The National - Trouble Will Find Me

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Trouble Will Find Me is the sixth album by Brooklyn-based indie rock band The National, to be released on May 20, 2013 in Europe and May 21 in North America via 4AD records. The album was self produced with mixing by Peter Katis, who worked on their previous albums High Violet, Alligator, and Boxer at Clubhouse studio in Rhinebeck, NY. The album will be released digitally, on CD, 180gm vinyl, and in a limited edition deluxe boxed vinyl set.

The tracklisting for Trouble Will Find Me is below:

1. I Should Live in Salt
2. Demons
3. Don't Swallow the Cap
4. Fireproof
5. Sea of Love
6. Heavenfaced
7. This is the Last Time
8. Graceless
9. Slipped
10. I Need My Girl
11. Humiliation
12. Pink Rabbits
13. Hard to Find

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:57 (four years ago) Permalink

hope this is good, they have been away long enough.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:59 (four years ago) Permalink

what is it with aging nyc indie bands and terrible cover art this year

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 03:08 (four years ago) Permalink

cannot get over how terrible this album cover is

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:07 (four years ago) Permalink

I have an ominous feeling about this one.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Are any of these songs on Youtube in live format anywhere?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:00 (four years ago) Permalink

lol I was just about to comment that I love the cover art, but it's already been slammed twice.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:02 (four years ago) Permalink

High Violet progressively gave me that feeling where your favorite band releases a dud that makes you re-consider all their previous stuff

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:21 (four years ago) Permalink

I overlooked 'High Violet' at first. I think I was a bit put off by the hype and the overwhelming championing from the Q/Mojo crowd. Revisited it recently and it’s as good as ‘Boxer’ for sure. ‘Alligator’ will always have a special place in my heart. Going to try and be a little less prejudiced towards the new one.

Internet Alan, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Boxer for me was like a younger more urban Bad Seeds record, while High Violet seemed like a somewhat edgier Coldplay album.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:15 (four years ago) Permalink

she's looking at you

Bee OK, Friday, 5 April 2013 03:13 (four years ago) Permalink

I quite enjoyed High Violet and I kinda dig the cover. So ha.

errant flynn, Friday, 5 April 2013 03:28 (four years ago) Permalink

And is Don't Swallow the Cap about ShRoOmZ?

errant flynn, Friday, 5 April 2013 03:29 (four years ago) Permalink

European dates:

31 Oct Helsinki, Ice Hall
2 Nov Copenhagen, Forum
4 Nov Berlin, Max Schmelling Halle
5 Nov Dusseldorf, Mitsubishi Electric Hallen
6 Nov Luxembourg, Rockhal
7 Nov Amsterdam, Heineken Music Hall
9 Nov Belfast, Odyssey Arena
10 Nov Dublin, O2 Arena
11 Nov Manchester, O2 Apollo
13 Nov London, Alexandra Palace
18 Nov Paris, Le Zenith
20 Nov Madrid, Palacio Vistalegre
21 Nov Lisbon, Pavilhao Atlantico

Pre Sale - Tuesday 9th
General - Thurs 11th [although site says 13th]

More info

http://www.americanmary.com/tour.php

groovypanda, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:45 (four years ago) Permalink

In terms of design, the album art is fine, but distorted or severed faces are just viscerally disgusting.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:21 (four years ago) Permalink

lol I was just about to comment that I love the cover art, but it's already been slammed twice.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:02 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah this looks pretty cool imo. Would be better without the copy, especially the widow. Why would the designer do that?

