When you first heard Loveless, did you think your copy was defective? Did you bring it back to the store and ask for your money back?

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I didn't think my copy and/or player and/or files were defective. 82
I actually thought there was something wrong with my CD/tape/record player ¯\(°_o)/¯ 5
I thought my copy was defective, but I didn't do anything about it. 2
I downloaded it and thought the mp3s were defective! 2
I thought my copy was defective. I brought it back to the store and asked for my money back. 0


and yet (unregistered), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:19 (nine years ago) link

The first time I played Loveless, I thought my copy was defective because it just sounded so odd to me.

I really liked My Bloody Valentine. Their album Loveless is a great favourite. I bought it on cassette in 1991 and I clearly remember wondering if the cassette was warped, so strange was some of the music, till you got used to it. I'm sure other people thought this as well, the first time they heard it.

Then the drummer in a band I was in at the time brought in a cassette of Loveless when it came out. He gave it to me and said you really must hear this shit. So I played it for a few days and brought it back to him and said, that's great but the tape is all warbly and fucked up. He said no it's supposed to sound like that.

When I first pressed play on the classic album "Loveless", I assumed my old CD player was broken. A strange distorted wall of noise collided with my ears and drove me back. A look of bafflement passed over my face and I took it out. Then I tried ripping the CD and listening to it on my PC. Then I said the immortal words "Oh, so it’s supposed to sound like that."

I first heard My Bloody Valentine in the 8th grade, when I downloaded Loveless on Napster. This was late in Napster’s existence, when most of the files were likely to be corrupt or mislabeled. When I opened up the first track on Loveless, and was hit with that mess of noise ("Only Shallow" feels like a punch in the gut that first time, doesn’t it?), I thought, bullshit, more fucked up files. I deleted the album and didn’t try again until a few months later. Anyway, what a great song, huh?

I still remember the first time I heard Loveless I actually thought the tape was warped since it sounded like it was constantly speeding up and slowing down. I soon realized that it was only the guitars ebbing and flowing in and out of tune. Took me a couple of listens to acclimate my ears to the new sound, but it was worth it!

mt wrote: "The guitar tracks sound like they warble"

Uh, this was intentional. first time I heard it I thought the cassette was fucked up.

I know a guy that bought Loveless when it came out on tape, and he went and bought the CD version because he thought the tape was warped.

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless, first album that blew me away entirely and taught me that immediacy isn't a necessary attribute for a good album (I thought the tape was warped).

I heard this on a tape initially. I thought the tape was warped. Turns out it was intentional

I recommended this album to a girl I was seeing when it first came out, as I loved it. She took it back to the shop three times because she thought the tape was faulty..

At the time, nothing sounded like this. When I first heard it, it was on a shitty cassette my roommate had, so I thought the tape was warped or something. Then I got the CD and realized it was supposed to sound that way.

I remember a time, when playing 'Loveless' in my car, a friend urgently ejected the tape with a panicked look on his face. He thought the tape was being chewed up!

Years ago, I made a compilation tape for my sister. The last track was MBV's To Here Knows When. My sister thought the tape was damaged in some way!

my bloody valentine “sometimes”…when i first heard this it was on a cassette i bought used and i thought the tape was fucked up. i was pissed, but something told me not to shut it off and by the time this song came on i realized it was supposed to sound that way.

i often tell this story (grandkids *ahem*), but the first time i got loveless i got it on tape and i thought the tape was dodgy because of the way the guitar mix pitchbends.

The first time I heard Loveless, I thought my tape was being chewed up by the machine.

True story. The first time I put the CD of Loveless in my CD player and hit "play" in 1991 or 1992 or whenever it came out, I thought my CD player was broken.

When I first put on Loveless I thought my CD player was broke, (it was the 90s)

I already had the 'You Made Me Realise" 12" so I was quite familiar with how (for want of a better phrase) fucked up mbv's music was and still when I got Loveless home and dropped the stylus on the record and Only Shallow struck up I thought my record player was broken.Years later I read that the staff at the Creation office thought the advance cassette they got of some of the Loveless era stuff was wonky also.

