commercially disappointing major label rock/alternative albums of 1996

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obviously, the bar for success varies pretty widely here, some of these albums sold a lot and some of these acts were never very big to begin with, but pretty much each of these albums sold less half of what the artist's previous album had. a lot of bands got dropped from their labels and/or broke up or went on hiatus after this, and pretty much none of them had a big Green Day/RHCP-style sales comeback later on even if some maintained pretty healthy careers from then on.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
R.E.M. - New Adventures In Hi-Fi 28
Afghan Wigs - Black Love 19
Weezer - Pinkerton 19
Screaming Trees - Dust 16
Tori Amos - Boys For Pele 15
Pearl Jam - No Code 7
Stone Temple Pilots - Tiny Music... Songs From The Vatican Gift Shop 6
The Posies - Amazing Disgrace 5
Porno For Pyros - Good God's Urge 4
Neil Young - Broken Arrow 4
Soundgarden - Down On The Upside 3
They Might Be Giants - Factory Showroom 3
Elvis Costello & The Attractions - All This Useless Beauty 2
Metallica - Load 2
Counting Crows - Recovering The Sattelites 2
Type O Negative - October Rust 2
Hootie & The Blowfish - Fairweather Johnson 2
Bad Religion - The Gray Race 1
The Presidents of the United States of America - II 1
Ministry - Filth Pig 1
Gin Blossoms - Congratulations I'm Sorry 1
The Cure - Wild Mood Swings 1
Bush - Razorblade Suitcase 1
The Black Crowes - Three Snakes And One Charm 1
Better Than Ezra - Friction, Baby 0
Sponge - Wax Ecstatic 0
The Cranberries - To The Faithful Departed 0


Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:52 (nine years ago) link

classic some dude poll!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:54 (nine years ago) link

i dunno if it'll do as well as some of my earlier works, but i think it'll attain a cult following over time

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:55 (nine years ago) link

still play these:

Afghan Wigs - Black Love
Pearl Jam - No Code
R.E.M. - New Adventures In Hi-Fi

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:56 (nine years ago) link

I voted for New Adventures In Hi-Fi. I loved it at the time and still rate it highly now.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:56 (nine years ago) link

screaming trees or afghan whigs. Arguably for some the best albums they made

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:56 (nine years ago) link

I'm not distributing their place in this poll, but Weezer is almost in their own category: the only one that sold more and more units in catalog?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:57 (nine years ago) link

*disputing

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:57 (nine years ago) link

lots of Tori stans might creep out and vote for BFP.

It's true that this is a matter of degrees. Razorblade Suitcase hit #1 and "Swallowed" and "Greedy Fly" got almost as much airplay as the SS singles but it's still considered a failure.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:58 (nine years ago) link

how i would rank the ones i've heard: Posies > REM > Pearl Jam > Counting Crows > They Might Be Giants > Soundgarden > Elvis Costello > STP > Tori Amos > Screaming Trees > Afghan Whigs > Metallica > Weezer > Porno For Pyros > Neil Young > Presidents

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 17:59 (nine years ago) link

yeah a LOT of these albums were the acts' first as an established brand and got their highest Billboard 200 peak, just didn't have staying power.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:00 (nine years ago) link

Pinkerton was a commercial disappointment at the time and seemed to attract some scatching reviews. I have no problem with the record at all, but it's amazing how far general opinion of the record seems to have swung so far in the other direction that folks seem to overrate it now more than anything.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:00 (nine years ago) link

how much did ATUSB ship over Brutal Youth? I know the latter hit the top forty but it couldn't have been by much.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:00 (nine years ago) link

and in the case of something like Load, which was following up the biggest-selling album of the SoundScan era, you can't really pretend a sales decrease wasn't inevitable, but just keeping albums like that on here for the sake of completism and to show the range of different kind of dropoffs that happened that year.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:01 (nine years ago) link

It's true that this is a matter of degrees. Razorblade Suitcase hit #1 and "Swallowed" and "Greedy Fly" got almost as much airplay as the SS singles but it's still considered a failure.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, May 3, 2012 5:58 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Most things that Bush did were generally considered a failure in their home country ;)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:02 (nine years ago) link

Costello is on the lower end of the sales spectrum in this list and it's always harder to find firm numbers on those kinds of albums, but i still have a strong hunch it was bought maybe half as much, and in any even the singles were far less successful.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:02 (nine years ago) link

haha yes -- also known as A Flock of Seagullysm.

xpost

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:03 (nine years ago) link

for comparison, acts who released their highest selling albums in 1996: Dave Matthews Band, Sublime, Marilyn Manson, Beck, Rage Against The Machine

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:03 (nine years ago) link

between Spike and the Bacharach collab EC inhabited a strange interzone. I'm not sure who was buying his records besides me.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:04 (nine years ago) link

I remember the boxes and boxes full of unsold Hootie and Black Crowes CDs. The horror, the horror.

