Dollar Brand / Abdullah Ibrahim - where to begin?

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This South African pianist's discography is huge, but he's played with Archie Shepp, Don Cherry, and others, and he's still around. What's a good starting place?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 August 2012 20:14 (five years ago) Permalink

how about at the (relative) beginning
http://cdn.tradebit.org/usr/mp3-album/pub/9002/539/539353/53935399.jpg
actually, aside from a johnny dyani duo record, i think that's all i have by this dude. but i like him!

tylerw, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:21 (five years ago) Permalink

is that good news from africa? beautiful record, one of my favorites.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:40 (five years ago) Permalink

His daughter is Jean Grae!

Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i think the dyani/ibrahim record i have is called echoes of africa, or something along those lines. i should dig it out, i haven't listened to it all that much.

tylerw, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:44 (five years ago) Permalink

AFRICAN SPACE PROGRAM

69, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:55 (five years ago) Permalink

(that's kind of the only one i think ill hold on to forever, though ive heard/owned most of his records at one point...)

69, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:55 (five years ago) Permalink

I mainly have live sets i picked up from Dime etc.
Have a great late 60s one with John Tchicai and Gato Barbieri which is really pretty avant.
Also a few 70s 1s.

What I've heard of his less fiery current stuff isn't bad either, more based in earlier jazz and township folk.

Stevolende, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:57 (five years ago) Permalink

I love this guy. One of my favorite players of all time.

He's a very versatile player. One album will be straight post-bop, the next will be free and the one after that will be funky funky. All are played incredibly well.

Good News From Africa is usually considered his masterpiece (and it's really good, to be sure), but I prefer his later 70's albums like Cape Town Fringe, Soweto and African Marketplace. There's just a really good melodic, soulful sound to the material on those albums. I hesitate to throw the term "soul jazz" at that stuff, but there's definitely a resonating, introspective tone the heads. The album Soweto is honestly among some of the happiest music I've ever heard.

The great —but also intimidating— thing about him is that he's been consistently good through his entire career. I definitely have favorite albums, but, just off the top of my head right now, I can't think of an album that I don't like or am even lukewarm about.

If you're up for an adventure, check out the album he did with Max Roach: http://www.allmusic.com/album/streams-of-consciousness-mw0000032771

Austin, Thursday, 23 August 2012 23:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I only have The Dream, but it's really good.

wmlynch, Thursday, 23 August 2012 23:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Great start, thanks everyone!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 24 August 2012 02:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Anything with Johnny Dyani, I'm all over it. Gonna start there. Did he record with any of the other Blue Notes / Brotherhood of Breath folks?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 24 August 2012 02:05 (five years ago) Permalink

AFRICAN SPACE PROGRAM

― 69, Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(that's kind of the only one i think ill hold on to forever, though ive heard/owned most of his records at one point...)

― 69, Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

good to hear that, I didn't want to chime in on the thread because that's the ONLY one I have or have heard, but I think it's good

dmr, Friday, 24 August 2012 02:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I only know African Magic (from 2003) but I really like it. I'm embarrassed to admit that I did not know his career stretched so far back and that he had been so prolific. AMG says African Magic is different from his other concerts. Maybe I should look into more.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 24 August 2012 03:18 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Just loaded up on a bunch of OOP titles at Amoeba yesterday, in addition to the latest one (Mukashi).

Listening to Mukashi now. Holy hell, it's good.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 00:05 (three years ago) Permalink

Eyaka was love at first listening; yeah Water From An Ancient Wellis great; for a sharp-eyed free jazz excursion, check that 60s set (later reissued on Arista Freedom) with Gato, as noted by Stevo upthread. The Very Best of, from 2000 or so, is very good too; I need to get more.

dow, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 00:52 (three years ago) Permalink

Sorry, I meant Ekaya!

dow, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 00:55 (three years ago) Permalink

well i should check these out then

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 02:13 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Jammin' African Space Program now for the first time. It's wacky!

Austin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 18:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Water From An Ancient Well is really chilled.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Sunday, 24 January 2016 02:54 (one year ago) Permalink

That one has 'Manenberg Revisited' aka 'Soweto' on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTDQCcEN8v8

One of his best tunes, for sure.

Austin, Sunday, 24 January 2016 03:10 (one year ago) Permalink

i was a little worried to see this thread bob up.

ulysses, Sunday, 24 January 2016 04:00 (one year ago) Permalink

I happened upon his 1986 live-album South Africa in a flea market, it's pretty great

niels, Sunday, 24 January 2016 10:13 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Went to see him last night, absolutely heartwarming show. Like a combo of Ellington, Monk, third stream music and township jazz. I didn't know what kind of band he'd have, I was figuring it'd be a piano trio, but he had a wonderful 4-piece brass/winds section; I don't think I've ever seen piccolo used in a jazz context, and this guy was amazing.

Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 14:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Lucky.

Austin, Thursday, 5 May 2016 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

I know, I felt really lucky to be there. Such spiritual music. His songs segue beautifully, from solo piano to adding cello and drums, to the brass section, and back again. And he never said a word. He didn't even have a mic to introduce any song titles or band members. Just did this:

http://kalamu.com/neogriot/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Abdullah-Ibrahims-04.jpg

Double Nickels on the Pecunidigm (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

ahhh... i found some of his earliest albums (reflections and african sketchbook) in a record shop last year, and played the heck out of them. african sketchbook in particular is gorgeous.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Am I right in thinking that he has got pretty spacey in places.
Also that he had an at least semi electric township related band going fairly recently.

I haven't listened to him i a while but do think I was hearing some stuff that sounded pretty out from him.

Stevolende, Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:21 (one year ago) Permalink

some of his stuff gets a little muzak-y, yes

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Some of his mid-70's albums are pretty wacky.

Austin, Thursday, 5 May 2016 19:43 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I'm listening to solo recording from '73 - Ancient Africa, today. It is really fucking great.

calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:27 (one week ago) Permalink

not strictly solo, actually.

calzino, Friday, 6 October 2017 10:33 (one week ago) Permalink


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