Gotta Lotta POLLING To Do - ILM Artist Poll #29 - Your HÜSKER DÜ Nominations Thread

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Do you remember? It's time to rank the top Hüsker Dü songs!

Songs should be limited to Husker Du releases only – No Sugar, Nova Mob or solo stuff. Live stuff, bootlegs, unreleased material all okay as long as the songs were performed by the band Husker Du. Votes for live versions will be combined with votes for the studio version of that particular track. The discography found on this page is pretty damn exhausting.

Here's what you can send:

• 20 tracks, ranked in the usual ILM™ way: No. 1 gets 40 points, 2:36, 3:33, 4:30, 5:28, 6:26, 7:25, 8:24, 9:23, 10:22, 11:21, 12:20, 13:19, 14:18, 15:17, 16:16, 17:15, 18:14, 19:13, 20:12.

• Include your favorite album.

• And when it comes right down to it, are you a Bob or Grant fan?

Please send all ballots to makes.no.sense at gmx.com.

Voting concludes on Wednesday, 11/21, at 1800 CST. (Thurs., 11/22, 0000 GMT / 1100 NSW). You're all in luck, U.S. Thanksgiving is next week, so I'll have more time than usual to compile the votes. Results could be released as soon as Monday, 11/26.

Get your ballots in – this ain't Indecision Time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHJonU8HNyQ

pplains, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 17:02 (nine years ago) link

gmx.com = gmail?

WilliamC, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 17:05 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHTbvKJNZT8

Erase Today folks!

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 17:06 (nine years ago) link

you know, i'm almost done this already, and i don't think there's going to be a single grant song on this ballot.

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Maybe "Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill"...?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 17:30 (nine years ago) link

But yeah, I only ever think of Mould songs too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 17:30 (nine years ago) link

Vote for "Gilligan's Island," everybody!

WilliamC, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 17:31 (nine years ago) link

no gmail. gmx.com.

I don't know if I could take any more Google + invitations like the deluge I receive at my beatles comp box.

And besides, I was really intent on making that Makes No Sense At All joke.

______

We'll see how many ballots come in. I was thinking the Top 33 – an odd number so we don't get a tie between songwriters.

Unless everyone votes for this song, which I heartily encourage you to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_krzwd1tTp8

pplains, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:01 (nine years ago) link

you know, i'm almost done this already, and i don't think there's going to be a single grant song on this ballot.

― idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:11 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

WHAT?!

I guess I can do this pretty easily too but there will be lots and lots of Grant songs.

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:06 (nine years ago) link

"Dead Set On Destruction" is likely in my top 5.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:07 (nine years ago) link

I've told you about the evil woman I once dated who made a cassette version of Warehouse that excluded all of the Grant songs.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lytfj35ZIp1r8dufio1_500.gif

I can get you her digits strongo. you guys can take turns playing the piano parts from Zen Arcade.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:12 (nine years ago) link

haha my ipod edit of warehouse excises all of the grant songs too.

most of the bob songs, too, mind you.

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:15 (nine years ago) link

yeah me too -- that album is like a zillion songs too long

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:28 (nine years ago) link

so far i have two songs from the warner years on this ballot and i still may cut them

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:29 (nine years ago) link

I can't even get too worked up about this (Hart/Mould) because I've done it so many times already.

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:29 (nine years ago) link

I usually skip all the Hart songs on Warehouse too.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:38 (nine years ago) link

Warehouse is lucky if it's one LP worth of keepers, but the sins are spread equally between Bob and Grant IMO. And my favorite song on the album is one of Grant's.

Antonin Scylla (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:48 (nine years ago) link

And I find Bob on autopilot utterly unbearable in a way that auto-Grant doesn't quite reach

Antonin Scylla (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:48 (nine years ago) link

but the sins are spread equally between Bob and Grant IMO.

This is OTM.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:52 (nine years ago) link

Totally! That's because he's better!!
Oops xp

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:53 (nine years ago) link

This probably isn't the place, but I've never understood the dislike for "Warehouse" - I can only think of two or three songs I would pass over - but two of those three are Grant's songs. When "Warehouse" is great, it's fucking brilliant imo. Just a shame the production's a bit feeble.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:02 (nine years ago) link

Favourite song on Warehouse these days is probably You Can Live At Home Now. It's probably just as clunky as it is funky, but the way that the sound just keeps piling on is so great. In my mind it feels like the most monolithic vehicle for noise thing they did since Zen Arcade, give or take the odd How To Skin A Cat or Helter Skelter.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:06 (nine years ago) link

It's one of my favorite band finalés.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:13 (nine years ago) link

xpost that is my favorite track too. I didn't want to name it in case that constituted an attempt at nomination-influencing.

