Great!
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 22 May 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
Fantastic news! <3
And re: her social media, I think 95% of the time it's someone from her management handling it, but she has posted an occasional tour selfie (or a poetry collection endorsement recently) and she apparenly enjoys compiling playlists (she seems to be into Colin Stetson, Tirzah, and Big Thieg atm). But it's so rare that I'm always a bit surprised when once in a blue moon there's some activity.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 22 May 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
I had that double lp version of "Dry" with the demos. I did record it to minidisc ...
I didn't realise that the corresponding cd edition wasn't two CDs as well, but one long one.
Is that getting the remaster reissue treatment?
― Mark G, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link
If so, would it be a rare instance of ... remastered demos?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
Well, I meant the package...
Still, it wouldn't be the first time
― Mark G, Friday, 22 May 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
‘Dry’ vinyl reissue and ‘Dry - Demos’ vinyl/CD/download – released 24th July 2020. Full back catalogue of vinyl reissues and stand-alone demo albums to follow.Pre-order: Dry - Demos: https://t.co/kZTJDz5KtKDry vinyl: https://t.co/1kFbfgoCAo pic.twitter.com/UxarCGnqcT— PJ Harvey (@PJHarveyUK) May 28, 2020
― Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
Here they are
― Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
thank god these are finally going to be rolling out. Dry has always needed a remaster, to my ears.
― akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
Dry has always sounded great to me, imo.
Does that include any of that unreleased stuff seen on the cassette labels?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
Yeah I've always liked the sound of Dry
― Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link
it's just so quiet. I'm not asking for all the dynamics to be gone, but a little more heft and a volume boost would be appreciated
― akm, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link
I found my minidisc copy of Dry&demos yesterday.
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
DRY DEMOS!!!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
Oh man want to hear
I bought the original Dry vinyl + demos back in 1991. The demos are great - to me, much more satisfying than the Rid of Me demos. That Dry+demo release is probably one of the records I have that is worth most cash – I guess this is likely to change now. I'm more excited about the reissues to come later though. If they're all going to come out one by one, she's missing a trick – I would happily splash out £200 on a complete box set, but if there isn't going to be one, I'll just pick up what I don't already have on vinyl (Is This Desire? + Stories).
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
I have never heard the Dry demos, only the ones released as 4-track Demos, which was my introduction to learning how songs are made. I was 18 or 19 at the time and didn't know much about how music actually got written/recorded.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
yeah would like an expanded 4-track Demos please (also a live Hope Six and/or all new)(haven't heard the soundtracks, are they good?)
― dow, Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
Was "Easy" ever released on another album other than 4 track demos?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
it is easily (lol) one of my favorites of her early songs
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
akm OTM IMHO. Even by the standards of its time, the original release of Dry was mastered at a curiously low volume.
― The multiplying villainies of nature / Do swarm upon him (Vast Halo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
I bought the original Dry vinyl + demos back in 1991. The demos are great - to me, much more satisfying than the Rid of Me demos. That Dry+demo release is probably one of the records I have that is worth most cash [...]
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:41 (thirty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah same here. 1992, I think actually. I checked Discogs a while back and it was selling for an average of £200
― Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
The idea of releasing demos for To Bring You My Love, Is This Desire, White Chalk, or Let England Shake makes me ridiculously excited for this reissue series.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
I was weighing getting out of vinyl completely but a full set of PJH is making me rethink it.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
I guess this is too early to tell, but I wonder if there will also be a mop up of the stray released tracks on these reissues?
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
Interesting to hear different perspectives, because I actually think "To Bring You My Love" is the one that sounds mastered at a curiously low volume (esp. coming from peak Flood), and that the fucking-with-you dynamics of "Rid of Me" does it no favors, and would love to hear both of *those* remixed/remastered. But "Dry" ... I played it for someone I know who had never heard it before, or really anything by her, and he said it reminded him of the way early Zeppelin is recorded, which is to say, awesome. The drums on "Dry" alone are some of my favorite recorded drums ever (another aspect of the trio hurt by the famed Albini Wall of Thud).
