Am I a rockist if I say this is one of the worst things I've ever heard?
http://www.intouchweekly.com/entertainment/news/sneak-preview-teen-mom-farrah-s-first-single#.UCA4nUQ6psu
― thirdalternative, Monday, 6 August 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
people listen to these things exclusively for the opportunity to say that, don't they?
― Diary of a Whiney Kid: Dog Days (some dude), Monday, 6 August 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
pretty much
― Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 August 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
I've just finished listening to this entire album, and you've really got to hear it. It's pure outsider art - fucking brilliant. Makes Peaches and Le Tigre sound like Taylor Swift. Seriously, here's the Spotify link, judge for yourself. I haven't heard anything this alienating in years - the Autotune abuse is so over the top and jarring, the lyrics are so disconnected and seemingly random, there's no way this happened by accident. This girl (because I think she produced this herself, I can't find credits anywhere) is some kind of insane genius.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8xm3mQeK61qgf5wso1_500.png
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
Debra_Bags
― some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZy9lTQbghQ
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
i gotta admit just when i thought i'd heard everything...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XemtXy7aAWA
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
I'm telling you, she's some kind of genius outsider artist. I want to review this album for The Wire.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
i do like that its so short.
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
i'm always hoping people go back to the 2 minute single. and definitely in her case. it makes the dementia more concise and easier to focus on.
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link
wow this is genuinely incredible
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
Did she just leave autotune on its default setting or something?
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
the autotune is really the least weird thing about it, lots of people have made more raw/amateurish use of it the last of people. the words and the random meter are just bizarre.
― some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
er "the last few years"
i pretty much wrote a farrah lyric by accident for a second there
― some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
super interesting thing about it is that it really is an audible lesson in what autotune can't fix. compare this to the flavor flav single from a few years back. flav can't sing for shit, but he has the basic idea down - he just has bad pitch. he sings the song, they autotune the shit out of it, now when he sings "deeeeep" it sounds like a robot hitting the note. on this, her leaps are so far from the actual melody that AT or melodyne just corrects to something near it, and it's still audibly wrong. then they build the track around that, it sounds like. this is less outsider than...like those sound-library discs collectors get obsessed with?
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link
it gets uh better too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_291277&feature=iv&src_vid=XemtXy7aAWA&v=ey3clrDUhGk
― scott seward, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
oops here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3clrDUhGk&feature=channel&list=UL
You guys haven't even seen the video! She and her daughter visit the father's grave (if you're not a Teen Mom viewer, you should know that Farrah's kid's father is dead):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJuu_4SR8-Y
The whole song repeats twice - it's like the Residents' "Commercial Album" principle applied without a wink.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
that one almost sounds like xiu xiu xp
― half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
a friend's girlfriend works as a producer on Teen Mom, really need to talk to them about this next time i see them
― some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
love how that song ends with the phrase "this is the best i can do," delivered with an autotuned shrug
― some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
not having seen the show & having only these to go on I gotta say there's something in the earnestness of her delivery and the unrevised bluntness of the lines that's kind of moving in the way some GUYS I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING ABOUT THE WORLD hardcore used to be, these lyrics that'd be like THERE HAS TO BE! A BETTER WAY!
at any rate enjoy it while you can, by this time next week you will be as sick of this as you got of Rebecca Black
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
the header of her official website is "Your go to public figure..."
― some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link
I'll have moved on to something else for sure, but this is a completely different kind of kick for me. Rebecca Black (who I never got even momentarily interested in) was a girl trying to make pop music and mostly failing; this is something else. I'm genuinely unsure whether this girl thinks she's making pop records which could be hits, or whether she's making some kind of bizarro confessional art-song. To tie it into something Scott said on Facebook, I feel like Editions Mego should license this album and put it out with cover art designed by Stephen O'Malley and see what happens.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 19 August 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean the album is a soundtrack to her book right? i kinda wonder if she has any misguided pop ambitions or just threw it together as part of her media platform
― some dude, Sunday, 19 August 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's different & more fun for sure but online it will play out the same way, with 10 million people saying THIS SUCKS in as many "clever" ways as they can xp
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 19 August 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
wow she's like the lucia pamela of the autotune generation. tracks need more cowbell tho
― cock chirea, Sunday, 19 August 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
This is fucking wild. I am in awe.
― Everything You Like Sucks, Sunday, 19 August 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
I would probably have believed it if someone told me 'Finally Getting Up...' was the new Crystal Castles single tbh.
― pandemic, Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
This is amazing. Reminds me a lot of the Russian Youtube-hit singer Anzhela London. Same blend of twisted-commercial-pop elements and outsider art.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:34 (twelve years ago) link
The album is quite remarkable. As mentioned upthread, it really doesn't sound like it ended up being weird, abrasive and disjointed accidentally. Appalling music can certainly take on a strange avant-garde quality without meaning to but this sounds more deliberate and focused somehow.
