vinyl starts out clear. then they add carbon black to it. if you think the adding of carbon black makes the vinyl sound better then you should also look into drawing around just the edge of your cds with a green marker. you have to use a special green marker though I'm the only guy I know who has them. they start to lose potency after 5-10 cds. they are 20 dollars apiece how many would you like?
― tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
did you just say "don't take it from me, take it from me"
no no - I don't "cut" records I just make music. "Cutting records" means actually producing the master. John Golden, Andy VenDette, guys like that. Please tell them about how clear colored vinyl doesn't "sound as good" as opaque colored vinyl. Then get a tattoo of the look they give you because that look will be priceless.
― tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://turntabling.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Man-or-Astroman-Your-Weight-On-The-Moon.jpg
^ way to go
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
i was only stating what vinyl 'experts' say.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1212/644691063_995935c97d.jpg
objectively superior
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm with contenderizer; using vinyl records to make useful household objects like ashtrays, or placemats, is definitely a better option than attempting to listen to music on them. Vinyl sucks. Hated it in the 80s, hate it now.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
ha AG no I know I'm just being a dick as usual. vinyl expert-ism is a whole field of confirmation bias & subjective response, all of which is valid really - if I have a pressing that looks so awesome to me that I'm all amped for my listening experience then probably I'm in a really receptive headspace when I sit down to listen, whereas if I've been digesting received wisdom about which colors of vinyl are best I'm probably going to be focusing hard on the flaws. The quality of the mastering job is of infinitely more importance than the color of the vinyl, as is the plant where it got pressed, but only the hardest of the hardcore even talk about this stuff - and yet, many have opinions about whether the color of the dye added to the batch changes the sound on the vinyl, which was imprinted onto it by a plate.
mastering & cutting are probably the most important steps in the process imo and if you care about the sound of your vinyl that's what you oughta study, but unfortunately that means if yr favorite band goes to the most affordable pressing plant, no other choice they make about the pressing will improve the sound. if you're really hardcore audiophile you'd get records because you like the guys who worked on them, but who listens to music like that?
― tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
No offense to anyone who pays the rent by fobbing off this totally inferior format on suckers, of course. Friends forever, Scott!
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
if you're really hardcore audiophile you'd get records because you like the guys who worked on them, but who listens to music like that?
Plenty of people. Usually they only listen to music made in the 60s or 70s as "music was better then" or "records sounded better then"
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 20 July 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
all of you guys should have a t.v. show together and you should call that show THE EXPERT SHOW.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
i would be the cute one
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 July 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
I'll be the nude one
― tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 July 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
what I've heard that sounds most convincing about "records sounded better then" is that the plants were running day & night and you had a surplus of dudes who knew what they were doing, because they were lifers. this makes simple intuitive sense: you could also probably buy a better manual typewriter during the era when there was a lot of competition in the field & people bought manual typewriters
― tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 July 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, my big lesson in this has been the sound quality of 70s and 80s pressings by major label artists. the records are sometimes so thin they might as well be flexi-discs (RCA's "dynaflex" and suchlike), but they usually sound great, especially in comparison to the shoddy "deluxe" crap you so often get today. the vinyl can't have been super premium or anything, it was just industry standard goo, but the product is the result of skilled craftsmen putting in a lifetime of 40-hour weeks on top-of-the-line machinery. super pro mastering, cutting and pressing - makes all the difference.
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 July 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
"...putting in a lifetimes of 40-hour weeks..."
― contenderizer, Friday, 20 July 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
not that there aren't people out there today doing excellent work
i loved this out of the gate, and it's growing on me. i now like "eula", cheesy as it is, and most of green. probably gonna be in the running for my album of the year.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 21 July 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
this is one of those i albums i keep putting on because it doesn't actively annoy me and then i slowly grow to love it.
― ryan, Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
is this album good
if you liked the last two
― skrill xx (cozen), Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
It's different than the last two, that much is for sure.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
I like Red but not Blue and love this
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 July 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
ok i have been listening through this and i def like green better than yellow
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Friday, 27 July 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
Green is def more interesting based on the playthroughs I did
although not quite interesting enough to make me want to buy it
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Friday, 27 July 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
CAN'T FORGET THE TASTE OF MY OWN TONGUE
― markers, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
Tastes like chicken iirc
― ledge, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
na but I do <3 eula.
― ledge, Friday, 27 July 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
green is more varied than yellow, but the songwriting isn't anywhere near as strong, overall, imo. and i like the more elaborate production and arrangements on yellow.
― contenderizer, Friday, 27 July 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
you know what's kind of a better overblown arty proggy mainstream hard rock record than this? the new smashing pumpkins
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
ugh no. the Pumpkins record *sounds* better than they have in a while but the songs just aren't there.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Saw someone with a Baroness tshirt on today.Well, bye.
― Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
tons of kids coming into the shop w/baroness shirts, but i think thats thx to them opening for meshuggah recently
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, even as a Pumpkins stan and someone who enjoys Oceania much more than I expected too, there is no way it is better than Yellow & Green.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
guys i'm trying to troll whiney here c'mon
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19267248
Apparently this is the Baroness tour bus. I saw them in Bristol last night, they were incredibly. Hope to fuck everyone's ok.
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/78321/article_9a6ec1abcc35ecab_1345038807_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg
Holy shit. That really sucks.
― how's life, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
Front page of BBC News website at the moment.
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, story here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-19267414
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
crossing fingers. God damn.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
^^^
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
fuck i know the tour manager, he's a soundguy at a club in town :(
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
"One of the pair who suffered multiple fractures was taken to Frenchay Hospital in Bristol and the other to the Royal United Hospital in Bath.
The seven with more minor injuries were taken to the Royal United Hospital (RUH)."
Thankfully it is looking like there are no fatalities. Which is very lucky when you look at the state of the coach.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
It was a bit weird seeing this on the news. I walked past the coach on Tuesday night and had a good look, next time I see it it's stuck in a tree.
― nate woolls, Thursday, 16 August 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
Nice of Rick Ross to deliver the news.
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
my favorite song on this right now is "Twinkler" ... is that weird?
― alpine static, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
No fatalities in a fucking tour bus falling 30 feet off a precipice sounds pretty damn fortunate.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
― alpine static, Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:15 AM (34 minutes ago)
not at all! it's this album's "steel that sleeps the eye" (nearly the same vocal, tbh), and "steel" is gorgeous. plus it's track 5. track 5 is always dope.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
The band members of Baroness and their crew are recovering from injuries sustained after their tour bus crashed outside of Bath, England early on Wednesday morning.John Baizley has broken his left arm and left leg. Allen Blickle and Matt Maggioni each suffered fractured vertebrae. All three remain in the hospital as of this writing. Pete Adams has been treated and released from the hospital.Three of the five crew members who were on the bus have also been treated and released. One member is still undergoing testing. The driver of the bus remains in critical condition.Please stay tuned for further updates. Thank you for all the support during this extremely difficult time.
John Baizley has broken his left arm and left leg. Allen Blickle and Matt Maggioni each suffered fractured vertebrae. All three remain in the hospital as of this writing. Pete Adams has been treated and released from the hospital.
Three of the five crew members who were on the bus have also been treated and released. One member is still undergoing testing. The driver of the bus remains in critical condition.
Please stay tuned for further updates. Thank you for all the support during this extremely difficult time.
― nate woolls, Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
from Facebook
― nate woolls, Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
just saw that. How serious is vertebral fracture? It does not usually impact the nerves, does it?
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link