YAMANTAKA // SONIC TITAN - YT//ST

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This is so good (at pushing my closet stoner buttons?).

Hits a spot very close to the one Boris hits.

And I'm I'm starting a thread even though I have nothing to say about it really.

For all the outfit's emphasis on their multi-media rock opera approach to things and the ongoing narratives behind their work, this feels very complete and satisfying as a recording. It's short though, so I just keep listening to it.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 September 2012 14:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Great band. If all goes well with show hopping at pop montreal this week, I'll be seeing the opera.

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 17 September 2012 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I like this record a ton. It sounds to me like the description of Boris I got from people who tried and failed to push them on me over the years.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Found them on Bandcamp & was moderately impressed, then few weeks later saw they'd been added to the bill of the Jeff Mangum ATP. Made an effort to catch them & was blown away. Rushed straight to the merch stall after & ordered the record (they'd had trouble getting merch into country, so had nothing left to sell). Record took an age to show up, & is currently in the To Be Played pile...need to get on to that.

Wandering Boy Poet, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, their live show is great - saw them at ATP and then again in NYC a few months back.

atari era stylings of (seandalai), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:39 (five years ago) Permalink

i missed about half their set when i saw them but what i saw was pretty amazing

TOP FEMALE LAWYER & CARTOONIST FOR 2011: (donna rouge), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:43 (five years ago) Permalink

okay, this is fantastic, but i don't think the boris comparisons make much sense, at least as far as this album is concerned (haven't seen them live). YT//ST remind me of deerhoof more than boris.

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I should mention this is really hooky and catchy, rhythmic and melodic. I have bits and pieces of this album going through my head all day long at the moment.

My making the Boris comparison might simply be due to lack of familiarity with similar bands. On the other hand, they do mention their admiration for Boris in interviews (not that that guarantees sounding alike, but it seems a lot close to home than if they mentioned, say, their admiration for the Spinners).

As for Deerhoof, I think I did possibly like their overall sound except for the vocals which killed it for me.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 September 2012 23:09 (five years ago) Permalink

this is sounding great. kinda like deerhoof meets magma-esque grandeur - or the ruins version of magma in 'symphonica' or koenjihyakkei minus the extreme-technicality and overall wackiness, dunno*. with the ocasional - and mostly welcoming? - nod to krautrock's equally cosmic and pastoral vibes and, err, kate bush in 'oak of guernica'?

*tbh, i don't listen to those albums in a very long time, so i might be totally off-handed here. and i guess it's the japanese factor that propels this association. either way, they don't really remind me of boris.

rusty_allen, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 00:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I really like the album, obv. I only recently found out that they do a whole 'opera' live! Let us know how it is if you go, rrrobyn. Despite living in the cultural mecca of Regina, I sometimes miss out on being able to see cool things.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 01:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks to Sund4r, by the way, for recommending this album to me. (Maybe you are surprised to see I already started a thread about it.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 03:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I especially like the watashi-WA (if that's what it even is) in "Hoshi Neko."

Yes, okay, I guess the Boris comparison is flawed and misleading. It makes some sense in my own idiosyncratic set of musical categories, but it's probably not so useful in describing this band to others.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 04:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I especially like the watashi-WA (if that's what it even is) in "Hoshi Neko."

Haha, YES.

This band was a revelation when I heard the album in January, and were again when I saw them live this past spring. Fantastic musicians. I'd love to hear their new opera.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 05:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Watashi-waaaaAAAAAAAA

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

great band, great DRUMS sound

nostormo, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Yes. Would it be self-parody for me to say that the way the drums are recorded on "Queens" (and maybe elsewhere--but it's especially noticeable there) reminds me of Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana (especially Shukyo)?

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

watashi-WA

Does this mean "I am"? (I looked it up quickly.) Or do you just mean you like the way it sounds?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I just like the way it sounds on that song where they sing it a lot.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

their show was totally bizarre and great at pop montreal - first half was operatic, diy queered fashion drama style, not for everyone but i was into it - second half (there was an intermission!) was much more a rock show, which ruled

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 24 September 2012 21:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Some of the live clips I've now gotten around to watching seem pretty iffy. I miss the studio effects and polish in this case.

