"I go to BlackPOLL for my holidays,"-- ILM Artist Poll #17 -- The Kinks RESULTS THREAD

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well chosen thread title imho

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:12 (seven years ago) link

I love results.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:14 (seven years ago) link

Woo-hoo!

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:14 (seven years ago) link

I love The Kinks.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:14 (seven years ago) link

Let me start off by acknowledging this two collections, which both got votes in the album election even though comps weren't eligible. However I'll throw listing logic out the window just this once for a weirdo #10 for the albums countdown.

10. (comps special entry)

http://images.wikia.com/lyricwiki/images/5/5d/The_Kinks_-_The_Great_Lost_Kinks_Album.jpg

The Great Lost Kinks Album, 1973

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg431/soydelmonton3/KinkKronikles_320.jpg

The Kink Kronikles, 1972

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:19 (seven years ago) link

9.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BBpVXu9CL._SS500_.jpg

Low Budget, 1979 -- 5 Points (2 Votes)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:23 (seven years ago) link

8.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YFk2y4dmL._SS500_.jpg

Kinda Kinks, 1965 -- 11 Points (5 Votes)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:27 (seven years ago) link

7.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518-x9aI%2BxL._SS400_.jpg

The Kink Kontroversy, 1965 -- 14 Points (5 Votes)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:31 (seven years ago) link

I think Low Budget is my least favorite of the Arista years, but I did vote for a track from it.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:32 (seven years ago) link

6.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51da1susz5L._SS400_.jpg

Lola versus Powerman and the Money-Go-Round, Part One, 1970 -- 17 Points (8 Votes, 1 #1)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:35 (seven years ago) link

Kinda Kinks and Kontroversy should probs be higher, but it's only a top 10 anyway so I can live with those placements.

Lola Vs... should be lower. ;)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:38 (seven years ago) link

Kinda surprised Low Budget made the list. It definitely sounds like a "comeback" album, but the more I think about it, the more it strikes me as a less-ambitious/less-tuneful Schoolboys.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:39 (seven years ago) link

Love the cover of Lola vs Powerman even though it hasn't figured much in my ballot.
Have been quietly anticipating these poll results, will admit that.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:41 (seven years ago) link

I was so tempted to post this as the image for #7:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VZX3D11AL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

One of my fave vintage ILM memes from Cover Connections threads.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:46 (seven years ago) link

5.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y9c7fL5GL._SS500_.jpg

Muswell Hillbillies, 1971 -- 20 Points (8 Votes, 1 #1)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:07 (seven years ago) link

4.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-uNPUblhL._SS400_.jpg

Face To Face, 1966 -- 53 Points (18 Votes, 2 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:10 (seven years ago) link

3.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51hnMnS-goL._SS400_.jpg

Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire), 1969 -- 53 Points (16 Votes, 5 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:14 (seven years ago) link

2.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51boryEV27L._SS400_.jpg

Something Else By The Kinks, 1967 -- 67 Points (19 Votes, 5 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:19 (seven years ago) link

can't believe schoolboys in disgrace took the top spot

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:20 (seven years ago) link

Quick question: What's up with the blue Something Else? I've been posting the Castle/Sanctuary covers (non-deluxe) when applicable, but my copy of their edition of the album is gray.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:22 (seven years ago) link

I used to like Muswell more than I do now, but this is a solid top 5.

I think the blue Something Elses are just cruddy scans.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:22 (seven years ago) link

I didn't vote in the albums poll, but would have voted "Arthur" for #1 (also let me be the first to say "Lola vs Powerman" is too low).

o. nate, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:23 (seven years ago) link

xp I've only ever seen gray Something Elses. First US Kinks album artwork not to be fucked with by Reprise, though.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:24 (seven years ago) link

1.

