Oh I Wish I Had a POLL, I Could Skate Away On: The Joni Mitchell Tracks/Albums Results Thread (ILM ARTIST POLL #26)

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First the albums countdown today and then tracks over the rest of the week.

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:43 (five years ago) Permalink

13. Shine - 2007 (1 point)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:45 (five years ago) Permalink

12. Shadows & Lights - 1980 (2 points)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:49 (five years ago) Permalink

9- TIE. Wild Things Run Fast - 1982 (3 points)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:51 (five years ago) Permalink

9- TIE. Mingus - 1979 (3 points)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:52 (five years ago) Permalink

9- TIE. Clouds - 1969 (3 points)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:53 (five years ago) Permalink

8. Night Ride Home - 1991 (4 points)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:54 (five years ago) Permalink

7. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter - 1977 (6 points)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:56 (five years ago) Permalink

6. Ladies of the Canyon - 1970 (18 points, one #1st place vote)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:58 (five years ago) Permalink

She was trying too hard on Clouds, I think. Other than that, she's kind of overwhelming.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:58 (five years ago) Permalink

5. For the Roses - 1972 (26 points)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 12:59 (five years ago) Permalink

oh man, I can't believe I missed this poll :( Excited to see the results, at least!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:01 (five years ago) Permalink

4. The Hissing of Summer Lawns - 1975 (38 points, two #1st place votes)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I still haven't tabulated the tracks results. If you get them in ASAP, I'll include them.

Also, just a little logistical note. Today and tomorrow I can't stagger the results (which shouldn't be a big deal because it's just albums rollout and first bunch of tracks). I'll do a better job of staggering though throughout the rest of the week.

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:03 (five years ago) Permalink

hmmm i know where this is going

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:03 (five years ago) Permalink

(the album poll i mean)

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:03 (five years ago) Permalink

3. Hejira - 1976 (51 points, six #1st place votes: MOST NUMBER ONE VOTES)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:05 (five years ago) Permalink

oooh, excellent Mordy! I will get one together asap! :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:05 (five years ago) Permalink

2. Court & Spark - 1974 (56 points, four #1st place votes)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:07 (five years ago) Permalink

DRUMROLL PLZ

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:07 (five years ago) Permalink

i cdn't do this btw, felt insufficiently familiar with the latest stuff and too protective of everything else

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:07 (five years ago) Permalink

but this top 3 seems otm to me

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:08 (five years ago) Permalink

1. Blue - 1971 (59 points, five #1st place votes)

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:08 (five years ago) Permalink

SEINFELD FRETLESS BASS

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:08 (five years ago) Permalink

3. Hejira - 1976 (51 points, six #1st place votes: MOST NUMBER ONE VOTES)

tru kult fans

Tim F, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:09 (five years ago) Permalink

oh and i like Song to a Seagull a lot more than the electorate here :(

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:10 (five years ago) Permalink

BONUS ALBUM: Joni Mitchell and James Taylor at the Royal Albert Hall, London UK - October 28, 1970

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No votes, but I love this particular bootleg and highly recommend ppl check it out. Tons of between song banter and they sing on each other's songs.

Plus, you can listen to the entire thing on youtube!

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Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:12 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost Would you have voted for it top 5 though?

Tim F, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:12 (five years ago) Permalink

number 5 maybe just so it got a vote

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:14 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, I was >this< close to putting it at #5 myself

Jeff W, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Wild Things Run Fast in the top ten!

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:19 (five years ago) Permalink

How were points scored for albums? 5 for #1, 4 for #2, etc? Was I really the only person to give a vote to Clouds?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Exactly so, but Clouds got (2) votes.

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:37 (five years ago) Permalink

(iirc, I gave it the other vote.)

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:38 (five years ago) Permalink

At least eighteen ballots, plus ffm's tardy one, bodes well for the tracks poll.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:41 (five years ago) Permalink

But Clouds was #3 on my ballot, which should have given it three points. If you voted for it as well, it should have got more than 3 points in total.

xpost to Mordy

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:42 (five years ago) Permalink

it was tardy, rushed but heartfelt! am going to spend rest of the day youtubing her, not many mp3s on my phone atm

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:47 (five years ago) Permalink

so....Shadows and Light or Mile of Aisles????

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Sund4r, after reviewing all the ballots I'm not sure that I received yours. I have two ballots (including my own) w/ Clouds on it. Do you want to resend it and I'll make sure your tracks ballot is included?

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:54 (five years ago) Permalink

(Alternatively if you resend it, and I realize I already had yours, I apologize for the oversight.)

