Cardiacs: Classic or Dud?

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Indie noisemakers since the late seventies. Unfairly ignored or deservedly overlooked?

Phil A., Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I ordered a CD of theirs once. It was on order for weeks so I gave up.

Josh, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

2nd half of Cardiacs Live: total classic. The rest: whatever. Boy I first read this one as The *Cardigans*: Classic or Dud. ;)

Omar, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

i was going to ask this one at some point. strangely the cardiacs were quite popular at my school when i was about 13/14, something which i never did understand. (it was the baggy era...although in any era would have been strange)

i have a bit of a soft spot for them, but don't really remember anything they did. all their songs seemed to be called things like 'a man and a house and a big window'

could we turn this into a search and destroy, because i've just decided to buy some cardiacs records.

gareth, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

They were oddly popular at my school as well, at about the same time. Virtually everyone I knew who also liked the sort of stuff I was into at the time (Pixies, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Fugazi, baggy stuff, fraggle) had an inexplicable love of the Cardiacs. I hated them myself at the time; all that wacky proggery and pomposity were intolerable to my 15 year old self. I was re-exposed to them a couple of years ago after meeting another crazed fan but I still couldn't understand what the attraction was. So I'm afraid it has to be DUD.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Repulsively dud. Idiotic prog-wacky for the lower sixth.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

From what I've heard from some people in the know, Sing to God would be one to search (both parts).

Josh, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I quite liked their HEAVEN BORN AND EVER BRIGHT album, not least for the single "Day is Gone," but absolutely EVERYTHING they've done since (`92/`93 or so) has been virtually unlistenable. Masturbatory to a fault. Still, I suppose I can't play that fast or in odd time signatures, so I should pipe down then.

alex in nyc, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Just cos they play in weird time sigs doesn't make them prog. And they are not in the least bit pompous. If you've ever heard Tim Smith talking, he is a surprisingly unpretentious man. All that weird stuff just comes straight out of his strange little head and has more to do with very childish sensibilities rather than from any Yes-style drugged-up indulgence.

That said, what I've heard of "Archive Cardiacs" is painful in the extreme ("A must for all collectors of toneless drivel" according to the bands own sampler CD), so destroy that. Search the two minutes and thirteen seconds of perfection that is "To go off and things". At the very least it scared Radio 1's Simon Mayo, so that should count for something.

Phil A., Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Dud! No doubt about it. The absolute worst gig I have ever seen (and I've been to plenty of gigs, bad or otherwise)was The Cardiacs and Levitation way back in 1992 or thereabouts. Not only did I have to suffer the sub prog rock bilge that Levitation insisted on playing, but then I had to endure an hour or so of the godawful, psuedo alternative bollocks that The Cardiacs pass off as music. Oh the horror!

Eamonn, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

we just won't forgive or forget - they are DUD beyond DUD

Eamonn - im having a bad week - but looking forward to saturday's party !

Geordie Racer, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
Cardiacs have never fitted into any of those categories bandied above... first and foremost they write superbly catchy pop songs; as for odd timesigs and strange structures - why the hell not? There are some good samples of reletively recent stuff here, so rather than relying on ancient memories of a gig eight years ago, have a listen: http://www.cardiacs.com/button.html - that includes an example of poppier, more 'normal' stuff and two exerpts of the more Zappa-ish tracks (which are still insanely catchy, and thankfully lacking the Zappa wackyness) Then there's a dozen tracks at http://www.mp3.com/cardiacs - try 'Blind In Safety' and say that isnt something delicate and beautiful

Its true, Cardiacs are the least pompous band on the planet. They may be the most emotional... try listening to them more than once, you may notice that part of it. They are just plain unique, so don't come with a blueprint for listening - everyone gets something diffent out of them, hence such a wide range of gig goers

There's an album just out of quieter moments called 'Cardiacs And Affectionate Friends', with various solo stuff from Bic (Levitation), William D Drake and the Sea Nymphs... Of course Cardiacs are classic, someone described them recently as 'the finest band to walk the face of the earth' (which was nice)

Marina, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
I think they are bleeding brilliant. And if other people hate them it just means that it'll be easier to get to the bar at gigs... I don't care if they're not top of the pops material, I don't get the royalties.

A.Fish, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

my flatmate has a Cardiacs scarf and glove set!