At around 3:12 "Reverse Crystal/Murder of a Spider" definitely reminds me of a Boris - Smile sort of jump (with a little hint of old Boredoms near the end). As always, I might be making these comparisons because I don't listen to that much music close to this.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 28 September 2012 17:46 (five years ago) Permalink

saw them the last time they played toronto. while the live experience isn't as sharp as the record, they're still a wonderfully fun band to see in person.

borntohula, Saturday, 29 September 2012 00:46 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGOqU8mJ1Ic

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 6 October 2012 20:04 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhxrH1pWRVw

nostormo, Saturday, 6 October 2012 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Weird, I thought I had already posted that. It was on another thread apparently, but yeah that belongs here more than the Bowie cover.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 6 October 2012 20:26 (five years ago) Permalink

hope they will be more focused on the next album

nostormo, Saturday, 6 October 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I think YT//ST is plenty focused.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 6 October 2012 21:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Or did you mean more focus on working on it rather than one off things like the Bowie cover (for someone else's compilation)?

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 6 October 2012 21:57 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

The guitar on "Lamia" really really reminds me of Fred Giannelli (not that he was particularly original (though I liked his sound), but this is so close to what he went for a lot of the time that it stands out).

redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:29 (five years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I think I underrated this record. As I said, I liked it a ton but I'm head over heels in love with it now. "A Star Over Pureland" is perfect.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:24 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New single is great:

http://pitchfork.com/features/update/9189-yamantaka-sonic-titan/

(Thanks, sund4r.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 24 August 2013 04:47 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH3X4D0NyS8

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 13 September 2013 05:53 (four years ago) Permalink

No

nostormo, Friday, 13 September 2013 07:54 (four years ago) Permalink

Yes

emil.y, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:14 (four years ago) Permalink

Hell yes.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:29 (four years ago) Permalink

Maybe

nostormo, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:10 (four years ago) Permalink

definitely, love this band

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 13 September 2013 14:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm convinced

nostormo, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:28 (four years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

I like this one better than "One." The piano in the opening even reminds me of Matthew Shipp a bit. And let's not discard anything prematurely, like the psychedelic inheritance.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/16171-windflower/

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 03:31 (four years ago) Permalink

Has LJ heard these guys yet?

emil.y, Friday, 11 October 2013 11:38 (four years ago) Permalink

Anyway, I prefer 'One' to 'Windflower', but I can see the latter working really well as an album track. Call me crazy but I hear a certain Trish Keenan phrasing to some of those lines?!

emil.y, Friday, 11 October 2013 11:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh! On it soon's I'm home :)

check yr poptimism (imago), Friday, 11 October 2013 11:59 (four years ago) Permalink

This was the one that first got me into them, but I reckon 'One' or 'Lamia' will hit your tastes quicker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k472YAVzoGU

emil.y, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:09 (four years ago) Permalink

It's a good record. Expect a full review from me somewhere soon.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 October 2013 14:09 (four years ago) Permalink

that was groovy - very melancholic keys. may have a root around for more

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 20:56 (four years ago) Permalink

oh now this Windflower is what I'm TALKING about :D

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:01 (four years ago) Permalink

Now listening to One. Shit me I made a good decision to spin out in that awful thread earlier

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:03 (four years ago) Permalink

You can still stream their debut album on their bandcamp site, I think. Also on spotify.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:06 (four years ago) Permalink

Really loving Windflower though.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:07 (four years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89iO84vztyM

EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:08 (four years ago) Permalink

Only issue I have is that the closing rave-up sticks with the same riff throughout when it's crying out for an escalation or change-up. Apart from that, great. Gonna listen to the debut album now.

Windflower is the best one I've heard so far.

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:08 (four years ago) Permalink

I've never listened to the albums after having seen the live show last year, which was excellent. Thanks for the thread revival.

beautifully, unapologetically plastic (mh), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:10 (four years ago) Permalink

If you go to the bandcamp site, be sure to click on the first track rather than the button for the entire album, because for me anyway it's been defaulting to the second track when I used the play album button.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:12 (four years ago) Permalink

Oh this is GOOD. Much wilder and weirder. 'One' for all its virtues DOES feel a tad...y'know, like Pitchfork reviewed one of their albums and hinted that it might go ballistic on the next one if they dumb up their act a bit and make an indie-dance hit. I'm not going through Gang Gang Dance again. But I think they're mostly on the right side of that line.