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 5 April 2013 15:15 (four years ago) Permalink

So here's this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N527oBKIPMc

Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 April 2013 13:32 (four years ago) Permalink

it's generous and easy, which aren't qualities i would typically use to describe a national song. looking forward to hearing the rest of the album.

phantompenguin, Monday, 8 April 2013 13:48 (four years ago) Permalink

it probably makes them feel better that it's in 7 at least

shit tie (Jordan), Monday, 8 April 2013 14:03 (four years ago) Permalink

this song makes me look forward to hearing the album, which is a good way to feel after adoring Alligator/Boxer and being pretty disappointed by HV. should probably revisit HV, tho

alpine static, Monday, 8 April 2013 18:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Six new songs here:

http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/04/watch-the-national-perform-six-new-songs/

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 11:47 (four years ago) Permalink

"Demons" is good, will wait to hear the rest.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:06 (four years ago) Permalink

There's a fine line between knowing your strengths as a band and just doing the same thing over and over and over. I think The National used to practice the former and are now (and have been for a minute) victims of the latter.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 April 2013 22:30 (four years ago) Permalink

Hm. So they're a minor band? ain't nuthin wrong with it

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 April 2013 22:31 (four years ago) Permalink

There was a definite progression on the first three records, but I feel like beginning with Boxer they kind of found a sweet* spot and haven't left it since 2007.

(*Some people love it and that's cool. Bores me, though.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 11 April 2013 22:35 (four years ago) Permalink

these two songs have had more melody/hooks than the ones on high violet, i'm hopeful

乒乓, Friday, 12 April 2013 01:24 (four years ago) Permalink

i agree with you JF but in the same way that the new daft punk snippets sound like a retread of 'harder better' i'm all for this being a retread of boxer

乒乓, Friday, 12 April 2013 01:24 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIWmRbHDhGw

h/t brad

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:41 (four years ago) Permalink

oh man i was just about to update this thread

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:41 (four years ago) Permalink

so yeah i'm not one of the people who hates high violet and like alligator and boxer hit sweet melancholic spots that basically no other indie rock does for me; i was kind of bored by "demons" but "sea of love" is great

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:42 (four years ago) Permalink

and you know this is a band who have a really specific groove, who know how to play with each other, and they have a great drummer, and i am really easily thrilled by unusual time signatures so i am basically prepared to love this album

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:45 (four years ago) Permalink

Hey, whatdoyaknow...that one's REALLY good.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:46 (four years ago) Permalink

hey joe sorry i hurt you but
they say, love is a virtue
don't they?

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:56 (four years ago) Permalink

Graceless and the one with salt in the title are the standouts. This sticks to their tried and true.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 16:59 (four years ago) Permalink

so yeah i'm not one of the people who hates high violet and like alligator and boxer hit sweet melancholic spots that basically no other indie rock does for me; i was kind of bored by "demons" but "sea of love" is great

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, May 8, 2013 12:42 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

heh i love alligator / boxer and didn't cotton to high violet; the national are at their best for me when they construct their songs around two, three, really strong hooks; basically all of alligator is like that, parts of boxer. for these new songs, really seems they've found their ear for melody again, and have tightened up the song structures; nothing as meandering and rambling as high violet, i really only fuck with bloodbuzz ohio off that one

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:02 (four years ago) Permalink

I love "England," though -- it sounds like John Cale in orchestral mode.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:05 (four years ago) Permalink

Vanderlyle! Stuffed with melody and hooks.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:37 (four years ago) Permalink

in the wrong mood I want to throttle these guys

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:44 (four years ago) Permalink

'throttle' eh

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:46 (four years ago) Permalink

Vanderlyle Crybaby Cry is awesome, I don't really get how ppl can love Alligator and Boxer and hate HV... It's not like it was that much of a departure. Anyway, I hope this one is different somehow because they've mined their goth springsteen with expressionistic lyrics schtick for about as much as its worth, which was a lot (3 classic albums.) i hope this is a disco record in the mode of lcd soundsystem, or something. Their "Some Girls." hate the cover.

