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was going to add to Muse - The Resistance but decided to start all over.

new album The 2nd Law was released just today. hard to believe that they are such a huge rock band these days.

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31700000/The-2nd-Law-muse-31724776-1280-800.png

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:24 (nine years ago) link

i like this new single, have heard it on the radio quite a few times already. better than most stuff modern rock stations play these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0SgwWmF9w

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:25 (nine years ago) link

The name "The 2nd Law" references the Second law of thermodynamics, which is quoted in the track "Unsustainable" as follows:

All natural and technological processes proceed in such a way that the availability of the remaining energy decreases. In all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves an isolated system, the entropy of that system increases. Energy continuously flows from being concentrated, to becoming dispersed, spread out, wasted and useless. New energy cannot be created and high grade energy is being destroyed.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:48 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

"madness" has been on the radio for months at this point and somehow i'm not tired of it. it's probably the only muse song i legit like (other than maybe "supermassive black hole") and actually i have to say it is kind of great.

teddy dominatrix (dyl), Sunday, 14 April 2013 03:56 (eight years ago) link

i can't believe how big "Madness" is. Muse might be the biggest band in America from England at the moment.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 01:19 (eight years ago) link

yeah that song refuses to die. the follow-up single on US radio "Panic Station" is pretty great, as piles of '80s homages go.

some dude, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 01:31 (eight years ago) link

I may be completely wrong on this, but it didn't feel like their most recent album (The 2nd Law) was being pushed anywhere near as hard here as The Resistance was... it seemed that they were on every single fuckin' TV show either performing or being used as background music around that time, but the campaign around The 2nd Law felt a hell of a lot quieter.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:19 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

I tried to give you up, but I'm addicted.

Bee OK, Friday, 8 August 2014 05:11 (seven years ago) link

Madness reminds me of I Want To Break Free, oddly.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 8 August 2014 14:58 (seven years ago) link

yeah, me too

StanM, Friday, 8 August 2014 16:45 (seven years ago) link

Origin of Symmetry is a lot weirder than a mainstream rock record has any right to be, and I still like it (it was my fav album when I was 14, leave me alone). The 1st half is full of jams. After that though I really wish they had faded into obscurity and gone into management or what the fuck ever.

a proclamation of tortoise intent (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 8 August 2014 17:19 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

i turned on KROQ today and they said, here is the new Muse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTcJWhmdzpg

*for Sandy

Bee OK, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 05:05 (six years ago) link

This sounds like a shit a-ha tribute band.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 18:51 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

So I'm listening to the new record, Drones, right now. Now, I know that Muse being ludicrous and over-the-top is hardly news, but I'm over halfway through and I haven't stopped laughing my tits off yet.

two weeks pass...

Quietus review pretty hilarious - http://thequietus.com/articles/18182-muse-drones-review

Benjamin-, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:40 (six years ago) link

Ah, it's Mr. Agreeable.

It doesn't seem like five minutes since Muse were playing Wembley circa Black Holes and Revelations, but that was actually 8 years ago... fucking hell! The new record does have moments of hilarity, but I'm quite sure the band didn't plan it that way.

two years pass...

They played Bluesfest here last night and I decided to try to catch it from the fence; got a good view of a video screen and decent sound. I really thought they were great! Lots of old stuff, hit all the right bombastic stadium rock buttons.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 16 July 2017 13:55 (four years ago) link

I was just thinking of this lot the other day when thinking about stuff from the '00s...

...when this band first appeared, I had 'em pegged as yet another band that sprang up in the wake of the success of "old school" Radiohead, particularly when I heard 'Unintended' ... I certainly wouldn't have banked on 'em becoming the huge stadium act they were briefly about 10 years ago.

I still like Absolution and Black Holes and Revelations ... the last three albums have really failed to set the world on fire though, eh?