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:18 (four years ago) Permalink

Look, this is how the Pitchfork review of Windflower ends:

The song's massive acoustic architecture demands that Yamantaka // Sonic Titan eventually find their way to an arena.

fuckoffPitchforkfuckoffPitchforkfuckoffPitchfork

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:20 (four years ago) Permalink

loved the latest ggd record

swmp thing (wins), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:22 (four years ago) Permalink

shipp namedrop has me intrigued about this

swmp thing (wins), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:23 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm also concerned that the new album has much more boring songtitles than the first one, but open minds. This first album is really great - I have no idea where it's going next but it seems to

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:23 (four years ago) Permalink

What happened to contenderizer re: this band. He popped in, said the first album was fantastic, and was never heard from again on this thread. Or is he on ILM sabbatical?

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:25 (four years ago) Permalink

shipp namedrop has me intrigued about this

Could just be my idiosyncratic way of hearing it, but the piano at the beginning of Windflower does keep reminding me of Shipp. Maybe it doesn't quite have his gravitas (a word I think I've seen thrown around on another thread recently), but it's in the same ballpark. That's just a minor part of the song though. More than anything it is pretty vocally oriented psychedelia.

the new album has much more boring songtitles than the first one, but open minds.

Boring song titles are a good thing.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:27 (four years ago) Permalink

It's a departure from the debut, but I think in a good one. A Very coherent and beautifully recorded record. Begs to be heard on vinyl because of the sequencing.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:28 (four years ago) Permalink

GGD and others of that ilk irritate the shit out of me through no fault of their own because they're hailed by Pitchfork idiots as the cutting edge of contemporary avant-pop when they're actually competent indie-dance. This has much more to it than that though. Keep the negativity away.

Actually, Battles might have been the more notable recent victims of Pitchfork dumbology/regression-to-indie, even if that 2nd record had a couple of jams on it

Oh, so is the new one good? Yay!

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:30 (four years ago) Permalink

no the latest is eye contact from a few years ago which I'm guessing is what you're on about! Battles are a much better example of what you're talking about in my opinion (ie I don't like em)

swmp thing (wins), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:33 (four years ago) Permalink

The new YT//ST mate :P

Eye Contact irritated me because that Glass Jar song was hyped as the most monumental thing ever and turned out to be a decent dance-rock jam with some psych touches

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:34 (four years ago) Permalink

(Is it me or is the board really poppin' today? Even more eclectic mishmash of threads up at the moment.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:36 (four years ago) Permalink

I kicked their arses, they responded. Great team-talk imo

imago, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:38 (four years ago) Permalink

drew25kra 1 day ago

Yes, because there are so many groups out there wearing kabuki make-up using Iroquoian chants and metallic guitar riffs and blending them in a way that's organic yet catchy...so mediocre, bro.

Lol.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:56 (four years ago) Permalink

Streaming:

http://pitchfork.com/advance/261-uzu/

monster_xero, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:09 (four years ago) Permalink

What happened to contenderizer re: this band. He popped in, said the first album was fantastic, and was never heard from again on this thread. Or is he on ILM sabbatical?

― _Rudipherous_, Friday, October 11, 2013 2:25 PM (1 week ago)

meditating. took about ten minutes of the stream to get me to order a copy. it's only a shame that there are so many other albums out there that aren't this.

(!!!)

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 00:15 (four years ago) Permalink

hell, if if there wasn't any music, just the graphics, they'd still be one of my favorite bands going

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 00:16 (four years ago) Permalink

not boris or deerhoof, gundam grimes

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 00:18 (four years ago) Permalink

Whalesong sounds amazing

nostormo, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 11:44 (four years ago) Permalink

i prefer sonic titan to yamantaka

what is your favorite of the two?

nostormo, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 11:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Boredoms for the masses

nostormo, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 12:07 (four years ago) Permalink

lack of constant was the biggest problem of yt//st
it seems like a problem here too.

no immediate catchy bombastic tubes like Hoshi Neko, sounds mellower but overall fine (1st listen)

nostormo, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 12:11 (four years ago) Permalink

catchy bombastic tube = "one", toward the back end

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:01 (four years ago) Permalink

what is your favorite of the two?

whoever draws the animals (if that's one of them)

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:02 (four years ago) Permalink

not sure i see lack of consistency as a problem, maybe a virtue, enjoy both albums as end-to-end listens (tho still processing the 2nd)

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:03 (four years ago) Permalink

I think the production on the second one helps a ton. The clarity highlights the drumming, and allows for a broader range of vocal styles.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:08 (four years ago) Permalink

I've been living with UZU for about a month now (somehow managed to find a used copy a month before release, which is strange but I'm not complaining). Serious grower, so definitely give it a few more spins nostormo. It's pretty much become my fave album of the year.

