only a matter of time until he gets his crossover moment, and when he does it's going to be really wild.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4l2e80vR0w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4oVUEGtM54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orIrGp5yL6k

(He only takes the leadoff verse on that last one, but it's a great verse.)

Evan R, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:27 (six years ago) link

yeah this guy is just great

1017 thug is fantastic almost all the way through... "shooting star" is the real underrated track on there imo

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 18:32 (six years ago) link

"Shooting Star" is crazy catchy. I wish the Gucci verse were more substantial (though I think he sounds really good on that track regardless).

Evan R, Monday, 20 May 2013 18:40 (six years ago) link

been meaning to check out 1017 thug bc i love the hell out of i came from nothing 2

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 20 May 2013 18:54 (six years ago) link

I still think ICFN2 is his best release.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 20 May 2013 21:10 (six years ago) link

he should become a star.

sisilafami, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:13 (six years ago) link

ICFN2 is definitely his most approachable release, and the one I listen to the most, but 1017 is way more interesting, since it's so far out there so much of the time. It's one of those tapes that feels like it's more interested in testing ideas than presenting them

Evan R, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:21 (six years ago) link

really can't deal with this dude on any level, can't take the boring autotune garble or the tinny production or the sickly melodies at all. only midway through this did i remember that you all hyped him up last year and i couldn't even get through that mixtape

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:12 (six years ago) link

what new ideas anyway? it's like bargain basement future (also how many rappers are doing garbled autotune shit atm?)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:13 (six years ago) link

oh my god "tabernacle" is unlistenable, those whoa whoa whoas

this is almost all unlistenable

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:34 (six years ago) link

i'm still not sure Young Thug isn't an elaborate prank like when Odd Future announced the new signing 'Young Nigga'

yeeznuts (some dude), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:37 (six years ago) link

I was going to say this is like the laziest and most generic rap name imaginable.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 11:28 (six years ago) link

MC Rapper

go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 11:30 (six years ago) link

'ICFN2' is the tape i return more often to - especially the euphoria that comes across stuff like 'i know', who's on top' or 'curtains' -, but '1017 thug' feels more coherent to me - 'nigeria' ftw.

'ICFN3' didn't really make that much of an impression, besides a few songs - 'foreign' especially. i prob should listen to it again, tho.

rusty_allen, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 11:42 (six years ago) link

The Future comparison doesn't work for me, because Future's energy is so subdued; Young Thug is always wired-up and spazzed out. And some of Thug's stuff is deliberately obnoxious, but I have a high tolerance for that because I listened to way too much punk growing up. (It's interesting that Thug is one of the few rappers who really gives off a strong punk vibe, even though there's no real indication he's actually influenced by punk in any direct way.)

Evan R, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:34 (six years ago) link

lotta swag rappers have nasal cali punk voices, whether by coincidence or whatever

yeeznuts (some dude), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:52 (six years ago) link

been wanting someone to curate a mallpunk raps tape for ages

r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 11:47 (six years ago) link

"Fuck My Tattoos" and "Angry Sex" would make good Young Thug contributions to that tape

Evan R, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:43 (six years ago) link

I have a high tolerance for that because I listened to way too much punk growing up

i feel absolved. it's not me it's punk

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:09 (six years ago) link

It definitely helps to be inoculated against some of the nasally-ness

Evan R, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:42 (six years ago) link

the noise he makes at 1.05 of 'two cups stuffed' is up there with the best rap noises

tpp, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:39 (six years ago) link

does this guy write good lyrics

we'll only know if the thread starts incorporating transcribed verses

some dude, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:57 (six years ago) link

brb transcribing 'haiti slang'

tpp, Thursday, 30 May 2013 12:29 (six years ago) link

lol ok well I'm listening to "2 Cups Stuffed" and according to me the answer to "does he write good lyrics" is "possbily kinda" however his style is kinda undeniable, and "L-E-A-N-I-N-G/lean, lean, lean, lean, lean lean lean!" just killed me. also really like "gimme a cup twice/go light on the ice"

1 thug 2 cups

some dude, Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:44 (six years ago) link

"Gimme a cup twice" cracks me up. That song really nails the frustration of having to wait for anything. I always think of it whenever I'm in line at the grocery store or a sandwich shop or whatever now

Evan R, Thursday, 30 May 2013 18:40 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

According to some thinly sourced (or non-sourced) tweets Young Thug is in jail, but nobody knows why or for how long. Feel like the Internet is letting me down by not providing details on this one.

