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anyone else hear them? anyone lucky enough to see them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxl6u8ROWKM

this reminds me of, slightly, when the first Interpol EP came out and everyone thought they were going to be so important. Hopefully Savages won't deflate as soon as they actually release something, but something tells me they are better.

akm, Friday, 1 June 2012 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

disgusting band

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:44 (six years ago) Permalink

got an email a few weeks back along the lines of "!!! SAVAGES CONFIRMED FOR FIELD DAY !!!"

mmmhmmm

tpp, Friday, 1 June 2012 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

actually this rules, feel you on the early interpol thing

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 June 2012 14:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm always a little wary of bands who seem so perfect, They read Celine! They sound like the Birthday Party crossed with Gang of Four times the Pop Group! The bits I've heard online are fine but nothing that particularly grabbed me. They certainly sound like an English Post-Punk band.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 1 June 2012 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

...which in my book is a good thing. I think their influences are still on their sleeves but I'm hoping for further growth.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 1 June 2012 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

been looking forward to hearing what they've been up to, they used to practice at ours and it always sounded cool

Crackle Box, Saturday, 2 June 2012 12:00 (six years ago) Permalink

kinda expecting them all to fall out and split up by the end of the year tho, ha, there will be a lineup change or too i'm sure

Crackle Box, Saturday, 2 June 2012 12:03 (six years ago) Permalink

eugh, *two hangover

Crackle Box, Saturday, 2 June 2012 12:03 (six years ago) Permalink

There are seven or eight like bands per block but none with as cute a lead singer, that's it, right?

poxen, Saturday, 2 June 2012 12:10 (six years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

i really liked this lot on later..

mark e, Thursday, 4 October 2012 10:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I watched that and enjoyed it/them a lot. Hilarious to read the "call that music"-type tweets from misogynist rockist grandads afterwards.

I see they've got an album out next week on vinyl only.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Confused now - Amazon says it's double vinyl, HMV that it's a 12" single with a bonus CD!

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I think it's just single vinyl http://popnoire.bigcartel.com/product/savages-12-live-ep-i-am-here

Map Ref 52°N 6°W (useless chamber), Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:35 (six years ago) Permalink

"Husbands" guitar sound is quite the Dead Kennedys homage. But, again, I like the stew they're drawing from, just got the live EP now.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 5 October 2012 00:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i like the urgent vocals on husbands.

they have this sort of "aura" around them and maybe it's a contrived aesthetic but they seem like one of the more interesting new bands in a while to me

monotony, Friday, 5 October 2012 01:29 (six years ago) Permalink

There's an album now? I've been loving "Husbands" for months.

this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Friday, 5 October 2012 03:43 (six years ago) Permalink

John and Jehn is pretty cool too if you like that kind of thing "and we run" should have been a bigger hit imo

Crackle Box, Friday, 5 October 2012 12:56 (six years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

http://silenceyourself.savagesband.com/

Their forthcoming LP, "Silence Yourself", is now streaming on their website.

Maria Tesla Pizzeria, Monday, 29 April 2013 14:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Saw them live a couple weeks ago. Furious amount of sound they generate - breathtakingly so. The Dead Kennedy's reference upthread is particularly spot on as my first thought was "Siouxsie & the opening to 'Holiday In Cambodia.'" It's a great sound, but after a hour all the songs just felt similar. Suspect they could make a truly great album if they worked on the material more.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 29 April 2013 15:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw them too in SF, one of the best live bands I've seen in a long time.

akm, Monday, 29 April 2013 15:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Sunday April 28 New York Times Jon Pareles writeup and podcast mention

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 April 2013 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Very serious facsimile this lot.

Hinklepicker, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Curious to see them live, but eh, just think they lean a bit too hard on post-punk during a time when that period feels like it's been wrung dry as a source of inspiration.

Position Position, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Reading the fancy Pitchfork thing now and their rise seems so inevitable and choreographed. Perhaps they are completely natural and authentic but it feels like we are being manipulated by another kind of hype machine. The rote nature of the music is the main reason I am unconvinced by this band but this kind of cool and slick marketing is another.

Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know about slick marketing, or even what the "hype machine" means these days. When I first came across them it was through genuine buzz around their live shows. Of course if you don't like the music then you'll read excitement as hype.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 08:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, if you have gripes with "cool and slick marketing" take it to the daft punk thread

monotony, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I take DL's point - if I liked the music then the hype probably would not bother me. I am not enraged by the ineptitude of the music by the way just kind of underwhelmed by something which is clearly so special and exciting to so many. Maybe I am just jaded and old.

Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:13 (five years ago) Permalink

just think they lean a bit too hard on post-punk during a time when that period feels like it's been wrung dry as a source of inspiration.

idk unless there's a big tranche of stuff I'm missing I think this is a pretty good time for a band like them to stand out. the only currently-happening stuff that came to mind as soundalikes for me is all these American anarcho/goth/postpunk bands that are springing up now, but I doubt most ppl who grab the Savages album are gonna hear any of them. bits of it also reminded me of Throwing Muses somewhat. liked it way more than I was expecting overall

congo nattefrost (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Was that Pitchfork piece actually linked yet? Looks like not, so:

http://pitchfork.com/features/cover-story/reader/savages/

Keep in mind I had to switch computers to actually get the darn thing to load fully. Good use of the technology.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 15:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I am into their unsmiling meannesss. I like this record.

Maria Tesla Pizzeria, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 15:48 (five years ago) Permalink

that Later.. performance was really something IMO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neRGpHLj1EQ

piscesx, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:35 (five years ago) Permalink

When I first came across them it was through genuine buzz around their live shows.

Same here. I first heard about them over a year ago when one of the UK music blogs I check in with mentioned their live show and to keep watch.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 08:07 (five years ago) Permalink

When did Pitchfork start formatting features like that? That's pretty cool.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:16 (five years ago) Permalink

holy fuck @ everything about this group

this is really shaping up to be a phenomenal year for music

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I love this year

xp Matt, I think the first P4k feature like that was Bat for Lashes, but it didn't play with video like this does. I got so unsettled by the band staring at me that I couldn't concentrate on the text and had to read the lo-tech version instead.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Is everyone else able to read that feature OK? I couldn't read half of it in Chrome, tried it on Linux & Windows.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I read it fine in Chrome on a 2 month old computer

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 13:54 (five years ago) Permalink

wow @ the p-fork article ...
thats impressive ...

mark e, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:22 (five years ago) Permalink

whoever mentioned east bay ray in relation to the guitar O T M. i half agree about this being almost comically boxed in by the period perfect postpunk costuming, but that later performance is astonishing. fuck yeah. reminds me a bit of his electro blue voice (italian band), but less heavy, noisy + psychedelic.

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Great ambient music, in the sense of "It's definitely Siouxsie/East Bay Ray with further noises and therefore easy to have playing without worrying too much." (I assure you, a compliment.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:30 (five years ago) Permalink

streaming the album now; 1:40 into "Shut Up" and I have another new favorite band

Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:33 (five years ago) Permalink

most things are worrisome

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:34 (five years ago) Permalink

And happily this is not!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I guess no surprise that SFJ is writing about them in the New Yorker (piece behind paywall)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I streamed about half the album yesterday and liked it enough that I don't want to risk having my enjoyment ruined by reading whatever SFJ has to say. I will just buy it next week and listen to it for pleasure, like a normal person.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 15:22 (five years ago) Permalink

streaming the album now, damn good

here are a couple hebv tracks, in case anyone's curious. both from a few years back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnXdpbLQBUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzmUzelvmFk

controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I first heard them back in 1980.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

with music this good i really don't care how it's packaged. great to finally be excited about a relatively new band.

