A thread to consider Second Language (Plinth, Piano Magic, Dollboy etc) and beyond (Clay Pipe Music, David Sheppard, Michael Tanner etc)

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Named after a Disco Inferno track, discography as follows:

SL019 The Cloisters The Cloisters - ORDER HERE

SL018 Richard Moult Yclypt - ORDER HERE

SL018x Various Artists End Of A Season - a Second Language label sampler - ORDER HERE

SL017 Piano Magic Life Has Not Finished With Me Yet - ORDER HERE

SL016 Memory Drawings Music For Another Loss - SOLD OUT

SL015/Pipe003 Tyneham House Tyneham House - SOLD OUT

SL014 Various Artists Music & Migration II - SOLD OUT

SL013x Mark Fry/The A Lords Leaves - SOLD OUT

SL013 Mark Fry/The A Lords I Lived In Trees - ORDER HERE

SL012 Pete Astor Songbox - ORDER HERE

SL011x littlebow Puff - SOLD OUT

SL011 littlebowThe Edge Blown Aerophone - SOLD OUT

SL10 Richard Moult Celestial King For A Year - SOLD OUT

SL09 Various Artists Minute Papillon - SOLD OUT

SL08 Klima Serenades & Serinettes - SOLD OUT

SL07x brave timbers Woodwork - SOLD OUT

SL07 brave timbers For Every Day You Lost - SOLD OUT

SL06 Various Vertical Integration - SOLD OUT

SL05x Plinth Flotsam - SOLD OUT

SL05 Plinth Music For Smalls Lighthouse - SOLD OUT

SL04X Piano Magic Home Recordings - SOLD OUT

SL04 Ghostwriter The Continuing Adventures Of The Strange Sound Association - SOLD OUT

SL03 Dollboy Ghost Stations / Geisterbahnhöfe - SOLD OUT

SL02 Various Music & Migration - SOLD OUT

SL01 Textile Ranch Tombola - SOLD OUT

djh, Saturday, 17 November 2012 23:29 (six years ago) link

buncha sellouts

scott seward, Sunday, 18 November 2012 00:05 (six years ago) link

Lock thread.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 November 2012 00:06 (six years ago) link

Snow Palms' Intervals (Village Green) sounds nice, from the clips:


[Snow Palms = David Sheppard and Chris Leary. David Sheppard = 1/3 of Second Language]

djh, Sunday, 18 November 2012 20:19 (six years ago) link

Overall impression is probably "nice rather than necessary". Wasn't keen on Piano Magic's Life Hasn't Finished With Me Yet (usually a fan); their Home Recordings sounds good from the tracks I've heard online. Memory Drawings didn't have the sense of place of Richard Adams' usual work. The Cloisters haven't really made an impression on me yet. Tyneham House was pretty.

djh, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:01 (six years ago) link

I like Plinth a lot from the little I've heard, though that's basically limited to 'Collected Machine Music'. Been meaning to check out more Michael Tanner things but for whatever reason haven't got round to it.

alb indys, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:30 (six years ago) link

Any thoughts on the few releases that are still available?

djh, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:15 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...


djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:27 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

A Directorsound album is the first in the label's new Library Series, apparently. Colleen album is 4th in the series. No idea what are second and third.

I note that earlier today the label was accusing other labels of plagarism.

djh, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:25 (six years ago) link

(Directorsound album is up for sale on Norman Records but not yet mentioned on Second Language's website).

djh, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 20:26 (six years ago) link

I note that earlier today the label was accusing other labels of plagarism.

i hope he's not referring to the other label of the same name, that existed before he started his terrible, boring label

flaccid archives (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 01:30 (six years ago) link

I couldn't for the life of me work out who they were referring to. There's some nice stuff on the label - as well as some boring stuff - but I'm not sure it is a label that is distinctive enough to be claiming others are ripping them off.

djh, Thursday, 21 February 2013 07:29 (six years ago) link

I can see why people might be tempted to subscribe (for the bonus discs).

djh, Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:14 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Any thoughts on the Directorsound album?

djh, Monday, 11 March 2013 18:28 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

New Piano Magic compilation. Apparently they've split up.

