The National - Trouble Will Find Me

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Trouble Will Find Me is the sixth album by Brooklyn-based indie rock band The National, to be released on May 20, 2013 in Europe and May 21 in North America via 4AD records. The album was self produced with mixing by Peter Katis, who worked on their previous albums High Violet, Alligator, and Boxer at Clubhouse studio in Rhinebeck, NY. The album will be released digitally, on CD, 180gm vinyl, and in a limited edition deluxe boxed vinyl set.

The tracklisting for Trouble Will Find Me is below:

1. I Should Live in Salt
2. Demons
3. Don't Swallow the Cap
4. Fireproof
5. Sea of Love
6. Heavenfaced
7. This is the Last Time
8. Graceless
9. Slipped
10. I Need My Girl
11. Humiliation
12. Pink Rabbits
13. Hard to Find

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:57 (six years ago) link

hope this is good, they have been away long enough.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:59 (six years ago) link

what is it with aging nyc indie bands and terrible cover art this year

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 03:08 (six years ago) link

cannot get over how terrible this album cover is

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:07 (six years ago) link

I have an ominous feeling about this one.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:29 (six years ago) link

Are any of these songs on Youtube in live format anywhere?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:00 (six years ago) link

lol I was just about to comment that I love the cover art, but it's already been slammed twice.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:02 (six years ago) link

High Violet progressively gave me that feeling where your favorite band releases a dud that makes you re-consider all their previous stuff

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:21 (six years ago) link

I overlooked 'High Violet' at first. I think I was a bit put off by the hype and the overwhelming championing from the Q/Mojo crowd. Revisited it recently and it’s as good as ‘Boxer’ for sure. ‘Alligator’ will always have a special place in my heart. Going to try and be a little less prejudiced towards the new one.

Internet Alan, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:27 (six years ago) link

Boxer for me was like a younger more urban Bad Seeds record, while High Violet seemed like a somewhat edgier Coldplay album.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:15 (six years ago) link

she's looking at you

Bee OK, Friday, 5 April 2013 03:13 (six years ago) link

I quite enjoyed High Violet and I kinda dig the cover. So ha.

errant flynn, Friday, 5 April 2013 03:28 (six years ago) link

And is Don't Swallow the Cap about ShRoOmZ?

errant flynn, Friday, 5 April 2013 03:29 (six years ago) link

European dates:

31 Oct Helsinki, Ice Hall
2 Nov Copenhagen, Forum
4 Nov Berlin, Max Schmelling Halle
5 Nov Dusseldorf, Mitsubishi Electric Hallen
6 Nov Luxembourg, Rockhal
7 Nov Amsterdam, Heineken Music Hall
9 Nov Belfast, Odyssey Arena
10 Nov Dublin, O2 Arena
11 Nov Manchester, O2 Apollo
13 Nov London, Alexandra Palace
18 Nov Paris, Le Zenith
20 Nov Madrid, Palacio Vistalegre
21 Nov Lisbon, Pavilhao Atlantico

Pre Sale - Tuesday 9th
General - Thurs 11th [although site says 13th]

More info

http://www.americanmary.com/tour.php

groovypanda, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:45 (six years ago) link

In terms of design, the album art is fine, but distorted or severed faces are just viscerally disgusting.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:21 (six years ago) link

lol I was just about to comment that I love the cover art, but it's already been slammed twice.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:02 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this looks pretty cool imo. Would be better without the copy, especially the widow. Why would the designer do that?

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 5 April 2013 15:15 (six years ago) link

So here's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N527oBKIPMc

Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 April 2013 13:32 (six years ago) link

it's generous and easy, which aren't qualities i would typically use to describe a national song. looking forward to hearing the rest of the album.

phantompenguin, Monday, 8 April 2013 13:48 (six years ago) link

it probably makes them feel better that it's in 7 at least

shit tie (Jordan), Monday, 8 April 2013 14:03 (six years ago) link

this song makes me look forward to hearing the album, which is a good way to feel after adoring Alligator/Boxer and being pretty disappointed by HV. should probably revisit HV, tho

alpine static, Monday, 8 April 2013 18:28 (six years ago) link

Six new songs here:

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/04/watch-the-national-perform-six-new-songs/

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 11:47 (six years ago) link

"Demons" is good, will wait to hear the rest.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:06 (six years ago) link

There's a fine line between knowing your strengths as a band and just doing the same thing over and over and over. I think The National used to practice the former and are now (and have been for a minute) victims of the latter.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 April 2013 22:30 (six years ago) link

Hm. So they're a minor band? ain't nuthin wrong with it

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 April 2013 22:31 (six years ago) link

There was a definite progression on the first three records, but I feel like beginning with Boxer they kind of found a sweet* spot and haven't left it since 2007.

