Finally Rich - Chief Keef

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

Is anyone else excited for this release? how do you guys rate keef atm? I'm not certain if the wikipedia page is correct but all of the tracks which are supposedly confirmed sound great to me! Young Chop is producing once again and it sounds like he is in fine form. looking forward to juicy j and chief keef collab.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJqbcJUmQs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyHZNBz6FE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ossSWj17Jnk

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 03:20 (eleven years ago) link

Not to harsh your buzz, but this guy's affect is so flat it's a wonder he's still alive.

Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 11 November 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link

haha.. i find that to be part of his appeal... i found this article really good , gives an insight into the kind of world which keef lives in.. (http://www.thefader.com/2012/08/21/chief-keef-lost-boys/)
"The people around him may be trying their best, but it’s clear someone stopped raising him long before he needed to be finished being raised."

keef is one of chicagos zombie youth - to me his lack of emotional engagement is what makes his music unsettling.

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 05:52 (eleven years ago) link

Gonna get boring fast if he turns into rapping a kit shopping.

cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:33 (eleven years ago) link

about shopping

cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:34 (eleven years ago) link

i guess the value of that is in the eye of the beholder BUT you can't on the one hand defend keef against heavy criticism because he just raps about his life/environment and then turn around and say that he should still be rapping about that stuff even tho he got himself out

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:36 (eleven years ago) link

yeh.. word.. i'm curious, what do you personally think of keefs form/potential in the lead up to his big release?

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:48 (eleven years ago) link

and i suppose in that case you could still criticise him on the basis of the kind of environment he is choosing to surround himself with , and the kind of insight and relationship he has with that environment

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:54 (eleven years ago) link

hang on.. its not so much the environment hes in.. but the way he relates to and his music explores the environment

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:56 (eleven years ago) link

if that makes any sense

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:56 (eleven years ago) link

'explores' is definitely too heavy of a word for keef

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 07:02 (eleven years ago) link

I just want a great album. We'll take it from there.

weak willie (longneck), Sunday, 11 November 2012 08:35 (eleven years ago) link

Not to harsh your buzz, but this guy's affect is so flat it's a wonder he's still alive.

― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah getting soulja boy flashbacks over here, "love sosa" is much like "turn my swag on" where i'm like hmmm this might do something for me if an engineer had said 'ok one more take -- with feeling!'

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link

Turn My Swag On is so far ahead of anything Keef has done - I don't find Soulja Boy a flat performer at all, he has a crucial energy that Keef lacks

lex pretend, Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

I find the idea that 'I Don't Like' lacks energy a strange one.

pandemic, Sunday, 11 November 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

I find the idea that Chief Keef should rap with more energy and feeling a strange one.

weak willie (longneck), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

well i was talking specifically about "Love Sosa" not his whole oeuvre

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

"turn my swag on" is probably better than anything keef has ever done, yeah

flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

but really... who's keeping score amirite?

flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

every interview w/him is all 'lol teenagers'

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, to be fair, there's been at least one early single of his that was ok

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 12 November 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

so yeah, this album is really good. Now I understand why Interscope stood by him.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

he's gonna be around for a bit

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, that seems certain now. And I have mixed feelings about that, but damn, if he can make an album like this at age 17, maybe he deserves to.

I get the Flockaveli comparisons to an extent, but for me the big difference is Flocka is very charismatic in his way, and he brings a fun energy. Keef is just vile dude with a bitter presence. Kind of amazing he parlayed that into such an effective album.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

he's a much better artist than anyone ever gave him credit for. very clearly not just riding on the tails of "i don't like" but slowly pushing his sound outward

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

i don't find keef that "vile" or "bitter" at all... like, he often sounds like he's taking glee in playing the "part" of a "rapper" on his songs, a kid who grew up listening to 50 cent inhabiting that role... like there's a lot of "fun energy" that you claim waka has, evan, in keef's music for me. he sounds fucking stoked to be rapping... am i the only one who feels this way?

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

or maybe not stoked to be rapping as much as making rap songs, if that makes any sense at all...

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

I understand what you're saying. Keef is obviously engaged, and enjoying what he does—the record would be miserable if he didn't. But I don't sense the same "I'm loving every fucking minute of this" release from him that I do from Flocka. He takes a much more austere posture.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

he's gonna be around for a bit

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 14, 2012 1:23 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

Lol

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

ha; Al's word choices are always so vivid. Love it.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

i usually don't mix that many metaphors tbh but i had just woken up from a nap

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

it's ok, they all land

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 2:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i assume you'll be catching on right around then

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

where is this sudden meme about waka being joyous and charismatic coming from

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

like you guys are thinking of his PETA ads and not his actual musical output

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

his personality is that way & his music has trended that way at times since flockaveli but flockaveli is not that way at all

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

look at waka in the 'live by the gun' video & tell me hes not as or more detached & dead-eyed than keef has ever been