The first time I heard it (on vinyl) I thought my record player was going bad because of the way Kevin Sheilds makes the guitars and synths warp in and out - eerie stuff!

distinctly remember when i picked up this CD when I was a KUCI DJ.....back then any DJ was able to comment on the CD jewel box and everyone, I mean everyone was raving about this....comments like "this song is God", etc. So I went to the local Wherehouse at UCI Plaza and bought it. To my embarrassment, I thought the CD was defective! Somehow I thought the album was recorded in reverse. That was how new the shoegaze sound was to me, at least MBVs version of it. I bought another one and once again, that really weird guitar sound. It was only days, maybe weeks later that I finally "got" it.

and yet (unregistered), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:19 (nine years ago) link

1991: The first time I heard Loveless, or MBV in general, it was a cassette being played in a friend's crumbling Ford Escort. I assumed the tape was fucked up, or the stereo was broken, or both. When I was told otherwise, I immediately went out and bought it.
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suggest butt (Pillbox), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:29 (nine years ago) link

ha ha, great thread title

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:30 (nine years ago) link

I remember thinking how it sounded just like the cover art suggested it would.

nicky lo-fi, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:30 (nine years ago) link

a friend's stepmom, way back in the day, on overhearing us listening to Touched: 'is this supposed to be music? it sounds like whales dying.'

suggest butt (Pillbox), Monday, 15 October 2012 19:32 (nine years ago) link

Is that a picture of the Annie OST?

wk, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:34 (nine years ago) link

I'm a bad ILMer: I still think it sounds messed up and still want my money back. Everytime I hear tracks from Loveless, I think "gee, this would be nice if it were mixed properly".

Moodles, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:05 (nine years ago) link

I definitely remember redownloading this same album from a different place because I was not sure if it was supposed to sound like this.

silverfish, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:07 (nine years ago) link

I bought the cd a couple of months later and until listening to that I was never really sure if the mp3s I had were ok (though I enjoyed listening to them anyway)

silverfish, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:10 (nine years ago) link

I heard the remix of "Soon" in Listen Records in Reading (long gone) and bought it immediately, and the normal 12" a couple months later.

From the same shop, I bought the pre-release 12" promo of "To Who Knows When", and thought it was pressed off-centre. After close examining, decided it was not.

I didn't like it. But I kept going back to it...

By the time "Loveless" came out, I was ready! Oh, and Listen was closed down...

Mark G, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:14 (nine years ago) link

"I didn't think my copy and/or player and/or files were defective.... I did think 'this is what the hype is about!?'"

fauxmarc, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:20 (nine years ago) link

yeah I'd heard so much about the album beforehand that I was not really shocked at all by the sound

frogbs, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:23 (nine years ago) link

i bought it the first time about a year after it came out, so I had already done the same panicked tape exchange with Faith no More's Angel Dust.

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:26 (nine years ago) link

wait, why with "angel dust"?!!?

the late great, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:28 (nine years ago) link

oh wow have i been listening to jizzlobber all mixed-up all this time

fauxmarc, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:30 (nine years ago) link

xp: there's an undulating noise in the first track that sounded like some sort of grindy cassette problem, sort of like that weird hum that you get under early mountain goats tracks.

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:33 (nine years ago) link

I thought it was fine. But many years ago I convinced a friend at uni to buy it and they had the whole "I think the cd is warped" reaction.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:38 (nine years ago) link

my friend copied it from lp to tape for me, yes, i thought it was fucked

my roi is insane! (Hunt3r), Monday, 15 October 2012 20:38 (nine years ago) link

When I first heard Loveless I had no idea what was going on because I was so high I could barely stand. That it still sounded as fucked the next day when I wasn't made me happy.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 15 October 2012 20:44 (nine years ago) link

tbh I was more like "why do the drums sound like shit?"

Master of Treacle, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:06 (nine years ago) link

and buying Isn't Anything first is handy for things like this

Master of Treacle, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:07 (nine years ago) link

No, because by the time I got to it was in the CANON.