― Temporarily Famous In The Czech Republic (ShariVari), Sunday, 19 August 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link
― half-worm inchworm tapeworm (donna rouge), Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:34 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^
― it's-a me, irl (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
like by the law of averages there are probably gonna be ppl that look at this thread w/o listening to the songs and think that this is just a bunch of music nerds hi-fiving over fucking Residents references or whatever, but... this is really... something
― it's-a me, irl (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
haha pandemic OTM, this is super reminiscent of Crystal Castles to me
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
i'm really into it. the whole album. it's like if supposed former infatuation junkie era alanis made an edm record.
― hamlisch kilgour (get bent), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
just otm-ing everyone at this point but the song is almost avant garde, pretend it came out of brooklyn with some blog buzz anda nice visual aesthetic and sky's the limit.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
there's no musical throughline to her melodies, it's just diary entries sung at random pitches.
― hamlisch kilgour (get bent), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, this stuff is pretty rad. one of her songs was making the rounds on my Facebook feed for the LOLZ a few days ago and i ended up listening to it probably 8 times in a row.
― circa1916, Sunday, 19 August 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
Damn,....
I cannot fucking believe I'm saying this but
Is this on itunes?
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
xiu xiu is a surprisingly apt comparison. mindfuck.
― jed_, Monday, 20 August 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
I seriously can't believe this is related to an MTV reality star, like I feel we're going to find out this is actually Har Mar Superstar with a pitchshifter
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
this girl's persona on the show is completely tragic btw. a lot of legitimately bad things have happened to her (boyfriend dying, her mom is abusive iirc) but she's also kind of awful. her speaking voice is one of the least appealing sounds.
― horseshoe, Monday, 20 August 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
oh I got the speaking voice thing from her Youtube cooking show, which was really the end of the world
this album is weirdly compelling though
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
like "Liar Liar" is genuinely amazing
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think Romney blasts this on his tour bus, since it's sadface android music
― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
I wrote about her for the sci-fi website io9.
― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
you guys
this may be my favorite release of 2012
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
like wtf is going on in "Caught In The Act"
― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
'outsider' is a slippery concept, obviously superstars & heads of state &c. often feel separated & isolated, kanye feels persecuted or w/e, but expressing that is different from being removed from mainstream aesthetic discourse
― ogmor, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Like if a more boring version of Ed Wood had been given Michael Bay's budgets.
if she's going to be like any version of Ed Wood then surely she meets some reasonable definition of 'outsider'? I'm sure anyone who wanted to be a pop star and had a reasonable budget or backing could get some jobbing producer (e.g. anyone above ARK Music Factory standards) and make something that did a passable if probably not very interesting job of being pop music. That FA seems to have deviated from that easy path somewhat is notable at least.
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link
But Ed Wood didn't have his own syndicated show and flock of gossip magazines eating up everything he said did he?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
But yeah y'all have some good points to make and yeah my idea of 'outsider artist' does seem to clash w the regularly accepted parameters. Just seems like someone doing something really pedestrian and mainstream but utterly failing, rather than bringing anything unique to the table other than a complete lack of talent. But it doesn't really matter that much to me so I'll shut up about it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link
I doubt it's THAT easy -- I imagine most jobbing producers would prefer not to work with reality stars, hence most reality stars getting fairly fifth-string producers
― katherine, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link
(I kind of like to think of "outsider artist" in terms of "will this shit still exist in 30 years or is it doomed to be ephemeral" but that's also a re-interpretation)
― katherine, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:17 (ten years ago) link
there's plenty of ultra-mainstream crap that is forgotten immediately tho
― ogmor, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:21 (ten years ago) link
I like imagining that "the dude who runs the audio recording facility closest to Art Institute of Ft. Lauderdale" is the Michael Bay of pop music! Would like to know if this guy actually produced the whole album, though.
― cr4bdbgs, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
there's definitely something in the term about slippage between intent and effect. i think what we mean an artist who has some aesthetic power but it's not what was intended. or the intent is really opaque.
one of my favorite local art exhibits of the past few years was a bunch of work done as part of art therapy for people with really profound mental illness or disability. there's almost no way to talk about it w/o terms that slide into condescension, i guess. but just on a formal level these artists happened upon (see? "happened upon") ways of working or repeating things that were really affecting. and maybe they wouldn't have been so powerful had i not known the story; there's no way of knowing.
― goole, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
W/ Farrah Abraham "outsider" is an easy way to avoid using the phrase "experimental artist," which she (also?) is. It might hedge against agency/intentionality (probably not wrongly, but who knows?). It's a bit of a game of not quite this ("experimental musician") but definitely not that ("pop star"). I really don't understand how anyone could listen to "MTDE" and think, "oh man, listen to all these failed pop songs!"
