D'Angelo - Black Messiah (2014)

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that "please" is doing a lot of work

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:27 (seven years ago) link

i want to believe

H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:28 (seven years ago) link

DON'T JINX IT

shit tie (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:28 (seven years ago) link

try the video. it's good times.

H-E-double-s1ockisticks (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:29 (seven years ago) link

i watched the other ones, i love how they're able to function as a tight band w/no rehearsal because they all have that common vocabulary of Prince's stage cues ("on the 1" = stop, then come back with "good god!" where "god" always falls on beat 3, etc). i mean i know it all comes from james brown, but it's really specific Prince shit.

shit tie (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:33 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

the groove @ 4:22

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 21 June 2013 22:32 (seven years ago) link

just snagged tickets to the williamsburg show, psyched to see him being him

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 22 June 2013 04:15 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/soundbetter/dangelo-questlove-at-theatre

this is quite good from what ive heard so far, even if it could have been recorded in 2001 (not that i dislike it, but it just seems a bit of a shame, hes still playing the same old rap instrumentals, pretty much the same old covers he was doing in 96... why?!), rather than march of this year. i dont have much faith in his comeback really yielding anything that amazing at this point. and it seems kinda fucked up that bilal is still releasing good records, and actually has a strong identity of his own, while were all still waiting for dangelo to make the album we all thought he could make...

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 08:06 (seven years ago) link

actually, this is pretty great (even if it is covers). from the 57 min mark, its pretty special. and just makes me more frustrated at his general lack of output. argh.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 08:57 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

enough already! (as the americans say)

expecting this to be out end of 2015.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 January 2014 21:17 (six years ago) link

2014 please?

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:13 (six years ago) link

ugh. i have a feeling we're going to have to wait for the confluence of D both being ready to let go of the record + being sober enough to do the promo and tour.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:20 (six years ago) link

quest keeps getting my hopes up

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:21 (six years ago) link

quest is 100 PERCENT on some "if i shame him about this enough in public maybe he'll be motivated to finish it up and get it out" shit

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:22 (six years ago) link

has he said anything recently?

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:25 (six years ago) link

i don't remember. but when they played brooklyn almost a year ago that was totally the vibe i got from quest.

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:26 (six years ago) link

they both said the album was done a year ago!

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:26 (six years ago) link

quest said was 98% done when i saw them iirc

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:27 (six years ago) link

close enough

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:28 (six years ago) link

right, a year ago, i figured if quest has been silent since then we're in trouble. not to mention the cancelled shows and drug rumors. i'm still holding on to hope though.

close enough

haha

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:30 (six years ago) link

he's doing a poor job of shaming dangelo in that case (i dont think he is doing that in any case, i think hes too aware of dangelo's mental fragility, he doesnt want to upset things too much, beyond airing some frustration and playful digs about his career inertia - dangelo wont let the new record be heard until hes laboured it to death most likely)

StillAdvance, Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:37 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/06/dangelo-announces-expanded-reissue-of-1996s-live-at-the-jazz-cafe/

on the one hand this will be nice, i've never heard it

on the other hand it's not the new album

lex pretend, Thursday, 6 March 2014 09:10 (six years ago) link

it's really good, wish there had been an official record for the Voodoo tour though.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 6 March 2014 14:32 (six years ago) link

check yr mail lex

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 March 2014 15:24 (six years ago) link

thankyou!!

lex pretend, Thursday, 6 March 2014 16:08 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

http://insideplaya.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/an-open-letter-to-dangelo/

ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 01:19 (six years ago) link

ha the effect of this letter putting in D'angelo on blast is mostly that it makes me want to listen to D'angelo

The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 04:54 (six years ago) link

I hope he replies with a new album.

Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 05:00 (six years ago) link

Word

The Reverend, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 06:15 (six years ago) link

Dag. Bridge: burned.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 13:32 (six years ago) link

who is "inside playa"?

display name changed. (amateurist), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:51 (six years ago) link

Yes, wonder that too, and how is his dissing everyone gonna help

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 16:53 (six years ago) link

it's gary harris

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:09 (six years ago) link

seems like an asshole!

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:09 (six years ago) link

also petulant? what's the point of this beyond some dude feeling aggrieved about being written out of history

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:10 (six years ago) link

the last paragraph seems especially bitchy (it's true I don't hear a lot of James or George in his music, but Sly definitely. Prince too)

hard out here for an A&R guy

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:16 (six years ago) link

sounds like a good friend!

Spottie, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 17:20 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Billboard a week ago:

In March of 2013, Liles told Billboard, "We're trying to finish the album. Right now we have 13 songs done, trying to think about the sequence of the album, mastering and mixing within the next two weeks, and release the thing. Ain't no question it's coming."

