michael pisaro, wandelweiser, etc.

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http://michaelpisaro.blogspot.com/

Haven't read much of anything re: Michael Pisaro/Wandelweiser on ILM. Conversely, there is substantial dialog about this music on the I HATE music forum.

July Mountain drew me in initially and still stands as a favorite, though I haven't heard much of his earlier material, or any of the Wandelweiser recordings. His latest, Fields Have Ears (6), gets a lot of play on the stereo. It's texturally-rich and enveloping. The pieces are typically slow-moving, some near-static, and they often feature well-recorded, densely layered concrete sounds. Tonal elements are generated (sparingly) from piano, electric guitar, clarinet, sine waves, etc. Some interesting graphic scores and various bits of contextual information for the pieces exist online. There's a definite (plain, conceptual) aesthetic about the music that seems to separate it from more stylized or tonally-overt ambient music.. I wonder if that aesthetic prevents it from circulating to a more general audience, does it appear too dry/academic -- is there interest for this type of "sound art" outside a realm of more 'serious' listeners?

Lowell N. Behold'n, Monday, 21 May 2012 01:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Pisaro is a genius, he made me feel things i never felt before listening to music. Incredible stuff. My favorite pieces are "asleep, street, pipes, tones" & "Close Constellations And A Drum On The Ground". These are total masterpieces. The "hearing metal" series is great, as is the disc with taku sugimoto. I have only heard it once but the "harmony series" seems particularly great.
"field have ears (6)" is pretty different from his previous stuff. It seems 'faster' to me than his other pieces. Still it's great, one of the best thing this year.

" is there interest for this type of "sound art" outside a realm of more 'serious' listeners?"

(almost) all i listen to is gangsta rap, so i guess there is.

the question that interests me is : would such incredible music exists without the dry/academic concepts ?

sisilafami, Monday, 21 May 2012 11:09 (six years ago) Permalink

asleep, street, pipes, tones, despite its cohesion and consistency, feels sort of disparately 'cut-and-pasted' to me, how it's put together. I've been told that live versions of the piece are strong/loud/powerful though. Possibly it's the slow-moving quality of it that loses me, but I've never been able to fully engage w/it. "Fields 6" really is sort of "faster," there's not much space (silence) to breathe as in other Pisaro pieces. It feels like the most densely-layered of his work that I've listened to. Haven't had luck w/the ricefall/'wave and waves'/hearing metal series(es) yet, a lot of it feels too cold/monochrome, to be general.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i think "asleep, street, pipes, tones" (and much of pisaro's music) has to be listened at high volume.

sisilafami, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:42 (six years ago) Permalink

july mountain works well at a low-moderate volume, where you're not focusing on it early on, and it transforms gradually from background to the foreground over its 20 minute duration. so, there

Lowell N. Behold'n, Monday, 21 May 2012 17:10 (six years ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/LpJG3sw5HSA

Jürg Frey: Paysage pour Gustave Roud

loosely associated, affecting piece of music.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

beautiful :')

sisilafami, Monday, 21 May 2012 20:49 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

he did it again

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rXJu2sLMvXY/T-TC8o83LAI/AAAAAAAAD5E/cQyNPZIcK1I/s1600/20120501144435.jpg
Michael Pisaro/Toshiya Tsunoda - crosshatches

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sisilafami, Saturday, 30 June 2012 16:46 (six years ago) Permalink

thread feels unnecessary, as there's no discussion here.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 30 June 2012 21:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I was good at starting unneccesary threads like this that had no discussion.

http://johnsonsrambler.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/line-up-announced-for-music-wed-like-to-hear-2012/

There are a few recitals in London, and some Pisaro will be played - should go to all, so I'll report back.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyone go to the Wadelweiser fest in London at the ICA last winter?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:20 (six years ago) Permalink

is there interest for this type of "sound art" outside a realm of more 'serious' listeners?

Too many quotes and scare here.