Evan R, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 20:17 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYX7RmqsOXE

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 05:39 (six years ago) link

imo this dude wouldn't deserve his own thread yet but i guess the rolling thread has been dead as ... dead lately so i guess i approve

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:26 (six years ago) link

i do suspect this will end up being an ilx easter island style tribute to a forgotten rapper though

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:27 (six years ago) link

lol probably.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:49 (six years ago) link

Ah, those DJ Spinz tapes have been pretty good.

MikoMcha, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTT0nlnXlqI#t=117

Evan R, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:03 (five years ago) link

I cannot see a shirtless PeeWee Longway without thinking of that scene where Danny DeVito crawls out of a couch naked in "It's Always Sunny"

Evan R, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:04 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Young Thug and Meek Mill work very, very well together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG5o88Iz49M

Evan R, Monday, 20 January 2014 20:27 (five years ago) link

'Danny Glover' = song of the decade

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 20 January 2014 20:28 (five years ago) link

I was wondering if radio would pick up on that one. It'd be an exciting hit, but I guess it's not gonna happen unless Drake jumps on the remix or something

Evan R, Monday, 20 January 2014 20:43 (five years ago) link

can you get a song like that on American radio?

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 20 January 2014 20:45 (five years ago) link

Not really. It's not unheard of for regional club hits to worm their way onto radio, but the structure of this one is pretty unorthodox. Still, with enough momentum, I dunno, I was holding out hope.

Evan R, Monday, 20 January 2014 20:58 (five years ago) link

if drake remixes it

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:00 (five years ago) link

which didn't seem all that far fetched after the Vine of him geeking out to the track went viral. Track also has big co-signs from Kanye West and Jay-Z, so that's some pretty substantial support

Evan R, Monday, 20 January 2014 21:08 (five years ago) link

i do suspect this will end up being an ilx easter island style tribute to a forgotten rapper though

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:27 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i was basically giving up on him right when he finally started to get radio traction

what a long strange run its been

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:14 (five years ago) link

i dont know where you guys are that regional hits dont get played on radio without drake verses

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:15 (five years ago) link

i mean, unless youre in new york, like me

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:15 (five years ago) link

i was being sarcastic

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:16 (five years ago) link

hadn't heard this before...wow

has he put anything out since 1017 thug?

tpp, Monday, 20 January 2014 21:50 (five years ago) link

restraint or oversight on aero not quoting the lines after "lean/lean/lean/etc" upthread? how could you resist "500 horses inside my machine/ 500 DNAs in my ding ding"

rob, Monday, 20 January 2014 21:53 (five years ago) link

"Stoner," "Danny Glover" are the big singles

"Some More" http://www.trillhd.com/video/5059/young-thug-some-more
"No Fuck" today http://www.complex.com/music/2014/01/young-thug-bloody-jay-no-fuck

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 20 January 2014 21:55 (five years ago) link

there was a rumour abt this guy floating around on twitter that is, um, interesting to google.

tpp, Monday, 20 January 2014 21:57 (five years ago) link

out ridin' on a bike on a very late night has p much been my life this week

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 23 June 2017 19:39 (two years ago) link

not my cup of tea

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 23 June 2017 19:56 (two years ago) link

oops this was meant for the vince staples thread

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 23 June 2017 19:57 (two years ago) link

So this did 50% of Kodak Black's first week numbers. That's what I was afraid of. Definitely not saying that it devaluates the music but seeing as he has been a buzz artist for so long without it translating into actual sales I'm semi worried about his future.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 2 July 2017 20:53 (two years ago) link

* semi worried about his commercial future and how it will impact his artistic arc. Thug doesn't need to sell in order to be good but I'm not sure how he'll take it if people begin to consider him a flop.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 2 July 2017 21:03 (two years ago) link

this record sounding v good, might be his best yet

imago, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 11:03 (two years ago) link

Do U Love Me (especially the delivery from 2:10) really doing it for me this week. Me or Us, despite being lyrically nonsensical works as a tender moment. I also like the quasi-festival/Manu Chaoness of For Y'All

Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 11:14 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h63FK4tlLU

