killer mike raps el-p produces "R.A.P. Music"

hearing killer mike say 'we here to eat the rich' is like seeing spider man use heat vision

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:56 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still v proud of this psot

imago, try labor days a bit more as it actually reminds me of your posting style

― go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:22 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol @ this

there's also a package where you get to buy the album remixed out of cat sounds for 40k; that one comes with a disclaimer saying they have the right to just take your cash and not do it.

― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, September 15, 2014 7:47 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw (since this appears to be the thread where we talk about RtJ), somebody started a kickstarter that is now 2/3 of the way to paying for "meow the jewels"

I'm glad all that money saved from not having to buy albums anymore is going to good use

El is donating his portion though

Mentioned this on Twitter yesterday but how do these dudes get a free pass for "fuckboy"? Pretty clearly a homophobic term, they use it all the time, still get glittering press in Pitchfork etc. I know it's an issue in rap in general but seems especially glaring for RTJ who seem to have little to no audience outside the indie market.

didn't realize "fuckboy" was homophobic tbqh

i think a lot of people don't

yeah i see ~social justice~ people use it all the time in the #misandry vein

as far as i know, there's no evidence that fuckboy is homophobic beyond "it sounds homophobic"

It's a ghey area

I honestly was super stoked to hear "fuckboy" on RTJ because years ago there were a couple of loud drunken rednecks who lived a couple houses down from my wife's mother's place and they would be up late and yelling the word "fuck" all the time, and she started referring to them as "the fuckboys" and I like to think my 60 something small town mother-in-law was some sort of rap slang pioneer.

i thought it was prounced like fart-boys

pronounced

i wondering the same thing tbh, and i'm p sure it's at least historically homophobic (like 'punk') even though it seems now to just be generally derogatory (at least if urban dictionary is to believed, ~which it totally is~)

It's hard for me not to read it as a way to use homophobic language but with plausible deniability. There might not be specific evidence but it's not just they way it sounds, it's the way it's used and the context it's used in. But one good way to find out would be to actually ask El-P and Killer Mike about it instead of just not talking about it at all.

i mean, dudes also say things like "you punks is pussy proverbial pansy panty-holders" and "you can all run naked backwards through a field of dicks." They're about alpha male hardman shit and emasculating their foes in their art, which is a tradition that goes back to 35 years of recorded rap ("he's a fairy, I do suppose, flyin through the air in pantyhose") and beyond.

whoa i totally didn't know that

http://www.teabreakfast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/kermit-tea.jpg

they should build up not tear down

really wish rappers had kept going in on Superman

my take is, given that the entire genre of macho hardman battle-rap is vulnerable to these critiques, I'll take the rappers who use 'plausibly deniable' homophobic language, & do so in a creative way, over the ones who are about telling people to eat a bag of dicks on every other track

... & yes, I acknowledge my complicity in the societal power structures that create a desire for imaginary rap hardmen v_v;

dudes also say things like "you punks is pussy proverbial pansy panty-holders"

this sort of makes me want to do a Fake El-P thread but it would probably stop being funny half a joke in

it would be hysterical for longer than that but would still inevitably got bogged down in both people being like "lol omg def jux/backpacker shit was SOOO STUPID HAHA" and then former or current fans of that shit saying that nobody got it/gets it

what do you guys think of the new single tho

Its good there all good imma def jux dickrider

*duckrider, fuckin autocorrect

both the singles have been goddamn great. bit more down with "oh my darling don't cry" but by a small margin at best

i think old ILM can take some credit for this: https://twitter.com/ystrickler/status/520335503414267905

http://jezebel.com/a-brief-taxonomy-of-the-fuccboi-rip-1638331191

first time i thought i heard "fuckboy" in rap was mystikal's big truck boys which i always heard as "Buckle up boy/ain't no fuckboy" but rap genius thinks i'm wrong

I could swear Onyx says "see you in the next life, fuckboy" in "Nigga Bridges"

Sugarhill Gang said "Clark Kent y'all some fuck boys" iirc

wait, yancey strickler, former ILXOR, is the CEO of kickstarter???

Yup

where you been mang?

o_O

"Blockbuster Night" is top 5 rap songs of 2014 for me

Run The Jewels - El-P and Killer Mike

Still a great album, but it’s really getting hard for me to like this guy:

https://www.spin.com/2018/03/killer-gun-ownership-nra-video-watch/

it's completely valid to push back on white liberal conceptions of gun control (for a lot of reasons) but choosing to do so on NRA TV was a really fuckin bad look and I hope he acknowledges that instead of doubling down

I saw someone on twitter defend him by saying it's no different than going on Fox news, which basically everyone does, but I don't think that holds up

I hope he acknowledges that instead of doubling down

― Simon H., Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:07 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

last night on twitter it seemed like he was...doing both? or splitting the difference? doubling down on his message (nb i didn't see the video) and also saying that he didn't really care about the NRA as an organization, it was just an opportunity to get his side out there

I think him bragging about threatening to kick his kids out of the house if they march is going to make me ignore him from now on

yeah that was bullshit

never heard of him before he hooked up w/ Bernie so i aint invested

the bernie quote that was like 'well i was worried he was an actual killer, but now i understand he is just a killer rapper' is still adorable but ya fuck this guy

I think him bragging about threatening to kick his kids out of the house if they march is going to make me ignore him from now on

― President Keyes, Sunday, March 25, 2018 11:49 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

fwiw none of this stuff is new? like, i think he's been pretty open about his views on gun ownership for a while