Kid Creole & the Coconuts: C o' D, S 'n' D

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I've had "Stool Pigeon" in my head for going on three days now (intermittantly interrupted by that new Madonna and the theme from "Green Acres"). Is there a superior comp? An essential LP? And what song was it Michael Jackson sang on?

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 October 2002 01:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Never owned an album by him & them, but his appearances in both "Downtown 81" and....er...."Against All Odds" are both CLASSIC!!!! The soundtrack to "Downtown 81" has two live tracks ("Mr.Softee" and "Me No Popeye"...or something....) that are fuckin' great.

Sorry to hear about any Michael Jackson collaboration. That's never a good thing.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 October 2002 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

the Stool Pigeon 12" is great. other than that i have 2 LPs 'Fresh Fruit In Foreign Places' and 'Off the Coast of Me', and they're both pretty nice combinations of exotica, pop and disco. the production/mastering isn't great though, maybe the remastered CD reissues will sound better - the sound on the LPs is a bit thin and lifeless.

michael (michael), Friday, 4 October 2002 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i found that solo album by whats his name, coati mundi, a few weeks ago in the $1 bin...he covers "tropical hot dog night" by captain beefheart! it's choice!

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 4 October 2002 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic.Search Fresh Fruit In Foreign Places.On a tangent,search Machine's There But For The Grace Of God which August Darnell co-wrote.

dek1, Friday, 4 October 2002 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

The sound quality on the new reissues is fine, good enough to reveal the relative flatness of 'Tropical Gangsters' compared the deep focus 'Fresh Fruit'. 'Tropical Gangsters' reveals itself to be a bit of a Chic rip-off in terms of its riffology if not its production values, but it does have the BIG HITS, which are excellent. I haven't really digested 'Fresh Fruit' yet (boom boom!) but it does sound like the superior album, the music is much more rigorous (compare 'Musica Americana' to 'I'm Corrupt', which is almost as funny, but the music is relatively lifeless), the humour is (even) more biting and there's just a general air of adventurousness which is partly absent on the follow-up. Having said that, 'Fresh Fruit' doesn't do the nostalgia thing. Coati Mundi's 'Que Pasa?/Me No Pop-I' 12" is tacked onto the end of 'Fresh Fruit' and is a whopper. I haven't heard the other two reissues (yet).

As Dirty Vicar pointed out recently, Search: Kid Creole's appearance on 'No Problem'.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 6 October 2002 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Saw the video for "Endicott" on VH1-Classic today. Man, I forgot about that one; great video. Also loved "Stool Pigeon" back in the day.

I'll have to track down a comp of their stuff...Are they still around?

Joe (Joe), Monday, 17 February 2003 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid Creole:

Actually, the best thing that August Darnell has been associated with is the very first Dr. Buzzard's Savannah Band LP. I believe De La Soul sampled some of this on "3 Feet High."

In my opinion, "Wise Guy" is the definitive Kid Creole record.

Coati Mundi's "Que Pasa/Me No Pop I" is incredible--on this Ze records comp, "Seize the Beat." I'm envious of the above poster who found Coati Mundi's LP with "Tropical Hot Dog Night."

Of the later stuff, I still like "You Shoulda Told Me You Were..." from '91--"Consequently" is a classic track, and it's a good album. The one before that, "Private Waters in the Great Divide," also has some cool shit.

frank p. jones (frank p. jones), Monday, 17 February 2003 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I think it's time for a Kid Creole REVIVAL!!!!

I've had 'Stool Pigeon' in my head for a while and can't put my finger on which (90's probably) track sample the "upside down" part of the chorus. Anybody?

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 10 May 2004 07:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I've had 'Stool Pigeon' in my head for a while and can't put my finger on which (90's probably) track sample the "upside down" part of the chorus. Anybody?

The Avalanches?

Michael B, Monday, 10 May 2004 08:03 (eighteen years ago) link

That definitely sounds right!

Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Monday, 10 May 2004 08:04 (eighteen years ago) link

4 years ago, or thereabouts, I saw the scheduled ents list for South Shields' Marina Park/Bents Park. Inamongst the Abba tribute band, Oasis tribute, Status No, slade?, etc and a Suzi Quatro one, prob, was "Kid Creole and the Coconuts". Because there is only one, presumably...

(To be fair, the trib acts doubled/trebled up on a day, KC was headline act a diff day)

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 10 May 2004 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

here's what Kid Creole is up to these days

http://www.ohwhatanight.com/

Michael B, Monday, 10 May 2004 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link

that link is the most depressing thing I've seen in weeks. glad he's still working, but yikes!

lovebug starski, Monday, 10 May 2004 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

he is so much better than this. i know he's not making boatloads of $$$ these days, but has he really fallen this far?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I am, needless to say, bemused.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

When serving in Beauvais at the Academy, I chanced to meet a man named Pierre Rimjob. Of course as was the wont at the time he was ridiculed by the young cadettes for this frankly absurd name. I joined in, naturally, safe in the knowledge that my name would not be mocked.

Ultimately Pierre became so embarassed he was forced to leave the academy. But of course, this is not a meaningless tale of sheer human degradation, the point, and what I learned from this, was that a ridiculous name begats ridicule.

Jean-Luc (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

When serving in Beauvais at the Academy

This was Starfleet Academy, Captain Picard?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Your candour is impressive.

Jean-Luc (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I went on a big Kid Creole kick six months ago or so: fresh fruit in foreign places is meagclassic, so's wise guy and in praise of older women and other crimes though the hit-to-miss is not as great there. I, too, Have Seen the Woods is also pretty great. I don't know why everybody finds that link so depressing: 1) it doesn't sound actually that different metacontent-wise from what Kid Creole's been doing all along, and 2) Liza Minelli likes it, so it's gotta be great

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 May 2004 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Kid Creole needs to get his finger out and revive 'There's Something Wrong in Paradise' or whatever his TV special was called as a West End musical.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 08:12 (eighteen years ago) link

"it doesn't sound actually that different metacontent-wise from what Kid Creole's been doing all along"
Yeah sure the brilliant polyglot music and theatrical flair of those Kid Creole albums you mentioned is EXACTLY THE SAME as some tacky godforsaken supper club revue of 70s cover versions.
Metacontent-wise, you've gotta be kidding.

lovebug starski, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 10:17 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places or Wise Guy/Tropical Gangsters

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...
b ump

a much more complete website than i woulda expected

ahttp://www.kidcreole.com/

Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

still working on my august darnell rough guide!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 14 July 2006 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been on a kick lately. I think "Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places" is a really really good one. "Wise Guy" remains their masterpiece, though. And my buddy David Scott made me a CD of their rarest stuff--"Double on Back" is great! I'm a huge fan, and wish they got more props; but I guess they maybe don't play as well outside NYC. "When you leave New York, you
go...nowhere..."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 14 July 2006 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

pls include one Gichy Dan's Beachwood #9 Laissez Faire

Rev. PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 14 July 2006 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

GOT DAMMIT BBCODE WHY YOU MAKE ME HURT YOU

Telephone thing, Monday, 17 March 2008 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

(and don't ask how I remembered to use BBCode for the image but not the link, because I honestly don't know)

Telephone thing, Monday, 17 March 2008 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome! i love august darnell. there is such a playfulness in what he did ... "brilliant polyglot music and theatrical flair" is probably the best summation that i wouldn't ever have come up with.

one thing that i never hear people talk about is the coconuts' "solo" record. it's rad!

jaime, Monday, 17 March 2008 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

oh i just found this article about that comp:

"During the 80s, Kid Creole was the zoot-suited ‘Tropical Gangster’, a Latino Cab Calloway mixing pop, p-funk, big band swing and Latin rhythms for a series of global chart smashes, from ‘Stool Pidgeon’ and ‘Annie, I’m Not Your Daddy’ to ‘Endicott’.

