Finally Rich - Chief Keef

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Is anyone else excited for this release? how do you guys rate keef atm? I'm not certain if the wikipedia page is correct but all of the tracks which are supposedly confirmed sound great to me! Young Chop is producing once again and it sounds like he is in fine form. looking forward to juicy j and chief keef collab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJqbcJUmQs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyHZNBz6FE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ossSWj17Jnk

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 03:20 (eight years ago) link

Not to harsh your buzz, but this guy's affect is so flat it's a wonder he's still alive.

Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 11 November 2012 05:09 (eight years ago) link

haha.. i find that to be part of his appeal... i found this article really good , gives an insight into the kind of world which keef lives in.. (http://www.thefader.com/2012/08/21/chief-keef-lost-boys/)
"The people around him may be trying their best, but it’s clear someone stopped raising him long before he needed to be finished being raised."

keef is one of chicagos zombie youth - to me his lack of emotional engagement is what makes his music unsettling.

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 05:52 (eight years ago) link

Gonna get boring fast if he turns into rapping a kit shopping.

cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:33 (eight years ago) link

about shopping

cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:34 (eight years ago) link

i guess the value of that is in the eye of the beholder BUT you can't on the one hand defend keef against heavy criticism because he just raps about his life/environment and then turn around and say that he should still be rapping about that stuff even tho he got himself out

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:36 (eight years ago) link

yeh.. word.. i'm curious, what do you personally think of keefs form/potential in the lead up to his big release?

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:48 (eight years ago) link

and i suppose in that case you could still criticise him on the basis of the kind of environment he is choosing to surround himself with , and the kind of insight and relationship he has with that environment

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:54 (eight years ago) link

hang on.. its not so much the environment hes in.. but the way he relates to and his music explores the environment

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:56 (eight years ago) link

if that makes any sense

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:56 (eight years ago) link

'explores' is definitely too heavy of a word for keef

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 07:02 (eight years ago) link

I just want a great album. We'll take it from there.

weak willie (longneck), Sunday, 11 November 2012 08:35 (eight years ago) link

Not to harsh your buzz, but this guy's affect is so flat it's a wonder he's still alive.

― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah getting soulja boy flashbacks over here, "love sosa" is much like "turn my swag on" where i'm like hmmm this might do something for me if an engineer had said 'ok one more take -- with feeling!'

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:38 (eight years ago) link

Turn My Swag On is so far ahead of anything Keef has done - I don't find Soulja Boy a flat performer at all, he has a crucial energy that Keef lacks

lex pretend, Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:45 (eight years ago) link

I find the idea that 'I Don't Like' lacks energy a strange one.

pandemic, Sunday, 11 November 2012 14:31 (eight years ago) link

I find the idea that Chief Keef should rap with more energy and feeling a strange one.

weak willie (longneck), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:03 (eight years ago) link

well i was talking specifically about "Love Sosa" not his whole oeuvre

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:46 (eight years ago) link

"turn my swag on" is probably better than anything keef has ever done, yeah

flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:10 (eight years ago) link

but really... who's keeping score amirite?

flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:13 (eight years ago) link

every interview w/him is all 'lol teenagers'

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:16 (eight years ago) link

I mean, to be fair, there's been at least one early single of his that was ok

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 12 November 2012 02:16 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

so yeah, this album is really good. Now I understand why Interscope stood by him.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 18:22 (eight years ago) link

he's gonna be around for a bit

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:23 (eight years ago) link

yeah, that seems certain now. And I have mixed feelings about that, but damn, if he can make an album like this at age 17, maybe he deserves to.

I get the Flockaveli comparisons to an extent, but for me the big difference is Flocka is very charismatic in his way, and he brings a fun energy. Keef is just vile dude with a bitter presence. Kind of amazing he parlayed that into such an effective album.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 18:26 (eight years ago) link

he's a much better artist than anyone ever gave him credit for. very clearly not just riding on the tails of "i don't like" but slowly pushing his sound outward

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:28 (eight years ago) link

i don't find keef that "vile" or "bitter" at all... like, he often sounds like he's taking glee in playing the "part" of a "rapper" on his songs, a kid who grew up listening to 50 cent inhabiting that role... like there's a lot of "fun energy" that you claim waka has, evan, in keef's music for me. he sounds fucking stoked to be rapping... am i the only one who feels this way?

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:47 (eight years ago) link

or maybe not stoked to be rapping as much as making rap songs, if that makes any sense at all...