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Can I just check that you got mine?

clemenza, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I got yours.

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I just resent it to jonimitchellpoll AT gmail DOT com. Could you please confirm that you received it? If it wasn't counted, it would push Hejira to #2.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 1 October 2012 14:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I sent it from a Yahoo address.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 1 October 2012 14:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I just received it. I double checked and this is the first time I've received it. I'm sorry I wasn't able to include it in the albums poll, but I'll make sure it's counted in the tracks poll.

Mordy, Monday, 1 October 2012 14:19 (five years ago) Permalink

:(

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 1 October 2012 14:23 (five years ago) Permalink

It's OK, shenanigans means I can assume dozens of Hissing votes got lost down the back of the sofa :)

Jeff W, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been busy = voter fail. how many ballots have you got so far Mordy?

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 October 2012 17:05 (five years ago) Permalink

C&S is so good. I relistened last night.

championing the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Surprisingly close for #1, wow.

skip, Monday, 1 October 2012 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

My ballot:

ALBUMS:
1. Blue
2. Court & Spark
3. For The Roses
4. Ladies of the Canyon
5. Hejira

TRACKS:
1. All I Want
2. Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire
3. Carey
4. Free Man in Paris
5. Amelia
6. You Turn Me On I'm a Radio
7. California
8. Chelsea Morning
9. In France They Kiss on Main Street
10. Barangrill
11. Help Me
12. Conversation
13. Both Sides Now
14. A Case of You
15. Coyote
16. The Last Time I Saw Richard
17. Harry's House-Centerpiece
18. Woodstock
19. The Jungle Line
20. Morning Morgantown

Only Harry's House-Centerpiece didn't place.

skip, Friday, 5 October 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

The Priest should've placed:

TRACKS

1. California
2. Edith And The Kingpin
3. Carey
4. Rainy Night House
5. The Priest
6. Down To You
7. Talk To Me
8. Car On A Hill
9. All I Want
10. One Week Last Summer

11. Morning Morgantown
12. The Arrangement
13. This Place
14. The Hissing Of Summer Lawns
15. Roses Blue
16. Court And Spark
17. For Free
18. Black Crow
19. Blue
20. Off Night Backstreet

ALBUMS

1. Ladies Of The Canyon
2. Hissing Of Summer Lawns
3. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter
4. Hejira
5. Court And Spark

Ismael Klata, Friday, 5 October 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

All of Canada thanks you.

1. “Carey” (40)
2. “Chelsea Morning” (36)
3. “The Circle Game” (33)
4. “Both Sides Now” (30)
5. “Big Yellow Taxi” (28)
6. “Urge for Going” (26)
7. “Night in the City” (25)
8. “Cactus Tree” (24)
9. “Ladies from the Canyon” (23)
10. “Free Man in Paris” (22)

clemenza, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:23 (five years ago) Permalink

great poll mordy, very enlightening! thanks!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Wait, Mordy, did you count my ballot? I put in a lone point for "Travelogue" that I don't see on the results. No matter, here it is:

The Last Time I Saw Richard
Hejira
Passion Play
Black Crow
Otis and Marlena (Travelogue)
The Sire of Sorrow (Travelogue)
Amelia
Conversation
Nothing can be done
The Wolf that lives in Lindsey
Coyote
Help Me
A Case Of You
Raised on Robbery
For The Roses
All I Want
Shiny Toys
River
God must be a Boogie Man
The Arrangement

Blue
Hejira
Night Ride Home
Court and Spark
Travelogue

I didn't vote for any tracks from "Hissing", which I love 100%, but for some reason the individual songs don't resonate nearly as much as the ones on "Hejira" (which dominated my ballot). I think my inclusion of "Shiny Toys" (from "Dog eat dog") was more childhood nostalgia than anything else.

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, that's 1-50, Richard was my #1

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Just checked and it doesn't look like I ever received your ballot. Sorry!

Mordy, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:44 (five years ago) Permalink

S'okay, great work on the poll!

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink

I just double checked and found it in the Spam folder. Only ballot that went there. So sorry. I feel really bad. :(

Mordy, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

*I actually found Sund4r's first ballot in there too -- but he resent his before track tabulation so I caught it. I didn't even think to check the Spam folder...

Mordy, Friday, 5 October 2012 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

1.Shades Of Scarlet Conquering
2.Edith And The Kingpin
3.Help Me
4.Amelia
5.Black Crow
6.Ladies Man
7.Don't Interupt The Sorrow
8.Car On The Hill
9.Herjira
10.Jericho
11.Free Man In Paris
12.Same Situation 
13.Talk To Me
14.All I Want
15.Coyote
16.In France They Kiss On Main Street
17.Little Green
18.River
19.Number One
20.My Secret Place

1.Herjira
2.Hissing Of Summer Lawns
3.Court And Spark
4.Blue
5.Don Juan's Reckless Daughter

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Friday, 5 October 2012 21:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks, Mordy! This was great.