(*Some people love it and that's cool. Bores me, though.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 April 2013 22:35 (six years ago) link

these two songs have had more melody/hooks than the ones on high violet, i'm hopeful

乒乓, Friday, 12 April 2013 01:24 (six years ago) link

i agree with you JF but in the same way that the new daft punk snippets sound like a retread of 'harder better' i'm all for this being a retread of boxer

乒乓, Friday, 12 April 2013 01:24 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIWmRbHDhGw

h/t brad

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:41 (six years ago) link

oh man i was just about to update this thread

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:41 (six years ago) link

so yeah i'm not one of the people who hates high violet and like alligator and boxer hit sweet melancholic spots that basically no other indie rock does for me; i was kind of bored by "demons" but "sea of love" is great

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:42 (six years ago) link

and you know this is a band who have a really specific groove, who know how to play with each other, and they have a great drummer, and i am really easily thrilled by unusual time signatures so i am basically prepared to love this album

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:45 (six years ago) link

Hey, whatdoyaknow...that one's REALLY good.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:46 (six years ago) link

hey joe sorry i hurt you but
they say, love is a virtue
don't they?

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:56 (six years ago) link

Graceless and the one with salt in the title are the standouts. This sticks to their tried and true.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:59 (six years ago) link

so yeah i'm not one of the people who hates high violet and like alligator and boxer hit sweet melancholic spots that basically no other indie rock does for me; i was kind of bored by "demons" but "sea of love" is great

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:42 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

heh i love alligator / boxer and didn't cotton to high violet; the national are at their best for me when they construct their songs around two, three, really strong hooks; basically all of alligator is like that, parts of boxer. for these new songs, really seems they've found their ear for melody again, and have tightened up the song structures; nothing as meandering and rambling as high violet, i really only fuck with bloodbuzz ohio off that one

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:02 (six years ago) link

I love "England," though -- it sounds like John Cale in orchestral mode.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:05 (six years ago) link

Vanderlyle! Stuffed with melody and hooks.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:37 (six years ago) link

in the wrong mood I want to throttle these guys

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:44 (six years ago) link

'throttle' eh

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:46 (six years ago) link

Vanderlyle Crybaby Cry is awesome, I don't really get how ppl can love Alligator and Boxer and hate HV... It's not like it was that much of a departure. Anyway, I hope this one is different somehow because they've mined their goth springsteen with expressionistic lyrics schtick for about as much as its worth, which was a lot (3 classic albums.) i hope this is a disco record in the mode of lcd soundsystem, or something. Their "Some Girls." hate the cover.

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:56 (six years ago) link

If a bunch of tracks already leaked and what i said makes no sense, sorry

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:57 (six years ago) link

a bunch of tracks have been released and they essentially mine the same sound but they're all more complicated

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:59 (six years ago) link

And still no mention of my favorite, 'Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers'. Guess you had to be there? :)

Fwiw I liked High Violet a lot, too. I am refraining from listening to all these songs dripping out though, I am holding out for the album so I can take it in in one go, which seems to be how I enjoy the National the most.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:32 (six years ago) link

could never get into SSFDL much beyond "Lucky You" which is one of their best songs

Number None, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:46 (six years ago) link

That is a beautiful song, yes

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:48 (six years ago) link

agree, that's a good one. my favorite song by them is "slow show" off boxer. i think all their album covers have been borderline disasters though, with this one being the worst. why can't they find a visual aesthetic that fits with their highly developed, distinctive sound?

