You Make Polling Fun: FLEETWOOD MAC POLL RESULTS, ILM Artist Poll #22

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AKA: "Then Poll On"... "Poll'n House"... "Polled Me"...

Thanks to all who participated! We had 42 ballots in total, which I think is a pretty strong turnout. I'll be unveiling our top ten albums this evening, and our top 60 songs beginning tomorrow morning (20 songs per day through Thursday)... I'd like to give a hearty thank-you and shout-out to JessFlip, who helped me a great deal in tabulating, double-checking, and entering the slew of ballots. Fleetwood Mac has seldom left the turntable in this house for the past several weeks--as it should be, I suppose...

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The lead-up thread can be found here: http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=92893#unread

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:17 (six years ago) Permalink

FYI, album rankings were tablulated according to the following formula: 1st:10pts, 2:8, 3:6, 4:5, 5:3. I thought it echoed the structure of the tracks formula elegantly in that the number of points for the top placement was 3.33 times the number of points for the bottom placement. And we managed to avoid ties this way as well, thankfully... So without futher ado...

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

10th Place: Say You Will (2003) - 12 points, 3 votes, 0 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Say_You_Will.jpg

Their first record without Christine McVie-penned songs since Kiln House in 1970!

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:26 (six years ago) Permalink

It's too long, Christine is badly missed, and the production is way too harsh ... but I like it

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 July 2012 20:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I like imagining that the cover is them feeling really deflated and bummed-out realizing how much they've lost without Christine's presence...

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I did mean to come back and do albums btw, I just never bothered. Sorry Clarke.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 July 2012 20:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I would've voted for this most likely.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 July 2012 20:36 (six years ago) Permalink

The Say You Will cover looks like the re-creation of the end of a groovy orgy they had in Van Nuys back in '76.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 July 2012 20:37 (six years ago) Permalink

9th Place: Future Games (1971) - 26 points, 5 votes, 0 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Future_Games.jpg

Christine's first record as a member, and a really lovely, enveloping record... I now feel bad for having cut it at the last second!

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Is anyone a huge Kirwan stan?

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

say you will too low.

can't really complain tho as i forgot about the album ballot.

second only to popcorn (or something), Monday, 23 July 2012 20:54 (six years ago) Permalink

8th Place: Then Play On (1969) - 28 points, 4 votes, 0 number one votes

http://www.alistairsdream.co.uk/mainalbum/18%20Alistairs%20Music/MUSIC%20ON%20VINYL/F/slides/FLEETWOOD%20MAC%20-%201969,%20THEN%20PLAY%20ON.jpg

Over the course of quite a few years picking off more and more of my mom's old LP collection during trips back to Virginia, I probably flipped and skipped this one 50 times before actually bothering to open up the gatefold and look to see what it was. By the time I did that, I knew about Peter Green and knew the LPs were somewhat hard to come by... You can imagine my delight, especially considering how anally clean and perfect my mom kept her records.

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Future Games made my albums list when I realized that a couple of my tracks ballot (and a couple of late cuts) were on it.

Is anyone a huge Kirwan stan?

When I wrote out my ballot short list and put the songwriter's initials next to every song, I was surprised at the number of DKs.

Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:02 (six years ago) Permalink

There have been so many instances of me listening to an earlier record, being really struck by a song, and looking to see who wrote it only to reveal it was him.

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:04 (six years ago) Permalink

The Say You Will cover looks like the re-creation of the end of a groovy orgy they had in Van Nuys back in '76.

the Say You Will cover always reminded me of this Rolling Stone cover from 1977:

http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-200904/4ea67ef0cda9083fba8e48f823439bf9.jpg

I felt guilty about not including anything from the album on my ballot. I like the album but no individual song from it quit made my top 20. And yeah it's a really long album - would've been a double album in the vinyl era. It's longer than Tusk!

I did include at least one Future Games cut, and a couple from Then Play On.

Only one Kirwan song on my ballot, and I'm ashamed to admit it's not "Dragonfly" which i've been listening to repeatedly this weekend and it's getting under my skin

Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

7th Place: Bare Trees (1972) - 31 points, 6 votes, 1 number one vote

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Baretreescd.jpg

Kirwan's last record with the band, and one of their most beautiful covers IMHO. Our first of the lineup to receive a number one vote... It went gold in 1976, and can still easily be found in dollar bins across the world. (A great investment...)