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

haha brutal zing j0rd

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

lol pulling grinning sorry for typo

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

deej makes an important distinction tho

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

at least as far as flockaveli goes

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

keef may take the same track as he continues to isolate himself from the streets... i mean his grimmest tracks are certainly the earliest

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

citgo is so good. it's the song soulja boy should of made.

tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

'zan with that lean' era soulja boy that is

tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 4:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which? the one that springs to mind is the one with keef, who is also grinning.

to me what is interesting about keef's style is that it is at once 'deadened' as ppl have described its ... detached-ness, but projected. Like, his voice jumps forward. I feel like for most rappers when you try to put that kind of energy in it, you lose that detached 'cool' cf pusha t in 2012

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

all of them besides 'live by the gun' iirc? like waka was hilarious in the 'bingo' video and that was one of his first big looks.

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

well it's not like the "i don't like" or "3hunna" videos depict a sad or detached keef. it's a different conversation.

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm not sure why videos were brought up to begin with just thought d-40's trying to hard w/ the waka video example

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

No idea. I thought they were just ok. Like this new song more honestly.

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

Thinking about joe's posts is driving me nuts lol. "stayed in the pocket" he invented the fucking pocket

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

lmao he shouldve stayed in it after he invented it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link

in all seriousness i do respect the way keef has been out there doing his art but i prefer the early stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

new song is a banger tho, it's true

bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

hes def had some nice songs the only ones i can say i actively dislike are from his owl city period

lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 July 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

in all seriousness i do respect the way keef has been out there doing his art but i prefer the early stuff

― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 14, 2021 10:51 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

the stuff casual fans like, the dont like and love sosas etc., that stuff is iconic but definitely not his best stuff. its also not the stuff uzi, 21, carti, etc. built their sounds off of. its not surprising ppl undervalue his influence when they dont even know the records. but yea, his tapes after finally rich are way way better than the stuff "most people" know.

Also among actual rap fans its the records from the mid-later period that are most well known these days anyway...faneto, earned it, text, my baby, facts, kills, those are more iconic singles at this point ... and tapes like bang2, almightyso, back from the dead 2, nobody, dedication are >>> finally rich. they're not 'weird experiments,' everyone needs to stop biting 8 year old noz tweets, they're just great rap projects, w more ideas per song than the average stretched-too-thing-recorded-too-long pain rap tape today

the shit that rips off that period -- 'we dem boyz' type music -- is the fuckin worst

i assume by 'owl city period' you mean thot breaker which is a dope tape, just corny bc it got twee pitchfork support & is somehow his highest rated album. its not bad at all though, there are classic tracks on it

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:36 (two years ago) link

*stretched-too-thin-recorded-too-long pain rap tape

**the shit that rips off the finally rich early period -- we dem boyz type music -- is the fuckin worst

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

 among actual rap fans

hope to meet one someday

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link

so like does he rap off beat on purpose

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link

just to go back 7 years in the convo

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link

deej does deserve his victory lap, keef did become as influential as he predicted, not that's he's one for "I told you so's"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 03:08 (two years ago) link

lol

making splashes at Dan Flashes (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 03:22 (two years ago) link

True it’s important ilx maintains condescension levels

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:01 (two years ago) link

I was being serious except for the last line

you were right and we (or I specifically) was wrong! he ended up being that important

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link

"they're not 'weird experiments,(...) they're just great rap projects"

This is not mutually exclusive. BFTD2 is weird.
Keef has also a huge influence on hyperpop.

ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link

Feel like you’re misunderstanding me — of course they’re creative & experimental but not imo in some way that’s somehow exceptional to rap artists when they’re in a creative zone generally. The exception w him is id say the frequency of the ideas, there’s room for a lot more variation & surprise as a result.

What joe said was “I do respect the way he’s out there doing his art” before dismissing that art out of hand, I think ppl tend to stigmatize stuff as weird that isn’t like … outsider art or some shit. It’s redefined the boundaries of the genre, of what is considered “normal”

xheugy eddy (D-40), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i domt see how you can say his later work is more influential when there are literal english making right drill music mate, ALSO idk why i am the one being attacked here when i have always been supportive of keefs artistic flights of fancy

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 August 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

i even like his aggressively avant garde work that only ticktok teens can understand but still i prob wouldve enjoyed a more direct career trajectory from bang through finally rich and so on, theres def an interesting path not chosen there, particularly i really like how he used his voice early on, in some ways he became a more conventional rapper after that, somewhat compensating by adopting a loosey goosey style

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 August 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

UK drill & NY drill were initially impacted by Keef in obvious ways (ie the first GS9 tape has flips of Keef's post-Finally Rich song "Pull Up") but the main blueprint for the sound is Lil Herb & Bibby's "Kill Shit." Which in Chicago was kind of a brief window / angle of the sound around DJ L's production.

