Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagon/Ecologyst

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"Now you tell me how you can live in an apartment with the pieces of a person rotting away with decay and not know?"
"I was totally sick to tell the truth"
"Washing bones why were you washing bones?"
"Cause they were smelly"

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Blue Flowers 10
Earth People 9
I'm Destructive 6
Girl Let Me Touch You 6
Bear Witness 5
Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man 4
No Awareness 4
3000 2
Earth People (Earth Planet Mix) 1
On Production 1
Waiting List (DJ Shadow / Automator Mix) 0
Elective Surgery 0
Biology 101 0
Wild And Crazy 0
Dr. Octagon 0
A Visit To The Gynecologyst 0
General Hospital 0
Technical Difficulties 0
I Got To Tell You 0
Intro 0


jed_, Monday, 17 September 2012 00:11 (eight years ago) link

blue flowers

Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Monday, 17 September 2012 00:27 (eight years ago) link

haven't listened to this in years and have no idea if it holds up, but "Girl Let Me Touch You" is classic

would be "Real Raw" if it was on this poll

fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 17 September 2012 00:34 (eight years ago) link

there are so many classics here but the answer is easy and it's "I'm Destructive".

jed_, Monday, 17 September 2012 00:39 (eight years ago) link

no awareness
blue flowers gonna win.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 17 September 2012 00:45 (eight years ago) link

Earth People

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 September 2012 00:50 (eight years ago) link

Earth People

although I almost voted for "Intro", just because I remember listening to it over & over with friends and laughing repeatedly.

dronestreet, Monday, 17 September 2012 02:32 (eight years ago) link

Blue Flowers
strings
Sailing/Up Up & Away both redeemed by it
shoobedowop

pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:39 (eight years ago) link

I guess I quote this album to myself all the time
psychedelic this time I'm coming rainbow
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/cb/a/AAAAAmqERyQAAAAAAMumqw.jpg?v=1202670829000

pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:40 (eight years ago) link

is he weird

pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:41 (eight years ago) link

coppalating having sex

pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:41 (eight years ago) link

let me ruin this album for EVRYONE

pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:41 (eight years ago) link

Blue Flowers if only for Q-Bert's solo

centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:42 (eight years ago) link

The scratch solo in "Blue Flowers" was my answering machine message in high school :/

centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:42 (eight years ago) link

this is a weird coincidence.. i just bought the "mo wax" version (the tracklisting polled here), and i never realized the dreamworks version (the one i've been listening to since 14 years ago) had 3-4 exclusive songs and vice versa. i just heard "biology 101" and "on production" for the first time last week and was kind of blown away.

the version i'm used to has "real raw" "1977" & "blue flowers revisited"

billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 02:58 (eight years ago) link

it's probably somewhere in my 20 favorite records... choosing one song from this is not easy.

billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:00 (eight years ago) link

haven't listened to this in years and have no idea if it holds up

youre missing out

billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:01 (eight years ago) link

^^ thats the version I've always been familiar with as well

(xpost to billstevejim's last sentence)

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 September 2012 03:01 (eight years ago) link

Fave rap: No Awareness. Blue Flowers has a nice Bartok sample otherwise don't do much for me

E.I.E.I. (Ówen P.), Monday, 17 September 2012 03:04 (eight years ago) link

damn i havent thought about this in so long

Hungry4Ass, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:15 (eight years ago) link

i meant to vote for no awareness but i accidentally did bare witness

lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:54 (eight years ago) link

anyway no awareness has crazy internal rhythms

lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:56 (eight years ago) link

and of course, moose bumps

dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:59 (eight years ago) link

x^ appropriate typo from g∞n

Keith toured here a couple of months ago, as Dr Octagon, playing this in full

(I didn’t go bcz I’ve seen him as Kool Keith before and he was horrible)

┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Monday, 17 September 2012 04:00 (eight years ago) link

coppalating having sex

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Sunday, 16 September 2012 23:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha yeah this is totally ingrained in my brain
i feel like relistening would unearth/locate the derivation of a million other things like it too

let's get the banned back together (schlump), Monday, 17 September 2012 04:15 (eight years ago) link

youre missing out

― billstevejim, Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for real! was kinda afraid to hear this again because most automator stuff grates on me in 2012 but a lot of it still goes (this is on the dreamworks version, dont think ive ever heard the mo wax)

fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 17 September 2012 05:45 (eight years ago) link

the bit about there being a horse in the hospital and the Peter jackson samples are fun.
Can't think which song would be the bestest though. I have a lot of this on my walkman, possibly the whole lp and subsequently have bits popping up at random. Don't think I've sat down with the whole lp in years though.

