"flesh" is dope imo
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 June 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
wait till you get to the last two songs, crypto
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 June 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
"flesh" is sooo good
there are so many *songs* here, consider for instance "waves" and "hollywood dreams"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 26 June 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
the songs are masterpieces of deceptively casual understatement and pacing, i've only had this 5 days and i've already played it like 20 times
― j., Friday, 26 June 2015 18:35 (eight years ago) link
coffee in the morningcoffee in the morningcoffee in the morningcoffee in the morning
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 June 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
The second half of "waves" is exhilarating. Paid this dust in the wake of CRJ but am excited to return to it this weekend.
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link
yes...I...paid this dust...as well...you know me...always paying dust...
― some dude, Saturday, 27 June 2015 00:48 (eight years ago) link
http://lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_events/first-listen-live-miguel-june-30th-2015/
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 June 2015 05:40 (eight years ago) link
this is the best album ever
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link
if you mean the best album made by Miguel since 2013, then sure
― some dude, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
lol when i'm listening to it it feels like the best thing in the world, so much depth and color
i tentatively think it's better than kaleidoscope dream
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
Only on my first play and some of it sounds a bit laboured in the way that Kaleidoscope Dream never did, but Hollywood Dreams and NWA really stood out.
Haha okay I just got to the second half of Leaves and I *really* wasn't expecting it to turn into 1979 by the Smashing Pumpkins.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
ugh http://www.npr.org/event/music/416451780/first-listen-live-watch-miguel-perform-wildheart-in-concert-on-june-30
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link
Flesh really reminds me of parts of the last Beyonce album, it's a so-so piece of songwriting but consistently engaging because of the *performance*, particularly Miguel's willingness to explore as many facets of his voice as possible (fragile falsetto, lascivious growl, full-throated Marvin swoop, stadium rock holler, overlapping clouds of mini-Migs). It's astonishing.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 08:10 (eight years ago) link
this is v good
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link
lol finally hearing "1979" in "leaves"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link
Although I liked the P-Fork review, this constant pairing of Miguel and Frank Ocean is so tiresome.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:31 (eight years ago) link
otm
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
Maybe I'm just being really uncharitable in my reading of that review, but to me it came off as "Miguel's high-concept experimenting is here to save us from all that loathsome R&B" in some places.
― Greer, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
A good review though otherwise. I particularly enjoyed the explanation of what makes Miguel's sexual come-ons seem so much less gross/more tolerable than his counterparts.
― Greer, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
It's true that Migs mitigates his aggression with a gosh-darn cuteness, but I don't get how this review and Caramanica's the other day assert that the "divide" in Miguel's "soul" is any different from Usher, MJ, Marvin Gaye, or whatever.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 15:06 (eight years ago) link
market positioning
― maura, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link
the show last night was incredible, btw.
― maura, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:14 (eight years ago) link
reading reviews of this record has reminded me of why i dislike references to other artists and albums in music criticism; a lot of times they show off the limitations of the writers' knowledge base when the opposite is probably intended.
― maura, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link
i'm gonna need more time with this; first listen or two is not demolishing me. same was true for much of kaleidoscope tho', so maybe it's just exposure. coffee is a likely top ten single tho'.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
^^
Finally, someone else who isn't immediately blown away by this. Only difference is that I seem to remember liking all of Kaleidoscope Dream pretty much instantly.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
bonus tracks are pretty dece! like, easily worthy of inclusion & not all all throwaway like i was half-expecting
cannot stop listening to coffee though
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link
I wasn't blown away by it at first either. Few albums do.
I stopped listening to "Coffee" because if I hadn't it's all I'd be listening to.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
it doesn't really work for me until "The Valley"; after that it's terrific
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:50 (eight years ago) link
tbf, i'm spinning between this and several other albums simultaneously; shouldn't opine until i have some focused listening time most likely
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link
some of this is very good, though the rock touches on the opener turn me off a lot and almost made me stop listening tbh
― marcos, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
i've only heard the first third so far, so reserving judgment
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
not much new to add: I don't love this yet ("Coffee" aside) but I may well get there eventually.
When he sings/says "Santa Monica Boulevard" at the end of "Hollywood Dreams" I always think of Sheryl Crow.
― List of people who are ready for woe and how we know this (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I think the first three tracks taken together are fairly deal isn't bad but the arrangement feels flimsy, whereas the others feel simultaneously sluggish and weedy.
Really takes off from Coffee onwards, mind.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 22:29 (eight years ago) link
this tweet may be the key to unlocking for fence sitters https://twitter.com/ietyler/status/616298059350151168
― 龜, Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link
Tyler Adams @ietyler 7h7 hours ago
I shouldn't be reading music reviews anyway but people frame "All I Want Is You" as a "lukewarm" or inconsistent album and that's incorrect.
^^ otm
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:34 (eight years ago) link
IAWIY is probably still the best R&B album of the decade imho unless i'm forgetting something obvious. DDM you could call R&B i guess.
― wisdom be leakin out my louche douche truths (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
yeah it's a masterpiece
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
hard to imagine growing to love any of the first three tracks... here's hoping
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
i purposely avoided gorging myself on "coffee" when it came out so i could preserve my appreciation for the album context. what a song. "old souls have found a new religion"
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:19 (eight years ago) link
haha waves is awesome
― flopson, Thursday, 2 July 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link
yeah i kind of don't get this revisionist history about all i want is you being a commercial sop of some sort. is it because of j. cole?
― maura, Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link
tbh i think that narrative is 1/2 people who slept on "Sure Thing" etc and 1/2 Miguel himself downplaying the debut when promoting Kaleidoscope Dream
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKvhkcJDbzY
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:43 (eight years ago) link
I like the new album and the last one a lot but the fact remains that several years ago miguel sang a lto of off-key hooks on terrible songs
"Lotus Flower Bomb" is the only bad one and even that is mainly bad because of Wale
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 04:51 (eight years ago) link
quickie is bad too, even sure thing isn't great
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:22 (eight years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/39/f6/6f/39f66f7fc4f3f83f716b782e350f160d.jpg
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 05:34 (eight years ago) link
pffffft
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 06:04 (eight years ago) link
also "sure thing" is incredible obv