love caramanica on this. "there was a period time when there were 4 big rap blogs that were all named for cam'ron lyrics."
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
ahahaha
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
def lolled at that too
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
Wait so let me get this straight; dude has an Instagram account for pictures of his daughter, ergo that makes him the most publicly-devoted father in all of hip-hop?
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md6qqepRIf1qal6mc.gif
― markers, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
Cheif
― NINO CARTER, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
is that chris ott?
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― markers, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
man he looks terrible
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
cheif keef is a good googleproof tho
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
my analogy about pipsqueak dayo from the other day is now me while listening to this podcast
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
it's almost as if there's a missing link here
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― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
omg @ ott.gif
― al gould everything (crüt), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
well they do mention you and your review by name and mention they couldn't afford to fly you out for it
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like the entire first half of this conversation is being held between two aliens
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
lol i'm still only at the point where i'm referred to as "the critic"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
screen name
― mookieproof, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ddsTo.jpg
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
lol thats bdot tho
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
"It stinks."
omg b.dot is killing this, the conversation about "Citgo" is hilarious
"If I say Pig Latin on the record, on that same beat, does that make it hot?"
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
"But if you are in your mid-20s-""I am in my mid-20s."
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, January 11, 2013 3:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
maybe!
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
"content director of rap radar" is the most hilarious shit i've ever heard
ask missy elliott
#fremmeneppevenette
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
the idea that bdot is 'killing this' is hilarious
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
his entire argument is based on the idea that jordan was making out some hidden meaning to keef's lyrics which jordan never actually argues
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
i think jon makes a good argument although i'd make the argument that lyrically of COURSE keef's stuff is extremely literal in meaning, thats what makes it good lyrically. it's not trying to be 'deep' its just about what its about
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
http://karmajello.com/postcont/2012/09/you-want-it-one-way-marlo-the-wire.jpg
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
of course you think Jon is making a good argument, you like the album and have been bending over backwards to describe Keef as a formidable talent
B.Dot is arguing that, unlike practically every other person in hip-hop who has been celebrated as a formidable talent in the history of the genre, Keef's songs are illiterate bullshit, and claiming otherwise shows a disconnect in the values of what makes hip-hop great.
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
smh
― flopson, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
or maybe acting as if those values are the only values by which hip hop can be measured a great are outdated
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
keef is not at all outside those values, though. we've been over this w/ how rappers rap before. people argued about it with too short
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
and those people look stupid
i think its wrong to argue, btw, that the lyrics 'dont matter' to keef's appeal b/c i think people like him for his direct & to the point lyrics
i think bdot doesnt bother to listen to the words keef is actually saying
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
i love how j0rdan has a handle on this and then deej comes in like the people in that mr show sketch about the armless drummer
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
what the fuck are you talking about
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, January 11, 2013 3:09 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what if you farted on it instead?
― 乒乓, Friday, 11 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
B.Dot is arguing that, unlike practically every other person in hip-hop who has been celebrated as a formidable talent in the history of the genre, Keef's songs are illiterate bullshit, and claiming otherwise shows a disconnect in the values of what makes hip-hop great.― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, January 11, 2013 3:22 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkor maybe acting as if those values are the only values by which hip hop can be measured a great are outdated― J0rdan S., Friday, January 11, 2013 3:24 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, January 11, 2013 3:22 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― J0rdan S., Friday, January 11, 2013 3:24 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes. thank you.
keef is not at all outside those values, though.― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, January 11, 2013 3:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, January 11, 2013 3:25 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AckxOWz868k/0.jpg
YOU'RE NOT HELPING!
