RIP Adam Yauch/MCA of the Beastie Boys

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i certainly can't think of any other musician that i've heard memorialized extensively on the local rock and hip-hop stations

some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

"sometimes overrated as a live act" loool Loder you tool

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

re MTV compilation clip.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

Wasn't Loder the one who said something about drugs/nicotine when William burroughs passed at a ripe old age?

mh, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

wow @ that video

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

Was this posted? If not...it's one of my fave tv performances
So Whatcha Want on Arsenio with Cypress Hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kX_49MTrJo

This Live at PJ's on Letterman is great too, love the way the Late Night Band just totally slots in with that groove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKNZtRaKLbM

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:11 (eleven years ago) link

I don't care if we keep posting the same vids over and over

moral panic in australia, the tube 1987

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8bY8UhsYnw

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, that MTV Music Awards comp. is an awesome watch.

UnderControl, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:17 (eleven years ago) link

er
http://www.youtube.com/embed/at5TbukcBDY

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

fuck

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

that's cool!

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

idk if this already got posted but hot damn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i1iGa96GYM&feature=related

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

<a href="http://gawker.com/5908629/requiem-for-a-white-mc";>Slightly bizarre/distateful memoir of a 'beef' by a dude whose place in history seems not so certain as MCA's</a>

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

eh, i dunno, that's a pretty good piece.

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

lol figured that was 3rd Bass before I even clicked on it

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

beef always seemed really one-sided to me, 3rd Bass defensively attacking their peers to make a name for themselves.

never understood how the Professor Booty verses were determined to be directed at 3rd Bass - did the Beasties say that in an interview somewhere or something? cuz the disses are pretty generic

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

It's kind of a shame that I've seen the Beastie Boys be awesome two or three times, but the last time I saw them, at Stubbs in Austin playing a "surprise" SXSW gig, they were slop-city.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

Twere great both times I saw them. Once on IC tour at Brixton and earlier at Town & Country Club where they were co-headlining with Henry Rollins. Beasties played first so they were done by 9pm allowing me to get home nice and early which I appreciated. I'm not v rock n roll.

pandemic, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, I found that pete nice piece kind of touching in its honesty.

In reality, and despite whatever the Voice cover said, the Beasties had already broken the perceived "street barrier" for white artists performing in a black medium: their 12-inch single off of Licensed in 1986, "Hold it Now, Hit It," had done the job. The record got major play on KISS-FM and WBLS with tons of spins by Red Alert, Chuck Chillout, Mr. Magic, and Marley Marl. For any MC at that time, white or black, recognition like that on the Friday or Saturday mix-shows was the epitome of success.

^ 100% OTM. I knew the beasties from the "she's on it" single and it was cool but also kind of a joke, but when "hold it now hit it" dropped, that was a real rap song and everybody recognized it and it remains to this day my fave beastie jam.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

i'm relieved to hear that MCA was black enough for prime minister pete nice

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1rvUMO24eI

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

3rd Bass always struck me as chumpy in much the same way as Vanilla Ice...white dudes trying to be black rappers instead of just rappers. I think that's why Eminem broke through, because you don't ever mistake that guy for being a black rapper. He's just a rapper.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

^^^

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

the first 3rd Bass album is a classic IMO, so much great prince paul, sam sever, simulated dummies production and they were really good rappers, one of my favorites of that era

that article felt sort of uncharitable and weirdly self-obsessed.

however, a couple nice pieces of trivia, which i'm always thankful for:

1) professor x was 3rd bass's manager! amazing!

2) DMX was Just Ice's beatboxer!!!! crazy

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

3rd Bass, Henry Rollins, Vanilla Ice ... it all comes together!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzXI_ApY4dY

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that Professor X bit was news to me, that's bizarre

I went back to that first 3rd Bass album awhile ago and it really didn't hold up imho

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

the first 3rd Bass album is a classic IMO, so much great prince paul, sam sever, simulated dummies production and they were really good rappers, one of my favorites of that era

that article felt sort of uncharitable and weirdly self-obsessed.