He doesn't care that they sound like a riot in a fairground.

chris, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Wait wait wait. How could sounding like a riot in a fairground possibly NOT be classic?

Rebecca, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Hah! Great one line reveiw. The only bad thing about Cardiacs is that they're the only band that sound remotely like that, which is a bit of a responsibility.

Marina organ, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I have "Heaven Born & Ever Bright". I like it a lot. I especially like putting it in the computer CD slot when playing "Quake". this = frightening. Bits of it sound like stranglers 33 1/3 lp played @ 78rpm, which is good. I also have "Is this the Life" (something like that anyway) on cassette somewhere. This is a really good number which sounds like proto-faith-no-more. Also, they supported Blur at some fottie stadium gig, and indie kidz were reportedly running away w/fingers in ears. I like this idea as well. From this admittedly small sampling i would say classic. Also one of levitation was in them and levitation ruled. Whatever happened to dark star anyway?

Norman Phay, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Blimey, this is still going! A year ago when I started this thread, I was so upset by the responses it got, I fled ILM never to return...what an absolute wuss. I stand by everything I said though, Cardiacs rock my tiny little world.

They supported Blur at their big Mile End Indiefest, as I recall. Damian Allbran always sites them as a major influence, although you never know with Blurboy whether it's just something he says to prove his uniqueness. The only other band to really take Cardiac-worship into the mainstream were Ultrasound, and for all their freaky- outsider posturing they were never quite as interesting (Whatever happened to Tiny?)

Popular rumour has it that one editor banned them from the NME. I'd love that to be true, although I've seen the printed review of "Heaven Born" so it seems unlikely.

Phil A, Saturday, 30 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, come back and do battle! Interesting if you have a look around Lusenet the journo-sheep are slowly being outnumbered by people who actually listen to and get a kick out of music. The NME ban was true - it was apparantly one of the Sutherlands (he looked like a fat old teddy boy) standing in the crowd with his notebook and a grumpy face at the 1994 Eight Day Itch finale. Cardiacs pulled 1400 people but this guy wrote a reveiw to the effect that main support Poisoned Electric Head were the headliners and that everyone in the venue was very stupid and nobody should listen to them. Then a while later a band made Cardiacs their number one band in a 'My Top Ten' feature, but there was a mysterious layout error which meant that their top ten only went to number 2. Ho hum, I overheard someone who should know say 'the NME is in big trouble' at an industry-infested gig this week.

Anyway, you do know about 'Cardiacs Greatest Hits' just out? - lots of nicely remastered tracks and a soaring new one.

Marina the organgrinder, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

phil, this is what andy "tiny" wood is doing at the moment. Marina Organ, I wish you'd post here more often, like.

Norman Phay, Thursday, 11 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm too busy! Are you subscribed to cardiacs-chat? It's where we're all hiding. Go to http://www.cardiacs.com and follow the link at the top of the page.

marinecreature, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

hello. im sorry but anyone who slags off cardiacs has either no understanding of something achiveing true brilliance, or is not mentally advanced enough to understand when something reaches the upmost limits of its evolution.(arent these the same thing?!whoops!!)

they change my life constantly. no one today can touch them.

to be muttered in the same breath as the smiths, dexys, detroit techno, etc etc

del a robbo, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Your music collection sucks without _Sings to God_ .

dagasque, Saturday, 4 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Ahh! Wow! Cardiacs eh? The bestest band! Yum! Not always instantly likable, but if you put a litte effort in and Listen-Very-Carefully your effort will be rewarded.

The Limey Tank, Saturday, 4 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Xcept for Archive & Guns their other 12+ discs & bootlegs have kept me sane for the last 14 years.

Classic, Classic, CLASSIC

derek welch, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So are we talking the modern Van Der Graaf Generator or what?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC....BEYOND CLASSIC....INFACT ABSOLUTE GENIUS IN THE EXTREME, OH YES THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT IN ANYONES MIND, JUST PLEASE MAKE THEM PLAY THIS YEAR WHERE I CAN SEE THEM FOR THE FIRT TIME IN 4 YEARS. HAPPINESS AND JOY TO ALL THINGS CARDIACS. OH AND IM ALSO SAD ENOUGH TO HAVE A CARDIACS TATTOO. CHEERS PUPPIES

david sheridon, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

with reference to the bloke with the tattoo engraved on his arm.. i am sure i have saw the sad fucker strolling about Glasgow.. oh as a matter of fact.. i know him very well, he is my boyfriend. In my opinion this is kool.. i seem to find ourselves listening to them during the strangest ritualistic love making sessions. Wont be long before we give birth to a mini cardiac.. demon or angel? CLASSIC

angeline campbell, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

angeline....its an angeldemon darling, full of baby puppy love and dirty dogginess.....spreading happiness and joy on land and in the sea. ps..to all other cardiacs fans, you will be invited to our wedding to worship and praise all that is CLASSIC!!!!!!