Antonin Scylla (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:15 (nine years ago) link

It's one of my favorite band finalés.

never really thought about it that way before, but yeah - final track on the final album. If you gotta sail a ship off into the sunset, you may as well make it a steel-plated battlecruiser.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:20 (nine years ago) link

full disclosure i once wept on a plane to the last 90 seconds or so of that song

multiple decades of jazz (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:21 (nine years ago) link

aw

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:24 (nine years ago) link

I read an interview in a short lived music mag with Bob and Grant in the spring of 87, just after "Warehouse", in which they said the album was recorded in the order the songs were issued, and that future developments would be based on the music of side 4 of the album, which whetted my appetite at the time as I loved the direction they were heading. And yes, in the right (or wrong) frame of mind, the last few minutes of "You can live at home" can be utterly devastating.

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:30 (nine years ago) link

I think it was the only time Grant Hart got one of his own songs to either open or close a side, much less the whole record.

pplains, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 22:31 (nine years ago) link

wait so this is a nominations thread? i thought all HD songs were automatically included, or not?

if not, i hereby nominate ALL OF THEM.

pschnauzer (La Lechera), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:18 (nine years ago) link

Same exact thought. They put out so few albums, do nominations apply?

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:28 (nine years ago) link

Are EPs albums? (For voting purposes)

Mates of 808 State (S-), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:45 (nine years ago) link

I bet my Grant songs outnumber Bob's 3 to 1

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:46 (nine years ago) link

oh wait i forgot you can live at home is a grant

idiot man-child (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:50 (nine years ago) link

I may do a list of only Grant songs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:51 (nine years ago) link

My #1 was easy. But figuring out the rest is impossible.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 00:56 (nine years ago) link

Took three minutes to come up with a list that is 17 Grant, 3 Bob. All I need to do is determine an order.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:21 (nine years ago) link

Stanning for "Crystal" here. Scariest drug song this side of "Luv n' Haight." And it's the fucking opening track on their major label debut. Gotta love 'em for that.

mobs of burly teen christgaus (thewufs), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:22 (nine years ago) link

Here's a scan of my second-ever published review: Metal Circus, from a University of Toronto campus paper, 2/24/84. (Dug it up just for this thread.) Lots of special pleading, lots of adjectives, lots of clunky earnestness and lyric-quoting--I'm quite beside myself. I remember expressing befuddlement to the editor about the photo.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:24 (nine years ago) link

I don't think this is actually a nominations thread. Voting/campaigning here, results next thread.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:25 (nine years ago) link

But I could be wrong! I'm not the answer guy.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:25 (nine years ago) link

This is the 1 band I really want to get back together and do a nostalgia tour. They broke up a year or 2 before I got old enough to go see bands play live. Their records have aged so well, too.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:31 (nine years ago) link

I've wished that too (although I was lucky enough to have seen them in '87), but part of what made them so great was that they'd been playing constantly for a few years solid. It would be difficult-to-impossible for them to get near that level in a one-off situation.

Also, while Bob and Grant hate each other, they hate Greg even more.

5-Hour Enmity (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:38 (nine years ago) link

Here are some photos (by Mike Dyer) from a club show in '85 that I saw, a place called Larry's Hideaway:

http://www.thirdav.com/hd_discog/stills/s19850502.html

They played "Ticket to Ride" that night, and it was just the best thing ever. (Scanning faces, not seeing myself.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:43 (nine years ago) link

Scanning faces, I don't even see the drummer!

Nominations, lobbying, suggestions, throwing-it-out-there's, I don't know what you want to call it. I stole most of the intro from other poll threads.

pplains, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 01:56 (nine years ago) link

What song does Gotta Lotta POLLING to do reference? They have so many Poll-worthy song titles. You're A Polldier, I Apollagize, If I Polled You, etc.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:03 (nine years ago) link

Also, while Bob and Grant hate each other, they hate Greg even more.

First I've heard this! Why do they hate Greg?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:07 (nine years ago) link

Books about P.O.L.L.'s

50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:08 (nine years ago) link

It's Not Pollculiar
Pollerline

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:21 (nine years ago) link

I generally refrain from this craze, but: Bob Polled.

clemenza, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 02:23 (nine years ago) link

I voted almost all Hart, and almost all pop, but I love the AAARRRRGH! factor of Husker Du, too. Even by the standards of hardcore they were pretty fast and in your face. Land speed record, indeed.