Under his real name, August Darnell, Kid Creole had developed his feel for unusual music fusions and intelligent, acerbic life stories since 1974 through a series of projects as a prolific writer, musician and producer. Starting as a key member of Dr. Buzzard’s Savannah Band alongside his brother, Stony Browder Jr. in 1974, Darnell then masterminded Machine’s disco anthem ‘There But For The Grace Of God’ before becoming the in-house producer for Ze Records in New York. There, he helped fashion the grungy Ze sound through Cristina’s trash disco debut album and groundbreaking genre-bending work for Aural Exciters, James Chance and more.

Taking the name from the Elvis Presley film, Darnell created Kid Creole in 1980 and alongside his three female singers, The Coconuts, led by his Wife Addy, and a band including Dr. Buzzard’s Coati Mundi, he began honing his alter ego.

With today’s DJs consistently championing Darnell‘s early work, this exclusive Strut release covers 1974 to 1983 and features rare extended versions and album tracks released on CD for the first time. Compilation by DJ Guido of Paris DJs with extended sleeve notes by legendary New York journalist Vivien Goldman.

1. Dr. Buzzard’s Original Savannah Band – Sunshower
2. Don Armando’s Second Avenue Rumba Band – Goin’ To A Showdown
3. Kid Creole & The Coconuts – Going Places (Zemix version)
4. Cristina – Is That All There Is?
5. Gichy Dan’s Beachwood No. 9 – On A Day Like Today
6. Machine – There But For The Grace Of God Go I (LP version)
7. Don Armando’s Second Avenue Rumba Band - I’m An Indian Too (12” version)
8. Aural Exciters – Marathon Runner
9. Coati Mundi – Pharaoh (Can’t Take It To The Grave)
10. Aural Exciters – Emile (Night Rate)
11. Kid Creole – He’s Not Such A Bad Guy After All (12” version)
12. Ron Rogers – Don’t Play With My Emotions
13. Kid Creole & The Coconuts – Double On Back
14. Aural Exciters – Paradise
15. Kid Creole & The Coconuts - Off The Coast Of Me

- August Darnell has been a cult favourite with many different DJs over the last 10 years from leading names in disco (Danny Krivit, Muro, Dimitri, the D.I.R.T.Y. crew) to DJs as diverse as Prins Thomas, Trevor Jackson and Derrick Carter."

jaime, Monday, 17 March 2008 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

(or press release, rather)

jaime, Monday, 17 March 2008 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link

wow cool. i put together a homemade version a couple years ago! i always thought something like that or a box set even was in order.

s1ocki, Monday, 17 March 2008 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"grungy Ze sound"

Telephone thing, Monday, 17 March 2008 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link

excellent. strut back in bidness.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 17 March 2008 09:01 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

'New York Journalist' Vivien Goldman?

Saw KC yesterday - mid- afternoon slot at a fest in Dublin, rain threatening, muddy field, (not much of a) crowd waiting for Maximo Park/ N*E*R*D, and he was still cool; great players, and vision intact

sonofstan, Sunday, 24 August 2008 10:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i love "annie i'm not your daddy"

the next grozart, Sunday, 24 August 2008 11:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Odd, just played "Mr. Softee" this morning.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 24 August 2008 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link

they're such a wonderful thing, baby.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 24 August 2008 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Was just reading about the Cristina version of "Is That All There Is?" in the Franklin Bruno article about that song in the EMP book.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 24 August 2008 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i love "annie i'm not your daddy"

-- the next grozart, Sunday, 24 August 2008 11:17 (4 hours ago) Link

PappaWheelie V, Sunday, 24 August 2008 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

because if i was in your blood
then you wouldn't be so ugly

James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 24 August 2008 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Finally found a used copy of Tropical Gangsters, so now I have all first four of his albums. I had the compilation since 1990 or so and was so frustrated the individual albums weren't available. Overall none of them are very consistent, but it's still great to hear all the album tracks finally, filler and all, even if there's nothing that would replace the hits that have been included in my party mixes of the last 18 years.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 18 September 2008 04:22 (fourteen years ago) link

That comp looks awesome.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 18 September 2008 11:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes it does. So awesome I've just ordered it, along with the Strut Funky Nassau comp.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

it is awesome

ban deeznuts (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I found the Coati Mundi record thanks to this thread, I need to listen to that again.

my radio station got Funky Nassau, sounds really good on first listen.

sleeve, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Don Armando's Second Avenue Rhumba Band's 'Winter Love' is tremendously overlooked/underrated.