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/a8/4c/0c5581b0c8a037ecd0b0c110.L._AA300_.jpg

Think Visual, 1986 -- lol Points (haha Votes, yuckyuck #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:25 (seven years ago) link

har har

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:26 (seven years ago) link

yuckyuck #1s ftw

when will Jesus bring the composition chops? (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:27 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if a single track from that album even got a vote from anyone. The band's nadir? Possibly.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:29 (seven years ago) link

No really,

1.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51rWPP0EAEL._SS400_.jpg

The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society, 1968 -- 73 Points (20 Votes, 7 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:29 (seven years ago) link

xp "Working at the Factory" might've made my top...50.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:31 (seven years ago) link

BTW, this was up as a customer image on the amazon Think Visual page:

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/b6/a0/66bc810ae7a0d30be5a31210.L.jpg

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:32 (seven years ago) link

heh yukyuk

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:44 (seven years ago) link

xp "Working at the Factory" might've made my top...50.

Yes. That's a real good song, although it gets tiring listening to Ray whine about the music industry.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:50 (seven years ago) link

I remember liking "The Video Shop" too, but thinking it was twice as long as it needed to be.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:53 (seven years ago) link

I think other people must enjoy the Kinks differently from me, because "Village Green" is easily my least favorite of the 1966-1971 Kinks albums. It sounds like de-clawed Kinks to me.

o. nate, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:16 (seven years ago) link

random Kinks catalog question: how many songs has Ray Davies written about/referencing his sister emigrating to Australia. 10? 20?

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:16 (seven years ago) link

i voted for "Destroyer" -- i will try not to troll this thread too much but in the course of putting together my ballot and listening to a bunch of songs (I'm mostly familiar with them from the Ultimate Kinks 2xCD comp) i realized that i kinda sorta hate this band, or at least RD's voice/sense of humor.

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:19 (seven years ago) link

4.

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"Harry Rag"
Something Else By The Kinks, 1967
6 Points (3 Votes, 1 #1)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:22 (seven years ago) link

3.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Lazy_Lester.jpg/220px-Lazy_Lester.jpg

"Naggin' Woman"
Kinda Kinks, 1965
6 Points (2 Votes, 2 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:25 (seven years ago) link

Harry Rag is so weird. never heard this euphemism for weed anywhere else.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:25 (seven years ago) link

BTW, That's Lazy Lester, who did the original. (xpost)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:26 (seven years ago) link

2.

http://img.wax.fm/releases/1572018/kinks-come-dancing-1310276.jpeg

"Come Dancing"
State of Confusion, 1983
7 Points (3 Votes, 2 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:32 (seven years ago) link

Weird. Had no idea that song was hated by Kinks fans at all. Always thought it was widely seen as a resounding return to form.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:35 (seven years ago) link

well, 3 votes. and one of 'em is me, who just came out as a non-fan.

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:35 (seven years ago) link

1.

http://images.45cat.com/the-kinks-a-rock-n-roll-fantasy-1978-s.jpg

"Black Messiah"
Misfits, 1978
9 Points (3 Votes, 3 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:37 (seven years ago) link

I was 8 when Come Dancing came out, but I thought it was great if not a little confusing thanks to the video, which I watched over and over and over while we were on vacation because I had MTV for the first time in my short life. Had nfi what a Pally was, that's for sure.

I didn't know anyone hated it either.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:38 (seven years ago) link

some people need to listen to 'art lover'

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:38 (seven years ago) link

And that's it for today.

Will be back to begin the "Top 50" Rollout tomorrow.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:38 (seven years ago) link

well, 3 votes. and one of 'em is me, who just came out as a non-fan.

haha, no, I wasn't saying "Grr, you're not a fan if you don't like this." I'm just surprised is all.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:39 (seven years ago) link

apparently! Sadly, an overpriced import to the States.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:43 (seven years ago) link

5 cds and a dvd. http://www.thekinks.info/the-kinks-at-the-bbc/

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (seven years ago) link

yeah, just saw that it was more than $100! maybe it'll come down. looks niiiiiice.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (seven years ago) link

hmmmm is that ... is that a thing?

