The National - Trouble Will Find Me

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i can't get my head around it
i keep feeling smaller'n'smaller

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

Not a big fan but I love Pink Rabbits. Such a gorgeous and sad song.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

like the cocktail, you can only order it monthly

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link

Love the Nationals. Really do. But hell is a party with them as the only soundtrack.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link

that's why they're hangover music. the musical echo of a long headache.

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 04:00 (seven years ago) link

good fall music

, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

http://www.danshort.com/pl/b/Paradise0001.jpg

all olly murs' lemurs (ledge), Tuesday, 6 September 2016 12:39 (seven years ago) link

This might be my favorite indie-rock album of the last five years. I still listen to it all the time and I'm always floored by its wisdom and wit and replayability.

Evan R, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

the chord changes in Pink Rabbits are so great, and i love the unusual structure of the song. great lyrics, too. "I was a white girl in a crowd of white girls in the park"

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

If anything I think the band's more-of-the-same reputation has lead people to underrate this record, which is at the very least gorgeous and powerful and moving and funny.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

I heard this album in full a couple of times, and right now I'm struggling to remember anything about it, bar the fact it didn't leave enough of an impression while I was listening to it to warrant sticking with it. A boring record, in other words. 2013 is my favourite year of the decade for music so far, too.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link

There is no such thing as boring music, just boring people.

I kid. If you can't remember it, give it another listen!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

Nah, I'll pass. There's so much music out there and so little time, that I think it's better to check out something you haven't heard that you may like instead of revisiting something that you know didn't make any kind of great impression to begin with... and of course, there is such a thing as boring music.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

gave it 2 spins yesterday since thread was bumped and this album r00lz, very mature, well produced, good songs

sad to find out is in fact boring, must be a heavy reality distortion field around my stereo

niels, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link

very mature, well produced, good songs

Yeah but what else does it have going for it, zzzzzz.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 17:55 (seven years ago) link

unique song structures and dope drumming keep it from being boring imo

dc, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, honestly, even if someone hated the National, he's such a great drummer I can't imagine him not holding your attention. But hey, maybe some people think drums are boring.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

"sea of love" has the most lopsided groove and they sorta make it rock anyway

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link

also the "what did harvard teach you?" line is super funny

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

lotsa funny lines on this. i like "god loves everybody / don't remind me"

dc, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link

I don't even remember any of the drumming. What I do remember is morose American indie rock.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

feel like his drumming was a bit subdued on High Violet, maybe the new style didn't leave much room for all his variations, so I was happy to find him let more loose on this - not like Alligator, but a v good match for their new direction

niels, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

lol i remember when i first heard the drum intro to "bloodbuzz ohio" and was like "oh i get this band now"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link

i don't think the "graceless" video was ever posted in here but it's sort of the ultimate national video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpz_gUyImhw

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

i took the medicine then i went missing

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

i mean, the national imo are a really interesting band bc from a distance they do embody everything that's boring and morose about modern american indie rock but in terms of composition and interplay they're one of the tightest bands around and they are always pushing at their own boundaries and their lyrics are super funny but also very sharp and can do great suggestive things in the space of a couplet, and basically none of these things are immediately accessible from the surface

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:36 (seven years ago) link

otm

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

yup^^

like, I'm sure Turrican is a perfectly nice person and I'm not interested in starting a fight but this is so, so dumb:

I don't even remember any of the drumming. What I do remember is morose American indie rock.

― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:22 AM (thirty-six minutes ago)

alpine static, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link

oops, forgot to block quote

alpine static, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link

like if you come to me and say "check out this music that's not normally up your alley, the guitar playing is incredible" and I come back and say "i didn't notice the guitar playing, what I did notice is the music isn't really my thing" i think it'll be time to fold up shop

alpine static, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

For what it's worth, I don't recall anyone saying to me, three years ago, "Check out the new National album. Amazing drumming."

If they had, and I'm basing this on what little I actually remember about hearing this record and also bear in mind I did listen to this album in full more than once, I'd return the favour by asking 'em to check out a Rush record.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

there is one kind of amazing drumming and its avatar is neil peart

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

bookmarked

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link

seriously bryan devendorf is incredible turrican i'm sorry but obv u lack two ears and a heart

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link

also god forbid an album should be a grower

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link

it's OK to dislike morose American indie rock, but that doesn't make this a boring record or The National a bad band, that's all.

alpine static, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

This band sucks so much it's breathtaking

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

love that turrican's response to the idea that this band has a great drummer was to bump a bunch of prog and hard rock threads with the phrase "amazing drumming"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

huh "i should live in salt" is in 9/8, wild

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

Turrican's schtick is boring as fuck.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

It's rather fitting that a hardcore fan of a band so terminally dull as Embrace should be in this thread, then.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

Having irritated a dozen posters in the last month, Turrican has become the morose indie band of ILM.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

If people are getting wound up that I find their favourite band/artist/album unmemorable and/or crap, that's not my problem.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link

Saying the National suck because the drumming isn't as good as Neil Peart or Alan White's is like saying New Order suck because Sumner doesn't play guitar as well as Richard Thompson.

(as this thread shows I'm no National fan either)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

we get it, amazing drumming is about insane fills and pyrotechnics

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

Saying the National suck because the drumming isn't as good as Neil Peart or Alan White's

Except I didn't once say these exact words. Good try, though.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

xp and xylosynths

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

they had, and I'm basing this on what little I actually remember about hearing this record and also bear in mind I did listen to this album in full more than once, I'd return the favour by asking 'em to check out a Rush record.

― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican),

This is no different. Keep slithering away though.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

In fact, I don't recall saying that The National suck, either. I said that I listened to their album, more than once, and found it extremely unmemorable. People brought up the drumming, and I mentioned that nothing even stuck out on that front and that what I do remember was listening to a morose American indie rock record. Cue wahhh.

love that turrican's response to the idea that this band has a great drummer was to bump a bunch of prog and hard rock threads with the phrase "amazing drumming"

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:11 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Did it not occur to you that I'm actually talking about music that I've been listening to recently? The fact that those bands have legitimately amazing drummers is mere coincidence.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link

This is no different. Keep slithering away though.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:55 PM (nineteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's completely different. You're implying that I think The National suck because of the drumming, which is something I never once said. What I did say is from what little I remember about the record, that if someone asked me to check the record out for its drumming, then I likely wouldn't have much to say about it. That Neil Peart is a world renowned world class drummer, though, is without dispute.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link


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