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:12 (six years ago) Permalink

My #3 pick. Side 2 of this album slays me.

The cover sleeve of the original vinyl (in the US anyway) has an interesting texture

Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:16 (six years ago) Permalink

went gold in 1976, and can still easily be found in dollar bins across the world. (A great investment...)

as I discovered last week

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Do you guys realize Kirwan was only 22 when Bare Trees was recorded? Wow...

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

6th Place: Mystery To Me (1973) - 34 points, 7 votes, 0 number one votes

http://backtomono.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/fleetwood_mystf.jpg

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:31 (six years ago) Permalink

(It must be seen in full gatefold to properly appreciate...)

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

McVie's bass playing does not suffer from being so exposed on "Bare Trees" and "Danny's Chant."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:35 (six years ago) Permalink

but Mick didn't look like that in 1973

Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

awesome cover. this was my #4 out of 5.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I swear, man, their rhythm section... There's some funny stuff happening on that Jimi/Eddie thread regarding the word "underrated," but I really think Mick and John don't get enough props! Also, John McVie took that photo on the Bare Trees cover... I wonder what Instagram filter he used?

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Side note: I was the only one to vote for Kiln House! The cover of which Christine drew... I didn't even include any songs from that record on my ballot, but the whole thing is just so much fun to listen to and so damn weird within their discography that I had to include it as my number 5.

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:39 (six years ago) Permalink

5th Place: Mirage (1982) - 43 points, 10 votes, 0 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Mirage.jpg

Didn't someone on the lead-up thread say that this was Lindsey Buckingham's least favorite Fleetwood Mac record? The cover art is intriguing... Is Christine seducing Lindsey? Or warning him?

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 21:52 (six years ago) Permalink

yep -- the let's-consciously-make-a-Rumours-sequel.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:54 (six years ago) Permalink

which worked commercially: it remained #1 in America for five weeks and outsold Tusk.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:55 (six years ago) Permalink

it's great!

contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:57 (six years ago) Permalink

eyezatha world!

contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I ended up with three tracks from Mirage in my top 20 but I didn't put it on my albums ballot...

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:02 (six years ago) Permalink

Christgau's take: "This is the safe follow-up Rumours wasn't, and I find myself alternately charmed by its craft and offended by its banality. After seven years, you'd think they'd weary of romantic tension-and-release. But despite the occasional I'm-scareds and can't-go-backs, you'd never know how much passion they've already put behind them--they write about infatuation and its aftermaths like twenty-year-olds. This is obviously a commercial advantage, and I wouldn't want to be immune to its truth. But pop music offers endless variations on that truth, and since only the most graceful are worth pondering I have to say that there isn't another "Hold Me" here. B+"

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

4th Place: Tango In the Night (1987) - 68 points, 13 votes, 2 number one votes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Fleetwood_Mac_-_Tango_in_the_Night.jpg

Did you guys know this record started out as a solo project of Lindsey's?

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:23 (six years ago) Permalink

What is kinda amusing about the "attempt to recreate Rumours" narrative (incl. from Lindsey himself) is how relatively little Mirage actually sounds like it. You'd think if they were trying so hard for that they wouldn't have included so many oddities and curios good ("Empire State", arguably even "Hold Me") and bad ("Oh Diane").

Tim F, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:25 (six years ago) Permalink

re: Christgau - "This is the safe follow-up Rumours wasn't" - more like, this is the safe follow-up to Rumours that Tusk wasn't

Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Love Tango but I don't think I ended up voting for it - oddly, the weaker tracks (i.e. mainly the two non-single stevie tracks) prevent me from embracing it as an album more than the weaker tracks on Mirage do, even though there's less of them.

Tim F, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:27 (six years ago) Permalink

in Buckingham's defense, when he says "attempt to recreate Rumours" he (and the band too) mean "We all played together."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:28 (six years ago) Permalink

God, those Stevie tracks are REALLY rough going, huh? The best song she does on the record ("Seven Wonders") wasn't even written by her.

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:29 (six years ago) Permalink

No I think Christgau meant what he said: Rumours *wasn't* a safe follow-up to the self-titled album when that could have been expected. He's attempting to distinguish between safe commercial appeal and brave commercial appeal, I think.

