Mercyful Fate: Classic or Dud?

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I'm surprised there's never been a proper Mercyful Fate thread before! Having started to delve deeper and deeper into metal over the past year or so, I've come to prize Don't Break the Oath as one of my favorite records in the entire genre. The first time I heard it was a revelation, and I love pretty much everything about it. I can see King Diamond's voice being a deal-breaker for some, but I can get with it--and the playing and the riffs are so flat-out amazing that they totally overcome any reservations I might have about it.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:55 (ten years ago) link

classic tho it took 20 years to get into his voice like it did with Dio

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:58 (ten years ago) link

CLASSIC AND I'M FPing ANY FUCKER THAT SAYS OTHERWISE

Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:01 (ten years ago) link

classic. DON'T BREAK THE OATH

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:41 (ten years ago) link

Absolutely classic for Don't Break the Oath and everything that came before it. (Everything that came after it, not so much...)

I have a special fondness for the first EP (Nuns Have No Fun) and other tracks from that period (conveniently collected on Return of the Vampire. The actual sound of it is so purely haunted and evil.

And King Diamond was on fire back in those days.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:51 (ten years ago) link

A top 5 band for me. I started to write a long graf about how I feel about them but it's like, people would laugh at how highly I esteem this band. I love this fucking band more than all but maybe three other bands ever.

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:54 (ten years ago) link

Absolutely classic for Don't Break the Oath and everything that came before it. (Everything that came after it, not so much...)

This isn't true btw. Both In the Shadows and Time are outstanding albums, and their highlights stand alongside the best tracks in the band's catalog: "Shadows," "Angel of Light," "The Bell Witch," "Nightmare Be Thy Name": these are all great songs.

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 23:56 (ten years ago) link

Sure.
But absolutely classic songs?
Not so much, imho.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:02 (ten years ago) link

those songs stand alongside anything from the first two imo - and the guitar work by that point has, if anything, gotten better. I think the first two benefit from historical perspective - they're acknowledged classics that sort of came out of nowhere, they get the debut-and-followup benefit. Both Time and In the Shadows are great records front to back

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:04 (ten years ago) link

I don't hear it. But I think it is better than King Diamond solo for sure.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:09 (ten years ago) link

classic tho it took 20 years to get into his voice like it did with Dio

― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, June 13, 2012 5:58 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Damn, 20 years! You're a persistent guy... I've had a harder time getting used to the black metal voice than any of the high-voiced dudes.

Clarke B., Thursday, 14 June 2012 00:42 (ten years ago) link

I don't hear it. But I think it is better than King Diamond solo for sure.

whaaaaaaaat

Fatal Portrait: total, undeniable classic
Abigail: Ditto
Conspiracy: just a batwing-hair beneath those two

decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 14 June 2012 01:24 (ten years ago) link

Not only are Mercyful Fate undeniably fucking classic, but Force of Evil, the band made up of MF and King Diamond solo-band alumni, made two killer albums in the early 2000s that really deserve a wider hearing.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 14 June 2012 01:41 (ten years ago) link

Fatal Portrait is an interesting transition album, where Diamond and his henchmen are slowly shifting from the layered and mystique Mercyful Fate sound and songs to the more straightforward approach of his future solo output.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Thursday, 14 June 2012 01:49 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

why didn't anyone ever tell me this band sounded like this

currently listening to Melissa and this is what my face is doing:

o_O O_O ^_^ \m/

(yes, my face went "\m/", I am certain you all know exactly what I mean)

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:51 (ten years ago) link

I'm so happy for you!

If you come to visit we can drive the 20 minutes or so to pay homage to King Diamond at his house.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:52 (ten years ago) link

what is this bit in "Evil" that sounds like "Eye of the Tiger"

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:53 (ten years ago) link

I'm so glad I contributed to this:

Satan is Alive: A Tribute to Mercyful Fate

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:54 (ten years ago) link

"Evil" is like 14 songs mushed together, so I'm not surprised you hear "Eye of the Tiger" in the mix; I haven't heard "Eye of the Tiger" in so long all I can remember is the opening lines.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:01 (ten years ago) link

I think people complaining about dude's voice are the most po-faced people alive

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:11 (ten years ago) link

i probably say this on here a lot but KD has one of if not THE greatest Metal voices ever

coopflaggypost (Noodle Vague), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:33 (ten years ago) link

feel like I did a good deed today

:)

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:14 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

best band

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:39 (nine years ago) link

where does one begin w/Mercyful Fate

crüt, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:50 (nine years ago) link

DON'T BREAK THE OATH

boy_slayer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:54 (nine years ago) link

Just search "Gypsy" and "Nightmare" from that album.