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 21:51 (six years ago) link

The text element on the cover of Alligator is awesome fuiud

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:05 (six years ago) link

haha i really love this album cover, and i liked all the high violent variations. v pretty photo on boxer too? idk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:07 (six years ago) link

i've liked all of them except high violet

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:08 (six years ago) link

i think this might be the best National album

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:23 (three months ago) link

as long as it's better than the last one.

The Pingularity (ledge), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:31 (three months ago) link

it's in many ways a continuation of the last one but lacks a moodbreaker like "turtleneck"

unfortunately there's not much more in the way of upbeat art-rockers like "You Had Your Soul With You" and the moody midtempo tracks they've always preferred still dominate

this is true but sometimes the intricate arrangements trick you into thinking they are not moody midtempo tracks cf. "the pull of you"

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:34 (three months ago) link

holy shit "Not in Kansas": a monologue about Berninger's reminiscing about R.E.M.'s "Begin the Begin."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:37 (three months ago) link

the guest vocalists actually make this thing feel less long than it is

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:38 (three months ago) link

I do regret that they didn't write a song for "Her Father in the Pool."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:39 (three months ago) link

xps yeah the arrangements are what i like the most about this album, it's probably not their strongest collection of songs but the arrangements are all their best and most interesting they've ever been

"turtleneck" was the worst thing about sleep well beast, completely out of place and also just not very good

the guest vocalists are all very welcome and provide a nice foil for berninger, but none of them have quite the same impact as when gail ann dorsey first comes in on the bridge of "you had your soul with you"

i am probably going to attempt to edit this and sleep well beast down to a single album to finally make a national album that i love the whole way through

ufo, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:43 (three months ago) link

sleep well beast is a great record imo, i was disappointed at the time with how conservative at least half of it feels, and "turtleneck" sucks, but "empire line" -> "i'll still destroy you" -> "guilty party" is maybe my favorite sequence on any national record, and the new one is kind of like that sequence as a whole album

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 15:31 (three months ago) link

i revisited sleep well beast today and that was the sequence that really stood out to me so i'm really glad they went further in that direction this time. "the system only dreams in total darkness" is one of their absolute bests and "dark side of the gym" is a really lovely melody too. the rest of the album is just fine except "turtleneck" yeah, and the title track feels like a dry run for some of the more abstract parts of the new album but those highs are all wonderful.

ufo, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 15:47 (three months ago) link

i'll stan for carin at the liquor store

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 15:52 (three months ago) link

oof, i love the orchestration on this but the way they've done the vocals (and, frankly, the melodies) makes it feel like a second-rate attempt at what Young Galaxy do so well

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 16:10 (three months ago) link

wait, young galaxy?

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 18:49 (three months ago) link

"the pull of you" is absolutely perfect

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 18:52 (three months ago) link

first testament was really great
the sequel was incredible
like the godfathers or the first two strokes
every document's indelible

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 19:34 (three months ago) link

"not in kansas" -> "so far so fast" are like the two best national songs ever, right in a row

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 19:41 (three months ago) link

and "oblivions" is the kind of song only they could write

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:31 (three months ago) link

There's some lovely stuff on this record. I don't know if it is their best album, but on first listen there is nothing that stands out as a reason why it couldn't be.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:23 (three months ago) link

Man, "Not In Kansas." It's been ... I don't know how long since I heard a song that made me want to focus on and figure out its lyrics so badly.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:30 (three months ago) link

when "Rylan starts, I sing, "Got my mind SET. ON. YOU."

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:37 (three months ago) link

i like the "flowers of guatamala" reference ("the flowers cover over everything") a couple of verses after "i'm listening to r.e.m. again"

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:45 (three months ago) link

The contemporary classical bent of whichever one of the brothers is into that stuff really pays off on this album's arrangements.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 21:50 (three months ago) link

this is so long and so unified in its approach that I'm having a hard time parsing individual songs as opposed to a constantly alternating set of peaks and valleys. which I guess for some will be sort of an apotheosis of Their Thing but I'm not really finding any points of entry beyond a few standout ideas here and there. "You Had Your Soul With You" had me hoping this wouldn't be the case. (as always I reserve the right to change my mind later lol)

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:09 (three months ago) link

like, there are a ton of sonic ideas here but all of them are incorporated into every single track, y'know? relax!!