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:47 (eight years ago) link

I understand what you're saying. Keef is obviously engaged, and enjoying what he does—the record would be miserable if he didn't. But I don't sense the same "I'm loving every fucking minute of this" release from him that I do from Flocka. He takes a much more austere posture.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:03 (eight years ago) link

he's gonna be around for a bit

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 14, 2012 1:23 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Lol

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:53 (eight years ago) link

ha; Al's word choices are always so vivid. Love it.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:12 (eight years ago) link

i usually don't mix that many metaphors tbh but i had just woken up from a nap

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:18 (eight years ago) link

it's ok, they all land

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:26 (eight years ago) link

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 2:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i assume you'll be catching on right around then

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 21:09 (eight years ago) link

where is this sudden meme about waka being joyous and charismatic coming from

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:02 (eight years ago) link

like you guys are thinking of his PETA ads and not his actual musical output

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:02 (eight years ago) link

his personality is that way & his music has trended that way at times since flockaveli but flockaveli is not that way at all

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:03 (eight years ago) link

look at waka in the 'live by the gun' video & tell me hes not as or more detached & dead-eyed than keef has ever been

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:04 (eight years ago) link

haha brutal zing j0rd

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:05 (eight years ago) link

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:06 (eight years ago) link

lol pulling grinning sorry for typo

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:06 (eight years ago) link

deej makes an important distinction tho

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:07 (eight years ago) link

at least as far as flockaveli goes

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:08 (eight years ago) link

keef may take the same track as he continues to isolate himself from the streets... i mean his grimmest tracks are certainly the earliest

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:08 (eight years ago) link

citgo is so good. it's the song soulja boy should of made.

tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:09 (eight years ago) link

'zan with that lean' era soulja boy that is

tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:10 (eight years ago) link

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 4:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which? the one that springs to mind is the one with keef, who is also grinning.

to me what is interesting about keef's style is that it is at once 'deadened' as ppl have described its ... detached-ness, but projected. Like, his voice jumps forward. I feel like for most rappers when you try to put that kind of energy in it, you lose that detached 'cool' cf pusha t in 2012

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:11 (eight years ago) link

all of them besides 'live by the gun' iirc? like waka was hilarious in the 'bingo' video and that was one of his first big looks.

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:12 (eight years ago) link

well it's not like the "i don't like" or "3hunna" videos depict a sad or detached keef. it's a different conversation.

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:14 (eight years ago) link

yeah i'm not sure why videos were brought up to begin with just thought d-40's trying to hard w/ the waka video example

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:16 (eight years ago) link

#nylmatic

dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:31 (seven years ago) link

#3Hunniola

Divvy Bikes to Watch Out For (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:44 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I did a search for Keef's "Almighty SO" album and found nothing. Anyway I can't stop listening to it.

C.A. Hall (C.A.H.OOTS), Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:15 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj8BZGP15g4

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 3 March 2014 18:51 (seven years ago) link

Best Buy bonus track from this album was fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IduVvrgKiqc

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 3 March 2014 19:52 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

that's so stupid

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:16 (seven years ago) link

viral fail

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:16 (seven years ago) link

def thought that was gonna be a stitches post

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:35 (seven years ago) link

just found out this guy is facebook friends with me smh

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:14 (seven years ago) link

yung lean was the white keef anyway

whatchutola khomeini (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:16 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxPu15m6kuA

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 03:15 (seven years ago) link

lol'd at the "up his ass goes the pool cue" line

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 12:50 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

best rapper of all time

Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:42 (five years ago) link

indisputably true

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:49 (five years ago) link

^ gets it

Treeship, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 05:12 (five years ago) link

rereading this thread made my eye fidget

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 27 July 2016 01:20 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

absolutely fantastic that people are now saying blueface is "no keef" because he can't stay on beat:

hes no keef,thug or uzi tho dude is a parody of a rapper at best who cant stay on beat.

— Lee (@FollowMMisery) December 11, 2018

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:46 (two years ago) link

his new one is more in that playboi carti zone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w6X_B9nVPg

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 12 December 2018 06:55 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

«I don’t like» still pretty intense

Mule, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:19 (two months ago) link

new song popped up on Spotify in my release radar, but I was wondering....like what is the deal with Keef? Just seem like he was ascendant and really seen as a big new voice in hip hop and he kinda...quit trying? (at least from the outside)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:21 (two months ago) link

Yeah, haven’t really followed him that close, but never got the impression that he really delivered on the promise. He left Chicago, may have something to do with it (though it was probably good for him)

Mule, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:25 (two months ago) link

he was gonna drop an album with mike will, and the two singles he dropped off that were incredibly good, but that rollout seems to have fizzled out

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:31 (two months ago) link

hes had some hits that were not so much radio hits but did big streaming numbers, and made a lot of weird but not always great music, seems like he kinda just follows his muse and doesnt really care otherwise

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:48 (two months ago) link

he also made a lot of his own beats which were often weird and not that technically proficient, he basically became a diy artist after getting dropped

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:50 (two months ago) link

wouldve been cool if he couldve stayed in the pocket a lil more oh well

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 18:56 (two months ago) link

He's had some huge hits. He's had problems with labels. He's invented styles. His music has been leaked. He's been the most influential rapper in the last 10 years.