Having said that, I really haven't spent much time with The 2nd Law.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 16 July 2017 16:19 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

UN-SUS-TAIN-A-BLE

pneeeeeeeoooowwwsqueesqueesquee!!!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 15:45 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Absolution > Black Holes and Revelations > Drones
> The Resistance > Origin of Symmetry > Showbiz > The 2nd Law

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 2 September 2018 08:32 (three years ago) link

Drones > The Resistance > Origin of Symmetry

get out

imago, Sunday, 2 September 2018 08:56 (three years ago) link

Drones and The Resistance are very good records - Origin of Symmetry is a wildly overrated one, especially by Muse's own fans. Muse's lyrics have been silly from the beginning.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 2 September 2018 09:21 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

I have to say, Simulation Theory sounds like they finally skipped ahead to the level of pop streamlining they've always longed for.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 16 November 2018 02:27 (three years ago) link

it's their most enjoyable album in at least a decade. nothing i'll rep for on the level of Knights of Cydonia, but Something Human is pretty good at least

the p4k review was otm about them finally finding the right level of camp, they've finally made something that sounds fun in how it plays around with silly genre experiments, without any overly earnest stadium rock clunkers or attempts at both 'getting political' and 'rocking out' that dont really succeed at either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LgLcDg15SM

Propaganda is a ridiculous song - Prince imitation with dubstep wubs and a bluesy acoustic solo - and this sort of nonsense is what i want i've been wanting more of from them for a long time

ufo, Friday, 16 November 2018 02:54 (three years ago) link

and Propaganda was produced by Timbaland? lol

ufo, Friday, 16 November 2018 04:16 (three years ago) link

yes to what ufo says - their clear best since at least bh&r

imago, Friday, 16 November 2018 06:51 (three years ago) link

I listened to the new one yesterday, and I don't like or enjoy it all that much - for me, their second worst after The 2nd Law. Drones and The Resistance both leagues ahead.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 16 November 2018 18:57 (three years ago) link

i finally decided to play something besides The B-52's and threw this on for the first time. it checks off everything that i love about this band. way over the top ballistic music and hits my guilty pleasure zone.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:55 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0UWT0dFSQE

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:56 (three years ago) link

The main problem that I have with the record is that all this supposed '80s synthpop influence is mere window dressing on a batch of songs which at their core are Muse by numbers. Far too many times on this album did Matt's vocal melodies remind me clearly of other Muse songs. I think he's finally ran out of melodies.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 26 November 2018 20:28 (three years ago) link

i have only heard this once and can see this as Muse by the numbers. will be interesting to see if i go back to it much. ILM hates Muse so i didn't expect many to even listen, glad you gave it a go.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 27 November 2018 00:56 (three years ago) link

Since then I've given it a few more listens and there's a couple of songs that have grown on me, but I still feel that Drones and The Resistance are better records. I don't have a problem with Muse at all - in fact, I think when they're at their best they're fantastic at what they do! I just feel that at his point they've painted themselves into a bit of a corner - they need something new to write about, and to stop going over old ground melodically.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 19:12 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Ok which one of you fuckers secret santa'd me the new Muse cd? Recently moved and been keeping my address under wraps, but I do know three ilxors have my address. I didn't ask for this. This is an outrage. Out yourself.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 15:52 (three years ago) link

please rank the tracks

ogmor, Thursday, 27 December 2018 16:00 (three years ago) link

jesus christ don't make me do that

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 16:03 (three years ago) link

:D

imago, Thursday, 27 December 2018 16:10 (three years ago) link

(not me I hasten to add)

imago, Thursday, 27 December 2018 16:11 (three years ago) link

A Christmas miracle!

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 27 December 2018 16:48 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/uSOX5xg.jpg

Return address is Sandbag ltd Reading, but that's the shop it's been ordered at. No note accompanying this ball and chain of a gift.

Would be happy to pass this on to someone on here who might actually care. It's still shrink-wrapped and I can guarantee you it will stay that way.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 16:59 (three years ago) link

This is genuinely one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.

You guys are alright.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:02 (three years ago) link

I've commented negatively on the cover of this cd on the noteworthy album covers thread, I confess, but this was *not* what was supposed to happen.

LJ, have to admit I pegged u as the culprit for a sec but kind of knew you wouldn't blow yr wad on a dire Muse cd.

I've ruled out my irl friends. It *must* be someone from here, or else it's Muse themselves sending out cd's because the thing ain't selling. Otherwise itisamystery.jpg

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:07 (three years ago) link

dissident anti-bildt dutch loyalist and language extinction fan imo

imago, Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:08 (three years ago) link

:DDD

Thought abt the title being a ~subtle~ clue about/towards me, but it's 'Simulation Theory' and I've got nothing.