He's kinda wrong in this case I think (Mirage is the weirder album of the two) but it's a neat distinction nonetheless.

Tim F, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:29 (six years ago) Permalink

the most aurally adventurous parts of Tusk and TITN are Buckingham stitch jobs.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Rumours def wasn't the safe followup to Fleetwood Mac, so xgau makes sense

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost ha -- Tim!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

x-post

I'm guessing nobody's feeling an insane amount of anticipation for what the top three records will be, haha... In what way was Rumours not a somewhat safe follow-up to the self-titled? I'm not trying to be dense; I've really just always seen those two records as companion pieces.

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:31 (six years ago) Permalink

What depresses me about the non-"Seven Wonders" tracks on TITN is how many good songs Nicks had in storage (her stockpile goes back to the seventies).

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:32 (six years ago) Permalink

I feel sort of bad for not having voted for "Family Man" or "Caroline"--two "lesser" TITN tracks that I think rule.

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:34 (six years ago) Permalink

In what way was Rumours not a somewhat safe follow-up to the self-titled? I'm not trying to be dense; I've really just always seen those two records as companion pieces.

to my ears there's a sense in which the eponymous debut betrays its origins by sounding like a bunch of pop songs with generic I/you pronouns that coheres thanks to expert playing ("Rhiannon" def not though). I guess "Go Your Own Way" is a more urgent, structurally inventive take on "Blue Letter" and "Songbird" a more despairing "Warm Ways."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:34 (six years ago) Permalink

what I love most about the eponymous album is how the songs have an audible joy -- a bunch of people realizing that not only do they like each other, but they make SHIT HOT music together. That's how "Monday Morning" sounds; it LEAPS off the turntable.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:35 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, exactly! I love the way the s/t feels. It's lesser songs are better than Rumours's lesser songs, I think, and I enjoy listening to it more (and do listen to it more frequently as well).

Clarke B., Monday, 23 July 2012 22:37 (six years ago) Permalink

In any case, Rumours wasn't made with commercial appeal as a primary objective, which makes its massive popularity all the more ironic. Certainly demonstrates that sometimes the best way to sell a gazillion records is to just make music that reflects what you're feeling.

Lee626, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:38 (six years ago) Permalink

This was one of my picks that had absolutely no shot, but I love this faithful cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJuVPhIj6Wg

http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-1641869-1245575981.jpeg

queequeg (peter grasswich), Sunday, 29 July 2012 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Christine was dating Dennis Wilson when that was recorded btw. He often wore Fleetwood Mac t-shirts at concerts around that time.

Lee626, Sunday, 29 July 2012 21:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I think Christine was to provide backing vocals on Dennis's unfinished 2nd solo album, not sure if any of them made it on the eventually-released material.

There is at least one tune out there with the songwriting credit Lindsey Buckingham/Brian Wilson

Lee626, Monday, 30 July 2012 00:36 (six years ago) Permalink

she sings background on "Love Surrounds Me"

buzza, Monday, 30 July 2012 00:43 (six years ago) Permalink

“Well we’d split up before all that but yes, obviously, I’ve had to ask myself the same question. Why do people stay with people? ‘Cos they love them, I guess. And I loved him for a while. he was very charismatic, great looking, very charming, very cute -- if you can call a guy with a beard and voice like Satan’cute’. He used to draw people into his life, strangers off planes and off the streets, and they’d become his best friends. I think I mothered him, to be honest. He used to go off and I wouldn’t see him for days, and days, and then he’d come back and I’d mother him and get him all nice and sober and then he’d go off and go crazy again. It’s one of those things. Opposites attract.”

buzza, Monday, 30 July 2012 00:47 (six years ago) Permalink

> He used to draw people into his life, strangers off planes and off the streets, and they’d become his best friends.

i won't name names or anything....

Lee626, Monday, 30 July 2012 01:30 (six years ago) Permalink

heard "Silver Springs" on the radio several times even way back in '77. The first time I heard it the DJ announced it beforehand and I thought Fleetwood Mac couldn't about Silver Spring and assumed it was a coincidence, and the opening lyric convinced me I was right. I only later learned the name did indeed come from Silver Spring, the city.

