Savages

has anyone checked to see if DeRogatis lives?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/31/arts/music/savages-a-london-band-plays-three-new-york-clubs.html?ref=music

They are/were hanging out in NYC for a month or so playing new songs and still getting compared to Brit postpunk of yore

They have a new collaboration album out, anyone heard it?

saw them last night at saint vitus. i love that they're going for it, you know? they have a plan. they engage the crowd. they even took a group bow at the end of the set. lovely. the drummer is a powerhouse, guitarist wears a poker face and plays reverbed-out sound washes reminding me variously of bryan gregory (with similar hair hanging in face) and the edge. the singer had theatric/awkward stage moves like sorta ziggy. whether they have the songs to take it to the next level, and whether she has the voice, are the questions.

http://www.spin.com/2015/05/savages-talk-new-album/?utm_source=spinfacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spinfacebook

new album in the works, coming late 2015/early 2016, jehnny sez it's extremely heavy

http://thequietus.com/articles/19063-savages-the-answer

New album announced, lead single here with a Siouxsie fronting Killing Joke vibe. Nice.

I wasn't so keen on their first album, but that song is brilliant.

This will come as a shock to many of you but I FUCKING LOVE THIS

1969 ok?

Man, that's great. I feel like I've been waiting for a new album for them forever, totally looking forward to it.

cool song but it's a very polished sound though? would like to hear a live version

also wish they'd go for a visual aesthetic that looked less like a soft drink commercial but hard to come up with stuff ofc

i wish the video had focused more on sexy ian curtis because i am in love with her but overall i don't mind the canned smells like savage spirit vibe of the video. fits the song. i hope every song on the new album is as cool as that one. i really want to like cool new rock that rocks by rocking women.

haha, I like your enthusiasm

I liked the first record quite a bit, hope to see them live some time, they're said to kick ass

just don't ask me what this french circus bowie thing is, okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZjBr3I9vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9rmjVvPAUA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prSCRrk1JFs

you have to see the french ziggys in the ziggy clip though...lol...

Irl lol at first french ziggy

is her boyfriend JOHNNY HOSTILE still around?

i still can't get over a dude in the 2010s rolling around w/that quincy punk name

New single, new video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ZpPsaMNMM

I really, really dig this band from top to bottom

oof, ol' cheekbones kills me every time. they are kinda the Interpol of my dreams. they should re-do old Interpol songs and make them better.

how long till David Fincher casts her in something I wonder

anyway great song

they are kinda the Interpol of my dreams. they should re-do old Interpol songs and make them better.

I endorse this idea

The Kiss of feminist post punk revivalism: a great band let down only by their lack of many good songs.

holy shit this is incredible.

Excellent!

Yeah, this is really quite astonishing. The amount of build on it, plus the false ending -> big triumphant (but dark) finish is so, so perfect.

When is the next album out? Their first was so perfect that I didn't think that they were going to be able to keep that mood going, but singles indicate that oh yes they can and they will.

The new album is out Jan 22.

This new song reminds me of The Glee Club, a one-and-done 4AD band from the 90s.

Everything I've heard from this album suggests it's going to be way better than the debut.

Here, you’ll get a different side of firting ("I’m not gonna hurt you/ 'Cause I'm flirting with you/ I'm not gonna hurt myself"), the messiness of love ("This is what you get when you mess with love"), lust ("Sleep with me/ And we'd still be friends/ Or I know/ I’ll go insane"), sexual fluidity ("When I take a man/ Or a woman/ They're both the same/ They're both human"), sexual discovery ("When I'm with you/ I want to do/ All the things that/ I’ve never done”), sexual power ("When I take a man/ At my command/ My love will stand/ The test of time"), jealousy/threats ("If you don't love me/ You don't love anybody")

some truly, truly terrible lyrics here

I've listened to the new album a couple of times and it's... just ok. Fairly monochromatic, the title track is an early favorite but there's a number of tracks that make no impact at all.

Yeah, the first three tracks released (all on Spotify) have pretty thoroughly un-sold me on them.

I love Adore, but on this new album doesn't really grab me by the jugular like the first one

On spotify now btw

Just listened, and had the exact same reaction. "Adore" is the clear standout, but it is all a bit...drab?

That's a shame to hear. A forgettable second album can be a career killer.

FWIW, the reviews have been strong so far, though the gist of the ones that I skimmed from Pitchfork and AV Club were both "good, but no Silence Yourself."

Solid reviews are one thing but if there isn't any buzz around it I wonder how long it'll take before everyone's moved on.

Huh -- I haven't listened closely yet but over the course of a few distracted commuting plays I've been finding it more interesting than the first. I'll have to give it a better listen this weekend but at least with the first one I had to hear it a dozen times or so before I decided it was worth buying, whereas I already know I'll be picking this one up. So much of the buzz last time around seemed to revolve around their live performance -- if they can maintain that intensity and keep touring I think they'll be fine even if the consensus comes out against this album (though I just took a peek at Metacritic and both the critic and reader scores are currently higher for this than Silence Yourself).

OK so the second half does drag a bit. Overall I dig it though.

i really don't understand why i don't like this band a lot more than i do

here's a post punk throwback band I love, Oaks

https://modernradio.bandcamp.com/album/animal-life

> the first one I had to hear it a dozen times or so before I decided it was worth buying

I'm impressed, there's no way I'd give a dozen listens to anything I was on the fence about. Unless it was more of a case of something in the back of your head kept pulling you back, but even then... kudos for your perseverance. I'm sure I've missed out on things that simply required more time.

I think the first album is much more immediate than the second, largely because the drums feel muffled to me on the second album.

> I'm impressed, there's no way I'd give a dozen listens to anything I was on the fence about.

Generally I wouldn't either but I loooved the 1st single and all signs pointed to it being something I should like. Plus most of my listening time these days is during my relatively long commute or in the office where I'm trying to get reading or work done at the same time, so I can easily play a new album a dozen times over the course of three or four days and still not have a great sense of it. Probably took me close to that many plays to realize I loved the last New Order album which I thought was terrible during the first listen.

You may be right that you've missed out on things that required more time, but I've probably missed out on just as much by giving things more time than they deserve when I could've been trying something else.

i really don't understand why i don't like this band a lot more than i do

Same. As my friend quipped when I took him to see the band a few years back, "I've shopped in that used record bin already."

Never heard the band before but I checked out the new album on Spotify and it's great!