Daphni - Jiaolong LP (new record from dan snaith/caribou)

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snaith goes further down the edm rabbithole, excellent music ensues. if you liked 'swim' but weren't too keen on the vocals this could definitely win you over

first three tracks might overshadow the rest, but the previously unreleased material is steadily growing on me (it took a while for me to fully appreciate "ye ye" too). do other, more eloquent ilxors have anything to say about this yet?

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:41 (five years ago) Permalink

tracklist:

1. Yes, I Know
2. Cos-Ber-Zam - Ne Noya (Daphni Mix)
3. Ye Ye
4. Light
5. Pairs
6. Ahora
7. Jiao
8. Springs
9. Long

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:43 (five years ago) Permalink

streamable: http://soundcloud.com/caribouband/sets/daphni-jiaolong/

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:54 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't have anything very eloquent to say but i will say i was a bit disappointed by how much of it had been previously released.

stirmonster, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:15 (five years ago) Permalink

^ the curse of the dance music longplayer imo

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:18 (five years ago) Permalink

i guess the opposite side of the spectrum is like a nicolas jaar move where you more or less abandon the energy of previous singles to release something better-suited to home listening

but yea, for those of us that keep up with the world of bobbins there probably isn't too much on here that you haven't already heard

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

it's my own fault for presuming it would be mainly new material and not checking before buying. i rarely buy dance music lps but made an exception for this as i'm a daphni-holic. the uninitiated however are in for a treat, for the most part.

stirmonster, Thursday, 11 October 2012 01:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Is any of it as immedately "!" as his Emeralds or Sinkane remixes?

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Thursday, 11 October 2012 03:44 (five years ago) Permalink

CD of this just arrived yesterday, I've heard about half of it already so know what to expect, but looking forward to opening it up.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 11 October 2012 07:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Is any of it as immedately "!" as his Emeralds or Sinkane remixes?

liked the emeralds remix (maybe less than others tho), haven't heard the sinkane remix, but i'd say my favorite caribou remixes (virgo four and junior boys) are a bit more immediate than this. but again, those opening three tracks are really really really awesome and maybe just as good for different reasons

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Thursday, 11 October 2012 08:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Bit gutted that Mapfumo didn't make it onto the LP. Probably my favourite from the 12"'s but from what I've read it's pretty much a cover/remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al-_HC21_WE

Internet Alan, Thursday, 11 October 2012 08:20 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a 12.5 min long edit of a relatively famous thomas mapfumo track, hard to imagine it was sanctioned or that it's easy to obtain rights for that type of thing

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Thursday, 11 October 2012 08:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I really enjoyed this, more than I've enjoyed any Caribou output. As Caribou, for someone essentially making melodic electronic music, he isn't actually particularly good at melody*. He's evidently a lot better when just putting out straight bangers.

*Contrast to Four Tet who is amazing at it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2012 10:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I love Yes, I Know to death (what's the sample from, by the way?) but haven't really got into the new ones yet.

The Niama Makalou remix is A+++ though. The ending is spectacular.

http://soundcloud.com/sofrito/niama-makalou-et-african-soul

Citizen Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 11 October 2012 10:55 (five years ago) Permalink

"Yes i Know" sampled from -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zBlpfOP9c8

stirmonster, Thursday, 11 October 2012 10:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Ha, I was just about to post the Buddy Miles clip. Astounding record.

I had the opposite reaction to Matt. I think Caribou's great at melody and layered arrangements. By comparison Daphni's club bangers are one-dimensional - only half the album takes off.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 11 October 2012 10:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Ta.

(this place is still amazing sometimes)

Citizen Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:00 (five years ago) Permalink

i'd agree only half the album takes off but when it does.....

i love his club bangers and Ye Ye must surely have been one of thee club tracks of 2011.

stirmonster, Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm still not really feeling this. It sounds griddy and lifeless compared to the obvious Four Tet (the two of them are starting to merge in my head, except Kieran is hotter but Dan has better shirts.) Which is a shame, because I do generally like lots of Caribou. (Though, that said, I *love* Caribou when I hear one track in the midst of a mix, and I'm all "best thing ever!" but I lag a bit in the midst of whole albums.)