Easily one of the best.

tony orlando and dawng (PappaWheelie V), Thursday, 18 September 2008 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't see this "Tropical Gangster" being a Chic ripoff thing. I mean, Chic, in their heyday were very puritans about using only "real" organic instruments, whereas Kid Creole used a lot of synths on that album.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 18 September 2008 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

this fucking song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGBDAxCDLs4

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 20:53 (six years ago) link

indeed

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 21:01 (six years ago) link

You've heard the Gories version I hope :)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 21:08 (six years ago) link

I have now! :)

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 21:11 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51E5YSZARPL.jpg

every time I revisit it, miraculously, it's even better than I remember it

just incredible

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 8 November 2015 21:06 (six years ago) link

the bass sound on this is so great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM6pUOfpoXY

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 8 November 2015 21:10 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

sometimes I just want to listen to that I'm a Wonderful Thing riff or groove or w/e all day

woof, Monday, 4 April 2016 17:14 (six years ago) link

I feel very similarly about the 'Me No Pop I' riff or groove or whatever.

I am very inteligent and dicipline boy (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 April 2016 17:16 (six years ago) link

his musical opens in may.

http://lamama.org.previewdns.com/cherchez_la_femme/

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 4 April 2016 17:56 (six years ago) link

for me it's 'I'm Corrupt'.
actually every big track on that album is infectious

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2016 18:24 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

wait... this isn't the same guy?

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2017 11:34 (five years ago) link

how can there be two guys called Kid(d) Creole?

Shat Parp (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2017 11:34 (five years ago) link

Yeah, it should go on the Grandmaster Flash thread.

calzino, Friday, 4 August 2017 11:37 (five years ago) link

But it isn't every day you read about a hall of fame inductee stabbing a homeless man to death.

calzino, Friday, 4 August 2017 11:38 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Man, Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places is going down well today.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:23 (two years ago) link

it's sooooo good

Man, haven't heard it in about a decade, but yeah, all those early Kid Creole albums are fantastic.

In case the version of the album you're listening to isn't appended with Coati Mundi's solo single, do yourself a major favor and hit 'play' below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqCqHgSHjMA

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:38 (two years ago) link

so glad this thread got bumped for music appreciation reasons as opposed to why the Cristina thread got bumped the other day. R.I.P.

sarahell, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:51 (two years ago) link

I loooove this, buried in soundtrack rights limbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UWU2X7fk_8

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:54 (two years ago) link

Wish I had a time machine to go back and see them in 81, super tight band.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd78z9

Dan Worsley, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:55 (two years ago) link

so glad this thread got bumped for music appreciation reasons as opposed to why the Cristina thread got bumped the other day. R.I.P.

Truth be told, that news sent me back to Mutant Disco which sent me back to these guys.

I'm not sure I was really ready for this when I got it when Fresh Fruit was reissued about 15 years ago ... it initially sounds like a sort of hodgepodge of garish island music but sort of reveals itself on closer inspection. And suddenly you realize "Schweinerei" is just a fabulously bonkers tune with this tremendously sexy slinky chorus, "I Stand Accused" is this remarkable seaswept Rogers & Hammerstein ballad and it goes on and on -- like the Odyssey on which it's based every track is kind of its own miniature set piece. Most songs have about 4 different melodies, the form is almost always surprising and Darnell and Hernandez's arrangements are terrific, revealing just a little dissonance and mystery to the proceedings. And the way "Dear Addy" closes the record by just kind of floating away on this melange of reggae and orientalism is utterly unique.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 April 2020 22:59 (two years ago) link

Wish I had a time machine to go back and see them in 81, super tight band.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd78z9🕸


Just saw that in the theater not too long ago. Great stuff, & KC&tC was the highlight

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 3 April 2020 23:21 (two years ago) link

sarahell otm, and these records are still great, instant party

sleeve, Friday, 3 April 2020 23:26 (two years ago) link

Pulled out a Kid Creole cd for in-car listening yesterday, and I had forgotten how wonderful “I’m a Wonderful Thing, Baby” is. So much going on musically and lyrically, such an odd groove.

