Morrissey really seriously ill?

I thought the extract was a parody:

http://thequietus.com/articles/18847-morrissey-s-debut-novel-tanks

On a par with his lyrics.

"Last UK shows" my arsenal. He's basically going on a talent strike, saying that well, if no one will sign me, why should I perform, since the only point of performing is to sell new stuff?

sounds as if the talent strike was already in place when he started work on the novel

URL above led me to believe Morrissey had named his debut novel, "Tanks".

Irish Heart, English Blood and all that... or whatever the fuck way round it is.

“In the church of secret service known as the abattoir this is exactly what humans excitedly do to beautiful bodies of animals who were also crafted in care by some divine creationist, yet at the human hand the animals are whacked and hacked into chopped meat whilst gazing up at their protector with disbelief and pleading for a mercy not familiar to the human spirit, ground and round into hash or stew for the Big Mac pleasure of fat-podge children whose candidature for roly-poly vicious porkiness makes their plungingly plump parents laugh loudly, as little junior blubber-guts orders yet another Super-burger with tub-of-guts determination to stuff death into round bellies, and such kids come to resemble their parents as ten pounds of s--- in a five-pound bag.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/authors/morrissey-list-of-the-lost-best-lines/

So, he's still a vegetarian then.

(xp) Jeezus, I don't hold much store by the ould fella but I somehow expected better than that.

wow - roll over Marcel Proust

"whilst" bothers me so much

... that and every other word.

Is Morrissey not a very nice person, or is there a media conspiracy to portray him negatively? Speculative answers welcome

(but really, it's something I can't figure out: he wrote all those fantastic songs, some very sympathetic, some very funny - how could he possibly be an idiot??? and if he's not an idiot, why are there all these crazy Moz-quotes?)

Don't know where to start with that last post.

I have a headache today, really wanted to formulate a better post but gave up - question still sort of serious though, like, I'm still curious to know if I should keep on sympathizing with Moz/defend him or if he's just no longer a v cool person

and by "cool" I guess I mean "nice" or "good" but in sort of a relaxed way

stupid headache

At least I finally got some lolz out of this continually disappointing thread. (✌ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

In their secrecy, Harri does not like Tracey’s knotted banana toes, and Tracey finds the manly central issue too slight to grip, and although such things ought not to count in the adult mind, somehow they do yet they don’t yet they do yet they don’t.

#5 in that list reads like a set of rejected Cardiacs lyrics.

I have a headache today, really wanted to formulate a better post but gave up - question still sort of serious though, like, I'm still curious to know if I should keep on sympathizing with Moz/defend him or if he's just no longer a v cool person

it's actually an interesting question because what's good in his work is a sense of humanity and decency, but what's bad in both the work & in the public self (which we have to assume reflects himself: the one who answers questions for interviewers is not just a construct, he's not playing a part to be critiqued while holding opinions to the contrary of the things he says, etc) is really super gross, unkind, uncharitable, mean and petty. since his body of work is the construction of a public self, the question "what happened to you?" is pretty fair imo -- but I think, you know, the stuff that made him rich and that almost everybody has to confess some affection for is pretty heavily narcissistic stuff, stuff that glorifies the speaker and excludes anything like dialogue: Morrissey's work is a man expressing his opinions, often not even about his experiences but about the stuff he thought about while sitting around in his room. but "a man alone with his thoughts is in bad company" after a while -- an idealistic teenager may think "people ought to be nice to animals" or "the royal family, what horseshit" but the same man, having been repeatedly told by others & by his bank account that he's just a stellar dude, may (and does) think some pretty shitty thoughts, which he'll also then share in the hopes of being praised some more, and will then be resentful, like a child, when the people who feed him stop applauding his use of the potty

tl;dr this is what happens when you decline to mature after adolescence but still have a microphone

All that is so, probably.

It was striking for me that on his last album it took until track three (I think) for him to make reference to himself.

List of the Lost is, by some large distance, the worst book I have ever read. So sad to see the man who was the most gifted lyricist of his generation – someone who combined past and present to create his own wholly recognisable world – descend to this.