All of this seems an extension of Cage, Lou Harrison etc. I don't think its that taxing from a conceptual viewpoint. Not very academic (Cage was an academic type, or he didn't set himself out as that in the way he appeared), quite sraightforward once you get hold of it and a specific take on a set of ideas that have been around for at least 40 years.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:35 (six years ago) Permalink

wasn't an academic type -- sheesh I am adding a lot of posts to this thread.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 July 2012 09:49 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://vimeo.com/39159300

somebody put up july mountain, audio quality is decent. dunno bout the video

Lowell N. Behold'n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:33 (six years ago) Permalink

I took a class with Michael Pisaro. It was great, but I had to drop it because I was working on my thesis film and didn't have enough time. Wish I;d have stuck with it =(

gygax! II: pornograffitti (admrl), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 23:47 (six years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

the punishment of the tribe by its elders is real varied, dynamic. been getting a lot of play out of it.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:03 (five years ago) Permalink

What did you think of Tombstones?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2013 00:20 (five years ago) Permalink

i couldn't get into it, but i like the track "silent cloud," that piano. what do you think of it?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 1 February 2013 00:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Just started listening but had to stop. I think the idea is really interesting and I'll see how it works out tomorrow.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2013 00:36 (five years ago) Permalink

tombstones is boring, punishment is great.

sisilafami, Friday, 1 February 2013 18:56 (five years ago) Permalink

'boring' is a weird word to apply to Pisaro.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2013 19:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i know what you mean, but to me with this kind of music there's a thin line between a masterpiece & a badly executed composition that ends up being dull.

sisilafami, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

the hearing metal and transparent city pieces are interesting, but I couldn't really get into them. I thought 'Close Constellations and a Drum on the Ground' and 'Asleep, Street, Pipe, Tones' were both more complex and more interesting.

My favorite of his are the original Fields Have Ears and Fields Have Ears(6). July Mountain is great, too, but I wish it were longer.

what do people think of Crosshatches? I haven't hear it yet, and don't know anything about Toshiya Tsunoda

Dan S, Friday, 1 February 2013 23:03 (five years ago) Permalink

here is something on Tsunoda

xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2013 23:39 (five years ago) Permalink

'Close Constellations and a Drum on the Ground' and 'Asleep, Street, Pipe, Tones' are def my fav. Crosshatches is outstanding as well

sisilafami, Saturday, 2 February 2013 00:02 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.freejazzblog.org/2013/02/various-artists-wandelweiser-und-so.html

enjoying this comp a lot so far. i hadn't known anything about the wandelweiser people before, but they seem to be hitting a sweet spot somewhere between the AMMish stuff, the quieter free improv, and the more droney digitally processed stuff (i'm reminded of the textures on a recent stephan mathieu record) i've been digging in the last few years.

j., Tuesday, 5 February 2013 08:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Even AMM had bits and pieces of jazz at times (via Prevost, although I'd need to check its been a while). This is more about ironing everything out, including the New York school (it could be too muscular at times, after all they liked Webern). Certainly from what I'm reading Pisaro has taken the politics of someone like Christian Wolff and followed up on the implications peformance-wise: allowance for improvisation but that which comes from amateur practice, that use of community space (church halls) in performance, a gap between Trots and anarchos.

That Tsunoda record has been running though my mind, and if you think of Steven Beresford as David Tudor without any chops (its absence is the main thing if you like) then really this is what we are getting with Erstwhile a lot of the time. The sophistication is in the electronics w/no indoctrination into improv's mannerisms.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink

ah, 'tombstones' is lovely. refreshing.

j., Tuesday, 12 February 2013 03:40 (five years ago) Permalink

"That Tsunoda record has been running though my mind, and if you think of Steven Beresford as David Tudor without any chops (its absence is the main thing if you like) then really this is what we are getting with Erstwhile a lot of the time. The sophistication is in the electronics w/no indoctrination into improv's mannerisms."

can you elaborate on this if possible? the Beresford reference is what confuses me the most.