He's a legend.

ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:03 (two months ago) link

deej is that you

lag∞n, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 20:26 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUl99v4I_60

Hard as fuck

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 07:25 (two weeks ago) link

Sisilafami is right. I talk to young artists daily who, in 2021, say Chief keef is who inspired them to rap

He’s the most influential artist of the decade and had an immeasurable impact

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 07:27 (two weeks ago) link

I really hate !! The contention that his post major label stuff was just weird off brand experiments and bad diy self production. It’s underestimating it’s broad popular appeal, while simultaneously overvaluing the quality of the samey saturation of streaming rap in the last few years

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 07:51 (two weeks ago) link

whatever happened to that project he was making with mike will? both singles were excellent

bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 14:29 (two weeks ago) link

No idea. I thought they were just ok. Like this new song more honestly.

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 15:30 (two weeks ago) link

Thinking about joe's posts is driving me nuts lol. "stayed in the pocket" he invented the fucking pocket

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 18:02 (two weeks ago) link

lmao he shouldve stayed in it after he invented it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:46 (two weeks ago) link

in all seriousness i do respect the way keef has been out there doing his art but i prefer the early stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:51 (two weeks ago) link

new song is a banger tho, it's true

bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:04 (two weeks ago) link

hes def had some nice songs the only ones i can say i actively dislike are from his owl city period

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:09 (two weeks ago) link

in all seriousness i do respect the way keef has been out there doing his art but i prefer the early stuff

― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:51 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

the stuff casual fans like, the dont like and love sosas etc., that stuff is iconic but definitely not his best stuff. its also not the stuff uzi, 21, carti, etc. built their sounds off of. its not surprising ppl undervalue his influence when they dont even know the records. but yea, his tapes after finally rich are way way better than the stuff "most people" know.

Also among actual rap fans its the records from the mid-later period that are most well known these days anyway...faneto, earned it, text, my baby, facts, kills, those are more iconic singles at this point ... and tapes like bang2, almightyso, back from the dead 2, nobody, dedication are >>> finally rich. they're not 'weird experiments,' everyone needs to stop biting 8 year old noz tweets, they're just great rap projects, w more ideas per song than the average stretched-too-thing-recorded-too-long pain rap tape today

the shit that rips off that period -- 'we dem boyz' type music -- is the fuckin worst

i assume by 'owl city period' you mean thot breaker which is a dope tape, just corny bc it got twee pitchfork support & is somehow his highest rated album. its not bad at all though, there are classic tracks on it

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:36 (one week ago) link

*stretched-too-thin-recorded-too-long pain rap tape

**the shit that rips off the finally rich early period -- we dem boyz type music -- is the fuckin worst

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:37 (one week ago) link

 among actual rap fans

hope to meet one someday

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:58 (one week ago) link

so like does he rap off beat on purpose

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:59 (one week ago) link

just to go back 7 years in the convo

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:59 (one week ago) link

deej does deserve his victory lap, keef did become as influential as he predicted, not that's he's one for "I told you so's"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 03:08 (one week ago) link

lol

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 03:22 (one week ago) link

True it’s important ilx maintains condescension levels

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:01 (one week ago) link

I was being serious except for the last line

you were right and we (or I specifically) was wrong! he ended up being that important

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:12 (one week ago) link

"they're not 'weird experiments,(...) they're just great rap projects"

This is not mutually exclusive. BFTD2 is weird.
Keef has also a huge influence on hyperpop.

ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:25 (one week ago) link

Feel like you’re misunderstanding me — of course they’re creative & experimental but not imo in some way that’s somehow exceptional to rap artists when they’re in a creative zone generally. The exception w him is id say the frequency of the ideas, there’s room for a lot more variation & surprise as a result.

What joe said was “I do respect the way he’s out there doing his art” before dismissing that art out of hand, I think ppl tend to stigmatize stuff as weird that isn’t like … outsider art or some shit. It’s redefined the boundaries of the genre, of what is considered “normal”

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:37 (one week ago) link


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