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― dlp9001, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
First Of The Last Polls
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
Gotta Lotta
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
There is no way Bob and Grant hate Greg more than they hate each other. Grant considers Bob a self-serving compulsive liar who limited the number of songs he could contribute, kicked him out of the band, then spent several of the past years trying to scam the rights to the band's music out of the other members.
However, I have it on some authority that the band has if not buried the hatchet, then has managed to find itself on the same (legal) page, as far as the catalog goes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
My favorite line came from Grant (a long time ago) who said "Bob won't get off his high horse and Grant won't get off his horse high."
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
Quoting Robert Carradine in Go Ask Alice. (Not kidding.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
I could listen to Mould singing "It's a game some say that anyone can play" over that riff for 3000 minutes.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
I generally refrain from this craze, but: Bob Polled.― clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:23 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:23 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Would've also worked for GBV poll.
― Mates of 808 State (S-), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
Wish I could vote for "2541" in this. Not complaining, though, I understand why that's a separate thing.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
Would never forgive myself if something like "Helpless" topped a Husker Du poll.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't started thinking about my actual 20 yet, but I'm predicting it will break about evenly between Grant and Bob. I think of myself as a Grant fan, but I have a feeling when I really go through the catalog there's going to be more Bob I love than I tend to remember.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
thought i'd post this here
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/575118_10151239675558774_1156480133_n.jpg
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
^grew up with that game
― multiple decades of jazz (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
I've got two versions of it at home - the one featured in the YouTube above and this one:
http://neighborhoodvalues.com/nv/Toys-Games/TG4/pixs/HuskerDu1.jpg
Both were gifts – hey, pplains likes Husker Du, I'd bet he'd love these board games!
I finally opened the new one up with my then-2-year-old daughter. Haha, she didn't outwit me for shit.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
I grew up with the old one, too, which I have downstairs.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
Noticed the Grant beefs with Greg in recent interviews, he must be full of shit considering he's been supposedly friends and thanked in album covers in the 20+ years since the split
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 15 November 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link
Something like "I wouldn't have any problem playing again with Bob, but I'd have no interest in playing with Greg, neither would Bob".
Maybe if Grant wasn't prone to such strange outbursts people would take his account of the Husker split and his problems with BM more seriously.
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 15 November 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
They both probably got food poisoning at Greg's restaurant.
― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
I heard that Eiffel Tower High was written about GM's mustache
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
GN, that is
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
Probably ought to put this up at this point. Not perfect, but has its moments. Ode to Bob Mould. Better than TMBG's Replacements song...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuRZMu7wHc&feature=youtu.be
― dlp9001, Thursday, 15 November 2012 02:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://youtu.be/UWuRZMu7wHc
― dlp9001, Thursday, 15 November 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
Could You Be the One is my #1
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 15 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Ted Leo's been covering that one: http://youaintnopicasso.com/mp3/tedleocovers/05%20Could%20You%20Be%20the%20One.mp3
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 November 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
I think it has my favorite Husker guitar solo.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
Is 'Flip Your Wig' the only song where Bob and Grant both sing on it? (Apart from stuff stuff like 'New Day Rising' title track etc.)
― Mates of 808 State (S-), Friday, 16 November 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw here's a blog post I wrote last year in the middle of a Zen Arcade reimmersion
http://blogs.metropulse.com/10-minute_obsession/2011/04/listening-to-zen-arcade-at-mid.html
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 November 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
(tho I see I attributed "What's Going On" to Mould instead of Hart. What you get for writing late-night exegeses.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 16 November 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
Ice Cold Ice? Not the trading verses like you're talking about though.
― pplains, Friday, 16 November 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
I've got it whittled down to 35 songs. Sorry, Baby Song, maybe next time.
― pplains, Friday, 16 November 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
Isn't "Somewhere" the only time Bob sang a Grant song? I totally agree with the above blog post about "Zen arcade", it's a record I admire more than love. Playing it again for this poll reminded me that I think it's impact and construction (a hardcore double concept album) was more important than the song content. There are some great songs on it, but better elsewhere in their catalogue.
Xp on "Could you be the one?" - I've always had a soft spot for this song, as it was the only cover I did at my debut solo gig twenty one years ago.