Also, lol at Liz Frazer appearance on "Nightmare."

boy_slayer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:57 (nine years ago) link

j/k

boy_slayer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 08:18 (nine years ago) link

crut, Don't Break the Oath and Melissa are both awesome, King Diamond's Abigail is great too.

Neil S, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:57 (nine years ago) link

I discovered Don't Break the Oath for the first time a couple of months ago. Holy shit, what an amazing record.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:01 (nine years ago) link

those first two Fate albums are basically the bedrock. King's debut Fatal Portrait is great, so's Abigail. Fate reunion albums Time and In the Shadows are also both excellent. Bootlegs from their early years are fucking HOT, they play really well and just burn shit down. (And King's patter is just the sort of dramatic metal stuff that everybody loves.)

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:27 (nine years ago) link

DON'T BREAK THE OATH

^^^

Twerkin in a coal mine (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:30 (nine years ago) link

i saw then live in '99, such a great live show

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:56 (nine years ago) link

aero, y'all ever check out The Brats...the band that i think maybe 2 or 3 of the Mercyful Fate guys were in before Mercyful Fate? kinda awesome/cute band that i guess could be described as biker metal/new wave/power pop?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKsNfKRwLVM

the purpose driven trife (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:58 (nine years ago) link

By the way, both Melissa and Don't Break the Oath have cover art that's are in the all-time pantheon, too.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:04 (nine years ago) link

yeah the Brats are p. cool. Fun stuff. I'll buy basically anything pre- or ex-Fate, that band is the best

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:22 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

The riff-solo combination from 4:18-5:00 in "Satan's Fall" is so perfect.

lazulum, Thursday, 11 April 2013 02:08 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

:D

j., Sunday, 13 October 2013 04:32 (nine years ago) link

TONIIIIIGHT THE CIRCLE IS MEETING AGAIIIIIN

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 October 2013 04:33 (nine years ago) link

definitely a MF kind of day, kicking out the jams with Melissa...

Neil S, Sunday, 13 October 2013 09:34 (nine years ago) link

I'M A CORPSE
I'M A CORPSE
I'M A CORPSE WITHOUT SOUL

ΙΧΘΥΣ blindness (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 13 October 2013 10:18 (nine years ago) link

"Satan's Fall" is absolutely fucking epic

Neil S, Sunday, 13 October 2013 11:49 (nine years ago) link

I really wish he'd take MF off of hiatus. I actually liked 9, it was a more modernized, streamlined version of Fate. and maybe he could convince Denner to come back while he's at it.

I'm bummed that I never got to see them. I had a ticket to see Mercyful Fate in 1999 in Atlanta, but at the time I lived in Tallahassee and had no car. The show got cancelled so it became a moot point, and then...hiatusville.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 October 2013 14:23 (nine years ago) link

oh and uhm In the Shadows is an underrated Fate album. like "Bell Witch" is in my top ten MF songs of all time.

I AM THE AIR YOU BREATHEEEEEEEEE
I AM THE BELL WIIIIIITCH

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 October 2013 14:23 (nine years ago) link

yeah agreed, I just listened to it and though it doesn't quite hit the operatic heights of the first few albums it's still really good. Those boys could play.

Neil S, Sunday, 13 October 2013 14:28 (nine years ago) link

one of my favorite MF tropes was when King would go into Bee Gees harmony-land.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 October 2013 14:34 (nine years ago) link

still the best

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:32 (nine years ago) link

I'm all about "Black Masses"

Neanderthal, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:40 (nine years ago) link

MF were like one band that could actually convince me to worship SAtan cuz it just sounds so damn fun

Neanderthal, Friday, 18 October 2013 02:11 (nine years ago) link

God that scream at the end of "A Corpse Without Soul"

SATAN HAS TAKEN HIS TOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Neanderthal, Friday, 18 October 2013 02:12 (nine years ago) link

damn great tat neanderthal

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Monday, 13 March 2017 02:06 (five years ago) link

^^ excellent work

a but (brimstead), Monday, 13 March 2017 02:36 (five years ago) link

thx guys. it hurt a lot more than my other 4, but been wanting that one for eons.

so, Mercyful Fate POX time? here's mine...