(so are we voting for the worst selling album here or the most overlooked or what?)

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:05 (nine years ago) link

sorry, i should have clarified: vote for the best/your favorite or whatever

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:08 (nine years ago) link

that black crowes album is where i jumped ship. it was awful. still adore the 1st 3.

i will stick up for that porno for pyros album too and the pearl jam album is their best.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:10 (nine years ago) link

To offer a UK perspective: I think Jagged Little Pill, funnily enough, was one of the highest selling albums in 1996. Oasis' (What's The Story) Morning Glory? was released the previous year, but copies were still flying off the shelves throughout the year.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:10 (nine years ago) link

but i had to vote 'Dust'

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:10 (nine years ago) link

yeah obv a lot of '95 albums reigned over '96 (Mellon Collie, Garbage, The Bends)

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:14 (nine years ago) link

lol I reviewed the Soundgarden record for my college paper.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:14 (nine years ago) link

i like it, but then diminishing returns of the Superunknown era is my idea of a good time

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:18 (nine years ago) link

I still think there's some good stuff on Down On The Upside, although I've always felt the record should have been a lot shorter, with a few of the lesser tracks bumped off. Never been a fan of 'Applebite', for example.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:21 (nine years ago) link

Weezer's Green album and Make Believe did more than pretty well after Pinkerton, did they not.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:25 (nine years ago) link

should probably be pinkerton but i voted for stone temple pilots, there were some good songs on that album

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:25 (nine years ago) link

i think the CD-era largesse peaked around '96-'98 where seemingly every album being released was a few songs too long, but Soundgarden did 70-minute indulgence better than many

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:25 (nine years ago) link

yeah Weezer def had the best sales rebound of any of these bands, but obv they did the whole depressed hiatus thing first

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:27 (nine years ago) link

Amazing Disgrace has grown over the years into perhaps my favorite Posies album. I saw them on that tour and they were terrific, too. That album might be the closest one to bridging their live sound with their recorded sound.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:32 (nine years ago) link

lol oh man do i remember this year

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah Amazing Disgrace was the album that got me into the Posies and i have a huge sentimental attachment to it, even though it is definitely flawed and i probably consider Frosting a better album overall.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:33 (nine years ago) link

That's a pretty sad list. I still like the Soundgarden, Tori Amos, and Weezer albums, but New Adventures In Hi-Fi is one of my favorite REM albums so it's an easy choice.

Also, "Volcano" is awesome and probably my favorite PUSA single, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard the whole second album.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:35 (nine years ago) link

for some reason either my brother or i bought the PUSA album. it's probably as good as the first, but, y'know, what does that even mean.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Boy, Veruca Salt just missed this list by two months.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:40 (nine years ago) link

a lot of 95/97 albums are in the same boat but i wanted to emphasize what a bloodbath '96 was in particular

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:41 (nine years ago) link

my firs thoughts about this period were "Belly and Juliana Hatfield."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:42 (nine years ago) link

Before I opened this thread I knew I was voting for black love

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:43 (nine years ago) link

album sales in general didn't drop in '96 so i kinda wonder if there was some mass exodus to, like, rap and country among teenagers in that period or if the rock crowd just became really fractured post-Cobain and a thousand different indie bands siphoned off the fans of these 20 platinum acts

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:44 (nine years ago) link

Was just listening last night to Three Snakes and One Charm and it's still my favorite Crowes album.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:46 (nine years ago) link

my firs thoughts about this period were "Belly and Juliana Hatfield."

Fond of both of those albums.

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:47 (nine years ago) link

if ship had included '95, yes, King would have been my pick.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:47 (nine years ago) link

good lord this list is mostly horrible. i have hopes for ilx managing not to vote for pinkerton, not that its bad, just that its what the rest of the internet would vote for and i am elitist scum

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:47 (nine years ago) link

I voted No Code, my favorite PJ album & one I have a lot of time for still.