jon abbey, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Tsunoda is incredible, very glad I finally figured out a way to get him on Erstwhile (and now we have a second project in the works, a duo with Jason Lescalleet, although it probably won't be out for a few years). the best musical intro for him is Scenery of Decalcomania, fantastic record.

also there are a few ErstWords pieces people here might be interested in if they haven't already seen them:

http://erstwords.blogspot.com/2009/09/wandelweiser.html (Michael Pisaro on the history of Wandelweiser)

http://erstwords.blogspot.com/2009/07/field-recording-and-experimental-music.html (Tsunoda on his own work)

jon abbey, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Tsunoda is doing a grab and throw sounds around like Beresford seems to do in his improv sets w/that sense of the random. The results as heard are miles apart.

Hard to tell bcz I'm unlikely to see Tsunoda do a show in London.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 February 2013 11:17 (five years ago) Permalink

finally got my hands on crosshatches. fantastic; immediately put it on again when the second disc finished.

trying to parse out what's 'natural' or 'electronic' is a fun little game to play.

original bgm, Friday, 22 February 2013 05:18 (five years ago) Permalink

glad you guys are enjoying crosshatches! for fans of that one, Tsunoda just self-released two solo double CDs that are interesting followups, The Temple Recording and O Kokos Tis Anixis (Grains of Spring. I am still processing them myself (one listen through, around 3 1/2 hours of material total), but Pisaro was raving about his first listen/s to The Temple Recording on FB earlier today:

"Listening to the mind-bending and ear-stretching 'stereophony' of Toshiya Tsunoda's wonderful "The Temple Recording." The phase effects and stretched space of the recording technique are audible. They give you the feeling of hearing _around_ and _through_ things instead of just taking them in."

jon abbey, Friday, 22 February 2013 21:48 (five years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

i like how in a different context this would be 'soothing nature sounds' (well kinda), $3.99 at target

http://www.diafani.de/?product=seascapes

but here it's like fuck u i'm a composer this is my field recording

j., Thursday, 25 July 2013 06:23 (five years ago) Permalink

feelin those seascapes

i seriously don't get why cds of basically different configurations of white noise aren't more popular

j., Friday, 26 July 2013 02:37 (five years ago) Permalink

finally got my hands on crosshatches. fantastic; immediately put it on again when the second disc finished.

trying to parse out what's 'natural' or 'electronic' is a fun little game to play.

― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N)

thrilling sine waves

j., Thursday, 1 August 2013 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

wow, i can feel the bassy one even on my shitty ipod speaker (ok, it's not that shitty but still). it must be incredible on a real system.

j., Thursday, 1 August 2013 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

http://olewnick.blogspot.com/2013/08/this-place-is-love.html?m=1

a decent summation of this recording... can't say it's a pleasure listen, but it certainly has an unusual definition, dimensions difficult to measure.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 5 August 2013 08:04 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.thewatchfulear.com/?p=8381

One of what I think totals ten recent releases by the German composer Eva-Maria Houben, Orgelbuch is the one amongst them not released on her own new Diafani label, appearing instead at the end of last year on Wandelweiser. Orgelbuch is an intriguing release. For the composition of the work Houben has prescribed three sets of fourteen manual and/or pedal stops for the pipe organ, which she plays here herself. There are fourteen bicinia, trios and quatuors here. Not being an expert on matters of the church organ, I am not sure how much these settings completely prescribe the music heard here, but I am assuming, from what my ears are telling me, that a bicinium involves just two notes, a trio three, and a quatuor, four, though it would appear that one note can be played in different octaves. The various pieces then selected for this release utilise these simple raw materials to form short works that have something of a rigorous minimalism about them- shortish pitches each of roughly the same length within each piece placed alongside one another, almost like the simple, stark modernism of early Dutch typography, drawing beauty from the juxtaposition of simple elements arranged in near-rhythmic patterns and the negative spaces between them.