1) Evil (probably the only band where my #1 song has p much never changed)
2) A Dangerous Meeting
3) The Bell Witch
4) The Oath
5) Nightmare Be Thy Name (this is a late addition - I love Time more than I used to now)
6) Black Funeral
7) Satan's Fall
8) Nightmare
9) Melissa
10) Torture (1629) (this is one from Dead Again, which while not a great album...this is a killer opening track)

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 March 2017 03:43 (five years ago) link

Oh god.

Evil
Nuns Have No Fun
Devil Eyes
Melissa
Time
Desecration of Souls
Nightmare
Curse of the Pharoahs
Is That You, Melissa?
Into the Coven

jmm, Monday, 13 March 2017 16:13 (five years ago) link

In the Shadows tonight. god I still love this one. helluva comeback album.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 04:02 (five years ago) link

Evil*
Nightmare
A Corpse Without Soul
Into the Coven
Time
A Dangerous Meeting
Devil Eyes
Melissa
The Oath
Return of the Vampire

* wanted to put something else at #1, but…

Not raving but drooling (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 06:28 (five years ago) link

I should have had Corpse Without Soul in mine. So many moments in that song.

jmm, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 14:01 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Can we all agree that "Welcome Princess of Hell" is a better title than "Welcome Princes of Hell," the correct one?

(Also, Neanderthal, that fucking tattoo is amazing.)

Comment elles torment (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 10:45 (five years ago) link

it will always be "princess" to me and I have always thought this

Amen.

Comment elles torment (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 02:18 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

princess of hell otm

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 July 2018 13:53 (four years ago) link

nothing but respect for MY princess

J. Sam, Sunday, 8 July 2018 17:23 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

ALL HAIL SATAN

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 August 2018 01:28 (four years ago) link

🙌 and do the 🤘

Devilock, Monday, 20 August 2018 07:44 (four years ago) link

The Lost in Vegas dudes tackled "Melissa" on the weekend: blown away by the music, tried to figure out what to do with the voice

The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2018 11:49 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

if they don't announce a US tour for the MF reunion next year, I may fly overseas to catch it.

still bums me the fuck out that whatever issue exists between King and Denner can't be resolved, cos the Denner/Shermann albums ripped, but 2/5ths of Fate is better than 0/5ths of Fate, I guess....plus it's not like Wead is bad.

they also claim to have written new material.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 September 2019 23:46 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

RIP Timi Hansen :(

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 November 2019 21:08 (three years ago) link

Very sad. Hansen anchored two of the most ridiculously talented metal bands of our generation, Fate and King Diamond's band circa 1987.

A. Begrand, Monday, 4 November 2019 21:35 (three years ago) link

King just posted a very touching tribute message to him on FB.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Monday, 4 November 2019 22:13 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I went from loving Dead Again to hating it and haven't played it since 1999.

Threw it on today.... it's actually quite good! Not really any all-time classics on it, but mega consistent.

"Banshee" is my fav

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:07 (one year ago) link

cannot stop listening to them lately. I remember loving the last album, 9, when it came out, then later souring on it when I felt it was too 'modernized trend hopping" MF. I listened to it again last night and I don't think that's fair.

there's a LITTLE bit of that in "Sold My Soul", and the song structures are mega-simplified, but they'd even done that on Time with much success. there's definitely some really good material on there, like "Last Rites", "Burn in Hell", "Church of St Anne". some forgettable, but it's listenable!

Into the Unknown is the one I barely know whatsoever. It was actually the album that delayed my MF-dom by 3 years, because I had gotten excited by the MF music I heard them play on Beavis and Butthead....only to hear the opening track be a Satanic invocation ("our father, who art in Hell!"), and me being a Fundamentalist, that snapped the door shut.

I don't think a niche thread is worth it, but what's everybody's POV for Mercyful Fate?

Mine is...

"Evil"
"Bell Witch"
"A Dangerous Meeting"
"The Oath"
"Nightmare Be Thy Name"

Don't Break the Oath MOSTLY works as a continuous album for me, but those two tracks mentioned are ones I can listen standalone.

I do love Melissa a lot but I wanted to be inclusive of other albums.

"Salvation Army FUCK!" (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 March 2021 14:53 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I WAS BORN ON THE CEMETERY
UNDER THE SIGN OF THE MOOOOOOOOON

brimstead, Saturday, 8 May 2021 00:57 (one year ago) link

Best song ever. I can never grow tired of discussing Fate

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 May 2021 00:58 (one year ago) link

yeah I just got the CD reissues from last year and they’re totally kicking my ass.

brimstead, Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:06 (one year ago) link

OH, THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN
NOT TO PLAY WITH THE POWERS OF HELL

pomenitul, Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:19 (one year ago) link

Quoth some RYM rando:

Half a star lower than it deserves due to insanely evil lyrics, espicially off of "The Oath", which is obviously the worst track off the album cause of the evil lyrics, but still pretty great album overall.