Stevolende, Monday, 17 September 2012 10:14 (eight years ago) link

Bear Witness- great beat. But this whole album is classic.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 10:45 (eight years ago) link

Blue Flowers is the next-level moment on this album

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:11 (eight years ago) link

cirrhosis of the eye

fuck it, he's dead

dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:19 (eight years ago) link

Bear Witness by a country mile for me. It was always the track I would put on C90 mix tapes in the Walkman days.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:20 (eight years ago) link

Bear Witness is fine but how can you (not just you, all the people repping for it) pick the track with no Dr. Octagon on it

dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:24 (eight years ago) link

Blue Flowers is the next-level moment on this album

it is, but i have to vote for "i'm destructive"

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:27 (eight years ago) link

"Blue Flowers", but I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept, almost half-assed in delivery, yet entirely captivating.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:27 (eight years ago) link

taking a paient out of the bathroom into water

lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:28 (eight years ago) link

rock wid it

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:29 (eight years ago) link

i can't stop the blood

backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

and an all-time favorite: you need a bad operation

backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:57 (eight years ago) link

I think I may actually prefer the skits to the songs on this.

o. nate, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Grateful Dead - ROCK WIT IT

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:12 (eight years ago) link

production is interesting and the concept is cool, but the rhymes on this albums are pretty wack, and too self-consciously weird.

Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 17:13 (eight years ago) link

I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept

I think he took this from Cabin Boy, the Chris Elliott movie

dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 17:21 (eight years ago) link

xp u crazy Kool Keith is at the top of his game on this record.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:22 (eight years ago) link

I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept

I think he took this from Cabin Boy, the Chris Elliott movie

Totally possible. I couldn't make it 20 minutes into Cabin Boy.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 September 2012 17:24 (eight years ago) link

bear witness, i'm destructive, blue flowers - all great. i need to listen to this and think.

backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:57 (eight years ago) link

xp u crazy Kool Keith is at the top of his game on this record.

I don't consider lines like "Earth people / I am from California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" to be anywhere close to brilliant. The whole album is filled with these contrived left-field rhymes that don't really wow you so much as they just blend sci-fi and perverse porn themes into a half-assed mix. I'll give it credit for being different and quirky, especially within a genre that doesn't stray into weirdness very often, but most of the time, the rhyming just seems perfunctory and undeveloped, not clever and well-executed. I'd put this into a category of albums I like in theory, but whose execution actually isn't all that compelling.

Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:10 (eight years ago) link

i'm destructive

da croupier, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:12 (eight years ago) link

xp what genre would that be?

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:16 (eight years ago) link

rap concept album about your trip on bath salts?

backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:18 (eight years ago) link

xp what genre would that be?

I was really talking about rap music in general from that era.

Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:19 (eight years ago) link

if the genre is "rap" then I don't really know how to respond. Fair enough not liking the rapping, sweeping and incorrect generalisations not so cool.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:21 (eight years ago) link

xp!

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:21 (eight years ago) link

feel like the criticism of the lyrics is reasonable, his flow is bonkers tho

lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:23 (eight years ago) link

kissing mary j blige on earth was quite normal

r|t|c, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:24 (eight years ago) link

ya i mean the lyrics may be a lil too self consciously weird but its ok because theyre still funny

lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:25 (eight years ago) link

sweeping and incorrect generalisations not so cool.

what are some other sci-fi rap albums from 1996?

Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:26 (eight years ago) link

I don't consider lines like "Earth people / I am from California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" to be anywhere close to brilliant.

i don't know that "earth people" is the best showcase for KK's skills, but it's got some lines. "equator ex my chance to flex skills on ampex / with power meters and heaters gauge anti-freeze / octagon oxygen, aluminum intoxicants." isolating the repeated chorus hook as an example of bad rapping isn't a fair criticism. i think the rhyming is pretty clever, overall, even in its half-assedness. the nonsensical and often awkward goofiness of the whole project is a big part of its appeal.

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:27 (eight years ago) link

isolating the repeated chorus hook as an example of bad rapping isn't a fair criticism.

i called that out because i remembered it. but i'm also claiming that the rest of the album is littered with similarly half-assed and awkward rhymes, which you seem to agree with.

Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:29 (eight years ago) link

xp it's got a stream of consciousness quality too, IMO, that makes even the nonsensical stuff sound sort of plausible. Plus his amazing flow helps as well.

re.sci-fi rap albums from 1996: true enough not many, but your assertion was that rap is a genre that doesn't do weird, and that's demonstrably false.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:30 (eight years ago) link

it's actually "Earth people / New York and California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" fwiw. i mean if you don't like one you won;t like the other but it's still worth mentioning becaue it's a massive hook.

jed_, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:34 (eight years ago) link

your assertion was that rap is a genre that doesn't do weird, and that's demonstrably false.

i didn't phrase it right, but i was crediting it within the context of that time as being inventive. admittedly, i don't know too much about rap after the 2000s, but yes, i imagine it has a lot more subgenres now.

Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:37 (eight years ago) link

ya i mean the lyrics may be a lil too self consciously weird but its ok because theyre still funny

otm, and i like the way the lyrics kind of ping-pong between dumb doo-doo jokes, self-indulgent non-sequiturs and moments of genuinely unsettling psychedelic oddity. the album isn't so much a showcase for keith's rapping as it is a cabinet of curiosities, the focal point of each song shifting from moment to moment from keith's bugged-out nonsense to dan's creepy sci-fi soundscapes, from qbert's jaw-dropping cutting to skits and samples, all the weird little fragments on the margins. it's funny, catchy and more than a little scary. one of my favorite albums of its era.

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:54 (eight years ago) link

i had the original bulk recording LP braggin

lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:56 (eight years ago) link

it's "half sharkalligator half man"

billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 19:15 (eight years ago) link

My first thought was No Awareness, but I'll have to listen again.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:35 (eight years ago) link

Keith toured here a couple of months ago, as Dr Octagon, playing this in full

(I didn’t go bcz I’ve seen him as Kool Keith before and he was horrible)

saw him at ATP, at one point he just rapped the numbers from the dates on the back of a tour t-shirt some guy on stage was wearing and it was incredible, but it quickly devolved into really embarrassing poo and wee stuff.

ledge, Monday, 17 September 2012 21:29 (eight years ago) link

You can call 1-800-PeePee5 1-Doo-Doo. I'm in your corner.

jed_, Monday, 17 September 2012 21:50 (eight years ago) link

Keith can be fun live but even then only in a half-assed way

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:16 (eight years ago) link

You have bees flying around your rectum.

billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 23:57 (eight years ago) link

hammer... flame... i'm gettin ready to stab. jam it in.

billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 23:59 (eight years ago) link

blend sci-fi and perverse porn themes into a half-assed mix

I will listen to any album w/this description

pet carrier (Crabbits), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 01:52 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9VYzNUXGDA
blue Flowers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=fc8zdLQuZp0
Earth People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abky6hbKPpg&feature=related
halfsharkalligatorhalfman

Hadn't seen any of the videos until I was reminded by this thread and looked them up

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 09:56 (eight years ago) link

or maybe that's one official one and two fan ones.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 09:58 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:01 (eight years ago) link

either "i'm destructive" or "halfsharkalligatorhalfman"

billstevejim, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:00 (eight years ago) link

i remember seeing "Blue Flowers" on like MTV Amp

wood grain, chestnut / cody, CHESNUTT (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:15 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHNWt57Gklg

wasnt really a fan of rap in drum and bass usually, but this mix improved the on original imo.

dsb, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:23 (eight years ago) link

sailling
takes me away
to where i'm really going
shoo-be-do-wop

los blue jeans, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:37 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:01 (eight years ago) link

eight years pass...

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