Number None, Saturday, 19 August 2017 19:17 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

hell yea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyrQog0JXOA

gr8080, Friday, 22 September 2017 17:31 (one year ago) link

damn this EP is impressive

Evan R, Thursday, 28 September 2017 17:13 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/kevin090smith/young-thug-rocket-man-remix

this has absolutely no business being as good as it is

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 16:16 (one year ago) link

photo is delightful

sprout god (lag∞n), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 16:23 (one year ago) link

Soundcloud link is down, so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwXjgSKBJDs

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 13:32 (one year ago) link

wow this rules, what the hell

ufo, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:38 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

new EP is on spotify, elton sample included

nba jungboy (voodoo chili), Monday, 24 September 2018 05:01 (eleven months ago) link

This EP is good. I love the beat on "Real in My Veins." LODT was has always been my favorite producer for Thug.

As I see D-40 mentioned on Twitter, the discourse around this release/Thug's career is extremely boring (the Box Office Mojo-fication of music coverage is lamentable in general). I've been slowly reading Jesse McCarthy's n+1 piece on trap—which imo is pretentious in all the best ways but ymmv—so in contrast to that here's this:

Young Thug enacts a Charlie Parker theory of trap. Virtuosity, drugginess, genius, vulnerability, an impish childishness almost as a compensation for the overabundance of talent, the superfluidity of imagination. A Cocteau from East Atlanta, he teases the beat, skipping off it like a yo-yo, yodeling, crooning, blurting, squawking, purring, working his game on you, finessing, playing ad libs like Curtis Mayfield worked strings, or scatting and growling low like Louis Armstrong if he were sweating it out in a freestyle battle with James Brown, bouncing back and forth between personalities. His polymorphously perverse sexuality is so insistently graphic and deadpan that it has virtually zero erotic charge, au courant pimp talk channeled through a kind of private board game of his own imagination, a Candyland fantasia slimed in promethazine. By contrast, his persona oozes sex. In leather jackets, ultratight jeans and Janet Jackson piercing arrangements, he’s a Mick Jagger–ish rake on the make who is also shy and easily wounded, suddenly open for a hug. A favorite and telling picture posted to Instagram account thuggerthugger1 (5.2 million followers) captures him with his arm around Sir Elton John, posing like a polite politician in photo-op mode (Obama-alt) next to Sir Elton, who is dressed in a gold-trim Adidas tracksuit and a black thugger cap.

If the outlandish persona were all there was to it, he might be written off as a variant to Weezy that went nowhere. But the music really does, somehow, sound like the future, like something that’s never been tried before, a radical experiment. His concern for innovating, like his persistent concern for his kidney health, is a marker of identity, not just a lifestyle. The boundaries he pushes are only partly for our benefit; his chameleon love affair with the frisson of the louche, the lawless elasticity of language, and the plasticity of the self-fashioning body in motion is all of a piece. He insists on being the soloist and chorus all at once; his is an orchestral impulse, a surround sound lyricizing every inch of space on the track. Words aren’t about what they mean, but, in the spirit of Baraka’s “Black Dada Nihilismus,” only how they sound. They are rhetorical and lyrical ammunition, raw material to freak like Jimi, not satisfied until the instrument wails, weirds out, trips over itself with a surplus that is no longer within respectable or even recognizable bounds — hence Thugger’s fundamental queerness in the most capacious sense of that word. Free spirit from day one: “When I was 12, my feet were so small I wore my sisters’ glitter shoes. My dad would whoop me: ‘You’re not going to school now, you’ll embarrass us!’ But I never gave a f —  what people think.” The music critic for the Washington Post writes that “if he lived inside a comic book, his speech balloons would be filled with Jackson Pollock splatters,” which is halfway there (why not Basquiat?). Thugger is more exciting than Pollock, who never wore a garment described by Billboard as “geisha couture meets Mortal Kombat’s Raiden” that started a national conversation. Thugger’s work is edgier, riskier, sans white box; if anything it is closer to Warhol in coloration, pop art without the pretension. It is loved, admired, hated, and feared by people who have never and may never set foot in a museum of “modern art.”