Clarke B., Monday, 15 October 2012 23:31 (nine years ago) link

I bought unheard based on some reviews talking about how intense and loud they could be live. Loveless was definitely a grower for me and didn't become one I listened to a ton till quite a bit later. I didn't know what the heck some of those sounds were, but I kind of filed them in my head compared to Loop or Jesus & Mary Chain, both of which especially the later I had cds and listened to them quite a bit.

earlnash, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 00:32 (nine years ago) link

I did wonder if Jesus & Mary Chain's Psychocandy was supposed to sound like that the first time I heard it. I definitely thought that was a pretty crazy sound with all that shrieking feedback with toy drums playing in a cave.

earlnash, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 00:35 (nine years ago) link

Nah. It was somebody else's copy, and it sounded like the dopesters thing ever.

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 03:43 (nine years ago) link

Nah, because it was clearly awesome

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 07:01 (nine years ago) link

No, because I had taped six tracks off the John Peel show so knew what it sounded like already, and Peel never played records at the wrong speed or anything like that....:)

Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 07:06 (nine years ago) link

The first copy I had sounded muted, think I did buy it a second time prior to the reissue this year. Was there a remaster campaign with Creation either late 90s or 00s? If so I think I bought it then.
The version I had around prior to the recent remaaster does still sound odd but then again the disc with the previously remixed version does still sound weird compressed or something?

I think it's only really the alternative mix that sounds the way I think it should. & didn't Kevin say the sound on th ereleased version was intentionally contained sounding or something to that effect.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 07:38 (nine years ago) link

i never heard loveless

buzza, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 07:40 (nine years ago) link

At the time, I was used to hearing "shitty" sounding late80s-early90s rock, so no

blank, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 07:42 (nine years ago) link

i listened to isn't anything first, so by the time loveless came out i was kinda used to that blurry sound. i recall the first time i ever listened to victorialand tho: some guy inadvertedly played the entire A side on the radio at 33 rpm and i clearly remember thinking it was the weirdest shit i'd ever heard.

cock chirea, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:56 (nine years ago) link

Loveless will always be connected to Super Metroid on the SNES in my brane.

where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 09:26 (nine years ago) link

How's that?

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 10:43 (nine years ago) link

Poll Closing Date: Monday, October 14, 2013 8:00 PM (in 11 months)

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"y-you mean it's supposed to sound like that?"

I thought my copy was defective. I brought it back to the store and asked for my money back.
I thought my copy was defective, but I didn't do anything about it.
I actually thought there was something wrong with my CD/tape/record player ¯\(°_o)/¯
I downloaded it and thought the mp3s were defective!
I didn't think my copy and/or player and/or files were defective.

― and yet (unregistered), Monday, October 15, 2012 3:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The first time I played Loveless, I thought my copy was defective because it just sounded so odd to me.

I really liked My Bloody Valentine. Their album Loveless is a great favourite. I bought it on cassette in 1991 and I clearly remember wondering if the cassette was warped, so strange was some of the music, till you got used to it. I'm sure other people thought this as well, the first time they heard it.

Then the drummer in a band I was in at the time brought in a cassette of Loveless when it came out. He gave it to me and said you really must hear this shit. So I played it for a few days and brought it back to him and said, that's great but the tape is all warbly and fucked up. He said no it's supposed to sound like that.

When I first pressed play on the classic album "Loveless", I assumed my old CD player was broken. A strange distorted wall of noise collided with my ears and drove me back. A look of bafflement passed over my face and I took it out. Then I tried ripping the CD and listening to it on my PC. Then I said the immortal words "Oh, so it’s supposed to sound like that."

I first heard My Bloody Valentine in the 8th grade, when I downloaded Loveless on Napster. This was late in Napster’s existence, when most of the files were likely to be corrupt or mislabeled. When I opened up the first track on Loveless, and was hit with that mess of noise ("Only Shallow" feels like a punch in the gut that first time, doesn’t it?), I thought, bullshit, more fucked up files. I deleted the album and didn’t try again until a few months later. Anyway, what a great song, huh?

I still remember the first time I heard Loveless I actually thought the tape was warped since it sounded like it was constantly speeding up and slowing down. I soon realized that it was only the guitars ebbing and flowing in and out of tune. Took me a couple of listens to acclimate my ears to the new sound, but it was worth it!

mt wrote: "The guitar tracks sound like they warble"

Uh, this was intentional. first time I heard it I thought the cassette was fucked up.