My ballot:

Tracks:
1) Both Sides Now
2) Amelia
3) A Case of You
4) Black Crow
5) Blue
6) The Wolf That Lives in Lindsay
7) Help Me
8) All I Want
9) Paprika Plains
10) The Jungle Line
11) Let the Wind Carry Me
12) For the Roses
13) Song for Sharon
14) The Fiddle and the Drum
15) The Arrangement
16) Carey
17) Chelsea Morning
18) I Had a King

Albums (not counted):
1) Hejira
2) Blue
3) Clouds
4) For the Roses
5) Ladies of the Canyon

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 5 October 2012 22:12 (five years ago) Permalink

This came close to being the first poll where all of my selections placed....

Almost as soon as i submitted my ballot i began thinking i ranked "Help Me" and "Coyote" way too low. Bumping up Coyote a couple of notches would have pushed it ahead of "Both Sides Now", not bad for a song I thought would barely place at all. My low "Help Me" placement likely due to overfamiliarity, but i normally try to avoid allowing that to affect my ranking.

1. I Don't Know Where I Ttand
2. Both Sides Now
3. Free Man in Paris
4. You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio
5. Chelsea Morning
6. Raised on Robbery
7. People's Parties
8. A Case of You
9. The Circle Game
10. The Same Situation
11. Woodstock
12. Coyote
13. The Last Time I Saw Richard
14. The Hissing of Summer Lawns
15. Help Me
16. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter
17. Car On a Hill
18. My Old Man
19. Trouble Child
20. Big Yellow Taxi

Lee626, Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:59 (five years ago) Permalink

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Lee626, Saturday, 6 October 2012 04:00 (five years ago) Permalink

01 Both Sides, Now
02 Carey
03 The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey
04 Come In From The Cold
05 The Hissing Of Summer Lawns
06 The Jungle Line
07 Refuge Of The Roads
08 Car On A Hill
09 Woodstock
10 Paprika Plains
11 You Turn Me On I'm A Radio
12 A Case Of You
13 Amelia
14 Chelsea Morning
15 For The Roses
16 Conversation
17 Song For Sharon
18 Morning Morgantown
19 Same Situation
20 Big Yellow Taxi

etc, Saturday, 6 October 2012 04:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Tracks

01 The Hissing Of Summer Lawns
02 The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey
03 Don't Interrupt The Sorrow
04 The Jungle Line
05 All I Want
06 This Flight Tonight
07 Free Man In Paris
08 Harlem In Havana
09 Coyote
10 God Must Be A Boogie Man
11 Woman Of Heart And Mind

12 Edith And The Kingpin
13 Marcie
14 Chelsea Morning
15 In France They Kiss On Main Street
16 The Arrangement
17 Tin Angel
18 I Had A King

19 Morning Morgantown
20 Paprika Plains

LPs
01 The Hissing Of Summer Lawns
02 Blue
03 Mingus
04 For The Roses
05 Hejira

Jeff W, Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:17 (five years ago) Permalink

1. Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire
2. Trouble Child
3. A Case of You
4. Urge for Going
5. Song for Sharon
6. Barangrill
7. Let the Wind Carry Me
8. Dreamland
9. Lesson in Survival
10. Carey
11. The Last Time I Saw Richard
12. Night Ride Home
13. Refuge of the Roads
14. Down to You
15. Sisotowbell Lane
16. Turbulent Indigo
17. Why Do Fools Fall in Love?
18. For Free
19. All I Want
20. Happiness is the Best Face Lift

banjoboy, Saturday, 6 October 2012 14:20 (five years ago) Permalink

-there is a Mermaid Cafe on Toronto island and as such I cannot so much as step foot on the island without delightedly and obsessively singing Carey
-A Case of You was my #1, Richard #2, Twisted #3.
-check out Joni doing "Me and My Uncle" on YouTube in '65 /stumbled across that the other day
-being at the cottage, I want to listen to only Joni
-listened to case of you covers on YT last night, are there any good ones? I expected more of you Prince, Tori
-"I could drink a case of you and still be on my feet" = you're weak? Never knew if that was a love song or breakup song or both

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 6 October 2012 14:23 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought it meant "you're mean but I can take it"

Ówen P., Saturday, 6 October 2012 14:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh you're a mean old Daddy but I love you? I could see that. :) I definitely thought in a way it was the prettiest dis track ever recorded.. "Constantly in the darkness .. If you want me I'll be at the bar.."