Maybe I should listen to more of the remixes.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I love "griddy". Such a perfect description. With Caribou I can't work out how he does it but here, as someone with zero expertise on music software, I feel like, oh yeah, now he's bringing the snare in - count 16 bars - oh here's the sample. Which is fine and great on the dancefloor, obviously, but the appeal wanes over the course of an album.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I think it might also be that I tend to prefer Daphni's source material better in the original. While with Four Tet, he has a way of taking one forgotten tiny riff of a bigger piece that you wouldn't even notice in the original, and building it up into this sparkly amazing sonic cathedral.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Think, from what I've listened to of Jiaolong thus far, that I'm going to side with DL and WCC here; saying that, I do like the sense of fun and frippery that runs through what I've heard - some of the vocal samples and daft noises are like dance music with a massive smile on its face.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:16 (five years ago) Permalink

xp True. Four Tet's approach is more like the way RZA would turn a minor sliver of a soul record into a hook instead of just going for the bassline. I love Yes, I Know but I love The Segment more.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:16 (five years ago) Permalink

But the Daphni record isn't really aiming for the same think as Four Tet. This feels squarely aimed at the dancefloor in a way that even the trackiest bits of Pink don't. This is a functional record but it's very good at it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:17 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, they always get bandied together but i don't think i've ever played a four get record in a dj set while i'd happily play lots of daphni. as daphni, he definitely has a great sense of club dynamics while also doing something a little different to anyone else and finding great sure material few producers would think of utilising.

stirmonster, Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:25 (five years ago) Permalink

FWIW I think Four Tet's understanding of club dynamics is very good as well but he seems less interested in exploring that on his own records.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:29 (five years ago) Permalink

source material, not "sure" material. xp

stirmonster, Thursday, 11 October 2012 11:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i don't have anything very eloquent to say but i will say i was a bit disappointed by how much of it had been previously released.

The tracks which were already released as singles are quite expensive (30 euros for the 12" w/ Ye Ye, 20 euros for Ne Noya on discogs), and were a little hard to get, so it's nice that they are now also available on the LP.

ey, Thursday, 11 October 2012 12:16 (five years ago) Permalink

xp True. Four Tet's approach is more like the way RZA would turn a minor sliver of a soul record into a hook instead of just going for the bassline. I love Yes, I Know but I love The Segment more.

Watched the Beats Rhymes and Life documentary recently and was surprised to learn the high pitched tone that plays throughout 'Lyrics To Go' was actually a sample Q-Tip took of the vocal climx of Minnie Ripperton's 'Inside My Love'. I didn't realize just how of their production was done by Q-Tip.

As for Four Tet vs Caribou, I wish he would have made the album a little more headphone oriented. Still for the guy who has the attitude to call EDM a barfsplosion, this album as one of the best this year shows he has the abilities to back up that attitude.

viborg, Thursday, 11 October 2012 15:05 (five years ago) Permalink

*just how much of their production work was done by Q-Tip.

viborg, Thursday, 11 October 2012 15:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Fun fun fun:

For those with the UK/EU Daphni 2LP- have you noticed it comes with a DL card embedded with wildflower seeds that you can plant after using?

fish frosch (seandalai), Friday, 12 October 2012 10:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Is that even legal?

Do we know where those seeds come from? Is he trying to destroy European wildlife with his invasive Canadian wildflower species?

This is how Dutch Elm Disease got spread, you know!

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Friday, 12 October 2012 10:52 (five years ago) Permalink

what lil wayne song are his "ye ye"s from?

heiswagger (rennavate), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:53 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm an idiot it's obviously "receipt" (great song btw)

heiswagger (rennavate), Friday, 12 October 2012 15:57 (five years ago) Permalink

written up in the new yorker last week, not online

EVERYONE COOKING SCMABLED EGGS,CHEESE WITH TOASTER!! (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 October 2012 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm enjoying this SO much more than anything i've ever heard from caribou

lex pretend, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

that is not surprising lex

heiswagger (rennavate), Friday, 12 October 2012 17:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I think his Emeralds remixes are the best thing I've heard by him. Serious Revelee vibe.

It helps that he doesn't try and sing over these as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 October 2012 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

HANG ON why did no one tell me about these emeralds remixes?????? INCREDIBLE

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE TELL ME WHEN MUSIC LIKE THIS OCCURS

i get told about so much bullshit and not stuff like this >:(

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Cosigning lex's posts in this thread.

Tim F, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

i am thinking about all the music that critics and fans have gone on about and pushed my way and how shitty 90% of it was and then i think about how no one bothered even PRing this to me and ughhhhh

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:44 (five years ago) Permalink

well it was a fairly low-key release. Original tracks were a couple of years old etc

Number None, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, zero PR on this. no freebies.

stirmonster, Sunday, 14 October 2012 20:52 (five years ago) Permalink

It's weird because the ground-up enthusiasm for various Daphni remixes has been pretty big. I had no idea he was actually Caribou until relatively recently.

Matt DC, Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:06 (five years ago) Permalink

(are there any similar house/techno remixes of emeralds?)
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:00 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hey Lex, Daphni mixes right here:
http://soundcloud.com/caribouband/sets/emeralds-jiaolong002-does-it

― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, March 14, 2012 3:29 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i tried :(

Professor Giff (NickB), Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

...they've been on that Soundcloud forever lex!