I know a guy that bought Loveless when it came out on tape, and he went and bought the CD version because he thought the tape was warped.

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless, first album that blew me away entirely and taught me that immediacy isn't a necessary attribute for a good album (I thought the tape was warped).

I heard this on a tape initially. I thought the tape was warped. Turns out it was intentional

I recommended this album to a girl I was seeing when it first came out, as I loved it. She took it back to the shop three times because she thought the tape was faulty..

At the time, nothing sounded like this. When I first heard it, it was on a shitty cassette my roommate had, so I thought the tape was warped or something. Then I got the CD and realized it was supposed to sound that way.

I remember a time, when playing 'Loveless' in my car, a friend urgently ejected the tape with a panicked look on his face. He thought the tape was being chewed up!

Years ago, I made a compilation tape for my sister. The last track was MBV's To Here Knows When. My sister thought the tape was damaged in some way!

my bloody valentine “sometimes”…when i first heard this it was on a cassette i bought used and i thought the tape was fucked up. i was pissed, but something told me not to shut it off and by the time this song came on i realized it was supposed to sound that way.

i often tell this story (grandkids *ahem*), but the first time i got loveless i got it on tape and i thought the tape was dodgy because of the way the guitar mix pitchbends.

The first time I heard Loveless, I thought my tape was being chewed up by the machine.

True story. The first time I put the CD of Loveless in my CD player and hit "play" in 1991 or 1992 or whenever it came out, I thought my CD player was broken.

When I first put on Loveless I thought my CD player was broke, (it was the 90s)

I already had the 'You Made Me Realise" 12" so I was quite familiar with how (for want of a better phrase) fucked up mbv's music was and still when I got Loveless home and dropped the stylus on the record and Only Shallow struck up I thought my record player was broken.Years later I read that the staff at the Creation office thought the advance cassette they got of some of the Loveless era stuff was wonky also.

The first time I heard it (on vinyl) I thought my record player was going bad because of the way Kevin Sheilds makes the guitars and synths warp in and out - eerie stuff!

distinctly remember when i picked up this CD when I was a KUCI DJ.....back then any DJ was able to comment on the CD jewel box and everyone, I mean everyone was raving about this....comments like "this song is God", etc. So I went to the local Wherehouse at UCI Plaza and bought it. To my embarrassment, I thought the CD was defective! Somehow I thought the album was recorded in reverse. That was how new the shoegaze sound was to me, at least MBVs version of it. I bought another one and once again, that really weird guitar sound. It was only days, maybe weeks later that I finally "got" it.

― and yet (unregistered), Monday, October 15, 2012 3:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

1991: The first time I heard Loveless, or MBV in general, it was a cassette being played in a friend's crumbling Ford Escort. I assumed the tape was fucked up, or the stereo was broken, or both. When I was told otherwise, I immediately went out and bought it.
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Saturday, June 4, 2005 4:18 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark

― suggest butt (Pillbox), Monday, October 15, 2012 3:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha ha, great thread title

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, October 15, 2012 3:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I remember thinking how it sounded just like the cover art suggested it would.

― nicky lo-fi, Monday, October 15, 2012 3:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a friend's stepmom, way back in the day, on overhearing us listening to Touched: 'is this supposed to be music? it sounds like whales dying.'

― suggest butt (Pillbox), Monday, October 15, 2012 3:32 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is that a picture of the Annie OST?

― wk, Monday, October 15, 2012 3:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm a bad ILMer: I still think it sounds messed up and still want my money back. Everytime I hear tracks from Loveless, I think "gee, this would be nice if it were mixed properly".

― Moodles, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I definitely remember redownloading this same album from a different place because I was not sure if it was supposed to sound like this.

― silverfish, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I bought the cd a couple of months later and until listening to that I was never really sure if the mp3s I had were ok (though I enjoyed listening to them anyway)

― silverfish, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I heard the remix of "Soon" in Listen Records in Reading (long gone) and bought it immediately, and the normal 12" a couple months later.

From the same shop, I bought the pre-release 12" promo of "To Who Knows When", and thought it was pressed off-centre. After close examining, decided it was not.

I didn't like it. But I kept going back to it...

By the time "Loveless" came out, I was ready! Oh, and Listen was closed down...

