Taking Sides: Hank Marvin vs Eric Clapton

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I heard 'Apache' the other night, first time in ages. So I've tried to think of someone to play Hank off against, and I think "Derek" might be the man.

― the pinefox (the pinefox), Monday, 30 September 2002 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

(I want to see Q's view on this.)

― the pinefox (the pinefox), Monday, 30 September 2002 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hank Marvin, definitiley. Fiery as it may be, "Layla" ain't got nothing on the sheer coolness of "Apache". And "Wonderful Land", well, that's just...

(Incidentally, they both suck now, but at least Hank does so on a low profile)

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 30 September 2002 21:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The Savage" which Marvin recorded with the Shadows in 1961 is ace: very hard rocking compared to most of their other hits (probably why it only reached number 9 or thereabouts).

"Apache" is great, obv. The John Barry Seven's version of "Walk Don't Run" from the same era actually improved on the Ventures' original: fuller sound, heavier lead guitar.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 30 September 2002 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

On the Clapton side you have Cream and the Yardbirds, after which it gets a bit ropey (although 461 Ocean B is OK)

On the other hand, you have the man who invented hip hop!

― Robin Goad, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 06:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hank Marvin also invented punk as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 08:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

...and hip hop, of course

― bham, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 08:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hank, definitely (see intrumental thread below). The Shadows' 20 Golden Greats was one of my favourite albums when I was growing up. It's been reissued as 50... as it contains the dull '80s covers, which seems a pity as they lack the unique character of the early tracks (and Norrie Paramor).

― Jez (Jez), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 09:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

THERE'S ONLY ONE DEREK AS FAR AS GUITARS ARE CONCERNED - GOD LIVES IN CLAPTON! QED.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Robin C: how do you see 'Apache' within British cultural history of the time? Exoticism? A piece of Americana?

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 1 October 2002 12:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Marcello speaks the truth. and i'm not talking abt that Johnny Cash song from 1972 that allison houston referred to.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 12:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I suppose 'Apache' was an attempt to cash in/capitalize on the simpler 'Comanche'. It wasn't realy exotic, was it? It reeks of Saturday mornings down at the picture house and playing bows and arrows on the way home.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 14:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Peter speaks the truth on "Apache", but that's its charm I suppose.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 1 October 2002 15:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

five years pass...

"Apache" is the fucking joint and I don't think there's a single guitarist in history I'd rather listen to than Hank M.

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 25 October 2007 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm talking the original "Apache" as well, not some fag-around on bongos.

― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 25 October 2007 12:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Cliff Richard plays the tomtom on the intro, fact fans!

― Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2007 12:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Definitely "The Wank". Clapton's recent autobio is supposed to be a classic of self-lacerating angst tho'. I suspect Marvin is rather more self-contented.

― PhilK, Thursday, 25 October 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

Eric Who? Hank in '62...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJe4ObZK89M

― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Monday, 19 September 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

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