So the fourteen pieces chosen here from the possible forty-two are each quite different, each similar, but also containing its own individuality. The semi-mathematical constraints placed upon the compositions then force the music into a strange, almost inhuman space. There are repeating forms in each of the works, pitches standing alone, sometimes undercut by another, sometimes them both sounding together, but never more than four notes and often, as with the five bicinia here, just two notes, sometimes sitting neatly adjacent to one another, sometimes careering off of each other at angles. There is a clinical feel to the album, a kind of stark inevitability to the music, that once a piece begins, and its few elements are clear, then there is nowhere else for the music to go apart from rotate slowly, so letting the various elements collide, combine and separate again. In places the album feels like systems music, and yet, beyond the restrictions placed upon the number of stops to be used, the placement of notes has been freely composed by Houben. As Webern and companions restricted themselves through serialism, so Houben attempts something similar, even more restrictive here, and so that the resulting music has a kind of haunting beauty to it, an almost alien simplicity around how the soft, warm notes reflect of one another. Strange, almost unsettling music then, but at the same time oddly enchanting and thoroughly beautiful. Nine more discs to go…

j., Thursday, 15 August 2013 15:37 (five years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://www.newmusicbox.org/articles/faithfully-re-presenting-the-outside-world/

on pisaro's 'transparent city' and toshiya tsunoda's 'grains of spring' (which is neat)

j., Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

https://soundcloud.com/peckinpahtrio/j-rg-frey-stranger-with-melody

been getting play out of this frey piece, as well as the Dedalus disk on Potlach. Good stuff

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 20 October 2013 01:06 (five years ago) Permalink

we have a new Gravity Wave coming in a few weeks, 'Closed Categories in Cartesian Worlds'. for bowed crotales (Greg Stuart) and sine waves (Michael P). it is mind-warping like nothing I've ever heard before, along the lines of Lucier and Amacher but to my ears much more powerful/successful.

so, yeah, I'm into it. :)

jon abbey, Sunday, 27 October 2013 08:11 (five years ago) Permalink

!!!

original bgm, Monday, 28 October 2013 05:15 (five years ago) Permalink

there's an excerpt of it up on the GW site now:

http://michaelpisaro.blogspot.com/2013/10/gw-010-excerpt-and-pre-order.html

jon abbey, Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

we have a new Gravity Wave coming in a few weeks, 'Closed Categories in Cartesian Worlds'. for bowed crotales (Greg Stuart) and sine waves (Michael P). it is mind-warping like nothing I've ever heard before, along the lines of Lucier and Amacher but to my ears much more powerful/successful.

so, yeah, I'm into it. :)

― jon abbey, Sunday, October 27, 2013 8:11 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I certainly say more powerful or successful than those two, but I would definitely agree very impressive in a way I rarely get to hear & that he's understood exactly why the pieces of those two composers work as music and not just science demonstrations

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:44 (five years ago) Permalink

interesting, Milton, was waiting for your feedback.

so to go off topic slightly, which recordings along these very general lines by Lucier and/or Amacher would you most highly recommend? I'm a big fan of the first track on the first Amacher Tzadik disc, but the rest of the two discs never did much for me, and I've never connected with almost any of Lucier's sine wave work, it always feels to me like it's sine waves plus something and I never hear the connection/interaction like I do here with Greg's crotales. maybe it's an issue with the way the Lovely discs are produced/recorded/performed/mastered/something, as I do like the double CD on Antiopic with Charles Curtis quite a bit.

jon abbey, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 23:26 (five years ago) Permalink

ha ha meant to say certainly wouldn't say. but I do see why you'd use the word 'powerful' -- those crotales have a lot more energy to them than your typical sinewave + single xylophone note setup

I'm positive you've heard the 2CD edition of 'Still And Moving Lines Of Silence In Families Of Hyperbolas' -- it connects for me. The suite for piano 'Still Lives' is also probably my favorite sine wave piece of his, the generators are in slow but constant motion and so as the piano intersects them, you get not just the phenomena but these baffling but inevitable little tunes, it's a beautiful way to write a piece.