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
its just that the 'pro-' argument that says 'sometimes keef is terrible at rapping' is 1) setting up standards for rapping that i don't think keef is even trying to meet, and 2) is too reminiscent of those stupid articles that fetishized the 'croak' of wayne's voice and said stuff like 'it doesn't even matter what he's saying'
what keef is saying is important to why keef's music is interesting
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
i'm saying a defense of his music needs to look at the entirety of its effect instead of like 'oh he chose that one cloud-rap beat and that was cool' is a good reason for saying he's a great artist
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
A fuck nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nahA snitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nahA bitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nahSneak dissers that's that shit I don't likeDon't like, like, don't like, likeA snitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nahDon't like, like, don't like, likeA bitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nah[Verse 1: Chief Keef]A popped bitch, that's that shit I don't likeI got a bad bitch, yeah that bitch rightWe smoke dope all day, all nightYou smoke Reggie, that's that shit I don't likeWe got a fucking Audi, that bitch all whitePull up on your bitch, bet she gonna likeSosa bitch, yeah, I done gon' hypePistol toting and I'm shooting on sightA snitch nigga, that's that shit I don't likeYour bitch want do the team bet she won't fightBitch, we GBE -- fuck who don't likeAnd we ain't gon' fight, our guns gon' fight[Hook][Verse 2: Chief Keef]Fake Trues that's that shit I don't likeFake shoes, that's that shit I don't likeFake niggas, that's that shit I don't likeStalking ass bitch, shit I don't likeI done got indicted selling all whiteBut I won't never snitch none in my lifeI keep this shit 3hunna bitch, I'm going rightWhere my niggas when it's time to start taking lifesPlaying both sides, shit that I don't likeWartime spark broad day, all nightPlaying both sides, shit that I don't likeWartime spark broad day, all night[Hook][Verse 3: Lil Reese]I'm telling these niggas shit that they don't likeBroski got the 30, he ain't tryina fightGot your bitch out here in it all nightFredo in the cut, that's a scary sightYou not with the six you can die tonightI only want the top, I ain't tryna pipeThem younguns with the shits they be toting pipeFloating off at flat, I might take flight3hunna bitch we hot, we done took flightTaking shit down, we ain't like the priceThirsty ass bitches shit that we don't likeOTFGBE yo bitch like
A snitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nahA bitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nahSneak dissers that's that shit I don't likeDon't like, like, don't like, likeA snitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nahDon't like, like, don't like, likeA bitch nigga, that's that shit I don't like, nah
[Verse 1: Chief Keef]A popped bitch, that's that shit I don't likeI got a bad bitch, yeah that bitch rightWe smoke dope all day, all nightYou smoke Reggie, that's that shit I don't likeWe got a fucking Audi, that bitch all whitePull up on your bitch, bet she gonna likeSosa bitch, yeah, I done gon' hypePistol toting and I'm shooting on sightA snitch nigga, that's that shit I don't likeYour bitch want do the team bet she won't fightBitch, we GBE -- fuck who don't likeAnd we ain't gon' fight, our guns gon' fight
[Hook]
[Verse 2: Chief Keef]Fake Trues that's that shit I don't likeFake shoes, that's that shit I don't likeFake niggas, that's that shit I don't likeStalking ass bitch, shit I don't likeI done got indicted selling all whiteBut I won't never snitch none in my lifeI keep this shit 3hunna bitch, I'm going rightWhere my niggas when it's time to start taking lifesPlaying both sides, shit that I don't likeWartime spark broad day, all nightPlaying both sides, shit that I don't likeWartime spark broad day, all night
[Verse 3: Lil Reese]I'm telling these niggas shit that they don't likeBroski got the 30, he ain't tryina fightGot your bitch out here in it all nightFredo in the cut, that's a scary sightYou not with the six you can die tonightI only want the top, I ain't tryna pipeThem younguns with the shits they be toting pipeFloating off at flat, I might take flight3hunna bitch we hot, we done took flightTaking shit down, we ain't like the priceThirsty ass bitches shit that we don't likeOTFGBE yo bitch like
hmm yes, very interesting
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
LOL
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
you dont think the meaning of those words in the context of music feeds into what makes the song work?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
those are good lyrics
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 January 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
xpost LOOOOOL
that he could just be singing nonsense words and we'd still like it because young chop is great?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
pretty much any comparison to a classic "simple" or "not lyrical" rapper does Keef about as many favors as if you compare him to Nas.
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
I would think some thought went into this if this was all done over a loop of "Waiting on the Robert E Lee"
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link