Stevie Nicks usually says in interviews that she saw a road sign for Silver Spring when she was in Virginia. Silver Spring is in Maryland, a state which borders Virginia although Silver Spring itself is a few miles inward and doesn't itself border Virginia. I keep trying to guess where in Virginia she'd come across a sign giving mileage or directions to Silver Spring - probably traveling eastward on the DC Beltway, or perhaps northward on interstate 95 from Richmond or Alexandria.

― Lee626, Thursday, July 26, 2012 7:29 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

We're lucky she was on the DC beltway instead of the Baltimore beltway when inspiration struck or else we might have gotten "Sulphur Springs"

how's life, Monday, 30 July 2012 13:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Stevie's hair on the cover of Little Lies makes me sad.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

yet Christine's broach cheers me up.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

*brooch

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 July 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Klonopin does such horrible things to hair.

how's life, Monday, 30 July 2012 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

It's unreal how she pissed away a decade on that stuff, all of it with the blessings of an MD, I presume.

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 30 July 2012 15:05 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFGKk0rPq4Q

this song is credited as a lindsey buckingham / brian wilson co-write. it's... not very good. D:

Merdeyeux, Monday, 30 July 2012 16:02 (six years ago) Permalink

We're lucky she was on the DC beltway instead of the Baltimore beltway when inspiration struck or else we might have gotten "Sulphur Springs"

you could be my dundalk

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 30 July 2012 21:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Timonium casts a spell on you, but you won't forget me

how's life, Monday, 30 July 2012 21:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Never have I been a blue, calm sea
I have always been downy ocean

how's life, Monday, 30 July 2012 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

and the lanslide brought me lansdowne

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 30 July 2012 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

don't go back to rockville

ok maybe not that

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 30 July 2012 23:03 (six years ago) Permalink

would you stay if she promised you hampden?
will you ever win?

how's life, Monday, 30 July 2012 23:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Rock on, Arbutus woman

how's life, Monday, 30 July 2012 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

bellona donna

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:23 (six years ago) Permalink

all alone on the edge of... seton hall

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:28 (six years ago) Permalink

lol *hill darn

NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:29 (six years ago) Permalink

"Hackensack! Hackensack!/In the middle of my room..."

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 July 2012 23:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Hahaha that's so bad.

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Linthicum rings like a bell through the night...

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 02:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Somebody mentioned upthread that "Station Man" and "Hypnotized" carried over into 1975-76, and "Oh Well" is on the 1980 live album. Did any pre-75 material hang around in their live set after 1980?

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 03:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I recall a dj on the local classic rock station claiming "Hypnotized" popped up in the setlist for a recent reunion tour.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:15 (six years ago) Permalink

I think some of this stuff sneaked back into their set in '87, once Burnette & Vito replaced LB. Rattlesnake Shake became a staple on that tour, and Black Magic Woman got played as well.

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 04:31 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZVIEaKV4cI

Three Word Username, Sunday, 19 August 2012 19:11 (six years ago) Permalink

This poll, which I didn't participate sent me back through the entire Buckingham/Nicks-era catalog. In addition to Rumours (and I concur with Al's sentiment that it's pretty clearly the best, revisionism notwithstanding), the first stunner for me in the bunch was "Monday Morning," which is such an effusive way to open this era of their career. I also think Mirage is a pretty underrated record all in all. "Gypsy" and "Hold Me" are incredible singles -- and the production on the whole is kind of a perfect fusion of the Rumours smoothness and Tusk's out of tune guitars (the cover snap is also outstandingly Shakespearian).

One thing: the poll also prompted me to buy the Caillat book, which hipped me to how Lindsey apparently has this long history of physically abusing people -- particularly women (which is confirmed here).

How is this not better known about him? Do people just write it off as the price of genius or something?