Is it weird that I read that in a Dave Chappelle voice?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (seven years ago) link

yes.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:47 (seven years ago) link

hot damn tamale.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:52 (seven years ago) link

when are we doing The Who. Did I miss it?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:21 (seven years ago) link

The Who will be #24, and will be run by Tarfumes.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:36 (seven years ago) link

Just seen the timing thread, and notice The Cure and Kate Bush are upcoming. Must find out how to vote, some spreadsheet malarkey iirc. Is there an idiot's guide?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:36 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

Just saw on the Kinks fb page that Rosie Davies, sister of Ray and Dave and inspiration for many of the former's songs, has passed away.

Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:24 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Here's Dave Davies taking the ice bucket challenge as nominated by Mark Hammill.

Wait, what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhRZVISDppU

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:17 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Why didn't any of you tell me about The Kinks? Gonna have to listen to the first ten albums and then get back to you about these results, but let's just say that I'm enjoying them quite a lot. My initiation, courtesy tt, is Lola vs Powerman, and you all seem to think it's not even one of their best, but my god it's great

imago, Sunday, 11 August 2019 09:32 (one week ago) link

Utterly baffled by this band, early fuzz notwithstanding. Cultural barrier may be a factor.

pomenitul, Sunday, 11 August 2019 10:41 (one week ago) link

Utterly baffled by imago liking the Kinks tbh.

Euripedes' Trousers (Tom D.), Sunday, 11 August 2019 11:43 (one week ago) link

I liked my ballot so much I made a playlist out of it and have listened to it countless times. I even tried to play all the songs a few times, to varying degrees of success.

Always good to think about the Kinks 😀

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 11 August 2019 13:12 (one week ago) link

it's not our fault, look cardiacs even covered "susannah's still alive" in 1988, what else did you need?

Abigail, Wife of Preserved Fish (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 August 2019 15:48 (one week ago) link

Pssst imago the Kinks are fantastic

Also there are like a hundred ILM Kinks threads

Οὖτις, Sunday, 11 August 2019 15:51 (one week ago) link

Face to Face through Muswell is pretty much all essential, and get the expanded editions so you don't miss all the non-album sides.

o. nate, Sunday, 11 August 2019 20:43 (one week ago) link

Haven't looked at these results yet but if Ray Davies has written more than two or three better songs than Do You Remember Walter then I'll hardly believe it, that is one of the best things I have ever heard

imago, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:07 (one week ago) link

Wistful songs of lost opportunity, middling regret, and unsatisfied complacency? I'd put that one in the middle of a dozen great songs in that mode.

bendy, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:25 (one week ago) link

Kink Kronicles is one of the best compilations ever made and it's downright essential even if you've got all the studio albums since half of it is non-album/single tracks

frogbs, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:32 (one week ago) link

The big 50th anniversary reissue box set of Arthur is coming out in a couple months. Theres a few different super deluxe versions of it with tons of extras and bonus discs and toys, but none of the bonus material really tempts me that much, my vinyl copy still sounds great and endless alternate mono mixes don't really excite me. But I'll probably still get whatever the cheapest CD version is that still comes with the book-length liner notes -
I know the broad strokes behind the context & making of the album but I'd love to dig deeper into it.

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:39 (one week ago) link

Which reminds me, imago, don't sleep on the unreleased Dave Davies album, which is pretty easy to find in various versions, amazing stuff there!

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:43 (one week ago) link

picked up a nice copy of Arthur been listening a lot... lyrics to Some Mother's Son are so brutal, what a songwriter


Two soldiers fighting in a trench
One soldier glances up to see the sun
And dreams of games he played when he was young
And then his friend calls out his name
It stops his dream and as he turns his head
A second later he is dead
Some mother's son lies in a field
Back home they put his picture in a frame
But all dead soldiers look the same
While all the parents stand and wait
To meet their children coming home from school
Some mother's son is lying dead

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 August 2019 18:52 (one week ago) link

Wow. Makes me think of the Kipling poem "The Beginner"

On the first hour of my first day
In the front trench I fell
(Children in boxes at a play
Stand up to watch it well.)