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
The remastering of Dry was done by Head who recorded/produced the original, so I hope he won't fuck with the sound too much.
The reissues have been in the works for quite a while, I remember John Parish posting pics of some test pressings approved by him on FB in 2013/2014.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
I want a dumb nickname like Flood or Head
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link
Dry sounds great, Rid of Me sounds bad. The sound of Rid of Me always reminds me of the similarly weedy & hard to enjoy sound John Zorn produced for Boredoms around the same time on Wow 2.
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 May 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
xpost don't forget Youth
Spot
― dow, Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
Apparently Flood gained his nickname when he was a young tape op, because he regularly spilled cups of tea on the mixing desk.
― The multiplying villainies of nature / Do swarm upon him (Vast Halo), Thursday, 28 May 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
Spot! Forgot Spot. Youth is new to me. Flood could be a surname too. Sorry for the derail.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 28 May 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
1992, I think actually.
Oh yeah, no doubt you're right. This is kinda boring, but I thought 1991 cos I know I got it when I still lived in my mum's house, but I didn't move out till April 1992 so it could have been early that spring. That makes sense. It was sunny when I got the bus to Edinburgh on a Saturday morning, and sunny back with that record. I hadn't heard a note from her before then - just bought it based on the review, as I always did then.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
Ha. It was March 1992, so just before your move. I also bought it on release day just on the strength of reviews.
― Duke, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
Rid of Me sounds bad
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
otmfm
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 May 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
Well, that's the pro and con of many Albini productions: crank it and it *does* sounds like the band is in the room right in front of you. But sometimes you don't want the band right in front of you. I'm not sure that's what the studio is necessarily for. That's what live performances (and live recordings) are for! Albini prides himself on taking himself out of the mix (so to speak). He's just there to capture the moment in the most pure way possible and so, just a guy recording the band, doing their bidding, and so on. But the ironic result on "Rid of Me" is that he is more present and apparent than ever, which is why literally no one fails to mention the sound of the record (again, pro and con). Don't get me wrong, I love "Rid of Me," I just still think it was the wrong approach for a trio of such cool, unique musicians, and it's why despite liking all of the songs it's the only thing keeping me from listening to it as much as I otherwise would.
(I should also stress that I think the Albini approach does often work, and to the band's benefit, whether the Jesus Lizard or Low or Bedhead or Page/Plant.)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link
I dunno. I think that approach on Rid of Me makes it more intense than it would have been had it been recorded differently, and that intensity is kind of the point.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
Can't really disagree, but I don't think we would have missed out on any intensity with a different approach. Intensity is kind of her thing!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link
He's just there to capture the moment in the most pure way possible and so, just a guy recording the band, doing their bidding, and so on. But the ironic result on "Rid of Me" is that he is more present and apparent than ever
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link
Oh, I have no doubt it was her idea! I just find it distracting is all, since so few bands exploit dynamics in that way, period. But I'm also not a big fan of the guitar sounds on "Rid of Me," iirc. I should give it a fresh listen (if my family ever leaves the house, because they will tell me to turn it the fuck off, because see above).
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 May 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link
I guess the 4-track Demos album presents those songs in a much less overwhelming arrangements? I don't understand how Rid of Me is anything but a powerful band reaching for the most visceral, slamming sound possible, and absolutely nailing it. I'm glad it exists and I'm glad it sounds nothing like 99% of my record collection.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link
I mean - the dynamics and drama are the *point* of those songs.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
Trying to imagine Rid of Me with a more 1993 Alt-Rock identikit production, and it's not pretty in all the wrong ways.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link
rid of me, produced by butch vig
― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 May 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
or Ross Robinson
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
Gross
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 May 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link
Every record produced by Butch Vig would have been better without him, except perhaps for Garbage's first two albums.
― pomenitul, Friday, 29 May 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link
Rid Of Me...produced by Mitchell Froom
Bells and whistles
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 29 May 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link
I try to imagine Rid of Me produced by Flood all the time
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 29 May 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link