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 25 October 2013 19:13 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Holy cow, I hadn't heard of these guys until a couple days ago and now this may be one of my favorites of the year. UZU is insane, I'm really loving it. I'm surprised folks aren't going more nuts over them.

Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Sunday, 10 November 2013 15:41 (four years ago) Permalink

me too! seems like something that would appeal to a broad cross-section of adventurous listeners.

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:38 (four years ago) Permalink

I agree. I think it's much more welcoming than the debut. The appeal is broader and there are ways into it from a lot of different musical angles.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:45 (four years ago) Permalink

Idk. Like the firstvrecord better

nostormo, Sunday, 10 November 2013 18:52 (four years ago) Permalink

the wretched will drown
with the salt on their lips
the stars at their feet
fanning flame to the mist
where the silent men live
and refuse to die
hand in hand they ride
into battle with the tide
to victory, a song...

after spending a bit more time w uzu, i do agree that it's uneven - but that's only a problem when i think of it as a collection of discrete songs. certain passages might feel incomplete absent the rest, but the whole works amazingly well as a front-to-back listening experience. while it's narrative, like the best prog rock albums, it feels less like a story than a journey. i can't call it complete success by pop's standards, but it's immersive, varied, moving and, best of all, remarkably catchy (at least in moments). tbh, it's hard to imagine the existence of people who wouldn't enjoy "atlanta", "whalesong" and "seasickness pt. 2". then again, it's hard to imagine a lot of supposedly real things.

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:22 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

UZU is growing on me and feel like it holds together more, over repeated listens.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 7 December 2013 02:26 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

whoa well done whoever nominated 'whalesong' for the EOY, this v v much bangs

VENIET IMBER (imago), Thursday, 9 January 2014 16:31 (four years ago) Permalink

:) It's a good 'un

Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Thursday, 9 January 2014 16:34 (four years ago) Permalink

Sadly cut off at 26 in my now-finalised traxballot. Give it an honourable gold star or something. Strikes me as the work of a band who are finding their way. The next album is probably going to determine whether I'm truly a Y//ST fan

VENIET IMBER (imago), Thursday, 9 January 2014 17:41 (four years ago) Permalink

Whalesong is the sh-t! This will make my ballot

fit for one who twerks and cries (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 9 January 2014 19:36 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Been playing this record a lot over the last week or so, I like it how it fuses a lot of the psych-folk stuff I like with preposterous pantomime rock bombast. It's deeply silly but very enjoyable.

Does remind me a bit of GGD in some unfathomable way as well.

Matt DC, Saturday, 1 February 2014 15:16 (four years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

New song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTP1ku405rc

? (seandalai), Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:15 (one month ago) Permalink

I listened a few times yesterday and I'm still working out what I think of it. It goes to some interesting places, starting out almost like a pop ballad, building up to heavy riffing and lead guitar triplets, all in 4 minutes. Not sure if it all works for me but there are some satisfying moments.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 January 2018 17:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah my hot take is that it could work a lot better in the context of an album, as a standalone single I don't really get what it is.

? (seandalai), Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:06 (one month ago) Permalink

Upthread I claim to have listened to the debut and loved it...but I have no recollection of it at all! Will have to revisit

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah my hot take is that it could work a lot better in the context of an album, as a standalone single I don't really get what it is.

― ? (seandalai)

I get what you mean, but I think knowing their reference points and other endeavours (e.g. game soundtracking) it might be more fruitful to think of it as an opening theme? I'm hyped for new YT//ST stuff, anyway.

emil.y, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:18 (one month ago) Permalink

whoa this new track! get excited ilm

#TeamHailing (imago), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Hey, this is all right. Never heard of this band before.

you can make fun of birthday parties all you want (ultros ultros-ghali), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:37 (one month ago) Permalink

I like it. It does seem to lack the heft to be a single, but it's still good and could play out nicely on an album.

Salt Lake City Motorcycle Accident Nerve Damage Lawyer (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:26 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Okay, 'Hungry Ghost' is rad.

https://exclaim.ca/music/article/yamantaka_sonic_titan-hungry_ghost

emil.y, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:33 (one week ago) Permalink


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