Album Moods: Rambunctious; Snide (Dan Peterson), Friday, 3 April 2020 23:39 (two years ago) link

Utopia Parkway was Amplifier’s best album of 1999 – and deservedly so. For me, it’s almost a perfect record, the sound of growing up in the mid- to late-80s when there were no helicopter parents and kids wandered the suburbs aimlessly, observing their parents and their weird traditions while never really connecting with them, and hardly a thought about their future beyond how to land a pretty girl.

With hindsight, it’s basically a concept record about how we idealize youth and exaggerate its trappings and small victories to justify the choices we make in adulthood. It could have been a recipe for snark. But what makes Schlesinger and Collingwood’s collaboration work is that they genuinely love the characters they write about and take no pride in escaping this life for themselves. That it ends on a song like The Senator’s Daughter—marrying your way into success as the ultimate way out—

I loooove this, buried in soundtrack rights limbo

📹


This song is magic for sure. It is on Anthology Vol. 1 & 2 thankfully.

I remember as a 12 y/o sneaking a view on cable of the otherwise crummy noir Against All Odds and being totally confused when James Woods introduces this dude in a Zoot suit at a benefit. Did they play the whole song?

Digging into Tropical Gangsters now ... def. more of a pure early 80s dance record along the lines of Fresh Fruit’s “Table Manners” but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 4 April 2020 15:42 (two years ago) link

was listening to dr. buzzard's debut the other day. still sounds great, too. it's the only one i've heard. anybody rep for either of their other 2?

medicate for all (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 4 April 2020 16:30 (two years ago) link

They did three more, but the only one of those I've heard is James Monroe H.S. Presents Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band Goes to Washington---does not sound like a marching band, just another left field joek I guess---enjoyed it when it first came out, in the late 70s, enjoyed the sounds without quite putting the whole thing together, then got distracted by well you know it was the late 70s, lots of compelling music, without so much of the in-crowd insinuations having to gradually sink in---but not s= much stiff competition these days, so maybe I should try it again. It was good, far as I got with it!
Going forward, I was more of a Kid Creole fan, up through You Shoulda Told Me You Were in '90 or '91, don't think I heard any after that.
For related, more on the relatively straight-fwd atmospheric art pop side check Gichy Dan, Gichy Dan's Beachwood No. 9, and Cory Daye's Cory and Me That Going Places mentioned upthread, pulling together lots of Darnell side trips, should be good too, from the tracks I know.

dow, Sunday, 5 April 2020 03:08 (two years ago) link

thx for the tips, dow. found gichy dan on spotify and didn't make too much of an impression on cursory listen. maybe it was my mood. maybe i shouldn't've been looking for great songs a la Dr. B or Kid C. listening to what i could find on youtube of the sophomore Buzzard's and it's really enjoyable. i'm more a Kid Creole fan too i guess i just have a soft spot for the Buzzard's weirdness fwiw

medicate for all (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:20 (two years ago) link

Hey! I have the Dr Buzzard debut, never knew it was a Kid Creole thing. Gonna have to relisten.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:28 (two years ago) link

yeah stony browder, leader of dr. buzzard, was august darnell's brother. august was their lyricist, iirc.

kid creole were a treat in concert. even when they swung through in 2015 it was a party, with cory daye in the house for the ny show.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:06 (two years ago) link

Sure I wish I could have seen that---will check youtube etc.
xxp yeah no showstoppers on the Gichy Dan, it's more about slowly stirring the colors in an old movie on Ted Turner's Atlanta Superstation, in the early days of (mostly purloined) cable---back then, past a hard day's night at the Southern Collegetown arty dive bar, then afterparties blasting B-52s, Pylon, Ramones, James White & The Blacks---Gichy Dan was part of the Sunday hangover cure.