― Mark G, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"I didn't think my copy and/or player and/or files were defective.... I did think 'this is what the hype is about!?'"

― fauxmarc, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah I'd heard so much about the album beforehand that I was not really shocked at all by the sound

― frogbs, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i bought it the first time about a year after it came out, so I had already done the same panicked tape exchange with Faith no More's Angel Dust.

― sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Monday, October 15, 2012 4:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait, why with "angel dust"?!!?

― the late great, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh wow have i been listening to jizzlobber all mixed-up all this time

― fauxmarc, Monday, October 15, 2012 4:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp: there's an undulating noise in the first track that sounded like some sort of grindy cassette problem, sort of like that weird hum that you get under early mountain goats tracks.

― sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Monday, October 15, 2012 4:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've been listening to youtubes of Angel Dust and can't hear what I was talking about! But I swear there was something there that I had never heard before and couldn't stand hearing. I marched that tape back to Musicland in the hot summer vacation sun and filled out an exchange slip and everything.

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:20 (nine years ago) link

and when I got home with it, I accidentally c&p'd the entire thread!

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:21 (nine years ago) link

I went back to the torrent site and commented, "0/10, do not seed fake files sounds like screech noize!!111!!"

Doping Makes Your Arm Strong (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 11:24 (nine years ago) link

I did not have this reaction because I bought it in the mid-90s after reading everywhere that it was so amazingly weird-sounding and yet the greatest masterpiece of all time etc etc zzz, but I'm still not 100% sure if my (official but second-hand) tape of Isn't Anything is meant to sound like that, as not only is it warbly and pitchbendy but the sound's so damn thin too, something you can't say of Loveless

if anyone replies and says "the sound on Isn't Anything is not thin, you have terrible ears" then I'll assume it's the tape. or I could just download some mp3s to compare I guess

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:06 (nine years ago) link

can't find the thread where i told the story about me and my mate listening to it on cassette just after release and knowing it was meant to sound like that but pissing ourselves laughing at the notion of McGee spunking a quarter of a million quid on it

thread lock holiday (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:08 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 14 October 2013 00:01 (eight years ago) link

no but i did think this about exile on main street, way back in 2006.

Treeship, Monday, 14 October 2013 00:02 (eight years ago) link

Was forewarned on both this album and Tortoise's Million Now Living Will Never Die. However my cassette tape copy of Sgt Pepper did not have anything like the infinite inner groove loop, which had me worried for a bit.

Gallucci Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 October 2013 00:31 (eight years ago) link

^ yeah, have heard of Millions Now Living being returned to shops.

djh, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:06 (eight years ago) link

unregistered is a hero fwiw

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Monday, 14 October 2013 21:13 (eight years ago) link

This poll should have taken 12 years to conclude

Mark G, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:20 (eight years ago) link

I think I took it back cos it sounded really muffled. Did i get a faulty copy?

Stevolende, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:21 (eight years ago) link

& I came away with a replacement copy which may or may not have been better, think it was actually.

Stevolende, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:22 (eight years ago) link

Was going to say, someone must have had a defective copy.

Mark G, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:23 (eight years ago) link

I did not think my copy of Loveless was defective (everyone's talking about "To Here Knows When" presumably), nor "Djed" off of Millions Now Living Will Now Die... but I will admit that the "moment" circa 3m21s of "Golden Ball" off of Transient Noise Bursts With Announcements had me scrambling across the room to my turntable on the first spin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sTN9ozglRo

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:04 (eight years ago) link

My copy of TRNBWA is the only CD I've purchased that DID have a defect! A scratch that killed off the last two tracks. New CD as well. Monsieur Le Fopp, you truly spoiled it!

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:13 (eight years ago) link

the initial scene release of the comlag ep by radiohead had a glitch on one track, short bursts of crunchy white noise here and there, that i thought was intentional (on the part of radiohead not the mp3 encoder)

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:14 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Conclusive!

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 10:53 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

Man taht cassette is not cheap to find

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 13 January 2022 15:27 (one week ago) link

Only a few people bought Loveless when it first came out, but every one of them wanted their money back

jmm, Thursday, 13 January 2022 16:19 (one week ago) link


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