Simon H., Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:10 (three months ago) link

Brad, you are getting me very excited about this new album. it's not on Spotify until Friday however.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 02:57 (three months ago) link

They're the most intricately boring band I've ever heard.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:05 (three months ago) link

"you had your soul with you" is absolutely their best track ever

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 03:09 (three months ago) link

simon i have a feeling you’ll like this the more you spend time with it. it wasn’t billed as a double album but it works like one: the songs talk to each other, and it works itself into weird subspaces. oddly i think watching the movie is a way in too, it enriches specific lyrics

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:07 (three months ago) link

i will say the album is more ballad-forward than i expected or hoped but i’ve already adjusted

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:08 (three months ago) link

yeah same

the only real dud for me is Rylan which i know is apparently a fan favourite because it's been floating around for 8 years or something but it's still them at their most middle-of-the-road even though the arrangement is a lot better than it would have been a decade ago

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:49 (three months ago) link

I think the album is a bundle of good contradictions. It's not really a double album but feels like one, it's ballad heavy but not necessarily chill, it's got some of Matt's best lyrics and singing but he often takes a back seat to other singers and singing, it's got some pretty jarring experimental elements but it's totally MOR. And so on.

Oh, and needless to say, the drumming is incredible.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 11:52 (three months ago) link

i love every lyric and sound in "quiet light"

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:14 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S37thEwlWPA

good performance of "you had your soul with you", with string section and second drummer (no gail ann dorsey though)

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:17 (three months ago) link

learning how not to cry every time there's another sad unbearable morning
but sometimes there's nothing i can do
i can't help it

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:17 (three months ago) link

the drumming on "quiet light" is brilliant, bryan devendorf seems to get better with every album somehow

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:23 (three months ago) link

So these guys are definitely going all-in on everything - strings, singers, horns, etc. - for this tour?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:49 (three months ago) link

they've had a horn section forever but idk whether the strings etc. are sticking around for the tour or are only around for the run of album/film premiere dates they've been doing over the last month

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 12:54 (three months ago) link

wow i REALLY love this album

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 23:09 (three months ago) link

https://www.nme.com/news/national-rockier-songs-leftover-may-get-freezer-2488317

apparently they've got a bunch of rockier material left over from the Sleep Well Beast sessions that didn't make this album either since it didn't fit the mood of the film etc. so i hope that'll be more "the system only dreams"/"you had your soul with you" than "turtleneck" whenever it sees the light of day

ufo, Thursday, 16 May 2019 05:41 (three months ago) link

The contemporary classical bent of whichever one of the brothers is into that stuff really pays off on this album's arrangements.

That is Bryce! His own chamber music is def worth checking out

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 16 May 2019 12:07 (three months ago) link

it's the way that you're going to stop needing to tell me you want me as much as i want you to

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 15:56 (three months ago) link

Their best album.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:21 (three months ago) link

yep

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:22 (three months ago) link

I've never top tenned one of their albums before.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:24 (three months ago) link

me neither, and it usually takes me a while to figure out how i feel about them, cf. the album this thread is named after

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 16:25 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbXnnn8z1tE

i get why people would dismiss "rylan," feels like it's borrowed most of its rumble from "apartment story" to create the most national national song ever, but... it's so catchy

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:47 (three months ago) link

I just thought of perfect "feat. female guest singer" example that kind of pulls off what this album does: "My Curse," by fellow (can it be a coincidence?) Cincinnati sons Afghan Whigs.

Also, maybe "You're Still Standing There" by Steve Earle, when previously more or less AWOL Lucinda Williams suddenly pops up.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 May 2019 15:13 (three months ago) link

I didn't realize that the album was made in such close collaboration with Mike Mills, who even produced. Has he produced anything else?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 May 2019 15:17 (three months ago) link

Marcy Mays on "My Curse" feels to me like much more direct and successful attempt at a counterpoint/perspective change than anything here.

Simon H., Friday, 17 May 2019 15:19 (three months ago) link

anyway I can already tell this is going to be yet another one of those albums where I stick to listening to my own resequence/edit and get a lot more out of it that way

Simon H., Friday, 17 May 2019 15:21 (three months ago) link


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