#20
― It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
or #30
― It's sad he was a blogger (symsymsym), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
parsley sage rosemary and thyme
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
i know it's like the oldest song ever so it's extra-good but i don't get it
scarb fair obv
― Lamp, Friday, March 23, 2012 5:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
something something museum
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
ol museum voice garfunkel
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
hahah
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
the smithsonian-voiced garfunkel
Eazy how can u hate the "you can call me al" video? is this a thing? like when everybody turned out to hate "50 ways to leave your lover"? you guys hate fun.
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
love museums
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
it's not a bad song at all but why did "hazy shade of winter" make this poll? what happened? i am confused.
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
People heard the Bangles' outstanding version?
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
It's a mirror poll of the same songs from the Paul Simon poll. Not saying that all of them are the worst, but your worst song from the poll.
poll poll poll
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
today I'm feeling the hate for "Al" because of the too-much-horn-section, the stupid rhymy-wymy chorus and if I think too hard about it the whole thing just makes no sense
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
and stupid short Paul Simon walking around with that smug look on his face like he's twice as tall as he really is. that 'who me?' face annoys me today.
ask me in a week and I'll tell you why I love it.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
has anyone ever come across what the titular Al (and Betty) are a reference to? this always befuddled me as a kid.
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
it's what Simon and Chase called each other in private.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
it implies forced intimacy borne of desperation is the way i break it down to an extent
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
zzz
:)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
No idea, always assumed he was just going for names that had that kind of familiar-nickname feel, like a long-lost pal would call you. Reminds me both of George Costanza wanting to be called "T-bone," and the Cheers theme song.
I don't think either "Al" or "Betty" is quite the perfect name for "Lemme introduce you to this guy! This guy, I've known him my whole life, we grew up together" etc., but they fit the meter well, and Al rhymes with "pal."
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
I skip "Al" whenever I play Graceland because when I saw Simon in early '91 he played it twice back to back, therefore obviating any need to hear it again.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
it just feels like a big advertising jingle when I'm in the mood to hate it
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
how dare u VG frankly, i think betty&al sound like an old married couple which is interesting like longing for that intimacy but willing setting for best friend
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i always thought it sounded like betty and al were a little older, a little more settled in their identities than the speaker of the song. or that that was what the names meant to him
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
sort of playing at that is what im feeling like nbd just a lark except not really, laughing at oneself
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
for the longest time I thought it was some kind of movie reference (ie two friends pretending to be a famous couple) but I could never figure out who it was... in retrospect it's probably more akin to Woody and Tony Roberts calling each other "Max" in Annie Hall
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
Some guys on some forum said this, which amused me:
"It was a private joke between PS and his then wife [Peggy]. Apparently, a celebrity guest/hanger-on was taking his leave from one of their parties and called them "Betty & Al". They were so amused by this that they kept the names for a while. (Hazy recollection from a TV interview)"
"the celebrity guest was Pierre Boulez, conductor and composer."
― Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
The names in the song came from an incident at a party that Simon went to with his then-wife Peggy Harper. French composer and conductor Pierre Boulez, who was attending the same party, mistakenly referred to Paul as "Al" and to Peggy as "Betty", inspiring Simon to write a song.[3]
Wikipedia provides the answer.
Oh the japes
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
ugh writers' real lives are so annoying. i prefer jho's interp.
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
*smug grin*
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
Peggy and Simon divorced in '75 = he sat on that song for 10 years?
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
btw i want the coat paul simes is wearing in the poll picture/on the cover of paul simon
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
I think you also kind of want to be balding and short if we're being real, horseshoe :)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
i am halfway there tbh
― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Simes/100003268104997
― buzza, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
I was listening to newer Graceland-era Paul Simon in the car on the way to work and Mr Veg said he finds the later Paul Simon stuff annoyingly over produced, like too many instruments and big loud drums and everything's all kind of weirdly mechanical sounding...and I've kind of been noticing it on some songs. I think it's why the Boy In The Bubble nags at me.
figured this was as good a place as any to mention that.
(runs away)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Friday, March 23, 2012 7:21 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
these coats are widely available, u r in luck!
