hm, I think anything good around that time had already existed for a while (late 80s/early 90s alt/indie/college rock could be great), but any bands that actually owed their existence or sound to Grunge, or to the great 90s punk crossover, were pretty much universally awful. and the more quality acts on the margins that maybe enjoyed a hit were more likely coming from some other indie scene and likely would have had a small following anyways. just trying to think of anything good Nirvana or PJ did for music. their sonic influence was among some of the worst ever
― Chris S, Friday, 1 June 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
the Nirvana meme is wrong because there was plenty of great pop and R&B and hip-hop on the charts, none of which had fuck-all to do with hair metal.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
so what exactly did they save us from?
Jesus Jones
― Snowqueen's Icedragon (crüt), Friday, 1 June 2012 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, hip hop, R&B, rave, etc were the real stories of the 90s imo
― Chris S, Friday, 1 June 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
god guys do we have to talk about the validity of the nirvana narrative even on a thread about the year 2000?
― some dude, Friday, 1 June 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
well of course: we thought in 2000 that our computers would explode and leave us with our old Firehouse tapes.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 June 2012 02:09 (eleven years ago) link
xp well I see these lists and I guess I blame the paradigm/format that unleashed all this stuff on us on the Nirvana narrative
― Chris S, Friday, 1 June 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link
Way tempted to do a Change vs. Judith poll
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 2 June 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
Judging by these polls, I think the Modern Rock #1 shit parade started in '97
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
LimbsKing, may I suggest a short breather after the 2000 poll, maybe punctuated by something like a "worst Modern Rock #1 to get 0 votes in any of these polls" type poll?
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know if ILX Blink 182 love is funny or endearing in a "he ain't heavy, he's my brother" sort of way
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
Same goes with Green Day. They had some good songs on Dookie and a couple from another early album but that's about it
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
I actually really like the parent album for the Green Day single here, but that's one of the weaker songs on it. Fuel wins this one, then, by default.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You
still love this song. every time i hear it (which is basically like never) i am made happy.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
DESTROY THEM ALL.
― Matt M., Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:42 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
100% otm
― kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
It felt a little sad to vote for Fuel.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 June 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link
Wow Otherside is so much better than that overwrought Shimmer rewrite
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link
(hey everybody I just got out of work and here's some opinions 4 u!!!)
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to "Otherside" in the past week because of this poll and I can't even remember how it goes.
(I'm not really expressing great passion about "Hemorrhage", to be clear.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link
how long how long must I slide
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link
separate my thiiiiiighsfor so longi do believe it's haaaaaairduh duh duh udh duh duh duh frazzle
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:12 (eleven years ago) link
<3 that snog
:D
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link
I like Blood Sugar Sex Magik if it makes things any better?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe I just have a block with processing the RHCP as gothy mopers?
It's kind of funny that everyone who voted for Fuel seemed to do it as a 'by default' sort of deal. Maybe I should have just abstained.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:25 (eleven years ago) link
I actually looked up an interview with Blink 182 to see if they pronounce "things" like that when they talk.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link
(They do.)
it's cool sund4r. The whole Californication album has always seemed to me like RHCP's attempt to write a whole album's worth of songs like Soul to Squeeze, which is my favorite song of theirs. I don't think they get as horrifically bland as everyone here is implying until By the Way
I also think ILX underrates the singles from One Hot Minute and am tempted to check if that album is on Spotify.
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:31 (eleven years ago) link
californication's a good record. but i've always hated funk RHCP.
― of family bonds and individual triumph. Narrated by Tim Allen, (zachlyon), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:36 (eleven years ago) link
I actually feel a little bad that all I've done here is post dismissive opinions without thinking critically about anything. Ten years ago, I hated it when people in their 30s did that about stuff I liked. So it's more interesting to hear about why people like these songs. I think I'd love to hear a defence of "Kryptonite".
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 June 2012 06:48 (eleven years ago) link
lol not touching that one. i will say this:
3 Doors Down now does music for Army commercials they play before movie previews.― LimbsKing, Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:06 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― LimbsKing, Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:06 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i do actually think 3DD's recent context as spokesband for the Army works really well for "Not My Time"
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 07:16 (eleven years ago) link
― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, June 3, 2012 1:24 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
calling something a rewrite because it's the same band is lame, they don't really sound alike at all.
― kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Sunday, 3 June 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
"Aeroplane" is my favorite of their "fast" ones.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah "Aeroplane" is secretly one of their best post-BSSM singles. "Warped" isn't bad too. it's just "My Friends" (and probably the rest of the album) that gives that era of the band such a stench.
― kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Sunday, 3 June 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link
that prechorus "too far away" is almost a direct quote from the chorus in Shimmer("too far away/for me to hold"); not the same melody, but def the same accents...which is not the same thing as a 're-write', but is some pretty bald recyclage. Of course it could also be intentionally self-referential (the immediately preceding lyrics are "don't you remember anything I said when I said") Still: lame.
That said, re-listening to this song now, it is a bit better than I remember, though I still like "Otherside" more.
Also I listened to "Parallel Universe", the only song from the first four on Californication that I didn't remember, and it was dope. That album might've aged better than I even thought.
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
"Aeroplane" is the worst fucking song, come on now
― that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
looking at the one hot minute tracklisting i seem to have excised most of it from my memory. 'aeroplane' is alright, 'my friends' is p dire, i vaguely remember 'walkabout' being terrible, and hey 'pea' is um some kind of charming. the rest, i've got nothing.
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
that prechorus "too far away" is almost a direct quote from the chorus in Shimmer("too far away/for me to hold");
To be fair, 1) he's saying "Don't fall away" and 2) the refrain's lyric is lifted straight from Bernie Taupin, so if you want to go after them for laziness, there's a pretty strong angle right there.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
lol my mistake.
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 3 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
you're the worst fucking song, come on now
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
alfred likes pleasure spiked with pain
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 June 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 4 June 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
Daddy needs his medicine.
― Matt M., Monday, 4 June 2012 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
Green Day got their wish.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Monday, 4 June 2012 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
― kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
at least theres no godsmack.
― billstevejim, Monday, 4 June 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link