Broken Arrow really seemed like one album too far. saw Neil live on that tour & was both rocked & shocked at how pointless it seemed.

Euler, Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:48 (nine years ago) link

jesus christ, WHIGS

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:48 (nine years ago) link

i'm gonna start calling liv tyer "the spacehag"

kitty shayme (some dude), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:09 (nine years ago) link

I am so pissed off to be reminded of "Mungo City"

― da croupier, Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:58 PM Bookmark

^^^ pops into my head every time i think of Spacehog now

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:09 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6YkVlI5VSU

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:10 (nine years ago) link

also not to be a self-plugger but if you are digging on kula shaker, mungo city and "fix" this may be the thread for you: 50 Memorable Songs Of The Late 1990s That Apparently Only You Remember, Even Though They Were Totally On The Radio And Stuff

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 04:11 (nine years ago) link

I finally took a look at 1996's albums in my music and I'm a little bowled over. Here's the list of everything alternative-ish that wasn't represented in the poll and that I'll stump for (to varying degrees) and largely still listen to and enjoy:

A Minor Forest - Flemish Altruism
Aphex Twin - Richard D. James
Fiona Apple - Tidal
Baby Fox - A Normal Family
Bardo Pond - Amanita
Beck - Odelay
Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister and Tigermilk
Butter 08 - S/T
Cardigans - First Band On The Moon
Cat Power - What Would The Community Think
Cibo Matto - Viva! La Woman
Cocteau Twins - Milk and Kisses
Cynthia Dall - (untitled)
Dirty Three - Horse Stories
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
DJ Spooky - Necropolis
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst
Eels - Beautiful Freak
Future Sound Of London - Dead Cities
Gastr Del Sol - Upgrade & Afterlife
Lisa Germano - Excerpts From A Love Circus
Girls Against Boys - House of GVSB
Guided By Voices - Under The Bushes, Under The Stars
PJ Harvey & John Parish - Dance Hall At Louse Point
Hayden - Everything I Long For
High Llamas - Hawaii
Illyah Kuryahkin - Count No Count
Imperial Teen - Seasick
Jonathan Fire*Eater - Tremble Under Boom Lights
JSBX - Now I Got Worry
June Of 44 - Tropics & Meridians
Kostars - Klassics With A K
Lamb - S/T
Luscious Jackson - Fever In Fever Out
Mazzy Star - Among My Swan
Takako Minekawa - Roomic Cube
Modest Mouse - This Is A Long Drive For Someone With Nothing To Think About
Morcheeba - Who Can You Trust
NMH - On Avery Island
Ninetynine - S/T
OTC - Dusk At Cubist Castle and Explanation II
Orbital - In Sides
Beth Orton - Trailer Park
Palace Music - Arise, Therefore
Polvo - Exploded Drawing
Rachel's - The Sea And The Bells
Raincoats - Looking In The Shadows
Alex Reece - So Far
Retsin - Egg Fusion
Rome - S/T
Royal Trux - Sweet Sixteen
Sammy - Tales Of Great Neck Glory
Sebadoh - Harmacy
Sleater-Kinney - Call The Doctor
Sloan - One Chord To Another
Smog - The Doctor Came At Dawn and Kicking A Couple Around
Sonora Pine - S/T
Soul Coughing - Irresistable Bliss
Spinanes - Strand
Spoon - Telefono
Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
Sugar Plant - Cage Of The Sun
Superdrag - Regretfully Yours
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Tricky - Pre-Millennium Tension and Nearly God
Underworld - Second Toughest In The Infants
Veruca Salt - Blow It Out Your Ass, It's Veruca Salt
Ween - 12 Golden Country Greats
Wilco - Being There

YMMV with a lot of these albums, but it blows my mind that anyone who was into alternative/indie stuff would consider this a shitty year for music. That's more decent-to-great stuff in a single year than I've probably discovered from the past five years.