Lily Dale, Monday, 12 August 2019 18:56 (one week ago) link

For such a 'Lost Album' there's been loads of Official reissues of the Dave stuff. Your best bet is a single disc called Hidden Treasures that collects the most relevant stuff (and then some) with superb annotation.

"Creeping Jean" is one of the great lost Kinks songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m07i8jUpFxg

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 August 2019 19:30 (one week ago) link

Yeah the Hidden Treasures disc is the one I've got, definitely recommend it, seems like the definitive version of that group of tracks.

"Creeping Jean" is an all-time track for me, would have been very high in my ballot if I'd voted here

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 12 August 2019 20:20 (one week ago) link

whoa, I did not know abt these old Dave tracks

sleeve, Monday, 12 August 2019 20:30 (one week ago) link

just realized the last track on the “hidden treasures” comp is a spider john koerner cover !

budo jeru, Monday, 12 August 2019 22:32 (one week ago) link

also, does anybody know if the tracks collected here are available elsewhere, in print and preferably legally ?

i think i used to have the mp3s somewhere but not anymore and i wouldn’t mind investing in a physical disc

budo jeru, Monday, 12 August 2019 22:38 (one week ago) link

Seems like a bunch of those have been spread out as bonus tracks on expanded/deluxe editions.

Several are also on The Great Lost Kinks Album (Kink Kronicles sequel the Ray had pulled after the initial pressing).

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 August 2019 22:52 (one week ago) link

it’s mostly the demo stuff (particularly “tell me now so i’ll know”) that i’m after

budo jeru, Monday, 12 August 2019 23:03 (one week ago) link

Ok, based on the fine-to-good Something Else and the so-far-incredible Arthur, there's a clear moment when this band became great - TKATVGPS.

imago, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:21 (one week ago) link

if you haven't heard Face To Face, I think that's where the greatness begins fwiw

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:23 (one week ago) link

I won't leave it out! Arthur is just next-level though for all sorts of reasons

imago, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:27 (one week ago) link

esp "Shangri-La" :)

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:27 (one week ago) link

yes sir, no sir is a personal fave from arthur
i will also stan for sleepwalker but i know it's not esp popular

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:33 (one week ago) link

good to know, i have that one but I don't think I've re-listened in a long time

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:34 (one week ago) link

It’s fun and funny (Life on the Road), has at least one jam (Mr Big), and the whole thing isn’t great but the songs I love are among my fave Kinks songs. Sleepwalker, Jukebox Music come to mind. It’s a fun rock album. I keep it in my car bc it’s perfect for listening to while driving.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:51 (one week ago) link

I basically spent an entire summer as a teenager listening to VGPS on repeat and playing old Zelda games

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:55 (one week ago) link

I thought Village Green was the one album I could never wear out, though I have, kinda. Still the only album I've regularly listened to in every decade of my life. (save 0-9).

bendy, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:09 (one week ago) link

I’m with UMS on Some Mother’s Son. Just devastating and flawless the way he moves back and forth through the three different viewpoints/time periods of the song (mother of young child, soldier, parents of fallen soldier).

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:16 (one week ago) link

the bridge of shangri-la is monumental

imago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:34 (one week ago) link

imago - you’ve heard “See My Friends” and “Autumn Almanac” right? There are so many singles comps and bonus track editions now that I’m not sure what you find where.

JoeStork, Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:45 (one week ago) link

This thread revive has got me revisiting the peak-era albums over the past week, right now I'm thinking Arthur is their best.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:47 (one week ago) link

that seems pretty clear to me too

autumn almanac obviously mega-classic and long-beknownst to me, dunno why I didn't check out the albums sooner

imago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:48 (one week ago) link

timely message in arthur concerning the british tendency to genuflect before wealth and power even as it destroys you. quite dispiriting that he ended up accepting a knighthood

imago, Thursday, 15 August 2019 15:51 (one week ago) link


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