good recordings of Amacher barely exist. the Tzadik CDs are more just the libraries / ingredients and don't have much with how she'd mix them together live, where it was basically one of the most powerful / unprecedented sounds anyone had ever heard. Naut Humon's Recombinant has a 12 channel 90 minute set archived that is pretty much the best document apart from odd room recordings like 'Music Gallery Live 1982'.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

thanks, Milton! maybe I'll revisit 'Still and Moving Lines…', and maybe sometime I'll be able to hear that Amacher recording as she intended...

jon abbey, Thursday, 12 December 2013 00:14 (five years ago) Permalink

I think the first disc is a straight field recording?

the way each disc is a really well done ver of diff variations of his style reminds me of pan sonic's kesto. still soaking it all in but this is really top-notch stuff.

original bgm, Saturday, 25 October 2014 16:46 (four years ago) Permalink

huh maybe i was listening to #2, i only have 1 + 2 right now i think and thought i had sorted out which was which

the progression of it is weird. or i dunno the… demand on / enticement of yr attention. it has many features that could be absorbing elsewhere, maybe are here, but… aren't. the sounds are there. there's not the blanketing-environment effect that's all too easy to shoot for in a droney-soundey- recording-piece, aural comfort.

j., Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:19 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, I really like that about it actually. the sounds being used are pleasant and soothing and it all sorta works in an ambient bg listening mode... but the level of detail in composition, density, and production all really reward attentive listening.

third disc is super cool btw, a lotta variety.

original bgm, Saturday, 25 October 2014 18:13 (four years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

the album is really good. Pisaro also has notes in the sleeve for Lost Daylight, an excellent recording of Terry Jennings pieces played by John Tilbury.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 22 November 2014 17:52 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, i listened to it (the crane 2-disc) this morning, would be good for ambient hedz i think; there were some definitely tilburyish moments

j., Saturday, 22 November 2014 20:25 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah does there have to be so much ear-piercing

j., Saturday, 22 November 2014 23:32 (four years ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/AtKajbX5ZL4

taylan susam – tombeau (2014)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 15:51 (four years ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/sQHPyMm5ldY

Morton Feldman 'Two Pianos' -- played by John Tilbury and Philip Thomas, June 2014

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 23:19 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

http://ihatemusic.noquam.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9621

this one's way weird and good. a lot of piano, heavy atmosphere and crisp production.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 30 January 2015 19:57 (three years ago) Permalink

re: the piano on Schwarze Riesenfalter.. i'm catching vibes of Frederic Rzewski, Erik Satie, a bit of Feldman, and hints of George Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue." Maybe that's a stretch.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 2 February 2015 22:36 (three years ago) Permalink

It took a while but Schwarze Riesenfalter really grew on me over the past week. The other two Erstwhile releases were much more immediate, particularly the La Casa/Unami. And are we using this thread to talk about modern classical as well as other electroacoustic/eai associated with the scene? Didn't even realize this thread existed (though, I'm still a fairly new user).

I was really surprised by the new Glistening Examples release with Meyers & Lescalleet. I think Lescalleet's TIWID series find him honing his craft but at the same time, it all sounds very similar and I find myself getting a bit tired of them rather quickly. I still enjoy them whenever I put them on though. As of right now, I'm most excited to hear the Rie Nakajima LP on Consumer Waste. Waiting for copies to show up at Winds Measure though since I live in the states.

misterjoshua, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 01:16 (three years ago) Permalink

I supposed anything goes, really. I started posting things Tilbury, or Pisaro-related in this thread, and these are still more sort of quiet musics. There's an Erstwhile thread, but I figured since Pisaro performs on the latest one, then why not. I'm not sure I'd call what Lambkin or Pisaro are doing "EAI," necessarily. their processes are not divulged, but the results certainly do not sound improvised.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 16:21 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh I wasn't implying that the record was EAI by any means, was just wondering if we were also talking about that stuff here. Didn't know there was an Erstwhile thread though either.