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i read a chunk of Harris' book one long afternoon at the bookstore two summers ago, and while her blithe entitlement got on my nerves I had no reason to doubt the events therein.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I believe "Blithe Entitlement" was the original title of Mirage.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:43 (six years ago) Permalink

blithe entitlement is snorting coke with Stevie Nicks in a parked car outside a house where a big early eighties Hollywood party's taking place.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 August 2012 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink

I just read the Caillat book too! It was absolutely worth the read. I loved all the little production details. So much great information there. Wish he hadn't been as hung up on Nina from the Record Plant. What a cornball.

the same dope water as you (how's life), Sunday, 19 August 2012 22:34 (six years ago) Permalink

I love this exchange b/w Courtney Love and Nicks:

CL: One thing you've always done, I realized recently, is write about these muses, these other females, these goddesses. These parts of yourself. You don't write big, sexy love ballads about men. I wondered why that was for you? Because I do the same thing. I was listening to a song of Billy Corgan's yesterday called "I Need a Lover." It's sexy, okay. But I'm listening and I'm going, I can't write like this.

SN: You know who else asked me that same question a long time ago: Prince. We were really close for a while--we never went to bed together, but we had something that was very, very special. And he always said, Why don't you write songs that are more sexual? And I said, Well, because that's not the way I am in my real life. I am not a person who walks naked through the house. I will always have something beautiful on. It will be beautiful, and it will enhance me.

Those last two sentences!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

There's so many layers to Courtney's question. It's not clear to me that she's only -or even at all- asking about the lack of explicit sexuality in Stevie's music. The way she frames the question tells me she's trying to find out whether her own muse is as autonomous (from men) and feminist ("these other females", "these goddesses", "these parts of yourself") in spirit as Courtney has made her out to be ("Because I do the same thing").

Stevie's answer is very "Stevie", in that neo-Victorian way of hers, and in its final two sentences(which I doubt she would have uttered circa 1975), somewhat diva-ish. But in that answer too, there's more than that, which I can barely begin to articulate..

I was listening to Bjork yesterday, and it strikes me how different sexuality plays out there. Bjork seems to be perpetually startled by sex (and love too), and she keeps circling around this sense of awe and wonder, and gutturaly celebrating it. With Nicks you could say, well, she wants to cover "nakedness" up in something beautiful, and in this way she's just a big prude. But I think it's something else. I think, unlike Guomundsdottir, she's just not at all startled by her sexuality, or even desire more broadly, at all. If anything, what she's "startled" by (constantly disappointed by, more precisely) is the other side of it: the frustration of desire, the loss of the the loved one, and the ensuing aftermath of mourning or melancholy ("I know I could have loved you but you would not let me").

collardio gelatinous, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:54 (six years ago) Permalink

I just read the Caillat book too! It was absolutely worth the read. I loved all the little production details. So much great information there. Wish he hadn't been as hung up on Nina from the Record Plant. What a cornball.

He was kinda corny across the board though, no? It's one of the things I liked about the book. The guy outwardly acquired all the accoutrements of 70s California cool - the gig, the car, the babes, the deductible cocaine- but throughout it he retains a "wow gee-whiz" tone about the whole thing. He comes across as genuinely digging and respecting the people around him, without being blind to their flaws.

collardio gelatinous, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Agreed -- I thought it was a great read. How could you not be jealous of him?

You know, aside from the whole Lindsey-choking-him thing.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 17:27 (six years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I have just now realized Lindsey is playing here in town tonight. Snapped up a ticket pronto. Made me glad for this poll having reignited my Lindsey interest.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

I saw him in August: a brief, intense performance. Terrific.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 November 2012 15:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was a great show. I liked the contrast between his zenned-out stage patter and the taut, manic playing. Rock and roll.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 04:04 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

I will forever believe that the chorus to “Hold Me” was cooked up by Lindsey in the studio and that he deserves a writing credit. The original refrain is shit.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:20 (four months ago) Permalink

Sounds like he added the background gremlins and tightened the lyric?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbYV6PO6UKY

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:23 (four months ago) Permalink

xp :) every good blog post starts with a pre-emptive riposte to the reader

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 December 2018 20:23 (four months ago) Permalink

Christine stands in opposition to the general narrative that Lindsay came on board and pushed the band into being a pop juggernaut (not to diminish his contributions)

but Christine's style and songwriting was already pretty established, there's stuff in the Bob Welch/Kirwin era that could easy slot into FM or Rumours

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:31 (four months ago) Permalink

like this for example, love this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmJtRnazW20

No Smockin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:31 (four months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Is there a good 70s or 80s live version of “angel” on any sanctioned release or good boot?

calstars, Monday, 15 April 2019 00:29 (one week ago) Permalink


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