Think I'm down to thirty songs on my list so far, evenly split between Bob and Grant (with one entry for McGuinn / Clark etc)
― Rob M Revisited, Friday, 16 November 2012 07:54 (eleven years ago) link
oh man i've been waiting for this poll, first in a while where i felt more "ok i have a ton of their work i know well and want to make a ballot" than "i want to see results so i know what to investigate"
― da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
"Somewhere":
I've been confused about that song ever since I first read the liner notes on the gatefold. "Whoever wrote the song sang it, except for 'Somewhere'…" It's credited to Mould/Hart, but that's clearly Grant singing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qCSAWnl8EI
"Masochism World" and "One Step At a Time" are the only other M/H songs on the record. Grant's singing on Masochism, so how come it didn't get the same attention in the liner notes as "Somewhere"? And One Step is a 45-second piano piece. It took both guys to write that?
"Somewhere" is an awesome song, whatever the story is on it.
― pplains, Friday, 16 November 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Wait, is the Byrds cover valid in this poll?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
It was officially released by the band Husker Du.
You can even throw some love to Donovan and Sonny Curtis, if you so wish.
― pplains, Friday, 16 November 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
(heck, it doesn't have to be official. Put Ticket to Ride in there if you really think that's one of the 20 best Husker Du songs.)
― pplains, Friday, 16 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
8 Miles High has a strong shot at being #1 on my ballot
― WilliamC, Friday, 16 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
xp: Ha, I'd always heard the lyric as "It's a game, some game, that anyone can play."
Predictably my ballot skewed 11.5 Bob, 8.5 Grant (counting "New Day Rising" as half), but with Grant taking the top 2 slots. Hint: One of them is "What's Going On," the punk classic largely unrecognized as such because it's on an album since reclaimed as something other than or transcending a punk classic. Phooey to that. I still remember playing "Pink Turns to Blue" for Al and Mim Sparhawk during an interview and their young daughter exclaiming, "This is CRAZY!"
I just keep telling myself that if Husker Du weren't such stubborn, contentious assholes, they wouldn't have been the band they were.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
"It's a game, some game, that anyone can play." wait, it's not this?
― passion it person (La Lechera), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, lyric sheet confirms Alfred misheard, not I. What, I'm working at home.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
That's how I always heard it, too.
xp
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Games is an immense song
Predictably my ballot skewed 11.5 Bob, 8.5 Grant (counting "New Day Rising" as half), but with Grant taking the top 2 slots
Pretty sure this is a common view held by a lot of fans, esp. in terms of GH songs being absolute highlights
Can only wonder what would have happened if GH had pushed for half and half on the earlier albums
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
i've had most of their full-lengths since high school but only heard "Diane" and "Eight Miles High" pretty recently, since I've never been much for buying album-price EPs and stand-alone singles. i almost wonder if i overrate them because they're the probably the Last Great Husker Du songs I'll hear for the first time
― da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think there's going to be a single grant song
srsly, what the hell?
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KA8on-1V33w/TXLsUmxrAQI/AAAAAAAAA3g/e-IDIGAVIRg/s1600/R-1610376-1232011163.jpeg
^ I bought this cassette so I could hear Eight Miles High, some of the rest of it was alright too though
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
I think the Eight Miles High 7" was the first record of theirs I bought, soon followed by Zen Arcade (at the end of '84, after SST had been sold out of it for some months I think).
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
i heard it on this and i already loved the byrds version from oldies radio and hearing the HD version was likewhoai knew zen arcade (got it from the library) and had solo bob m (workbook, black sheets of rain) because i won it off the radio (and liked him) but i had never heard them do 8 miles highi remember totally flipping out and making everyone i knew listen to it (they did not care)
http://www.sweatsoaked.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/sst-duck.jpg
― passion it person (La Lechera), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
There are worse things to overrate than "Eight Miles High."
I don't think GH was as good a songwriter on the earlier albums, so I'm glad he had to compete.
some of the rest of it was alright too though
Ha, I'd count Paranoid Time and the Black Flags among the greatest rock and roll ever, but that's me.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
I once played Zen Arcade for coworkers (we were allowed to listen to music at work, and took turns with cassettes). They were all familiar with Bob's solo stuff, but had never heard of, much less heard, Husker Du. They refused to believe that the singer of "Something I Learned Today" and "Broken Home, Broken Heart" was Bob Mould. It wasn't until "Chartered Trips" that they grudgingly accepted that it might be him.
― 5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 16 November 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
wow, whenever mould does his "actually fans don't ask about husker they only want to know about sugar" thing i usually figure he's doing his PR stonewalling thing, but i guess it's not that much harder to believe than Cracker fans who have no idea about camper van beethoven
― da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link