djh, Friday, 19 July 2013 16:22 (six years ago) link

(Perhaps not before time, judging by that reaction).

djh, Monday, 22 July 2013 21:29 (six years ago) link


take that, bitterman (electricsound), Monday, 22 July 2013 22:37 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Anyone been keeping up/still interested?

djh, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:45 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

SL025 Various Artists Music & Migration III - ORDER HERE

SL025x The Home Current Mizieb EP - ORDER HERE

SL024 Sharron Kraus Pilgrim Chants & Pastoral Trails - ORDER HERE

SL024x Sharron Kraus Night Mare - SOLD OUT

SL023 Colleen The Weighing Of The Heart - ORDER HERE

SL023x Colleen The Weighing Of The Heart - Iker Spozio ltd edition hand-engraved print - SOLD OUT

SL022 Áine O’Dwyer Anything bright or startling? - ORDER HERE

SL022x Áine O’Dwyer Safely Adrift - ORDER HERE

SL021x Piano Magic Never It Will Be The Same Again - ORDER HERE

SL021 Piano Magic Heart Machinery - A Piano Magic Retrospective, 2001-2008 - ORDER HERE

SL020x Directorsound Sins Of The Leopard Suite - SOLD OUT

SL020 Directorsound I Hunt Alone - ORDER HERE

djh, Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:54 (five years ago) link

Plus Plinth's 'Music For Smalls Lighthouse' re-released via Clay Pipe Music.

djh, Saturday, 21 September 2013 21:56 (five years ago) link

Was the Dollboy album any good?

djh, Friday, 27 September 2013 18:34 (five years ago) link

It is!

Here is a Dollboy/Sone Institute interview and live session for a Podcast that I engineer:


Also in a related note, Directorsound are playing at the Union Chapel in London tomorrow afternoon (free admission, but suggested donation) for Arctic Circle/Daylight Music whom I am part of.


many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:43 (five years ago) link

apologies for sucky grammar..

many machines on ilx (MaresNest), Friday, 27 September 2013 19:44 (five years ago) link

Ta. Was pondering whether to buy the re-issued Ghost Stations.

djh, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 20:15 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Slightly surprised this thread doesn't have more traffic.

djh, Friday, 22 November 2013 22:27 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

SL030 Silver Servants s/t - ORDER HERE

SL030x Silver Servants Cold Lazarus - ORDER HERE

SL029 Oliver Cherer Sir Ollife Leigh & Other Ghosts - ORDER HERE

SL029x Oliver Cherer A Millying & Mor

SL028 Robin Saville Public Flowers - ORDER HERE

SL028x Robin Saville Hybrids

SL027 littlebow Pi Magpie - ORDER HERE

SL027x littlebow Five White Feathers

SL026 Dollboy Ghost Stations / Geisterbahnhöfe - ORDER HERE

SL026x Dollboy Sidings

djh, Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:47 (four years ago) link

i have no idea what a lot of these things are, but all the littlebow records i have heard have been very lovely things

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 25 September 2014 18:53 (four years ago) link

Mildly tempted by the Mark Fry album.

djh, Monday, 29 September 2014 17:55 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Not strictly Second Language (it's on Wayside and Woodland) but I'm fond of this for reasons that I can't quite figure:


djh, Saturday, 30 September 2017 21:28 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

From the Durutti Column thread:


Vini's guitar being used well.

― djh, Wednesday, February 6, 2019 7:45 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

saw this revive and simultaneously experienced two very different and extreme emotions:



both with this facial expression: O_O

glad i was wrong.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:47 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh, he is literally using one of Vini Reilly's guitars!

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, February 6, 2019 10:55 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


Yes, I have previously proposed a ban on this thread just because I always jump to the first of these.

Haven't actually heard the story of the guitar and wonder if it is mundane as "Vini sold his guitar"? Still, I have time for Cherer.

Might move this conversation to the Second Language thread - less traumatic for those watching.

― djh, Wednesday, February 6, 2019 11:03 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

djh, Wednesday, 6 February 2019 23:05 (six months ago) link

This sounds really promising, based on the first track. His Gilroy Mere project also got a lot of play here last year.

doug watson, Thursday, 7 February 2019 02:09 (six months ago) link

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