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 05:05 (nine years ago) link

re: deric's list, i did something similar in the "defend 1996" thread:

12 Favorites:

Sun City Girls - 330,003 Cross-Dressers...
Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics
Hellacopters - Supershitty to the Max!
Belle and Sebastian - Tigermilk and If You're Feeling Sinister
Outkast - ATLiens
Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup
John Zorn - Bar Kokhba
Harmony of the Spheres compilation
Bardo Pond - Amanita
Turbonegro - Ass Cobra
Ghostface Killah - Ironman

Other Good Stuff:

2Pac - All Eyez On Me
Arvo Part - Litany
Boris - Absolutego
Brainiac - Hissing Prigs In Static Couture
Butter 08 - Butter 08
Cibo Matto - Year of the Woman
Circle - Zopalki
Country Teasers - Satan Is Real Again
Cryptopsy - None So Vile
De La Soul - Stakes Is High
DJ Spooky - Songs of a Dead Dreamer
Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst and Instrumentalyst
E-40 - Hall of Game
Fatboy Slim - Better Living Through Chemistry
Fu Manchu - In Search of...
fucking racist asshole - Filosofem
Fugees - The Score
Guided By Voices - Tonics & Twisted Chasers and Under the Bushes Under the Stars
Harvey Milk - Courtesy and Goodwill to Men
Imperial Teen - Seasick
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Jessamine - The Long Arm of Coincidence
Magic Hour - Secession '96
Maxwell - Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite
Melvins - Stag
Mobb Deep - Hell On Earth
MOP - Firing Squad
Neutral Milk Hotel - On Avery Island
Oblivians - Popular Favorites
Olivia Tremor Control - Dusk at Cubist Castle
Sleater-Kinney - Call the Doctor
Sloan - One Chord to Another
Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind
The Brian Jonestown Massacre - Take It From the Man! (and at least one more)
The Chemical Brothers - Live At the Social, Vol. 1
The Fall - Light User Syndrome
The Heads - Relaxing With...
Three 6 Mafia - The End
Tricky - Pre-Millennium Tension
Unwound - Repetition
Weezer - Pinkerton

was a great fucking year

Yeah, and my list dispensed with most the mainstream pop and hip hop from that year. '96 just don't stop.

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:45 (nine years ago) link

Also, lest we all forget, '96 also brought us this gem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1piLRStP7xE

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:46 (nine years ago) link

oh man that totally belonged in my poll :-/

Mark Ruffalo! is gonna tell us! about empathy! (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:49 (nine years ago) link

dr casino you need to get a mungo city jar, where every time you want to post a clip of "mungo city" or reference "mungo city" on ilx you hit yourself with the mungo city jar.

da croupier, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:50 (nine years ago) link

lmao

some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:52 (nine years ago) link

hahahahah

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:57 (nine years ago) link

btw props for filing "fucking racist asshole" alphabetically under F

some dude, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:57 (nine years ago) link

can't believe i didn't bother to read the Xgau P&J essay from this year already, really touches on a lot of the same points covered itt:
http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/pj96.php

the girl with the swag and tattoo (some dude), Friday, 18 May 2012 21:03 (nine years ago) link

voted for whigs, nice to see this turnout

Hungry4Ass, Friday, 18 May 2012 23:17 (nine years ago) link

formative years for so many of us

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 23:20 (nine years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Carbuttoncloththelemonheads.jpg

thought of another album for the 'accidental omissions' list along w/ Cracker and Tom Petty

some cute (some dude), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:25 (nine years ago) link

oh man – I assigned this album when I was arts editor in college. "If I Could Talk I'd Tell You"!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:27 (nine years ago) link

Just listened to "If I Could Talk I'd Tell You" this morning. Another pretty little Lemonheads tune, if ultimately fairly empty at its core.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:28 (nine years ago) link

I did not like that album

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:38 (nine years ago) link

Blame the drugs.

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:39 (nine years ago) link

it's a shame about evan

some cute (some dude), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:42 (nine years ago) link

Wasn't that around the time he started doing stuff with Noel Gallagher? Yeah...

Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:49 (nine years ago) link

his vocal sounds like he's singing around a gob of Listerine.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:51 (nine years ago) link

some really good stuff on it, first three tracks especially, but oh god C'mon Daddy is fucking terrible

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:06 (nine years ago) link

I love the sound on that Lemonheads album. It's so bright and airy. While there aren't any stand-out songs, first half of the record is really solid. I like the cover of Knoxville Girl. It always seemed that there was something pretty fucked up lurking behind the Dando persona and that choice of song is kinda, "Yeah, that makes sense."

brontosaur, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 17:14 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

I know it's not quite "modern rock," but Sheryl Crow's eponymous follow up definitely fits in this category. Better than the first album, IMO, but definitely a big dip sales wise (I think Entertainment Weekly even wrote an article about all of these at the time).

Alt radio definitely played "If It Makes You Happy" and "Everyday is a Winding Road" -- which should've been the leading single.