Judging by that tectonic pace, the album actually should be just about approximately almost 100 percent done right about now. Here's what Liles said:

"Here's the thing: with D'Angelo it was a process. He didn't perform for 10 years and he's been working on an album for the past 12 years. I actually got him to go out and do 30 shows (in 2011-2012), and then we did some 'Brothers in Arms' shows. I said, 'We have to get motivated around what people want to hear from you, and what does it mean to come back to that space?' He very bluntly put it, 'Kev, the studio and the stage: that's my lifeblood. Now that I've touched it again, now that I see it again, I wanna be sure that the baby I'm about to have -- the album -- that I take it to the point where it's all it can be.'

"There'll be an album this year: there's 14 records so far, we might have a couple of bonus records, but all the recording is basically done and we're mixing and mastering now. Definitely, he'll be back.

Claiming he has 14 records ready to go sort of undercuts even the modest claim that he even has one record ready to go.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:20 (six years ago) link

"record" = song

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:21 (six years ago) link

yeah, usually modern industry guys say 'record' and mean song, not album.

some dude, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:22 (six years ago) link

(that usage confused me when i first heard it but now i hear it all the time from people in the rap world)

xp

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:23 (six years ago) link

Sorry, was confused, because he calls them songs earlier.

Anyway, not holding my breath.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 18:57 (six years ago) link

lol yeah mixing and mastering only two weeks haha

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 19:02 (six years ago) link

I hope he finishes the album and then keeps it to himself because it's too good and the world is not ready yet

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 19:05 (six years ago) link

He means two weeks, total, not in a row. Like, one hour one week, three the next, third week off, one year off, two days in a row ...

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 19:28 (six years ago) link

yeah i voted for Black Messiah in P&J in 2014 but not for my local paper's year-end list that's due in November, and as i do the paper's list this year i'm sticking to 2015 releases. i'm not really worried about this album being overlooked!

The Cuddling Of The American Mind (some dude), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:23 (four years ago) link

I've thought about including it because I didn't last year (I've a vivid memory of downloading and listening to it on my way to jury duty on Dec. 15). I included Beyonce's album on my 2014 ballot. But I don't wanna deny a good album a spot.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:26 (four years ago) link

it should still be on ballots (speaking as someone who has nothing to do with P&J). tail end of a year has always basically meant the next year, for these kinds of things.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:38 (four years ago) link

It depends on the critic. If I've been assigned to review it, thus forcing me to concentrate for a deadline's sake, I'd have included it. I wasn't, so I absorbed it in leisurely fashion over the holiday.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 12:47 (four years ago) link

even before Beyonce and D'Angelo dropped their buzzer beaters, i've always been pretty big on keeping my ears open to December releases on my year-end lists, some of my favorite albums in recent memory (including Last Train To Paris) got in under the wire on my lists that way. and that's partly because i know i'll have no desire to fit them into the next year's list.

The Cuddling Of The American Mind (some dude), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 13:41 (four years ago) link

depends when you (have to) make your EOY lists, right? most critics will prob submit multiple ones (i've submitted a couple already) but i don't really consider them ~official until my own final one on 31 dec. then that's it, done, not revisiting or thinking or carrying over

lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 14:14 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Coming back to this for the first time in a while, enjoying it even more now that the critical buzz haze has dissipated. The arrangements and production are just fucking masterful.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, 9 January 2016 04:45 (four years ago) link

yea I've been playing this a lot lately, it's really really good

marcos, Saturday, 9 January 2016 15:46 (four years ago) link

Also the rhythm section is so fucking sick, like on par with prime motown, stax, James Brown band, p much any groove rhythm section.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Monday, 11 January 2016 02:21 (four years ago) link

could see it wind up being my album of the decade

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2016 03:39 (four years ago) link

It's not as good as Voodoo but very few albums are.

gaz "puffy" coombes (The Reverend), Friday, 15 January 2016 04:54 (four years ago) link

literally none, imho

art baengels (monotony), Friday, 15 January 2016 05:04 (four years ago) link

IDK, it's such a different feeling album to me, almost hard to compare

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2016 05:09 (four years ago) link

This is my 2nd favorite album ever.

billstevejim, Friday, 15 January 2016 06:32 (four years ago) link

Voodoo is my 2nd fav ever

Spottie, Friday, 15 January 2016 06:43 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

<3

j., Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:54 (three years ago) link

yup

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:05 (three years ago) link

Clicked on this hoping that Trump spurred him to finish his next album.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2017 18:09 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

Chris Dave, the drummer on this album, has made an album of his own which will be out on Blue Note next month.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 8 December 2017 17:05 (two years ago) link

hmmm, i know Questlove, james gadson, and chris dave all played on Black Messiah, but i've never seen a track by track breakdown on who plays on what - until now.

https://storify.com/amaah/black-messiah-liner-notes

ain’t that easy - james gadson
1000 deaths - questlove
the charade - questlove
sugah daddy - gadson
really love - started with questlove, ended with gadson
back to the future, pt 1 - questlove
till it’s done (tutu) - unclear?
prayer - chris dave
betray my heart - questlove
the door - d’angelo
back to the future (pt 2) - questlove
another life - questlove