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:56 (four years ago) Permalink

If a bunch of tracks already leaked and what i said makes no sense, sorry

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:57 (four years ago) Permalink

a bunch of tracks have been released and they essentially mine the same sound but they're all more complicated

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 17:59 (four years ago) Permalink

And still no mention of my favorite, 'Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers'. Guess you had to be there? :)

Fwiw I liked High Violet a lot, too. I am refraining from listening to all these songs dripping out though, I am holding out for the album so I can take it in in one go, which seems to be how I enjoy the National the most.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:32 (four years ago) Permalink

could never get into SSFDL much beyond "Lucky You" which is one of their best songs

Number None, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:46 (four years ago) Permalink

That is a beautiful song, yes

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:48 (four years ago) Permalink

agree, that's a good one. my favorite song by them is "slow show" off boxer. i think all their album covers have been borderline disasters though, with this one being the worst. why can't they find a visual aesthetic that fits with their highly developed, distinctive sound?

Treeship, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 21:51 (four years ago) Permalink

The text element on the cover of Alligator is awesome fuiud

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:05 (four years ago) Permalink

haha i really love this album cover, and i liked all the high violent variations. v pretty photo on boxer too? idk

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:07 (four years ago) Permalink

i've liked all of them except high violet

乒乓, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:08 (four years ago) Permalink

bookmarked

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:35 (ten months ago) Permalink

seriously bryan devendorf is incredible turrican i'm sorry but obv u lack two ears and a heart

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

also god forbid an album should be a grower

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

it's OK to dislike morose American indie rock, but that doesn't make this a boring record or The National a bad band, that's all.

alpine static, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 19:48 (ten months ago) Permalink

This band sucks so much it's breathtaking

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 20:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

love that turrican's response to the idea that this band has a great drummer was to bump a bunch of prog and hard rock threads with the phrase "amazing drumming"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

huh "i should live in salt" is in 9/8, wild

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:15 (ten months ago) Permalink

Turrican's schtick is boring as fuck.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:29 (ten months ago) Permalink

It's rather fitting that a hardcore fan of a band so terminally dull as Embrace should be in this thread, then.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

Having irritated a dozen posters in the last month, Turrican has become the morose indie band of ILM.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:38 (ten months ago) Permalink

If people are getting wound up that I find their favourite band/artist/album unmemorable and/or crap, that's not my problem.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:44 (ten months ago) Permalink

Saying the National suck because the drumming isn't as good as Neil Peart or Alan White's is like saying New Order suck because Sumner doesn't play guitar as well as Richard Thompson.

(as this thread shows I'm no National fan either)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:48 (ten months ago) Permalink

we get it, amazing drumming is about insane fills and pyrotechnics

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:49 (ten months ago) Permalink

Saying the National suck because the drumming isn't as good as Neil Peart or Alan White's

Except I didn't once say these exact words. Good try, though.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:50 (ten months ago) Permalink

xp and xylosynths

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:54 (ten months ago) Permalink

they had, and I'm basing this on what little I actually remember about hearing this record and also bear in mind I did listen to this album in full more than once, I'd return the favour by asking 'em to check out a Rush record.

― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican),

This is no different. Keep slithering away though.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:55 (ten months ago) Permalink

In fact, I don't recall saying that The National suck, either. I said that I listened to their album, more than once, and found it extremely unmemorable. People brought up the drumming, and I mentioned that nothing even stuck out on that front and that what I do remember was listening to a morose American indie rock record. Cue wahhh.

love that turrican's response to the idea that this band has a great drummer was to bump a bunch of prog and hard rock threads with the phrase "amazing drumming"

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:11 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Did it not occur to you that I'm actually talking about music that I've been listening to recently? The fact that those bands have legitimately amazing drummers is mere coincidence.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 21:56 (ten months ago) Permalink

This is no different. Keep slithering away though.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:55 PM (nineteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's completely different. You're implying that I think The National suck because of the drumming, which is something I never once said. What I did say is from what little I remember about the record, that if someone asked me to check the record out for its drumming, then I likely wouldn't have much to say about it. That Neil Peart is a world renowned world class drummer, though, is without dispute.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:00 (ten months ago) Permalink

I'm just saying that if someone asked me to check the record out for cigar-lighting cgi dragons on jumbotrons, then I likely wouldn't have much to say about it. Neil Peart is a world renowned receptacle for cigars lit by cigar-lighting cgi dragons on jumbotrons.