david sheridon, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Cor! Can I come! I seem to miss all the weddings... You're not the only person with a Cardiacs tattoo - Adrian Bell (Belch of Sheffield United mad hitcher fame) has one Talking of which have you seen his book called Fever hitch - It has a big picture of Tim Smith in it... heh heh heh

marinecreature, Tuesday, 7 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

everyones welcome as long we all chip in to get cardiacs to play a 3 hour set and get william d. drake to perform the ceremony.....now that would be cool. mandi apple has got the tattoo as well. has anyone got a copy of seaside treats on video, as i only have mares nest... thanks and doggy love davexx

david sheridon, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

just out of interest are there any cardiacs fans in scotland....im curious to see what anyones got(bootlegs, press cuttings etc) or if anyone else out there can swap or sell e mail me make way for the big ship...and here she comes now god bless 'er.

david sheridon, Wednesday, 8 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Those who fail to understand the sheer brilliance of Cardiacs shouldn't be denied their opinions. But I advise them to listen again. I've had the pleasure of meeting Tim and he's just a normal bloke with brilliant ideas. And if Jim reads some of these unkind comments on this page; it'll make him cry. Would you like that?

Labrat, Thursday, 9 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

JUST BOUGHT THE GREATEST HITS ALBUM...FUCKING FANTASTIC. "DIRTY BOY" IN ALL IT'S FULLBLOWN MAJESTIC GLORY!!!!! NEW CARDIACS TRACK.."FASTER THAN SNAKES WITH A BALL AND A CHAIN", OH YES, OH YES, OH YES...BRING ON THE NEW ALBUM AND THEN WE WILL SEE WHO RULES THIS COSMIC UNIVERSE...HA HA HA HA (SCARY LAUGHTER ENSUES!!) THANKS PUPPIES

DAVID SHERIDON, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I wonder how many of you are out there... Cardiacs are totally independant, whick means they don't have the finances to do many press ads or pay PR people... hence hardly any coverage (UK music press covers stuff they know has money for adverts behind). I'm always meeting Cardiacs fanatics who have no idea of the amount of stuff they've done recently.

There's a Rock Sounds mention this week (thanks to Sean Organ), and a couple or articles in The Organ 'zine - www.organart.com

Always check out WWW.CARDIACS.COM for info!

marinecreature, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Consultant's website is also great. It's got a selection of their old promos in poor quality realvideo, including their performance of Tarred and Feathered on The Tube. And the Consultant's Flower Garden film off Seaside Treats, which is highly recommended viewing. "This is William D. Drake. Sometimes we call him Bill. The Consultant will never call him Bill, such is his hatred of him..."

I've had the Greatest Hits on constant play since I got it. What an album! I've only had Guns, Sing to God and the Sampler up till now, so most of the old stuff is new to me. Affectionate Friends ain't bad either.

Phil A, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NAME AND SHAME DAREN, NATHAN,JOE,MELISSA,CHARLIE FROM STGREGORYS ANDPAUL FROM THE INTERNET ALL OF YOU ARE JELOUSE AND THICK TO BE SO CRUEL TO GARETH HE IS REALLY NICE AND YOUR JUST BEING BULLIES.YOU PEPOLE AT ST GREGORYS STOP MAKING FUN OF GARETH HES ABETTER MAN THEN YOULL EVER BE. ITHINK PEOPLE SHOULDN;T JUST LIKE GARETH FOR LOOKS.KATHRYNS YOUR NUMBER 1 FAN GARETH LOVE AIDA YOU RULE

AIDA HORSE, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Pardon?

marinecreature, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

oh dear..oh dear..oh dear......and people think cardiacs fans are off their heads....mmmmmmmm. All hail Gareth, no i cant really see it somehow. Happiness and Joy Mr. Sheridon

david sheridon, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
cardiacs are great- tim smith-what a songwriter these songs are the bus on a bus-listen and youll find out see-dont listen to the dont knowers who think they know but dont!sea nymphs gig a couple of years back too -one of my best gigs ever-more soon please keith

keith phillips, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Do you know that William D Drake is playing a gig at the Spitz on Monday? With Bob Leith on drums apparantly. Sounds like its going to be a bit of a Cardiacs do.