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 December 2017 17:22 (two years ago) link

Tutu is unquestionably Questlove on drums.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:09 (two years ago) link

Among other things (just the sound, and the press roll at the beginning), I think of that three note fill (that starts on the 4 and has a flam at the beginning) as one of his signature licks.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 8 December 2017 18:11 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

has a new song on the RDR2 soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obJuKmMjFG4

Number None, Monday, 29 October 2018 11:43 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://images.ctfassets.net/5jh3ceokw2vz/3QfGPJD8zMvifV37RhuOne/b97ad8c2ab17e28986cc5a192306c2c6/0Z0A9862.jpg?w=1600

https://wepresent.wetransfer.com/story/dangelo-the-devils-pie/

^^ Great photographs and story about Carine Bijlsma's documentary about D'Angelo.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 11:08 (eight months ago) link

The doc is great!

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 11:56 (eight months ago) link

Is there any way to watch this online yet?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 13:21 (eight months ago) link

You might need a VPN, but it's here:

https://www.2doc.nl/documentaires/series/3doc/2019/devils-pie-dangelo.html

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 13:58 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

Listening for the first time since probably 2016 and i'm not sure why i haven't been pumping this one a month minimum

billstevejim, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 16:21 (four months ago) link

you are hereby ordered to pump it 4x month for the following year to make up for your mistake

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 2 June 2020 16:32 (four months ago) link

Be nice if The Charade weren't always so timely and poignant

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 17:48 (four months ago) link

it's been awhile for me too

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 2 June 2020 22:12 (four months ago) link

Just listened to this album a few times the other week, it has definitely continued to justify its immediate hype.

four months pass...

Sooo did any intrepid slskrs ever happen on a rip of that 'slingbaum' track with D & Badu?

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 15:52 (one week ago) link

His best album. Thank God hes gotten better album by album. Even if they do take a while.

candyman, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:51 (one week ago) link

Agreed. As amazing as Voodoo is, this one is where it's at imo.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:53 (one week ago) link

Not sure why it took so long for "Another Life" to click in for me but ... man ... it really is among the best things he's ever done.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:55 (one week ago) link

There's an interview with Ben Kane in the newest Tape Op, he says that he worked on Black Messiah for a decade, just hoping it would come out at some point. And now that they're back in that process, so working on new music that maybe will be released someday.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:05 (one week ago) link

i think maybe the most unbelievable "moment" in music that year is from the introduction to The Charade, from 18 to about 26 seconds in, as the vocals rev up like a train and the drums fading in as well. it's a feat of wizardry to pull it off as smoothly as he does. if you're not paying attention, you don't even notice how it's rolls up into the verse. just beautiful

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:53 (one week ago) link

typo city but great song A+

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 20:54 (one week ago) link

‘1000 Deaths’ slays me...Eddie Hazel soundtracking a Vietnam vets final bad trip...awesome!!!

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:07 (one week ago) link

"the charade" is a miracle of a song, agreed

covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:27 (one week ago) link

Another life is sublime,beautiful,tragic, just one of his all time best songs. Incredible. Esp that fractured vocal. Black messiah makes a lot if brown sugar sound tentative, and voodoo sound over ambitious, puffed up, and like he was trying on soneone else's clothes on. This album is when he really started showing himself.

candyman, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 21:58 (one week ago) link

I don't care about 2020 opinions, I care about hearing this viny-only vanity project by some Italian keyboardist with D'Angelo, Erykah Badu, and Chris Dave.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:36 (one week ago) link

it'll show up eventually

covidiot wind, blowin every time you lift your mask (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 22:54 (one week ago) link

I'm surprised it hasn't already!

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/who-the-hell-is-slingbaum-dangelo-fka-twigs-erykah-badu

Ok, apparently he's not Italian. But almost certainly independently wealthy.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:01 (one week ago) link

all the descriptions of it sounded terrible tbh

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:15 (one week ago) link

the slingbaum album is indeed easy to find on soulseek fyi

ufo, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 23:28 (one week ago) link

xp Karl--heck yeah, great point: haven't listened to it in a while, but yeah, the way the drum machine and synth and brief bass harmonics and guitar and vox all 'wake up' in those 25 seconds is so seemingly effortlessly exciting

And also hard agree that, while having admitted it's been a minute, Black Messiah has likewise def become my go-to D in recent years

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Thursday, 15 October 2020 02:17 (one week ago) link

I could barely even tell D was on that Slingbaum track. I think I remember one song seemed okay

bunny slopes, Thursday, 15 October 2020 03:00 (one week ago) link

Another Life does this wonderful thing where it keeps switching from tentative to confident, and has these chords that are like an unsure ascent, and the infinite D'Angelos harmonise in the most bewitching and unexpected ways. It really sends me.

Walter Draggedman (stevie), Thursday, 15 October 2020 13:01 (one week ago) link


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