Blake Shelton vs. Ray Price

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Yeah I think we all know who wins but anyway:

In connection with Blake’s first CMA for “Male Vocalist of the Year” award in 2010, Blake Shelton said,

If I am “Male Vocalist of the Year” that must mean that I’m one of those people now that gets to decide if it moves forward and if it moves on. Country music has to evolve in order to survive. Nobody wants to listen to their grandpa’s music. And I don’t care how many of these old farts around Nashville going, “My God, that ain’t country!” Well that’s because you don’t buy records anymore, jackass. The kids do, and they don’t want to buy the music you were buying.

1-24-13 (11:43 CST): Country music legend Ray Price has just responded to Blake Shelton’s comments through his Facebook page.

It’s a shame that I have spend 63 years in this business trying to introduce music to a larger audience and to make it easier for the younger artists who are coming behind me. Every now and then some young artist will record a rock and roll type song , have a hit first time out with kids only. This is why you see stars come with a few hits only and then just fade away believing they are God’s answer to the world. This guy sounds like in his own mind that his head is so large no hat ever made will fit him. Stupidity Reigns Supreme!!!!!!! Ray Price (CHIEF “OLD FART” & JACKASS”) ” P.S. YOU SHOULD BE SO LUCKY AS US OLD-TIMERS. CHECK BACK IN 63 YEARS (THE YEAR 2075) AND LET US KNOW HOW YOUR NAME AND YOUR MUSIC WILL BE REMEMBERED. – Ray Price

And as xhuxk said on FB:

""He’s the obsessive sort of traditional country fanatic who’ll 'spend $300 a week at Ernest Tubb Record Shop' when he’s in Nashville, and where [Miranda] Lambert swears by Ashlee Simpson, Shelton would usually rather listen to John Conlee." -- from an interview feature I did on Shelton for Billboard back in 2008, hmmm."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2013 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

"Who Are You When I'm Not Lookin'" made my top ten in 2010. Most of his other singles are innocuous at best.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2013 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Shelton seems to really look up to Yoakam, so he can't be all bad. That's not to say I'd ever want to listen to him.

Funk/Tonk (FunkyTonk), Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Shelton has kinda realized he fucked up:

"Whoa!!! I heard I offended one of my all time favorite artists Ray Price by my statement “Nobody wants to listen to their grandpas music”..And probably some other things from that same interview on GAC Backstory.. I hate that I upset him.. The truth is my statement was and STILL Is about how we as the new generation of country artists have to keep re-inventing country music to keep it popular. Just EXACTLY… The way Mr. Price did along hid journey as a main stream country artist.. Pushing the boundaries with his records. “For The Goodtimes” Perfect example with the introduction of a bigger orchestrated sound in country music.. It was new and awesome!!! I absolutely have no doubt I could have worded it better(as always ha!) and I apologize to Mr. Price and any other heroes of mine that it may offended.. I meant every word I said. Country music is my life and it’s future AND past is important to me. I’ll put my Lo(v)e and respect and knowledge About it up against anybody out there… ANYBODY…"

But as a friend of mine said on FB, "he apologizes, but he meant every word he said ... so ... he apologizes for offending Price, but meant to call him and people like him "jackasses"" Can't win for losing.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Price is a little bit off about Shelton being a flash in the pan--he's had 12 number one singles. The first one from over 11 years ago.

President Keyes, Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Shelton seems to really look up to Yoakam, so he can't be all bad

Shelton doesn't rock much, and Yoakam does, which is fine when he gets a good ballad like the one I cited. His Miranda Lambert collaboration is soppy shit.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 January 2013 23:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Shelton considers himself a Country Music historian/expert. I believe he said something like that backstage after winning at the CMA's last year. But there's no way a Brad Paisley, to name a modern Country act who bows to the Classic Country artists, would make that statement. Shelton might be right about moving Country forward, even though many old-timers don't like what they are hearing now. So, it is indeed funny that someone who actually likes the Old Tradition is now under fire for taking a quick shot at it. I see a Price/Shelton duet on the horizon.

jetfan, Friday, 25 January 2013 00:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Brad Paisley is also a rather good politician whereas Shelton knows he's hooked himself to the Miranda gravy train.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2013 00:29 (six years ago) Permalink

More fun:

Ray Stevens has also joined the fray saying, “I just heard Blake Shelton’s remarks about ‘old farts and jackasses’ and all I want to know is how he found out the title to my next single because it’s been a closely guarded secret here at the ‘Home.’ It will be available on vinyl or 8-Track at your nearest Tower Records store.” Brandon Fulson beat Ray to it though, recording a song “Old Farts and Jackasses.”