LimbsKing, Saturday, 24 May 2014 11:41 (seven years ago) link

Is it viewed as a disappointment though? I don't think so. It's still her most critically beloved album (self-production, etc), and those singles got as much airplay as the TNMC stuff.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 May 2014 12:15 (seven years ago) link

It went triple platinum and stayed in the charts for more than a year.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 May 2014 12:16 (seven years ago) link

man I know I'm a sap, but I love If It Makes You Happy.

when I was in the 3rd grade I thought I was Geir (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 25 May 2014 07:40 (seven years ago) link

"Sheryl Crow" sold less than half what "Tuesdsay Night Music Club" sold so by my measuring stick of what constitutes thread inclusion, i'll allow it

ςὖτ ιτ Οὖτ (some dude), Sunday, 25 May 2014 10:13 (seven years ago) link

Yeah -- I was unaware that it had actually sold 3 million copies. I just remember the opinion at the time was that it was a letdown from TNMC, and "If It Makes You Happy" slid down the charts quicker than "All I Wanna Do." (Artistic merit notwithstanding -- great album, great singles, esp. when you include "A Change Would Do You Good" and "Home.")

LimbsKing, Sunday, 25 May 2014 14:03 (seven years ago) link

Sheryl Crow sold more copies than Tuesday Night Music Club here in the UK, and I remember several songs from it were hits here. Only 'All I Wanna Do' from Tuesday Night Music Club had much impact.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 25 May 2014 15:13 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that one's tricky - definitely a sophomore slump but maybe one that could have been comfortably predicted by the execs? Feel like the singles from it were generally bigger and longer-lived than those from a lot of these other records - or maybe just had a slightly greater degree of crossover/VH1 play...

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 25 May 2014 16:29 (seven years ago) link

yeah it seemed like "Every Day is a Winding Road" and "If It Makes You Happy" never went away between 1996-1997.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 May 2014 17:25 (seven years ago) link

never forgave her for using "everyday" incorrectly

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 25 May 2014 17:29 (seven years ago) link

Thats prob the weakest of the singles from the album tbh. You can almost hear Soak Up the Sun start to take shape...

when I was in the 3rd grade I thought I was Geir (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 25 May 2014 20:21 (seven years ago) link

yeah it sold less but it also proved she wasn't a fluke one album act, which was a real risk for those kind of big hit having vaguely boho female acts. it wasn't fairweather johnson or anything. pretty fond of that album and the next one tbh.

balls, Sunday, 25 May 2014 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Yeah balls otm. I'd prob taking the singles from this album and the Globe Sessions (+ Difficult Kind which I can't believe wasn't one) over a comparable string from any pop or country singer that ILX has been enamored with in the past couple years

(xp to myself actually its A Change Would Do You Good that resembles Soak Up the Sun. But Change is great, go figure)

when I was in the 3rd grade I thought I was Geir (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 25 May 2014 20:57 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

OMG what an appalling shitshow of a list.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 23:47 (one year ago) link

No kidding!

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 00:07 (one year ago) link

idk i feel like i like a majority of these

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 00:33 (one year ago) link

Everyone wrong about Sheryl Crow.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 00:58 (one year ago) link

Lotta good albums in this list.

omar little, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 02:06 (one year ago) link

II by The Presidents was the first time I'd ever been disappointed in a CD I'd bought. I think I was 11 and it was probably my 5th or 6th CD. I remember thinking, "it sounds like they made half of these songs up in an afternoon"

I also recall Factory Showroom being a huge disappointment, like it was almost a betrayal that TMBG had made such a "normal" rock album. It's still pretty weird of course. In retrospect its probably one of their finest albums, I remember putting it on recently and thinking it made a case for TMBG as part of the same power pop lineage as Costello & Squeeze. It does have that really awful "XTC vs. Adam Ant" song on it though

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:18 (one year ago) link

i've warmed on factory showroom thanks to the TMBG poll thread discussions. even at the time it felt to me like a helpful course correction *away* from John Henry's generic rock band move. i just wish it had felt more overstuffed with ideas and songs, like their older albums.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 21:40 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

from ILM poll to SPIN article in 9 years

well done, some dude

alpine static, Tuesday, 14 September 2021 01:06 (four days ago) link

i dunno if it'll do as well as some of my earlier works, but i think it'll attain a cult following over time

― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:55 PM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 September 2021 04:17 (four days ago) link


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