Marina organ, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
CLASSIC, OBVIOUSLY. You can SORT of see how ppl wouldn't get it - they haven't evolved very far yet! but i cannot understand whoever it was saying "I quite liked" anything by Cardiacs. That's plain odd. It's a bit like saying "Eating, well I can take it or leave it."

xini

xini, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

After seeing two live concerts and listening to their albums for years, I'm still figuring out what their music is all about. Brilliant!!!! Such complex and beautifull melodic structures.

BTW if you get the chance go see Bill Drake, he has an album forthcoming, and there's a CD-single out produced by Tim Smith (Cardiacs).

A fan!

Wilco Boumans, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
And Cardiacs are actually playing an actual gig on November 15th 2002 at the London Astoria.

Result!

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Saturday, 28 September 2002 23:14 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
Just heard them for the first time: from what I can tell, classic. Reminded me of XTC if they had been a prog band. Also, some remnants of Rocky Horror style theatrics. I've heard "Guns", and guess I'll work my way backwards.

dleone (dleone), Sunday, 12 January 2003 16:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...
CLASSIC!!! Love em or loathe em.....this band is unique. Truely. Uninitiated should check out 'Is This The Life?' on the 'A Little Man And A House' Lp as a good introduction and go from there. Gawd knows where it may lead you. I've just dug out the 'Seaside' tape that Lee from 'Catherine in a Cupboard' did for me years ago - a forgotten gem. Nurses Whispering Verses - oh yes! TOP live band. Just hope they'll continue gigging......)))

Allen, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 09:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Blimey, this thread has ressurrected itself!
You know big tall Lee... did he do you a tape of Toy World/Obvious Identity (Cardiacs tape albums from 1980-83 and earlier).

DL... If you've just heard 'Guns', wait till you hear 'A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window'... give us an email if you have difficulty getting stuff.

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
This Spratley's Japs record is pretty good.

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Love em or Loath em ??
The first time I saw Cardiacs I absolutely hated them. Thankfully It didnt last for long, and soon I was enjoying some of the best gigs I have seen in 20 years. Nothing matches the total euphoria of a Cardiacs shown, I just wish Sarah would play a bit more often.
To anyone who who isn't convinced- stick with it.

paul ashby, Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:19 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Hi All....Since my last post, me and the girlfriend got married and still.....Cardiacs are Classic!!!!
Roll on November this year.
Still the greatest band on the planet, or any other,
HAPPINESS AND JOY.
Mr Sheridon

David Sheridon, Monday, 31 May 2004 08:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

noh, a classic from old - I was listening at the time. I don't know the Cardiacs stuff beyond "is this the life", but I believe someone prompted his favourite ever Cardiacs track so.

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:23 (ten months ago) Permalink

which one is it?

imago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:24 (ten months ago) Permalink

it's on the link i posted!

Cardiacs
Dirty Boy

tim's situation does sound grim, the stuff of nightmares.

koogs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:40 (ten months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://alphabet-business-concern.bandcamp.com/

chihuahuau, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:36 (eight months ago) Permalink

have been enjoying myself there, yes! although the only one I hadn't heard every second of was the MAMSAMD album

imago, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Really enjoyed Heaven Born And Ever Bright. Hard to choose favorites.
Its like the little creatures from The Stranglers MenInBlack intro migrated to the last track of this and are being flushed out.
The S sounds in "She Is Hiding Behind The Shed" are a bit too high pitched.

Cant believe I bought 13 of these albums in late 2014 and still only listened to less than half of them, shame on me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 May 2018 20:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

she is hiding behind the shed -> march -> goodbye grace -> anything i can't eat

imago, Friday, 4 May 2018 20:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

T'was the first Cardiacs record I bought, on cassette from Tower in Piccadilly on a visit to London as a youngster

Helen And Heaven and March are two of my favourite Cardiacs tracks, but I find that record can sometimes be a bit of a tough listen, it's quite middle-y sounding.