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

haha, I like your enthusiasm

I liked the first record quite a bit, hope to see them live some time, they're said to kick ass

niels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 17:58 (three years ago) Permalink

just don't ask me what this french circus bowie thing is, okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGZjBr3I9vs

scott seward, Thursday, 22 October 2015 18:03 (three years ago) Permalink

you have to see the french ziggys in the ziggy clip though...lol...

scott seward, Thursday, 22 October 2015 18:07 (three years ago) Permalink

Irl lol at first french ziggy

niels, Thursday, 22 October 2015 20:25 (three years ago) Permalink

is her boyfriend JOHNNY HOSTILE still around?

i still can't get over a dude in the 2010s rolling around w/that quincy punk name

Comme Si, Kamasi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2015 20:47 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New single, new video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ZpPsaMNMM

Bitch I'm in the 2112 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 15:39 (two years ago) Permalink

I really, really dig this band from top to bottom

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 15:43 (two years ago) Permalink

oof, ol' cheekbones kills me every time. they are kinda the Interpol of my dreams. they should re-do old Interpol songs and make them better.

scott seward, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:49 (two years ago) Permalink

how long till David Fincher casts her in something I wonder

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:59 (two years ago) Permalink

anyway great song

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 16:59 (two years ago) Permalink

they are kinda the Interpol of my dreams. they should re-do old Interpol songs and make them better.

I endorse this idea

you're breaking the NAP (DJP), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 17:26 (two years ago) Permalink

The Kiss of feminist post punk revivalism: a great band let down only by their lack of many good songs.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 18:33 (two years ago) Permalink

holy shit this is incredible.

piscesx, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 22:49 (two years ago) Permalink

Excellent!

seb mooczag (NickB), Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, this is really quite astonishing. The amount of build on it, plus the false ending -> big triumphant (but dark) finish is so, so perfect.

When is the next album out? Their first was so perfect that I didn't think that they were going to be able to keep that mood going, but singles indicate that oh yes they can and they will.

Liebe ist kälter als der Todmorden (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 7 January 2016 08:55 (two years ago) Permalink

The new album is out Jan 22.

Bitch I'm in the 2112 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 7 January 2016 13:11 (two years ago) Permalink

This new song reminds me of The Glee Club, a one-and-done 4AD band from the 90s.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 7 January 2016 15:05 (two years ago) Permalink

Everything I've heard from this album suggests it's going to be way better than the debut.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 January 2016 15:00 (two years ago) Permalink

Here, you’ll get a different side of firting ("I’m not gonna hurt you/ 'Cause I'm flirting with you/ I'm not gonna hurt myself"), the messiness of love ("This is what you get when you mess with love"), lust ("Sleep with me/ And we'd still be friends/ Or I know/ I’ll go insane"), sexual fluidity ("When I take a man/ Or a woman/ They're both the same/ They're both human"), sexual discovery ("When I'm with you/ I want to do/ All the things that/ I’ve never done”), sexual power ("When I take a man/ At my command/ My love will stand/ The test of time"), jealousy/threats ("If you don't love me/ You don't love anybody")

some truly, truly terrible lyrics here

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 18 January 2016 14:30 (two years ago) Permalink

I've listened to the new album a couple of times and it's... just ok. Fairly monochromatic, the title track is an early favorite but there's a number of tracks that make no impact at all.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 02:33 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the first three tracks released (all on Spotify) have pretty thoroughly un-sold me on them.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 02:39 (two years ago) Permalink

I love Adore, but on this new album doesn't really grab me by the jugular like the first one

seb mooczag (NickB), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:02 (two years ago) Permalink

On spotify now btw

seb mooczag (NickB), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:03 (two years ago) Permalink

Just listened, and had the exact same reaction. "Adore" is the clear standout, but it is all a bit...drab?

pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:07 (two years ago) Permalink

That's a shame to hear. A forgettable second album can be a career killer.

Evan, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:10 (two years ago) Permalink

FWIW, the reviews have been strong so far, though the gist of the ones that I skimmed from Pitchfork and AV Club were both "good, but no Silence Yourself."

pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:11 (two years ago) Permalink

Solid reviews are one thing but if there isn't any buzz around it I wonder how long it'll take before everyone's moved on.