Hmm, is "Land Speed Record" the closest thing to the elusive triple pun album title other than "12 Inches of Snow?"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:01 (nine years ago) link

I love Amusement!! I'm not easily amused by YOU.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:19 (nine years ago) link

I'm not easily amAAAAzed

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:35 (nine years ago) link

WHAT DO I WAAAANT?
WHAT'LL MAKE ME HAPPY?
(scream the two syllable word of your choice repeatedly)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzuIjnDJyY

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:41 (nine years ago) link

also lol @ that image
what do i want?
giant plate of food

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:43 (nine years ago) link

^^ voted for this song btw

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:50 (nine years ago) link

I love the version of ''You're So Square'' on here that turns into "The Wit & Wisdom".

Also, this blog corrects it, but on my boot at home, "Celebrated Summer" is listed as "Sons of Bitches".

http://captainsdead.com/husker-du-live-at-first-ave-8-28-85.html

pplains, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:56 (nine years ago) link

I click on this thread every morning feeling like a lonely freak who listens to hardcore Husker Du with regularity and has no interest in Zen Arcade onward

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:01 (nine years ago) link

Not the same, but my favorite Wilco record might be A.M.

pplains, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:07 (nine years ago) link

you are not a lonely freak
i like both sides but my heart belongs to noisy bob and spazzy grant

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:08 (nine years ago) link

I appreciate hardcore Du for velocity and sheer rush, but I was never a hardcore kid -- they only clicked with me when they started with the catchy tunes. My ballot is slightly Grant-heavy, but even the Bob stuff is the catchy stuff. Pop Du 4 life.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:09 (nine years ago) link

Which is to say, if they had been a band capable of LSR but not of "Books About UFOs," I doubt I would have cared much.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:10 (nine years ago) link

There was a thing on a blog a couple weeks ago where they rated every Mould record and they put Everything Falls Apart dead last and didn't even mention Land Speed Record

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:12 (nine years ago) link

I can understand loving Metal Circus more than Zen Arcade (I believe Steve Albini did), but I don't understand having "no interest" in ZA. What lost you?

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:15 (nine years ago) link

What?! That's awful. I'm not even all about LSR, but Everything Falls Apart is pure gold.

I will repeat: I hope someone else voted for From the Gut. To me, that is the shortest sweetest representation of what I love about this band. It's not the world's best song or anything, but it has the parts I want.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:16 (nine years ago) link

oops xp

(sorry)

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:16 (nine years ago) link

what do i want?
giant plate of food

Descendants lyrics, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:19 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-uLTTT3BPc

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:20 (nine years ago) link

Which is to say, if they had been a band capable of LSR but not of "Books About UFOs," I doubt I would have cared much.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:10 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is OTM.

and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:24 (nine years ago) link

I think people were more distraught (re that blog) abt Flip Your Wig being the best rated HD record and Copper Blue winning overall.

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:27 (nine years ago) link

Seriously? Copper Blue?

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:28 (nine years ago) link

HOWEVER
I just remembered that I wrote Bob Mould an embarrassing email fan letter when he first started blogging because I was just totally amazed that I finally had the chance to tell him in actual composed sentences how much his music meant to me. He very graciously wrote back! So I guess I only say "seriously?" because I think Copper Blue fails to represent the masterful variety of his songs even if it's a great pop record.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:38 (nine years ago) link

It was short, not all that embarrassing. Just super earnest :-/

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:39 (nine years ago) link

Yeah it was on a blog called "Stereogum".

I can understand loving Metal Circus more than Zen Arcade (I believe Steve Albini did), but I don't understand having "no interest" in ZA. What lost you?

This is not the right thread for me to really say so!

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:42 (nine years ago) link

The crunchy hardcore songs on side two of Zen Arcade are the best. Had trouble narrowing it down to just two of those tracks. BEYOND! THE! THRESHOLD!

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:55 (nine years ago) link

Zen Arcade re-sequenced as a hardcore EP entirely weeded of tuneful singing = still classic!

Husker Du, What's to Forget? EP

Side A:

Beyond The Threshold
Indecision Time
Pride

Side B:

I'll Never Forget You
What's Going On?