(well, I can think of something, but the Ms. doesn't simulate iirc)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:10 (three years ago) link

ffs

imago, Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:12 (three years ago) link

Otm. First one to come up with a relatively tight explanation gets the cd. Or just say 'I want the cd'. Otherwise it will be binned.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:16 (three years ago) link

Plenty of Muse fans in Holland, give it to a random person in the HEMA.

Siegbran, Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:25 (three years ago) link

I almost want to claim it, just so I can possess a piece of ilx lore.

Almost.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:26 (three years ago) link

Send me yr address thru ilxmail and it's yours Austin.

(I will have to fp you, ofcourse, for wanting Muse's latest, but you can take it on the chin iirc <3)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:27 (three years ago) link

Haha, I wouldn't do that. I'm on the west coast of the US. It would probably cost you as much to mail it as it would for me to just buy a copy of my own.

Which certainly isn't going to happen.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:28 (three years ago) link

Uhmm.. You don't seem to understand how much I want to get rid of this awful thing.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 27 December 2018 17:30 (three years ago) link

Is it the Super Deluxe edition?

DT, Thursday, 27 December 2018 19:39 (three years ago) link

I would love to hear this rip off of synthwave just so I can hate them even more.

mark e, Thursday, 27 December 2018 20:19 (three years ago) link

If you seriously want to get rid of it enough to send it to Canada, 'I want the cd. They put on a good show last year.

Locked in silent monologue, in silent scream (Sund4r), Thursday, 27 December 2018 20:45 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I underrated Simulation Theory. cringe all you like, this shit bangs.

Simon H., Monday, 21 September 2020 14:40 (one year ago) link

it's at least ridiculous in a pretty fun way which is more than they'd managed for a long long time and reminded me of why they were so formative for me lol

ufo, Monday, 21 September 2020 15:11 (one year ago) link

more ridiculous Muse = better Muse

Simon H., Monday, 21 September 2020 18:13 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

New Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d55ELY17CFM

Bee OK, Friday, 14 January 2022 03:06 (six days ago) link

Metel Muse

Bee OK, Friday, 14 January 2022 03:06 (six days ago) link

pretty dire

ufo, Friday, 14 January 2022 03:44 (six days ago) link

one of their worst singles ever lol

ufo, Friday, 14 January 2022 03:59 (six days ago) link

tbf muse have for a long time (always) been an experiment in bad taste that's occasionally brooked fun results. this is a catastrophic-to-the-point-of-near-enjoyment verse married to a very Muse chorus. it doesn't really work. the guitar breakdowns are terrible. there's very little way to really think about this productively. i probably won't listen to it again

imago, Friday, 14 January 2022 09:26 (six days ago) link

it's such a clunky disjointed mess and even the individual parts don't work at all let alone all smashed together, the only thing of theirs i can think of that's this much of a mess is "unsustainable", that dubstep disaster track

there are plenty of muse songs where the hook sucks or the guitar sucks or whatever but this is a low they rarely manage to reach

ufo, Friday, 14 January 2022 10:07 (six days ago) link

yeah I was thinking they'd brought back the 2nd Law wubs for this, but made them somehow worse

imago, Friday, 14 January 2022 10:17 (six days ago) link

it's weird coz at their biting-Rachmaninov peak the songs really did hold together, even the ambitious stuff like Citizen Erased or Butterflies & Hurricanes (both of which are up their with their best imo)

imago, Friday, 14 January 2022 10:20 (six days ago) link

feels like Bellamy has kind of unlearned songwriting

imago, Friday, 14 January 2022 10:20 (six days ago) link

i like it

StanM, Friday, 14 January 2022 18:20 (six days ago) link

The wheat-to-chaff ratio with Muse is very high. There are four Muse songs that I can sort-of listen to: Plug In Baby (the song that launched a million YouTube guitar videos), Hysteria (because the guitar solo is actually a proper solo rather than the same arpeggiated sequence again like most of their songs), Supermassive Black Hole (didn't trad Muse fans hate this when it came out because it's relatively unlike their previous songs? anyway that might be why I like it), and Survival (which manages the kind of pompous ridiculousness this new song tries to hit but can't).

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 14 January 2022 18:37 (six days ago) link

given this four listens and now i'm out, i tried. liked the heaviness of it on first listen but really this just has a bunch of their ideas recycled.

Bee OK, Saturday, 15 January 2022 01:53 (five days ago) link


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