Have you heard the self-titled Jurg Frey album released on Musiques Suisses from last year? It's phenomenal. I tend to think Frey is hit or miss-in the past couple years I liked Pianist, Alone and Dedalus but didn't like II and Cantor Quartets-but this new one is really in my wheelhouse. The whole record's relatively melodic and the final track especially is a beauty.

misterjoshua, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:17 (three years ago) Permalink

I've been 'seeking for it with no results.. The samples on the page are pretty nice, it's a pricey item though.

http://youtu.be/LpJG3sw5HSA

Jürg Frey: Paysage pour Gustave Roud

it's closer to sounding like this piece than most the Frey that I've heard.. I really like his track on the Dedalus (Potlatch) disk, though.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 20:47 (three years ago) Permalink

Lovely vid. It reminds that I should check out more of Stefan Thut's works. His Two Strings And Boxes album with Johnny Chang a couple years ago surprised me. Seems like it's overlooked from what I've seen.

I can share the Frey album with you if you're interested, not a big deal.

misterjoshua, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 23:36 (three years ago) Permalink

This might be one of the few times I've been compelled to shell out upwards of $40 for a cd.. listening to the Frey now, a second time through. Very sublime, the melodic activity is most welcome.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 04:28 (three years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

https://youtu.be/oJPUjqQuYH8

you can cop the musiques suisses disk thru Erstdist now, though it's gonna be difficult to choose between it and this new recording on AT..

surprised there's little to no discussion of Frey on ILM. it's a shame

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 15:48 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.wandelweiser.de/_e-w-records/_ewr-catalogue/ewr1501.html

on a side note, this is one of the nicest things i've heard in a while... the audio sample is a good representation. it actually feels like the barometric pressure drops in the room, when i put this cd on.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 17:44 (three years ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/YUwq63OIPtk

one of the fine cuts from lost daylight.. the original recording doesn't contain any of these incidental sounds (birds chirping etc.)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:05 (three years ago) Permalink

The Fraufraulein album on Another Timbre is one of my favorites this year.

ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, 26 May 2015 23:15 (three years ago) Permalink

likewise! i had just put it on actually... funny bit of synchronicity there. Had a near-transcendent experience listening to it one night, about a month back. It's very painting-like, rife with imagery.

Got a bit carried away, posting here today, but I had to chime in as it's a definite favorite. The AT youtube excerpt is not a very good indication of the depth of it.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 00:33 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm sorta tiring of Another Timbre's uniform packaging, even though it's a clean look. It recalls the Tzadik series from the 90s, which was a bit of a repellent.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 27 May 2015 00:36 (three years ago) Permalink

SImon Reynell (Another Timbre guy) has said countless times that he doesn't care at all about packaging (paraphrasing).

I am out of those Frey Musiques Suisses discs again at ErstDist, but will try to get another batch.

jon abbey, Sunday, 31 May 2015 21:38 (three years ago) Permalink

the actual cover images are nice.. it's the general layout that almost projects a same-y ness on the music, not just the packaging. of course it's a terrible generalisation, and i don't own many AT releases. i completely forgot that "Lost Daylight" is on AT, so maybe the uniform gatefold is a good thing.. i suppose i just miss jewel cases.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 1 June 2015 01:31 (three years ago) Permalink

Picked up the Crane double cd the other day (after sbody mentioned it on another ilx thread), then promptly ordered the Wandelweiser box.
This stuff really scratches an itch for an old David Sylvian, Morton Feldman junkie. So good.

mr.raffles, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 14:33 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://youtu.be/RuZwzoj85C0

Cellist Oliver Coates performs 'Raimondas Rumsas' by Laurence Crane

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:36 (three years ago) Permalink

oh man that's incredible.
super excited for the new AT releases. the Jurg Frey sounds like it's gonna be one of his best and the Saunders should be good too (performed by Apartment House who did the Laurence Crane album).

misterjoshua, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:59 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.anothertimbre.com/freygrizzana.html

interesting interview w/Frey, fairly recent. haven't really got my head around Grizzana yet.. it's large and varied. not as immediately "lush" as the Musiques Suisses album.