The "oh, Canada!" In that song stirs me far more than our actual anthem.

Great poll Mordy, thank you!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 6 October 2012 15:07 (five years ago) Permalink

1. Refuge on the Road
2. Help Me
3. Woman of Heart and Mind
4. The Last Time I Saw Richard
5. Court and Spark
6. Barandgrill
7. Just Like This Train
8. Don’t Interrupt This Sorrow
9. A Song For Sharon
10. Carey
11. A Case of You
12. Trouble Child
13. Both Sides Now (2000 version)
14. Come In From the Cold
15. In France They Kiss on Main Street
16. Hejira
17. Little Green
18. You Turn Me On (I’m a Radio)
19. The Same Situation
20. Good Friends

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 October 2012 15:10 (five years ago) Permalink

OF the road, of course

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 October 2012 15:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks for running this one, Mordy -- I wish I'd been able to pull enough attention together to vote in this one, but it was not to be.

Death Grits 2 (WmC), Saturday, 6 October 2012 15:21 (five years ago) Permalink

@ FFS. The US/Can duality of all those singers (Leonard lives in Mtl, Joni lives in L.A., Buffy lives in Hawaii, Neil lives ?) never had any interest to me, I mean, it doesn't seem all that worthwhile a discussion talking about which member of The Band lived where and for how long. Except with "Blue". On the whole it's an album about place, the island in "Carey", Vegas in "This Flight Tonight", getting out of California in "River", going back to California in "California". But there it is, the most understated and affecting moment on the record is that "Oh Canada", neither a celebration or a putdown, just an acknowledgement. I think it's one of the reasons I never LOVE-loved "California", the sentiment is, in comparison, closer to a Beach Boys-style kind of gimme than any of the other songs.

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 6 October 2012 15:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I agree completely (I imagine that FFS was FFM? :). It pisses me off a little that California is about California - I get it, great place, but this is such a poetic land and it does hurt that she creates such beautiful songs about her travels and so few about our homeland! Should've given Ontario in the summer a few more chances, Joni. (I have never been to the west coast, I'm biased obviously.)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 6 October 2012 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

haha yeah sorry, my fingers are just used to typing ffs all the time, too many diary entries i s'pose

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 6 October 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

AND tbh I think it's very Canadian of Canadian-born songwriters to ~not~ make references to cities and provinces, or, when they do so, to do so in an not-necessarily-flattering light ("I hate Winnipeg" i.e.)

flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 6 October 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

-"I could drink a case of you and still be on my feet" = you're weak? Never knew if that was a love song or breakup song or both

yeah i always thought this was a put-down, i never realised until recently some ppl parse it as 'you're just so awesome i could drink a whole bunch of you', wikipedia says it is a song about 'infatuation' which is just ???

set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Saturday, 6 October 2012 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

i saw a busker playing the appalachian dulcimer today.

set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Saturday, 6 October 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

My ballot cuts off at Blue:

01 Tin Angel
02 Little Green
03 I Had a King
04 River
05 A Case Of You
06 Blue
07 I Don't Know Where I Stand
08 That Song About the Midway
09 The Last Time I Saw Richard
10 Marcie
11 This Flight Tonight
12 Conversation
13 Roses Blue
14 Nathan La Franeer
15 Cactus Tree
16 Michael From Mountains
17 The Gallery
18 I Think I Understand
19 Chelsea Morning
20 Rainy Night House

"Tin Angel" should have placed - U R all stupid etc.

Kent Burt, Sunday, 7 October 2012 04:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks for doing this poll Mordy!

My ballot:

ALBUMS:

Hejira
Night Ride Home
Blue
The Hissing Of Summer Lawns
For The Roses

SONGS:

Come In From The Cold
Hejira
The Last Time I Saw Richard
Passion Play (When All The Slaves Are Free)
A Case of You
Amelia
Edith And the Kingpin
Let The Wind Carry Me
Two Grey Rooms
The Boho Dance
Court And Spark
Lessons In Survival
Song For Sharon
Shades Of Scarlet Conquering
Same Situation
All I Want
Coyote
This Flight, Tonight
Furry Sings The Blues
Both Sides, Now (2000 Version)

Tim F, Sunday, 7 October 2012 04:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Wow, I better check out Night Ride Home.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 7 October 2012 04:53 (five years ago) Permalink

That was a strategic placement in a way "Come In From The Cold" wasn't - in truth it's on a level with Hissing for me. I had a feeling Blue wouldn't really need my help.