The way in which Keef's post-Finally Rich sound was influential is much more around Bang 2 & the loosies from that 2013-2015 period, and its influence isn't so much on 'drill' the way its conceived in ny/uk as much as rappers like uzi, kodak, 21, xxx, playboi carti, et al

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 9 August 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link

imo he made his voice *more* interesting not less after "Finally Rich" -- on FR he was doing that style where his voice casually rides the beat, sounds like Gucci Mane but his voice pops more to the front of the speaker where Gucci was kind of demur. But then he did that looser more aggressive attack & that's when his voice became way more malleable & started experimenting w/ darker melodies & textures & IMO showed much more the possibilities for vocal stylings that other artists picked up and ran off with

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 9 August 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

new song is titanically great, goddamn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f36hvoQ-bCs

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 August 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

aoty

devvvine, Monday, 5 December 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

Mexicans in Chicago ✅✅ pic.twitter.com/K4qDsQap4B

— El Sol Sale Pa Todos (@frijoliz) December 5, 2022

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

posted briefly in the other keef thread, on third listen... aoty

devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 14:39 (two months ago) link

could easily list 10 or so highlights for this one. "neph nem," "grape trees," "treat myself," "i'm tryna sleep," "believe," "drifting away"

all self-produced too

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 15:24 (two months ago) link

lol @ chief sosa made drill, kanye think he did too

devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 15:33 (two months ago) link

ha yeah i've been playing "drifting away" enough for the past 24 hours or so that my wife is already like "this fuckin song again"

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 15:49 (two months ago) link

7000 square feet n**** come from a damn cubicle!

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 15:53 (two months ago) link

almighty so 2 is amazing but dirty nachos was just as good imo don’t sleep on it

flopson, Friday, 10 May 2024 16:15 (two months ago) link

dirty nachos was a lot of fun, production is not on the same level tho.

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 16:17 (two months ago) link

he raps his ass off on both, to be sure

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 16:23 (two months ago) link

this is cool

Chief Keef sat down for an extremely rare interview with Zane Lowe to promote Almighty So 2.

Now 29, Sosa discusses what it was like to blow up at 16 years old and how his life has changed since. Beautiful to see. pic.twitter.com/WfuPP9Sxmq

— Andrew Barber (@fakeshoredrive) May 9, 2024

I'm mad keen to hear the new one if it's a return to his best form.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 May 2024 17:32 (two months ago) link

"drifting away" is incredible. i love how he references cash money, cam'ron, gucci & kanye. the first time i was listening to it before he shouts out kanye's beats it was making me think of "let the beat build," which is ofc a kanye beat. anyway keef is a pivotal figure in the history of rap and i love that despite being positioned by a lot of people w/ in rap culture as a destroyer of all things sacred he actually knows his artistic lineage better than a lot of his critics do.

truck sit up like a cowboy
i think i got more cars than every member of the hot boys
and we got broomsticks, hogwarts
and i ain't worried about the opps we don't fly the same airport

insanely good rapping on this song

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 May 2024 19:51 (two months ago) link

first couple listens i thought he was saying he wanted to beat kanye's ass

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Saturday, 11 May 2024 01:49 (two months ago) link

another really good interview: https://www.grammy.com/news/chief-keef-almighty-so-2-new-album-interview

had no idea that was fabo yelling on the "almighty" intro

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 16:44 (one month ago) link

I love this. “I start wearing yellow diamonds, it look like I peed myself” -- lol.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 17:47 (one month ago) link

very moving reading that article seeing what a good place he is and how restless his creative mindset is after the amount of terrible shit which got put on his shoulders and how patronising a lot of the early coverage of him was. love that he is still listening to mixtape gucci all the time.

devvvine, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 09:07 (one month ago) link

posted briefly in the other keef thread, on third listen... aoty

― devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 15:39 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

will double down on this too

devvvine, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 09:07 (one month ago) link

"believe" is so cool

ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 12:12 (one month ago) link

from that grammys interview:

From the beginning of your career, you've had this association with the word "turbulence." You use Turbo as an alter ego.

[Laughs] How do you know all this? This is some Nardwuar s— right now, man.

flopson, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:51 (one month ago) link

in fairness they aren't used to interviewers making even the slightest effort

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:56 (one month ago) link

the whole album's good but i just keep coming back to "believe"

ufo, Saturday, 18 May 2024 09:53 (one month ago) link

best Cher cover

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 May 2024 09:57 (one month ago) link

https://open.substack.com/pub/ddrake/p/chief-keef-interview 2017 interview

xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 18 May 2024 15:58 (one month ago) link

“Jesus” is a journey

flopson, Monday, 20 May 2024 21:58 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

That time Chief Keef almost blew up his house on the Fourth of July 😳 pic.twitter.com/KoD9u7ZOSL

— XXL Magazine (@XXL) July 4, 2024

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:27 (one week ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.