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:14 (five years ago) Permalink

:((((((

yell at me until i get it next time :(

lex pretend, Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:15 (five years ago) Permalink

look for the [/achtung lex]

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 14 October 2012 21:32 (five years ago) Permalink

This album is pretty good but "Yes I Know" is a total all-time jam; I heard it on some RA or Beats in Space mix a year ago and have been pretty hardcore in love with it since.

bell biv devo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 15 October 2012 06:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I may have been so carried away on the wave of joy upon hearing Yes I Know for the first time that I slightly overrated the album, although even the more functional, fillery tracks don't feel especially skippable. I do find myself wishing it was all mixed together though.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 October 2012 07:57 (five years ago) Permalink

The records are labelled (a) and (c) where they should be (b) and (d) - a bit weird but made up for by the DL card embedded with wildflower seeds that you can plant after using.

People not following releases on Jiaolong and complaining about missing out on great releases, WAT??

du mein bestie (micarl), Monday, 15 October 2012 08:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Lex, I'm surprised that you of all people thinks you need a CD in the post to alert him to a new release. PR did send out some CDs but indie labels have to be selective. (I've missed out on good stuff from the same PR in the past)

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 15 October 2012 09:08 (five years ago) Permalink

i didn't mean this album or PR specifically (though i wasn't PRed this either) - i meant the general buzz/conversation around a release that makes me aware that something exists (which most of the time doesn't come from PRs or labels). like what happened for the daphni album actually.

lex pretend, Monday, 15 October 2012 09:21 (five years ago) Permalink

plus everyone should know that relevee-alikes are MY CATNIP

lex pretend, Monday, 15 October 2012 09:21 (five years ago) Permalink

I keep thinking of this as being like Audion but then it occurs to me that I'm only thinking that for biographical reasons.

Tim F, Monday, 15 October 2012 11:03 (five years ago) Permalink

For me it's Four Tet, but both for biographical and sonic reasons.

MikoMcha, Monday, 15 October 2012 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

not really feeling this, but i like the four tet record a lot though since we're comparing them. that one has nice rough edges but sounds much more composed. i get that this record is supposed to be quick loops and modular synth jams for dj gigs, which is cool but most of it doesn't stick for me.

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

Of the four "we are going to dance in a club" albums I've bought this year (Orbital, Talabot, Four Tet and this), this feels like the most fun (and also the most functional). Four Tet's is the most cosmic, Orbital's the most pop, and Talabot is a nice middle ground between them all. For me, anyway.

Love the occasionally African and Brazilian vibes that appear through this.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 19 October 2012 06:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Actually I got the Blondes album as well which is also pretty "we are going to dance in a club" too but it never interested me as much as these. I almost use it as ambient.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 19 October 2012 07:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Jiaolong also best captures that "last track feels like going home" vibe.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 19 October 2012 07:16 (five years ago) Permalink

The Four Tet album doesn't feel particularly clubby to me, quite the opposite actually, it really feels like a living room record, although a couple of tracks near the end might work in a club.

Jialong is definitely the most functional of the four though. I still find myself wishing it was mixed together.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2012 07:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Pink is feeling less clubby and more living room the more I... Play it in my living room.

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 19 October 2012 07:20 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm not blown away by this but i'm into "light" the most, the hi-hats and flute riff are great

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah that one is my second favourite, after Yes I Know.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:18 (five years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

New album 'Joli Mai' out tomorrow!

Four tracks already up on his bandcamp: https://caribouband.bandcamp.com/album/joli-mai

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 5 October 2017 20:42 (two months ago) Permalink

Nice! Very little Snaith has done that I haven't liked, looking forward to playing this on the way home.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 5 October 2017 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Record is on spotify now. It's fucking great!

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 6 October 2017 15:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Really enjoying this. Sometimes I feel like Dan Snaith is my musical avatar, not exactly my "favorite artist" so much as the one that best marries all of the aspects of my musical taste, sense of groove, aesthetic, etc.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 16 October 2017 02:29 (one month ago) Permalink

His recent Fabriclive mix is entirely his own stuff and is excellent.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 October 2017 09:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Isn't most of that mix meant to be on the new album?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 16 October 2017 09:42 (one month ago) Permalink

My guess is that it'll sound a lot better mixed together than as discrete album tracks but this is a bit of a truism with dance albums anyway.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 October 2017 09:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Listened to the album now and it's fine, it's good, but fucking hell *every track* bar one is already on the Fabric mix. Except the mix has a load of other good stuff in there in about the same amount of space and is just a much more exciting and varied and dynamic listen. Whereas an extra three or four minutes of 'Face To Face' or 'Hey Drum' add nothing at all really. It's a string of good-to-great club tracks laid out alongside each other.

Matt DC, Monday, 16 October 2017 18:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Hmm, I wanna hear that then. I think the new one works really nicely as a mix, agree the tracks are sort of static but I enjoy the trance-inducing aspect of that.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 16 October 2017 19:44 (one month ago) Permalink


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