https://nplusonemag.com/issue-32/essays/notes-on-trap/

rob, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:44 (eleven months ago) link

man idk that's pretty bad

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:49 (eleven months ago) link

i mean i'm probably not on that piece's wavelength tbh

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 20:51 (eleven months ago) link

lol no worries :) I might be alone in feeling nostalgic for 90s-ish academics-trying-be-hip cultural commentary

rob, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 21:08 (eleven months ago) link

tbh I'd be up for reading just about anything that didn't start from the premise that dude has flushed his career down the toilet like we're all shareholders

rob, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 21:16 (eleven months ago) link

why is so much hip hop discourse like that? I don't get it?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 23:17 (eleven months ago) link

i am a shareholder in Young Thug Inc.

flopson, Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:02 (eleven months ago) link

YTI is at underperform so you might want to explore your options

rob, Thursday, 27 September 2018 00:31 (eleven months ago) link

man idk that's pretty bad

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:49 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 27 September 2018 02:10 (eleven months ago) link

i think the new project is good enough but not touching the stuff from 2014-2016

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 27 September 2018 02:11 (eleven months ago) link

last thing that really grabbed me was jeffery

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 27 September 2018 02:46 (eleven months ago) link

selling my stock

flopson, Thursday, 27 September 2018 03:45 (eleven months ago) link

A lot of writers are really invested in promoting the narrative of Young Thug as some unassailable creative genius, aren't they? All of those name drops in the n+1 piece are astounding, it almost reads like parody of the discourse that has surrounded him over the last 5 years or so.

triggercut, Thursday, 27 September 2018 04:05 (eleven months ago) link

n plus 1 sux

flopson, Thursday, 27 September 2018 04:18 (eleven months ago) link

good Noisey interview with the engineer, interesting comments on the Rocket Man leak:

How hard of a secret is that to keep?
I actually hadn’t heard it until I got it for this project, which was after the leak. I don’t listen to any leaks. If I see it, I block whoever posted it and move on. It’s that upsetting where it’s like, I’d just rather not. So when someone wants to talk about it, I just block them and go about my day. It’s just easier. I would be angry all the time if that’s all I saw. I saw it briefly, and people were hitting me, and I was just like, I don’t know. It’s one of those situations where you hope it doesn’t ruin a great song and this time we didn’t let that happen. When it comes to songs leaking, it’s such a sore spot especially for us considering how many songs leaked in the past. I’m just happy this one made the cut. It’s such a big moment for him, that I’m glad he didn’t let people outside of the camp ruin it for him.

niels, Friday, 28 September 2018 12:55 (eleven months ago) link

He is awful live.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 6 October 2018 03:13 (eleven months ago) link

tbh many rappers in that genre are

unless you're there to mosh and party, then they're great

niels, Saturday, 6 October 2018 10:16 (eleven months ago) link

nah even for that he’s terrible

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 6 October 2018 11:57 (eleven months ago) link

tbh many rappers in that genre are

― niels, Saturday, October 6, 2018 6:16 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lag∞n, Saturday, 6 October 2018 15:42 (eleven months ago) link

I saw him live a couple of years ago and he was pretty good as far as I can remember.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 8 October 2018 09:27 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

new album (So Much Fun) just dropped

Number None, Friday, 16 August 2019 10:33 (one month ago) link

It has a song called 'Sup Mate' :'-D

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 16 August 2019 13:56 (one month ago) link

Appropriate album title IMO

Tim F, Sunday, 18 August 2019 03:39 (one month ago) link

a lot of fun, indeed, but not enough weirdness imo. lots of highlights before it gets a bit bogged down by guest stars towards the end.

nav is truly terrible, idk why all the trap guys like him so much

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Sunday, 18 August 2019 04:03 (one month ago) link

what future song uses the exact flow as "lil baby"? this is killing me

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 21:58 (one month ago) link

oh yeah, just the single from his last album lol

jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:31 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

album rules, much better than beautiful thugger girls

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:12 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah it's easily his best since Jeffrey (and his first #1 album too albeit almost all due to streaming) so the lack of discussion here is a little surprising.

methanietanner, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:20 (two weeks ago) link

yeah i've definitely come around on the album, tho idk if i like it more than BTG, which i liked more than most

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:35 (two weeks ago) link

it's a fun easy listen imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:37 (two weeks ago) link

really all of it ranges from pretty good to great except for that track with nav

normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 19:21 (two weeks ago) link

"what's the move"!!!! what a song

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 9 September 2019 23:06 (one week ago) link

I like it but I haven't really found anything that jumps out too much compared to Jeffery and BTG. Production is solid but not that interesting, as is Thugger's delivery

frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:54 (one week ago) link


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