dow, Sunday, 5 April 2020 23:38 (two years ago) link

Not that those weren't some dream colors too (weed was also part of the Sunday hangover cure).

dow, Sunday, 5 April 2020 23:39 (two years ago) link

“Cowboys & Gangsters” is a showstopper if there ever was one

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 6 April 2020 00:01 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

swap out one of the Cherchez La Femmes with Caroline Was a Dropout

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Sunday, 24 May 2020 02:32 (two years ago) link

They were fun live when I saw 'em in DC way back when ('81 I think)...

Watched Downtown 81 again recently and Kid is in that .

curmudgeon, Sunday, 24 May 2020 04:50 (two years ago) link

Excellent list – I would def. add Schweinerei which, as noted upthread, is a fave (I also apparently posted some legacy shit from another topic from my Zing app, apologies).

I’m having a hard time believing my revival of this thread was only six weeks ago. Feels like six months.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 24 May 2020 17:56 (two years ago) link

I forgot to mention that the Downtown 81 soundtrack has some reemarkable KC rarities: haven't found these performances of "K-Pasa-Bop" (with Coati Mundi) and "Mr. Softee" (also Coati Mundi's own "Palabras Con Ritmo") anywhere else, though it's been a while since I checked. May have been recorded just for this movie, as xgau says the excellent (live?) DNA tracks were. I like most of the rest better than he does, though yeah some I could live without, but overall quite the lively time trip. Oh, and who the hell is Pablo Calogero? Another KC associate? His "Tangita" is even more furnace room Downtown Latin rock etc.

dow, Sunday, 24 May 2020 20:04 (two years ago) link

oooh

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 May 2020 20:12 (two years ago) link

Yeah, and his site has two reviews; here's the more informative and relatively less neg:
DOWNTOWN 81
Recall

3 Stars

New York post-punk compilation unearths treasures along with garbage

With its Deborah Harry intro and Rammellzee envoi, this soundtrack to a quasi-documentary starring the late painter Jean-Michel Basquiat makes as if to encompass all the NYC music of its title's post-punk moment. Unfortunately, that moment was oft full of shit, as Walter Steding, Lydia Lunch, Japan's Plastics and a Basquiat band called Gray demonstrate. But sometimes it was anything but, and here you will hear not just all you need of Liquid Liquid, Suicide and graffitist Rammellzee (the indelible rap one-off "Beat Bop"), but--improbably--specially recorded versions that top the hard-to-find originals. The secretly funky avant-noise trio DNA sound more muscular on this "Blonde Redhead" and "Detached" than on the 2004 CD believed to contain all their recorded works. And the two numbers by August Darnell's suavely articulate Kid Creole and the Coconuts rock and/or disco harder than anything in their catalog.

Rolling Stone, Dec. 13, 2007 Do not agree re Liquid Liquid or several others, but duh do re rare KC and related (ditto DNA).

dow, Sunday, 24 May 2020 20:21 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Total mood lifter, this guy and his Coconuts.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 10:30 (three months ago) link

^this

Double Elvis on the Dime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 10:32 (three months ago) link

hey coconuts!

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:00 (three months ago) link

these LPs can be had for like $5 still, some of the most fun for your money there is

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:09 (three months ago) link

Since it's Prince's birthday today, everyone should listen to this song that he wrote for Kid Creole and The Coconuts. A totally amazing, hilarious composition that never saw the light of day. One of those things that Prince never intended for himself but put !00% into the demo. He loved August apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0T5PuF7foY

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:14 (three months ago) link

I guess August wasn't into it and only included it on the album on the insistence of the label. The Kid version not as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8XC15JlgIY

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:15 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Anybody heard this? I noticed that Spotify has finally gotten the recent remasters/deluxe versions.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 16 September 2022 12:46 (two weeks ago) link


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