WTF???

pomenitul, Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:24 (one year ago) link

Can't believe a metal fan had silly opinions

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:25 (one year ago) link

Ok but you gotta admit that a metal fan docking off a star because the lyrics are too 'insanely evil' is something else.

pomenitul, Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:27 (one year ago) link

*half a star

pomenitul, Saturday, 8 May 2021 01:27 (one year ago) link

lol the evil lyrics are one of the selling points.

I FORBID THEE ENTRANCE HEREEE, YOU STAND ON HALLOWED GROUNNNNDD

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 May 2021 02:56 (one year ago) link

I once saw a RYM reviewer downgrade an album because the lyrics scared him. It wasn't even metal or sinister at all (Cairo - Conflict & Dreams). Review is gone now.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 8 May 2021 17:20 (one year ago) link

THE DUDE HAS ACTUAL BONES ON HIS MIC STAND YOU GOTTA EMBRACE THE GLORIOUS SATANIC EVIL! HOWL LIKE A WOLF AND A WITCH WILL OPEN THE DOOR!!

brimstead, Saturday, 8 May 2021 23:34 (one year ago) link

This is how the boomers must have felt when people started docking points for too many guitar solos.

Siegbran, Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:34 (one year ago) link

This is how the boomers must have felt when people started docking points for too many guitar solos.

Siegbran, Sunday, 9 May 2021 10:34 (one year ago) link

excessive guitar solos + micstand bones-level evil = my shit

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:50 (one year ago) link

Eh, I knew Christian kids in the 80s and 90s who loved the sound of Led Zeppelin or Marilyn Manson but were terrified of the occult or Satanic content. There's a reason Christian rock existed. Really don't think it's generational. If anything, I imagine it's less common now.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Sunday, 9 May 2021 12:59 (one year ago) link

Lol Marilyn Manson basically tore my church apart. The youth group leader demanded one of our members "break" their Manson CD when she found out she owned one. They did!

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 May 2021 14:18 (one year ago) link

One of those rare occasions where I fully stand behind the church.

Siegbran, Sunday, 9 May 2021 15:29 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

there's like a live stream going on about the show in Berlin tonight?

https://www.twitch.tv/kingdiamondofficial

StanM, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:32 (five months ago) link

They sound great in the new live clips coming out.

Wish I could go to the Norway date (with Candlemass, Tribulation, and Unto Others)

jmm, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 23:52 (five months ago) link

holy fuck the new song whips ASS.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 00:42 (five months ago) link

I gotta make it to Vegas to see em dammit

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 00:57 (five months ago) link

I have to work on the 19th but I had been considering it before that got confirmed

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 00:59 (five months ago) link

Haha, King's Twitch emotes are awesome

jmm, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 01:11 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

US Tour announced!!!

with KREATOR.

10/25/2022 Dallas, TX – The Factory
10/27/2022 Phoenix, AZ – Arizona Financial Theatre
10/29/2022 Inglewood, CA – Youtube Theater
10/30/2022 Wheatland, CA – Hard Rock Live Sacramento
11/01/2022 Denver, CO – Fillmore Auditorium
11/03/2022 Gary, IN – Hard Rock Casino Northern Indiana
11/04/2022 Cincinnati, OH – The Andrew J. Brady Music Center
11/05/2022 Detroit, MI – Masonic
11/08/2022 Silver Spring, MD – The Fillmore Silver Spring
11/10/2022 Brooklyn, NY – Kings Theater
11/11/2022 Laval, QC – Place Bell
11/13/2022 Boston, MA – MGM Music Hall At Fenway
11/14/2022 Philadelphia, PA – The Fillmore Philadelphia
11/16/2022 Atlanta, GA – Tabernacle

Mr Haaland's Opus (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 14:36 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

DON'T TOUCH
NEVER EVER STEAL

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 November 2022 05:03 (three weeks ago) link

otm

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 10 November 2022 07:33 (three weeks ago) link

Under 90 minutes til showtime and I can't believe this is finally happening.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 22:36 (two weeks ago) link

My life is complete

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 17 November 2022 04:15 (two weeks ago) link


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