I figure that "My Teenage Dream Ended" sounds very much like what she was intending it to sound like. I think she was messing around and through ambiguous means ended up with something great, and that any accidental greatness isn't any more or less accidental than anyone else's greatness.
― cr4bdbgs, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
CelebURty -CelebURty --CelebURty
is there some deep meaning behind her spelling it this way in the video description's lyrics? anyway i am really enjoying this
― dyl, Tuesday, 18 March 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
i figured it was just "U R a celebrity"?
― The Greta Gerwig In The Sky (some dude), Tuesday, 18 March 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link
I am singing this new song constantly.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link
xp oh of course! farrah is always operating a level ahead of me when it comes to wordplay and such (only just realized that fla, in addition to obv being her initials, refers to "the sunshine state" itself)
i've also been playing this song more than i thought i would initially
― dyl, Thursday, 27 March 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
rubbing shoulders with fatman scoop in the latest series of celebrity big brotherpraying for a collab
― nxd, Friday, 28 August 2015 08:47 (nine years ago) link
I particularly loved when it was her shot to fire the canon and she jumped up singing "I like balls, I like balls"
― boxedjoy, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:50 (nine years ago) link
Off-topic but I am fully on-board with a Celebrity Big Brother starring Farrah, Scoop, Tile Tequila, Janice Dicking on and Jenny Jameson
― boxedjoy, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:51 (nine years ago) link
*Dickinson, what an unfortunate autocorrect
― boxedjoy, Friday, 28 August 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link
man this album is really fucking something
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 13:34 (eight years ago) link
yeah
― goole, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link
I want her next album to be a straight cover ofhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/smurfs/images/d/dc/Father_Abraham_In_Smurfland.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110830210200
― TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link
i don't want to tie eeeeeverything to trump but someone needs to theorize the creative power of stupidity
― goole, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
i can only put so much in a post
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:23 (eight years ago) link
i still have a burned copy of this in my car
― circa1916, Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:23 (eight years ago) link
"After Prom" the parts where they have overdubs of her frantically whispering "don't tell don't tell don't tell don't tell don't tell don't let it get out" is crazy
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 September 2016 15:54 (eight years ago) link
With Out This Ring... still a jam
― skip, Sunday, 25 June 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
i miss that! ring
― dyl, Sunday, 25 June 2017 19:42 (seven years ago) link
Well here's a deep cut come to life
http://www.thefader.com/2017/11/21/farrah-abraham-album-producer-interview
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
she sang it to a metronome!
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 09:32 (six years ago) link
fuck me, this album is already six years old???
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 August 2018 00:50 (six years ago) link
She made another song two years after the album - it's slightly more normal, but she still has no idea what the words "rhythm" or "rhyme scheme" mean.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h53AzPEdku0
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:42 (six years ago) link
Farrah Abraham HATES Joan Didion and thinks you should buy HER OWN book over Slouching Towards Bethlehem. She has suddenly become our most fearess critic. https://t.co/Y2BeQZnfs3 pic.twitter.com/ge6hzCme4t— Who? Weekly (@whoweekly) March 6, 2019
― goole, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
looool
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 20:57 (five years ago) link
lol
i actually tried reading my teenage dream ended! couldn't finish it
― dyl, Thursday, 7 March 2019 01:57 (five years ago) link
new penthouse, where you can read alan dershowitz, toby young, and farrah abraham together. what did we as a culture do to deserve this
― maura, Thursday, 7 March 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link
I finally found something with the same surreal "why was this made" vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDAytqFrUk
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:07 (five years ago) link
― maura, Thursday, March 7, 2019 1:30 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
edited by the singer from white lung, running copy from rightwing twitter trolls who haven't flamed out yet, it's a real smorgasbord
it was pretty funny watching them go after Nicole Cliffe and getting torched
― goole, Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qRKBQU8j3E
― ufo, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link
Went to Farrah’s twitter inspired by this revive and it’s unsurprisingly filled with pro-Trump conspiracy bullshit. Also she apparently looks like a fish now.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
oh weird i was only discussing and rediscovering the FA album today on Facebook
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
yeah it hasn't gotten any less weird over time that's for sure
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
seems even more striking now knowing that people like James Ferraro have dedicated their lives to finding a sound like this
― frogbs, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
this is AOTY
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
are the tracks only 10-15 seconds long?
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link
come on kid, up your ante
aoty
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link
merry xmas
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLwke9qe9t8k
― goole, Monday, 21 December 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link
Someone get those ladies a Quiznos commercial!
― peace, man, Monday, 21 December 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
Holy shit, the Emily Montes album is great!! After you hear stuff like this and the Farrah album, regular pop music sounds so boring.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 21 December 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link
I like this Emily Montes album! The disjointed Tik Tok format thing is a good addition to the My Teenage Dream Ended aesthetic.
― Jamie Harley, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 07:57 (three years ago) link