Dale Watson has also chimed in: “Ray price is the best voice in country music period !!!! And some supremely Mediocrre voice like this fuck Blake Shelton should whince!” He is the Lance Armstrong of country music !! HYPE, Mr. Miranda Lambert!”

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2013 01:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I live in Nashville, and every day I hear someone decrying modern country. "It's not what country used to be! It's just hair-metal! It's a ripoff of '80s rock, of power ballads, of John Cougar!" Every day, someone tells me that Taylor Swift isn't "country music." Well, duh. The fact of the matter is, a lot of what people called country in the olden days wasn't really country music, either. It was pop music, folk music, contrived music meant to sell, with maybe a country-sounding singer or a pedal steel. Old-time country ripped off everything--rock 'n' roll, soul, blues, and mainly, a lot of received-folk music, what I modestly call the "country-folk-pop cusp." so this is nothing new. What I posted on FB earlier, and what Chuck Eddy knows too, is that Blake has country bona fides--he was a discovery of Bobby Braddock, one of country's most famous songwriters, the guy who wrote "Her Name Is..." for George Jones. And Barn and Grill, Blake's record of a few years back, is a country record simple if not totally pure. So I don't get it, except that Blake is saying what someone should have said in Nashville years ago, just to shut up these Americana-purist doofuses who think country music ended in 1978 when Gary Stewart flamed out, or whatever. Yes, the idiom of country has changed, but so what? Anyway, it pains me to say that Ray Price is kind of stupid to say what he's said--Ray Price is great--but remember, Ray made some mighty E-Z listening records back in the day, and yeah, I know Price was also a real great, swingin', dope-smoking shuffle-Texas kinda legit country guy too.

Edd Hurt, Friday, 25 January 2013 06:00 (six years ago) Permalink

and Dale Watson is a total snooze. a retro guy about one step up from Junior Brown, forgettable, good for a couple of songs, and just another revivalist, there are plenty of 'em in Nashville and you can act like a tourist on Lower Broadway and catch any number of them any nite of the week, and they're all better than Dale Watson is.

Edd Hurt, Friday, 25 January 2013 06:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Brad Paisley is also a rather good politician whereas Shelton knows he's hooked himself to the Miranda gravy train.

you know he's now a prime time tv star right

da croupier, Friday, 25 January 2013 06:56 (six years ago) Permalink

lolling at anyone who isn't ray price's age getting uptight about blake's uncouth poptimism

da croupier, Friday, 25 January 2013 06:59 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah but have you seen his expression whenever the camera cuts to him? Dude looks like a pod person.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2013 11:57 (six years ago) Permalink

she's gunpowder, he's lead

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 January 2013 11:59 (six years ago) Permalink

he's pretty affable imo

fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 13:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Good points all from Edd (though we'll have to disagree on Dale).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 January 2013 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Dale sounds really stodgy and leaden to me, for the most part (we've already talked about him some on the Rolling Country thread this year -- I even see his long fancy tour bus parked in a neighborhood adjacent to ours when I ride my bike sometimes), though I liked the funnier, more upbeat songs on Whiskey Or God a few years back. He's totally bored me since.

As has Shelton, for the past few years, though I liked enough of Barn & Grill from 2004 and Pure B.S. from 2007 (the two albums before I did that interview with him that Ned sampled up above.)

xhuxk, Friday, 25 January 2013 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Glad I went to see him when he finally came up to NYC after a two decade absence a while back.

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm seeing notices on some fb C&W pages that Ray died today. Nothing official though.

Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 December 2013 19:47 (five years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Price_(musician)#Cancer

Mule, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Deceased according to wiki.

Mule, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:02 (five years ago) Permalink

What a fantastic voice on that man.

Mule, Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:18 (five years ago) Permalink

:(

The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 December 2013 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

It's been retracted, apparently. Sorry for rushing things. In bad taste on my part.

Mule, Sunday, 15 December 2013 21:03 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Just realized that when I saw Ray Price in NYC it must have been June 2000 and that his band leader and right hand man, Moises "Blondie" Calderon, who some say was to Ray what Don Rich was to Buck Owens, passed away shortly afterwards in October 2000. RIP, guys.

Wild Mountain Armagideon Thyme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 January 2014 11:52 (five years ago) Permalink

That's quite a headstone.

And I thought you were here to talk about Blake Shelton finishing 23rd on the Nashville Scene critics poll album list

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/the-results/Content?oid=4034364

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

And on their singles list:

19. Blake Shelton with Pistol Annies, "The Boys Around Here" (Warner Bros. Nashville

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 January 2014 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/hFhGQyT.jpg

Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 January 2015 21:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Doctor, my eyes!

Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 January 2015 22:54 (four years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

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