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:58 (nine years ago) link

"Reoccurring Dreams" is its own hardcore EP.

and I scream Fieri Eiffel Tower High (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:59 (nine years ago) link

Pride
a) stupid
b) selfish
c) all of the above
d) priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:06 (nine years ago) link

xpost on the crunchy hardcore. Totally otm. I used to skip that part back in the 80's, but now find it by far the best part of Zen Arcade. I'd add Masochism World to the "hardcore EP." I'm loving the weird rhythmic thing , and the way it's like half bash-it-out hardcore, but then it's got Who backing vocals in the middle. FWIW, What's Going On was my #1.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:12 (nine years ago) link

I think people were more distraught (re that blog) abt Flip Your Wig being the best rated HD record and Copper Blue winning overall.

Haaa. FYW is my favorite HD album. And Bob Mould's too, I think!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:14 (nine years ago) link

(not that we should put too much stock in Cranky Bob's view of anything Du-related.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:14 (nine years ago) link

xp: "What's Going On?" was my #2.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:16 (nine years ago) link

@ Pete see you figured it out

in an English way (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:37 (nine years ago) link

Thing I love about Pride is the way it sounds like someone is winding up a spring and then letting it spin during each line of the verses.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:40 (nine years ago) link

Calming Lechera's nerves, I will mention that I voted "From the Gut". High up, even. One of those songs where I can still remember the needle hitting the groove for the first time; my mom's cheapie all-in-one turntable, autumn light streaming through her apartment's picture window, no one else at home.

bendy, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:15 (nine years ago) link

I'm too young to have ever seen Husker Du, but did anyone see Dwight Yoakam opening up in 1986?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:24 (nine years ago) link

A reminder that the deadline for voting in this poll ends in a few hours.

I haven't checked today, but I know as of last night, we had 12-15 ballots submitted.

That said, I'm meeting some family members for pre-Thanksgiving and likely won't be home until 7 or 8 pm CST (0100-0200 GMT). If any ballots trickle in during that time, who would I be to turn them away.

pplains, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:14 (nine years ago) link

thank you bendy
it's in my top 5!!

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 22:20 (nine years ago) link

I'm too young to have ever seen Husker Du, but did anyone see Dwight Yoakam opening up in 1986?

No, but I saw them in 1987 with The Shamen supporting, bit of a mismatch really.

~ (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:30 (nine years ago) link

that sounds like a nightmare!

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:44 (nine years ago) link

Deadline for submissions officially in 15 mins.

pplains, Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:46 (nine years ago) link

Vote! If nothing else, dilute the impact my ballot has on this, heh.

etc, Thursday, 22 November 2012 02:55 (nine years ago) link

Just out of curiosity, how is this anyway? A couple of intriguing band/song combinations (Walt Mink, Janitor Joe). I remember seeing this in shops, but never bit. It's not on Spotify...

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Du-Huskers-The-Twin-Cities-Replays-Zen-Arcade/release/752123

dlp9001, Thursday, 22 November 2012 03:47 (nine years ago) link

The only one I remember vividly is the Pink Turns To Blue cover which was damn near Bangles' Hazy Shade of Winter Pt. II. I liked it.

pplains, Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:28 (nine years ago) link

Exactly 90 songs were submitted and voted upon. I know I said let's do 33, but how about we amend that to 30. It'll still be 33-percent. Ties be damned.

25 ballots were received. If you did not get a response from me, please let me know as soon as possible.

Now.. let's see... hmmm. Anyone here ever used a spreadsheet before?

pplains, Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:44 (nine years ago) link

Were you able to figure out something? If you're stuck, let me know--I could probably tabulate 25 ballots/500 songs in an hour or so.

clemenza, Friday, 23 November 2012 22:10 (nine years ago) link

Ranked them all at No. 11.

pplains, Saturday, 24 November 2012 02:21 (nine years ago) link

Seeing that it was a direct and very representative portent of Things To Come (much more so than the one-off Statues, which was very PiL), it seems insane there's no studio recording of Amusement.

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 24 November 2012 03:20 (nine years ago) link

Getting geeked for this.

Probably will start the new thread in the morning, Tulsa Time, with the albums and band members. Then begin with the top 1/3 sometime around 1300 CST/1900 GMT.

pplains, Monday, 26 November 2012 02:57 (nine years ago) link

Gotta Make Polls for the Polls I Make - ILM HUSKER DU POLL RESULTS

pplains, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:55 (nine years ago) link


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