^^^OTM

the first time i saw the beasties, at brixton for ill comms, their different flavours didn't really gell like they do on record, but i have a boot of them in new jersey in 1992 that is simply fantastic.

It was you. Miming to Tenacious D. (stevie), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

The only time I've seen them was 2007 at the Greek Theater in Berkeley, I think I said that upthread somewhere. It was one of their 'greatest hits' shows they did when the MixUp came out. They were awesome, whole show was like a big party.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

beef always seemed really one-sided to me, 3rd Bass defensively attacking their peers to make a name for themselves.

never understood how the Professor Booty verses were determined to be directed at 3rd Bass - did the Beasties say that in an interview somewhere or something? cuz the disses are pretty generic

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:57 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

MCA's "dancin' around like you think you're Janet Jackson" line on Professor Booty was pretty clearly aimed at Serch.

Jean-Luc Poncey (lpz), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

i liked the cactus album at the time, but haven't heard it in forever

"we are looking for the brooklyn-queens"

^ i thought this was a gay joke

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

MCA's "dancin' around like you think you're Janet Jackson" line on Professor Booty was pretty clearly aimed at Serch.

I've always heard that, but there were plenty of dancing rappers at the time. Cube had lyrics dissing dancing rappers too, were those all aimed at Serch?

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

3rd bass invented the gas face so theyre cool as hell forever for that

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

love pop goes the weasel tbh

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

Damn, Shakey. Did 3rd Bass take shots at Ice Cube before he started dissing dancing rappers?

The Gas Face, Brooklyn Queens, Steppin' To The AM, Products Of The Environment and a few other tracks on the Cactus still hold up pretty well. I mean what, late '80s Prince Paul and Bomb Squad tracks aren't enough?

Jean-Luc Poncey (lpz), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

rap beef magic eye

10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

pete nice always had nice suits

The Reverend, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

ade is otm tho

The Reverend, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

So many wack M.C.'s you get the T.V. bozack
Ain't even gonna call out your names 'cause you're so wack
But one big oaf whose faker than plastic
A dictionary definition of the word spastic
You should have never started something that you couldn't finish
'Cause writin' rhymes to me is like popeye to spinach
I'm bad ass move your fat ass 'cause you're wack son
Dancin' around like you think you're Janet Jackson
Thought you could walk on me to get some ground to walk on
I'll pull the rug out from under your ass as I talk on
I'll take you out like a sniper on a roof
Like an M.C. at the fever in the D.J. booth

Jean-Luc Poncey (lpz), Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, it's probably about 3rd bass because who else would it be about?

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

its funny i heard those lines a million times but never once thought about who it might be about, or that it was about a specific guy at all

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

Vanilla Ice? MC Hammer? anyone? rappers routinely attack anonymous targets.

xp

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

a lot of classic dis tracks drop really specific clues even if they don't name the target outright - referencing particular lines of the target's or stylistic tropes or whatever. the closest thing that Professor Booty has to any of those is maybe the fat ass/dancing line but even that's pretty vague. imho.

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

like, that's hardly No Vaseline or Takeover or even the Real Roxanne

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

Vanilla Ice? MC Hammer? anyone? rappers routinely attack anonymous targets.

More like Heavy D? Chunky A? The Fat Boys? or MC Serch?

i will show you fear in a handful of nuts (how's life), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

shakey, who else ever really dissed the beastie boys that publically?

1) Hammer and Vanilla Ice dance but are not remotely "fat asses"

2) Serch is pleasantly plump but i like my white rappers w/some junk in the trunk

3) "Thought you could walk on me to get some ground to walk on" > who else used dissing the beasties to gain rep like 3rd Bass...also the "started something you couldn't finish"

4) Dissing is so out of character for the Beasties, they really occupied their own little world, it would HAVE to be for some reason, someone calling them out, i.e. 3rd Bass

5) Sure, it's vague compared to No Vaseline but I've heard way more vague stuff in disses before, so it's not like this is some unsolveable mystery

Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 May 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link


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