― lag∞n, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
for the longest time I thought it was some kind of movie reference (ie two friends pretending to be a famous couple)
Yeah, it definitely FEELS that way too - - - reminds me of, like, "Key Largo" by Bertie Higgins. ("Just like Bogey and Bacall")
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Friday, March 23, 2012 10:50 PM (Yesterday)
whitney tate hermitage and dia
― judith, Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
'shoe, I take it back. Chevy Chase on the wrong day is just Chevy Chase on the wrong day, but the video's fine.
― "Flashy...hip" (Eazy), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
i wish i could vote for hazy shade of winter AND museum of herbs but i only have one vote.
― judith, Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
museum of herbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oE5dkTanms
― ralphs vons williams (get bent), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brfZx0NA-oM
― ralphs vons williams (get bent), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
OMIGOD I remember those commercials
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
looool museum of herbs
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, the herb campaign was bk's answer to "where's the beef"
― ralphs vons williams (get bent), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 26 March 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
I hate "I Am A Rock". So that.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 March 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
dr.
― horseshoe, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
59th st was also a camp song for me. Fast triplet da's are awkward for a chorus of 11-year-olds to sing.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
I came here to vote for "Loves Me Like a Rock", but didn't find it so I went for "The Obvious Child" instead.
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
just listening to hazy shade of winter and its p funny, look around leaves are brown theres a patch of snow on the ground DONT U SEE
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
and yet you voted Cecilia
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
all of you people saying "Scarborough Fair" are disgusting Philistines who don't deserve music
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
ty
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
but "Scarborough Fair" is from an earlier century when ppl and their art was lol ridiculous
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
sorry ;_;
― horseshoe, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
DJP OTM
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
ive been listening to the songs from the poll that i wasnt intimately familiar with and lets just say that my fondness for s&g hasnt really bloomed during this period of exploration
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
re "hazy shade of winter": i find the naivete sort of endearing. a young man in an act of self-important "wisdom" trying to say something serious abt what it must like to be old. young people do this a lot, especially the poetic ones, but they seldom attach their instructive musings to such glorious music.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
its a cool song dont get me wrong, the silliness works
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
its a p exciting song tbh
the 12-string guitar riff is like a perfect Rubber Soul/Revolver knockoff
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
in fairness, I was in a concert yesterday where we sang this (note: that is one of my old college groups, not the group I sing with now) so basically anybody doing anything polyrhythmic with counterpoint and stacking vocal harmonies is basically going to get a vigorous defending from me unless of course the ppl doing it are terrible
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
ILX not feelin' groovy
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
#03 - ME AND JULIO DOWN BY THE SCHOOLYARD 1
troll?
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
I feel okay that Al tied for 3rd
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBQxG0Z72qM
feel like this vid shouldve dispelled any and all bad will towards 'feelin' groovy' which is just too slight and goofy 2 really h8 imo
― Lamp, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
<3 Paul looks like he's going to bust up laughing at any moment
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
jus a lil song abt gettin mad lifted everyone be cool
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
the true answer is prob one of the ones w/zero votes
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
who doesnt love feelin groovy i ask you that
jho which s&g songs if any did u like?
― Lamp, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
I discovered that Smothers Brothers clip a few months ago--love it so much, especially the madman look on Tommy's face.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
out of the s&g songs on the list i wasnt familiar w/which actually is not that many so long frank lloyd wright spoke to me
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
FEELIN' GROOVY I can understand but I think you suck if you think the worst song is SCARBOROUGH FAIR/CANTICLE or 50 WAYS TO LEAVE YOUR LOVER
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
not that I voted in this or the real poll but #1 Graceland is pretty boring for me
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
we all could of guessed that.
― estela, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 09:34 (twelve years ago) link
I think you suck if you think the worst song is SCARBOROUGH FAIR
.. except if you had to song this damn song OVER AND OVER AGAIN as part of Folk Group at school. Which was pre-this album.
But, I'm over it, so do not hate this now.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really think any of you suck.
I never really bothered to differentiate all the lyrics to Scarborough Fair so if lyrics are the reason why people dislike that song than so be it. I don't think the lyrics are strong enough to illicit a negative response though
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
or weak enough for that matter
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
#29 - HOMEWARD BOUND 0It's nice to know you're all sane.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
(xpp then* elicit*)
― we gotta move these refrigerators (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link