MaresNest, Friday, 4 May 2018 22:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Man this new Craolya Lectern record is pretty neat!

MaresNest, Saturday, 26 May 2018 09:27 (six months ago) Permalink

Cardiacsy thread next time - it even has your name in the title! Bumping this one always gives me a Tim Smith Update tingle, or a New Convert frisson

That said, thanks, I will surely listen the heck out of this :)

imago, Saturday, 26 May 2018 10:54 (six months ago) Permalink

Oh wait this has actual Cardiacs members on it. Pedantry withdrawn haha

imago, Saturday, 26 May 2018 10:58 (six months ago) Permalink

Nah, you have a point though, I should have put it elsewhere, even if it is tiny Bob Leith, pretty as a picture...

MaresNest, Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:35 (six months ago) Permalink

Helen And Heaven and March are two of my favourite Cardiacs tracks, but I find that record can sometimes be a bit of a tough listen, it's quite middle-y sounding.

― MaresNest, Friday, May 4, 2018 11:50 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually made my own "fixed" version of HBAEB with the bass lifted and the mid-range softened. Obviously not as good as a properly supervised remaster would be, but it does the job when I'm out and about and don't fancy having my eardrums wrecked every time a track crops up on my MP3 player.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:38 (six months ago) Permalink

I did this just the other day with a record by the band Eight Storey Window that has a really terrible cheap, pingy snare that goes straight through me.

MaresNest, Saturday, 26 May 2018 19:05 (six months ago) Permalink

I've never had any issues with the mix on that album. Is it a CD mastering problem? I usually listen to it on the old vinyl copy or the cassette which I taped from the vinyl (in my ancient car).

everything, Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:27 (six months ago) Permalink

I had to do that with this obscure punk band the Absentees. Their track on Killed By Death #7 is muddy as hell but the official CD reissue goes completely the opposite and is extremely trebly instead. I had to edit it in Cool Edit to boost the bass to make a listenable version

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 26 May 2018 23:06 (six months ago) Permalink

I've never thought that Heaven Born or StG were the best sounding records but the production is a small part of what makes them distinct; anyway no mattter how harsh and trebly they are you can still hear the bass so it's OK by me.

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Sunday, 27 May 2018 09:29 (six months ago) Permalink

I always thought that the sound of StG and HBaEB were a result of the limitations of Tim's home studio plus how his own brain reacts to mid freqs, you can hear it also in some (but not all) of the records he produced and recorded. he def has a way of mixing that can sometimes be a little pushy in that spectrum.

They're not, by any means, full of screeching mids, he balances quite tricky middle frequencies (mostly guitar blare) fairly well, but as my own ears get older they're less well equipped to handle certain mids, so I tend to watch what I'm doing to preserve it.

MaresNest, Sunday, 27 May 2018 10:06 (six months ago) Permalink

The '95 reish of HBAEB (I always read that as Hey Babe!) is supposedly utterly trashed and distorted for some reason (something to do with a bucket and some nails....)

The recent vinyl and digital versions are I believe from the '92 master which is quite light on bass but not too bad at all, jt's appropriate to the style and what he intended.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:04 (six months ago) Permalink

STG frustrates me a bit on that front. It is just a little harsh in those mids and my ears are also very sensitive to that. My preferred way to listen has become a normal position cassette of a CD-R rip of the vinyl ;-)

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:08 (six months ago) Permalink

Whenever this thread is bumped I'm expecting news of an obscurities or live recordings dump on Bandcamp.

Ditzy Scene and Faster Than Snakes should appear at some point. What else is missing (apart from LSD)?

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:15 (six months ago) Permalink

One day, the original A Balloon For Bertie's Party will emerge in its best-prog-song-by-a-teenager-ever glory

imago, Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:18 (six months ago) Permalink

StGs big secret is that it's all drum machine apparently.

MaresNest, Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:49 (six months ago) Permalink

Every beat was sequenced, it's a library of sampled Bob.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Sunday, 27 May 2018 12:52 (six months ago) Permalink

Thanked by Cardiacs-hating record store employees for buying one of the band’s LPs because “our boss loves them and now he can’t play this in the shop anymore.”