http://www.bangthebore.org/archives/5982

also found this interesting, interview w/Joe Panzner. just published yesterday. recently put on dystonia duos, it's great.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 1 August 2015 16:01 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, i listened to it (the crane 2-disc) this morning, would be good for ambient hedz i think; there were some definitely tilburyish moments

― j., Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:25 PM (8 months ago)

it reminds me of the Colleen album Les Ondes Silencieuses.. seems like the Crane double album would appeal to people that are into Rachel's, A Winged Victory for the Sullen, Stars of the Lid.. stuff like that. Though maybe not as superficially lush or expressive, the Crane stuff feels more timeless and interesting.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 1 August 2015 16:32 (three years ago) Permalink

lol i just added immortal's 'pure holocaust' and 'sons of northern darkness' to my ipod and it mixed up their artwork with the cover of 'wandelweiser und so weiter'

j., Sunday, 9 August 2015 16:59 (three years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

https://youtu.be/B6xEcdSpNjc

Joseph Kudirka - Beauty and Industry -- sort of a Feldman vibe, the intermittent percussion has a really nice quality.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 15 November 2015 16:40 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

re joseph kudirka :
'21st century music' is gorgeous

ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 23:57 (two years ago) Permalink

really dig the 'wyoming snow' versions... passed on the Kudirka album for circles and landscapes by Jurg Frey, it's perfect.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 31 December 2015 05:07 (two years ago) Permalink

new jurg frey on wandelweiser "string quartet no 3 / unhorbare zeit" is his best imo.

ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, 31 December 2015 12:34 (two years ago) Permalink

i have to spend some time with the wandelweiser release. it's tough keeping up with, or maintaining interest in all of his recent output, a lot of it string-based music.. with Grizzana (most visible/accessible) and other small label releases which are harder to track down. Circles and Landscapes has a really nice tone about it.. i do like philip thomas' (piano) playing.

just recently heard this joseph clayton mills piece, the music is great. too bad it's such a limited pressing (100)

http://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com/post/126440900914/joseph-clayton-millssifr-suppedaneum

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 31 December 2015 20:19 (two years ago) Permalink

yeah i immediately bought the two jc mills releases. wonderful stuff.

ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, 31 December 2015 21:06 (two years ago) Permalink

http://www.anothertimbre.com/kudirkascores.html

some insight into 'Beauty and Industry' (Kudirka)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 3 January 2016 01:11 (two years ago) Permalink

Another Timbre has been on fire lately.

In addition to the Frey and Kudirka, the Klaus Filip & Leonell Kaplan is super great. On a completely different tip.

mr.raffles, Sunday, 3 January 2016 03:50 (two years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

This doesn't seem to happen too frequently, but... Another Timbre-related performance
in Boston coming up. Piece by Magnus Granberg.
Not missing this.

https://www.facebook.com/events/1027955217270591/

mr.raffles, Monday, 25 January 2016 06:16 (two years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
three months pass...

new Pisaro 3XCD of piano music (played by Reinier van Houdt) on Erstwhile Records... part of it reminded me of Loren Connors, some Feldman, a couple instances of Pisaro revisited, other tracks difficult to describe. melancholy vibes throughout, there are subtle 'additional' sounds and effects woven into some of the tracks, barely noticeable

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:14 (two years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

yes, it is.

ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:49 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

120 pieces must be a very different thing to hear live, on any recording everything you listen to pretty much has an implicit 'everything i want whenever i want it' rider attached but the pauses in the tones would make that thought hard to entertain

j., Saturday, 6 October 2018 03:48 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

still fond of 'l'ame est sans retenue' lately

https://www.toneglow.net/reviews/2017/11/16/jurg-frey-lame-est-sans-retenue-i

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 05:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm sure you have seen it but just in case not, Yuko wrote about the series also, before she ended up starting elsewhere and putting out #2.

http://surround.noquam.com/borders-disappear/

jon abbey, Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

no! great pictures!!

j., Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:17 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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