Joan, that's an excellent post. Also, doesn't he bore himself going on about the monarchy, vegetarianism, The royals & Oscar Wilde over and over again for 40+ years?

Morrissey is, like Prince, such a rarified and private personality that I've heard next to nothing about him as a person, and even when I have, it raises more questions than it answers. The most "human" thing I've heard is that he and his bandmates play soccer together all the time, which is not unlike stories of people playing basketball with Prince. Other than that, the "real" Morrissey seems to be on double-secure lockdown.

For that matter, he seems like such the opposite of indie bro Marr that I can't tell if Morrissey has changed, Marr has changed, or if their opposite nature is what somehow made them such strong collaborators in the first place.

I read a review of the book today saying at least the jury for the Bad Sex Award would only have to read one book this year :(

Joanie very otm

I enjoyed the autobiography tbh, at least the first 2/3rds of it or so. but bro has not aged well.

For that matter, he seems like such the opposite of indie bro Marr that I can't tell if Morrissey has changed, Marr has changed, or if their opposite nature is what somehow made them such strong collaborators in the first place.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in There Is A Light That Never Goes out, you def get the impression that Marr was always like that, very outgoing, good at "networking", ambitious and affable, "one of the lads"

like he just naturally gets along w/ppl sounds like

Was List of the Lost ghostwritten by Tom Watson?

I wonder if Moz can possibly be surprised at the critical reception, and how he's taking it

Morrissey really mentally ill? is a better question.

Looking forward to Moz/Franzen collabo.

J/k

For some reason, I get the feeling the whole thing is a contractual obligation.

Like, Moz has to write the book so he's written something bonkers.

And now the publisher has to publish it.

i doubt that but it does make you wonder if he had a contractual stipulation not to have an editor because no editor worth their salt and none working for penguin main-line would let that through, surely.

You know that review of 1066 and all that, "Quotation is hopeless, every sentence clamours for it" ?

Change Quotation for "Excision", ...

i understand what you mean, i think but:

Rare is the writer who is willing to complain that the big problem with Churchill during the war was that he was, frankly, a bit of a coward and unwilling to try to identify with the people he governed, but Morrissey is that writer. “Churchill himself would experience World War 2 safely and in a suite of rooms at Claridge’s most luxurious Mayfair hotel, with not a complicated twitch or pang to trouble his elaborate evening meal.” We’ll leave aside the fact that he makes it sound like Claridge’s is a chain, with the Mayfair branch simply its most upscale outpost – “Yeah, I was going to go stop at the Travelodge, but I got a deal on the Claridge’s at Peterborough services” – and instead note that the entire passage reads like a polemic written by a particularly single-minded street corner pamphleteer (see also Morrissey’s writing about the pernicious power of, wait for it, local television news. Damn you, Look North, with your hegemony!).

no editor would have let "a suite of rooms at Claridge’s most luxurious Mayfair hotel," slip through the net unless they were terrified of moz or a fanboy and therefore not a good editor (if there was one, as i said).

i would love one for my posts and i do need one, as you can tell.

My drive to work is too long and I often ponder about things, sometimes to get my brain away from "work".

Anyway, partly triggered by that Daily Mail banner headline that seemed to be suggesting the deaths of David Bowie and Terry Wogan as some kind of competition and partly influenced by enjoying a Best of Morrissey ... I found myself pondering Morrissey's obituaries. How will he be described? Will he appear on the front pages of newspapers, aside from the Guardian and Independent?

(Its been a while since I played any Morrissey and I was struck by how odd/quirky/creative much of it was).

jangle pop militant vegan crank

front page of the LA Times

Minor cult figure snuffs it

'List of the Lost' Author Dies In Double-Decker Bus Incident

Gay racist trampled by thankless beef cattle

complete twat snoozled in sleepland

Rupert Everett dies

Followed by apology,clarification

"Now Morrissey dies"

Smiths reunion tour ends tragically (before it ever really began, but in my heart it was so real).

"Morrissey tour dates cancelled"

don't you ever crave
to appear on the front of the Daily Mail?

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