Evan, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:18 (two years ago) Permalink

Huh -- I haven't listened closely yet but over the course of a few distracted commuting plays I've been finding it more interesting than the first. I'll have to give it a better listen this weekend but at least with the first one I had to hear it a dozen times or so before I decided it was worth buying, whereas I already know I'll be picking this one up. So much of the buzz last time around seemed to revolve around their live performance -- if they can maintain that intensity and keep touring I think they'll be fine even if the consensus comes out against this album (though I just took a peek at Metacritic and both the critic and reader scores are currently higher for this than Silence Yourself).

early rejecter, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:50 (two years ago) Permalink

OK so the second half does drag a bit. Overall I dig it though.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:04 (two years ago) Permalink

i really don't understand why i don't like this band a lot more than i do

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:05 (two years ago) Permalink

here's a post punk throwback band I love, Oaks

https://modernradio.bandcamp.com/album/animal-life

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:08 (two years ago) Permalink

> the first one I had to hear it a dozen times or so before I decided it was worth buying

I'm impressed, there's no way I'd give a dozen listens to anything I was on the fence about. Unless it was more of a case of something in the back of your head kept pulling you back, but even then... kudos for your perseverance. I'm sure I've missed out on things that simply required more time.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:38 (two years ago) Permalink

I think the first album is much more immediate than the second, largely because the drums feel muffled to me on the second album.

its subtle brume (DJP), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 19:39 (two years ago) Permalink

> I'm impressed, there's no way I'd give a dozen listens to anything I was on the fence about.

Generally I wouldn't either but I loooved the 1st single and all signs pointed to it being something I should like. Plus most of my listening time these days is during my relatively long commute or in the office where I'm trying to get reading or work done at the same time, so I can easily play a new album a dozen times over the course of three or four days and still not have a great sense of it. Probably took me close to that many plays to realize I loved the last New Order album which I thought was terrible during the first listen.

You may be right that you've missed out on things that required more time, but I've probably missed out on just as much by giving things more time than they deserve when I could've been trying something else.

early rejecter, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 20:10 (two years ago) Permalink

i really don't understand why i don't like this band a lot more than i do

Same. As my friend quipped when I took him to see the band a few years back, "I've shopped in that used record bin already."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 20:24 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Never heard the band before but I checked out the new album on Spotify and it's great!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 17 March 2016 03:44 (two years ago) Permalink

I was ambivalent at first, but it finally clicked with me. "Adore" is still the standout, but song for song, I probably like this just as much as I liked the debut.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2016 03:50 (two years ago) Permalink

I still like the debut more but this is a fun album.

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 17 March 2016 14:18 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Saw them last night. Furious energy, charismatic and the guitarist makes beautiful Belew noises.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 16:45 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

holy shit the performance tonight at Glastonbury was something else, just *shockingly* good.

it'll be up here at some point http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ewcj5v/videos/p03ybmmv

piscesx, Saturday, 25 June 2016 00:14 (two years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KMLyQjI5mI

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 22:58 (two years ago) Permalink

disgusting band

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Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Thursday, 8 September 2016 11:41 (two years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

she has too many h's in her name

j., Wednesday, 4 January 2017 20:04 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

really liking the kite base album (ayse hassan's other band). kind of a cross between young marble gientsy sparseness and an update of the sort of thing too pure were putting out 20 years ago (e.g. laika, early peej)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESnYCvwBxUk

del esdichado (NickB), Friday, 26 May 2017 12:46 (one year ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

more from ayse hassan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkWNyDFqrro&feature=youtu.be

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Suddenly struggling to hear "Adore" without imagining Morrissey singing it.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:45 (six days ago) Permalink

Man, this band dropped off my radar really quickly. Dug the first album, ditched the second, and I never had that itch in the back of my head making me play their stuff.

I'm hoping a third album produces something different.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:06 (six days ago) Permalink

Goat Girl have the missing ineffable thing that kept this band from sticking for me.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 6 December 2018 19:29 (six days ago) Permalink


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