But Night Ride Home did sneak three tunes into my top ten, and I could have easily put "Cherokee Louse" and "Nothing Can Be Done" in the second half of my songs list except I started to feel like I was just throwing votes away.

Tim F, Sunday, 7 October 2012 05:16 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4foLKDlcE

Mordy, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 12:34 (five years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I just finished reading/listening to all of this. Cheers Mordy and everyone who voted for a good education.

"It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina." (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 10 November 2012 16:58 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Man why did I not bother with this? Maybe guilt that I only know four Joni albums well: 1971-76. But those four albums mean so much to me.

jaymc, Saturday, 5 January 2013 06:51 (four years ago) Permalink

But wait, you say, there were five albums between '71 and '76. I forgot, as I often do, about For the Roses. Need to give it more of a chance, IIRC.

jaymc, Saturday, 5 January 2013 06:52 (four years ago) Permalink

Listening to Ian & Sylvia's greatest hits with a cover of Circle Game on it right now. :D

Came home depressed last night & put on Blue and sung along loudly to the whole album. Made me feel so much better.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 5 January 2013 16:48 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

After about two weeks of obsessing over everything she did from 1975-79 I'm a little stunned at how little of it actually made it into this poll. Part or me thinks there are different kinds of Joni fans -- pre-jazz and post. Judging by some or the comments here, that doesn't mean you exclusively like one or the other but that often only one makes you an obsessive.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 23:05 (four years ago) Permalink

And as a total latecomer to the party on this stuff, what I guess surprises me is that with the reappraisal of that era that's taken place since (ie, PFM calling Hissing her "most timeless" record) I kind of figured that bifurcation would have been left in the 70s.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 23:10 (four years ago) Permalink

"Paprika Plains" finally started sounding lovely and strange instead of diaphanous and strange last week. Talk about a sleeper.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 23:19 (four years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

just wanted to say, I don't know Joni's music well enough that I didn't participate in this poll at all, but listening to the Spotify results playlist is making my day, thanks for the crash course you guys

Algerian Horsebeater (some dude), Monday, 20 January 2014 18:08 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

I may be an unusual JM fan in that I listen to her almost entirely for the sound of her music.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:38 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

count me in, though reading Mordy's choice excerpts make it clear I'm missing out

it's not as if I don't pay attention to the lyrics at all, I just mostly notice fragments, certain phrases and motifs...

anyway, great poll, Joni's the best!

niels, Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:04 (one week ago) Permalink

We didn't talk enough in this poll.

Tim F, Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:07 (one week ago) Permalink

how did i miss it? just listening to that bbc concert with james taylor from 1970 where john peel speaks the introduction. there are already quite a lot songs which later were published on blue on it (carey, california, river, my old man, a case of you) and her soprano is really perfect here. not as high-pitch as on the first album but still very girlish and innocent sounding. and all that great in between song banter. where she explains that the circle game was her uplifting answer to that kind of sad song from that unkown young canadian folk singer whose name she doesn't mention. the song was sugar mountain.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:28 (one week ago) Permalink

there's some discussion upthread about the meaning of being able to drink a case of somebody and still be on your feet, and while it is similar in structure to "I eat x like you for breakfast", I don't see how it could mean anything but I can't get enough of you

niels, Sunday, 12 November 2017 10:14 (one week ago) Permalink

She seems to be putting the guy down in the first verse, though.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 November 2017 13:57 (one week ago) Permalink

It could just as easily mean "you don't do anything for me (anymore)".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 November 2017 14:24 (one week ago) Permalink

"Hejira" was my favourite song in the world at 14, I printed out all the lyrics and stuck them on my bedroom wall.

― Tim F, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:42 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I am now 14 year old Tim F

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:01 (one week ago) Permalink

xp well she's certainly teasing the guy, answering his metaphysical boast with an acerbic and then a prosaic remark, but anyway since the next thing she remembers is drawing his face on a map of Canada it's reasonable to suggest there's also a level of vulnerability, even love (though it's ofc slightly undercut by the drawing being on the back of a cartoon coaster lit by a tv screen)

what makes the central metaphor unlikely as a putdown imo are
a) the singer's fetichization of the lover - even if she does not explicitly desire drinking a case of the lover, the repeated focus on the act suggests infatuation
b) the beautiful preceding lines:

Oh you are in my blood like holy wine
You taste so bitter
And so sweet

If you wanted to criticize wine for being weak or harmless, this is not how you would describe it.

niels, Sunday, 12 November 2017 21:49 (one week ago) Permalink


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