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:07 (ten months ago) Permalink

you definitely don't have much to say about the drumming of a record that you don't really remember anything about from three years ago

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

I have to say, it is most curious how it's always the fans of morose indie rock that get the most butthurt when people imply the artist/album is unmemorable or dull. Radiohead, The National... there should be a name for this condition, tbh.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:17 (ten months ago) Permalink

there are so, so many much more generic / less distinctive bands to single out for derision

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

i for one support turrican in his claim that Lars Ulrich is a better band than the national

, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:23 (ten months ago) Permalink

lol

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:23 (ten months ago) Permalink

turricans posting style itt vs drum sound on st anger

veggie sticks potato snacks (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:25 (ten months ago) Permalink

Now you're just making yourselves look ridiculous, guys, but whatever floats your boat.

As I said before, if people can't handle someone saying they find their favourite artist/album dull/unmemorable, then that's not my problem.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:29 (ten months ago) Permalink

no your problem is being a dullard

ps the national suck

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

Then in three years time you'll struggle to remember anything about this post.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

i cannot think of anything that would rile me up less than someone saying The National are boring

alpine static, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 23:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

wow, butthurt

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 23:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

A lot of online tabs peg "I Should Live in Salt" as 17/8, which at first seems ... unlikely. But I guess I can hear how someone could count that.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2016 01:53 (ten months ago) Permalink

Anyway, anyone got any information on the new album?

All I can find is that it's being recorded now, unlikely to come out this year and that they've "gone electronic" (whatever that means)

groovypanda, Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:17 (ten months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

arab strap is a good band to enjoy while waiting for a new national release

niels, Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:28 (five months ago) Permalink

I kind of get the spirit of why people think the National are dull. I was at some music thing where I met a girl who told me the National were her favorite band and when I asked her why she replied "They romanticize the ordinary." Like it's the poetic stream of consciousness of the average intelligent thirty something who is falling deep into ennui.

But there is something there lurking under the surface that makes them just interesting enough for me to not skip some of their tracks when they show up on shuffle. A subtle mythos that makes their songs become more than they are.

yesca, Saturday, 25 February 2017 23:11 (five months ago) Permalink

i think what's lurking beneath the surface is a killer band full of killer players who mostly write songs that are interesting and good

alpine static, Saturday, 25 February 2017 23:41 (five months ago) Permalink

Trouble Will Find Me is probably in my top ten in favorite of albums of the decade, so far.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:00 (five months ago) Permalink

It was my favorite of 2013 for sure.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:00 (five months ago) Permalink

when I asked her why she replied "They romanticize the ordinary."

this is okay but the correct answer is bryan devendorf

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 26 February 2017 00:33 (five months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New album soon?

Sleep Well Beast. pic.twitter.com/3IpxpigJlj

— The National (@TheNational) May 9, 2017

groovypanda, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 14:24 (two months ago) Permalink

promising tease

niels, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 20:38 (two months ago) Permalink

New album September 8th

New track now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O6duDDkhis

groovypanda, Thursday, 11 May 2017 09:56 (two months ago) Permalink

guitar solo!

niels, Thursday, 11 May 2017 11:05 (two months ago) Permalink

That was a shock! Is it their first?

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 11 May 2017 11:36 (two months ago) Permalink

the title drop is a bit clumsy but I like everything else about this

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 May 2017 12:24 (two months ago) Permalink

That's excellent.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 May 2017 13:55 (two months ago) Permalink

damn what a band

Evan R, Thursday, 11 May 2017 15:01 (two months ago) Permalink

The title sounds like an Adam Curtis film.

Gukbe, Thursday, 11 May 2017 16:01 (two months ago) Permalink

This new track fuckin' rules.

yesca, Monday, 15 May 2017 09:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Bought tickets for the London Monday gig. Anyone else going?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 15 May 2017 15:42 (two months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Not for £40 I ain't.

The XX pants (ledge), Monday, 12 June 2017 13:03 (one month ago) Permalink


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