— Andy Zax (@andyzax) June 6, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:41 (six months ago) Permalink

He'll find a way

imago, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:17 (six months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Guns seems pretty laid back for this band despite some typically energetic tracks. Or did Sing To God have this same balance?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 15 September 2018 10:33 (two months ago) Permalink

It's definitely quieter but the emotions and the compositions are just as intense. It's a very tragic and mysterious album - very inspired by Night Of The Hunter

imago, Saturday, 15 September 2018 10:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Had no idea about that. Wikipedia says it's utilized in a cut-up technique way, so perhaps not exactly inspired but just spliced in?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 15 September 2018 11:45 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Hello.
It is now nigh on nine months since the start of the Just Giving campaign, and perhaps high time for an update on how things have been going for Tim since then.
Unfortunately, at around the time of the launch, Tim became seriously ill, and it has taken him a while to get his strength back. Thankfully though, in the last couple of months his health has improved enough to start his rehabilitation in earnest.

So he now has:
*A Speech and Language Therapist
*A neuro-physiotherapist
*A masseuse
*A Feldenkrais therapist
*A Support Assistant to help with the everyday stuff
...and his own PA to coordinate things for him.

As well as this, he has a new state-of-the-art touch screen computer, and access to the resources needed to enable him to attend gigs more often.
Tim is at the beginning of what we hope will be an exciting journey for him, and it's all down to the financial support given, with love, by you.

With love from Mary x

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 10:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Wow!

It's one of those things - if a 6Music show begins with "is this the life", I fear the worst thesedays. Thankfully, it's just that it's "time to play that record"

Mark G, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 11:01 (two months ago) Permalink

The JustGiving is still open so I'll bump it here:
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/timsmith

(hopefully this will also remind to chip in again later)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 11:47 (two months ago) Permalink

Would be amazing if those of us who care could keep him afloat with the yearly care costs as long as is required.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 13:56 (two months ago) Permalink

was really heartwarming to see a bunch of people donate to that campaign under famous musicians' names with a message about how inspired they were by him

I think I did three of the Monkees

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 14:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh smart! I'm totally going to do that from now on.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 14:16 (two months ago) Permalink

From the Royal Conservatoire Of Scotland's FB page -

The man who inspired musicians Blur, Radiohead and Biffy Clyro is to be honoured at the RCS winter graduation on October 25. Tim Smith of the Cardiacs is to receive an Honorary Doctor of Music to celebrate his remarkable contribution to the music industry.

MaresNest, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Sweet. Congrats, doc.

Walter Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:31 (one month ago) Permalink

That said, FFS the man's contribution does not mainly consist of inspiring a bunch of more famous bands. Inevitable but ridiculous that Cardiacs (or anyone, really) should be framed like that. The Radiohead thing is highly spurious anyway so there's no need to hold him even partly responsible for that!

Walter Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:42 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean its essentially a press blurb, if it gets people interested mission accomplished. But yeah that really irks me too, I know nothing of "Biffy Clyro" but Cardiacs don't sound a thing like those other two bands. or anyone really.

frogbs, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:45 (one month ago) Permalink

except their army of devotee musicians keeping the flame alive :)

imago, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:48 (one month ago) Permalink

blur i can see btw; radiohead gtfo

imago, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:48 (one month ago) Permalink

Tim Smith, whose music inspired international luminaries such as Deep Turtle and Shrubbies...

Seriously though this is some nice news. ty Scotland

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 19 October 2018 19:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Dawson, Dog-Faced Hermans or Stretcheads if they needed token Scottish act rather than LOL Biffy Clyro.

everything, Friday, 19 October 2018 21:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Haha yeah, Buntychunks vs Radiohead

MaresNest, Saturday, 20 October 2018 11:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Didn't realize Biffy Clyro were still big.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 October 2018 14:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Hope this links okay because it's unlisted, but here is the live stream for Tim's nomination at the Royal Conservatoire today, accepted on his behalf by Jim.

https://youtu.be/yQYOqUUsAAc?t=39m49s

MaresNest, Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:40 (one month ago) Permalink

Jim deserves an award almost as much for his services to bass guitar tbh

imago, Thursday, 25 October 2018 20:11 (one month ago) Permalink

that video's lovely, thank you

imago, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:24 (one month ago) Permalink

I thought so too, made me a little teary

MaresNest, Thursday, 25 October 2018 23:52 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Dr Tim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MybDbut1lFQ

MaresNest, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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