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I Can See for Miles 27
I Can't Reach You 16
Armenia City in the Sky 13
Our Love Was 6
Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand 6
Tattoo 5
Odorono 1
Relax 1
Medac 1
Heinz Baked Beans 1
Rael (1 and 2) 1
Silas Stingy 0
Sunrise 0


dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:08 (nine years ago) link

This is my favorite Who album by a long shot

harmonies 'n' novelties

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:09 (nine years ago) link

would love to see SIlas Stingy or Relax walk this but it won't happen
money money moneybags

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:09 (nine years ago) link

I like the Patra Haden albumn where she does a capella covers of these songs, too.

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:10 (nine years ago) link

Petra?

So we have five months to chose?

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:17 (nine years ago) link

well tbh the album is five months long

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:18 (nine years ago) link

First pick is "Our Love Was" but I will wait a few months to see if I still feel the same

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:19 (nine years ago) link

always liked the US title of the song -- "Our Love Was, Is"

but this is "I Can't Reach You" for me

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:23 (nine years ago) link

"Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand"

timellison, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:23 (nine years ago) link

one of my favorite albums ever!

Tattoo might be the greatest thing Townshend (or anybody) ever wrote

gospodin simmel, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:25 (nine years ago) link

"I Can't Reach You"--probably the first song I'd turn to if I had to explain the Who's brilliance from '65 to '67 to someone.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:27 (nine years ago) link

But if "I Can See for Miles" or "Tattoo" were to win, that'd be fine.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:29 (nine years ago) link

yeah, I Can't Reach You/I Can See for Miles/Tattoo for top 3

gospodin simmel, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:31 (nine years ago) link

Greatest thing the Who ever did was their cover of "Man with the Money." It's the male bonding of "I'm a Boy" taken even farther and remembering the brother in jail.

timellison, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:34 (nine years ago) link

Hard to choose. best who album by far. Kind of leaning towards Rael

lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:41 (nine years ago) link

always loved "sunrise" even tho it's kinda barely what you think of when you think of the who.

tylerw, Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:02 (nine years ago) link

yes! "sometimes I wonder if this will go on my life through".

lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:04 (nine years ago) link

best who album, totally out of the classic rock canon except for "i can see for miles" so it still seems fresh when you first listen to it

buzza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:30 (nine years ago) link

More than any other Who record, this has the songs that people react to with, "That's the Who?!"

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:25 (nine years ago) link

I heard this after absorbing Who's Next and their 12/17/82 Toronto show (I taped the radio broadcast, and wore out said tape when I was 10). It was so strikingly (and hilariously -- they were the funniest band of their era) different to what I knew them to be, but was unmistakably the Who. I remember thinking, "I think we'll be seeing a lot more of each other over the next 20 years or so."

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:33 (nine years ago) link

Mono mix of "Our Love Was," with Daltrey singing co-lead with Townshend, and a pedal steel (!) solo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxOEcvtQaEM

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:34 (nine years ago) link

outtake "Jaguar," on which Moon sings lead. Moon and Townshend got in a huge fight about whether or not this would go on the record. Townshend won, hence "Sunrise."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwD3OvMTq8A

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:36 (nine years ago) link

Armenia

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:49 (nine years ago) link

'Odorono'... while The Beatles were singing about Lucy in the sky, The Stones were asking where the joint was, and The Kinks were singing about Waterloo sunsets, The Who were writing songs about chicks with stinky armpits.

Turrican, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:03 (nine years ago) link

Voted "Relax" for the same reason I'd vote "Blue Jay Way" on MMT. These days I'm a sucker for droney British keyboard psych.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:57 (nine years ago) link

I heard this after absorbing Who's Next and their 12/17/82 Toronto show

I'm trying to figure out if I was at that show or not. I've still got the ticket stub for May 6, 1980 at Maple Leaf Gardens. I'm positive I saw them once more, but I thought it was earlier, which doesn't seem to be the case checking around online. So that may have been the other time.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:57 (nine years ago) link

IIRC, back in the ancient times of AOR, none of these tracks ever got played on the radio at all except "I Can See For Miles." Whereas practically every track on Who's Next got played all the time and "Won't Get Fooled Again" would always top the annual listeners poll on WNEW-FM in NYC.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:08 (nine years ago) link

Hm, I guess it was only number 6 in 1987 The 1987 WNEW-FM Top 1027 Songs of All Time Listener's Poll

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:22 (nine years ago) link

I've never heard anything from Who Sell Out other than "I Can See for Miles" on the radio, not even once. But I don't think I've ever heard a non-hit from any of the early albums on the radio, so it may not be any different from everything pre-Tommy in that regard. Album tracks are reserved for Who's Next, Tommy, and Quadrophenia.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Yes, exactly. But also Who Are You, no?

Continuing on this radio theme I came across something about Scott Muni just now with a funny story about a John Entwistle interview. Also some other stuff including a great quote from Rosko.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:28 (nine years ago) link

Meant to post the link, which is here: http://www.areuonsomething.com/features_muni.html

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:29 (nine years ago) link

If you can ever find this, it's got all (or at least most) of the original radio spots on Who Sell Out:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pEb54b5pL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:29 (nine years ago) link

Never saw that website before. Seems old school and a little cheesy, will probably hurt the eyes of most posters here. Sorry, ILX!

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:31 (nine years ago) link

On a totally non-Sell Out note, Keith Moon's solo record is pretty damn silly and entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HlMIhR6ckQ

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:45 (nine years ago) link

Never actually got around to hearing the Petra Haden version. Let me see what I can find on the intranetz.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (nine years ago) link

i've been listening to this lately, and getting to like parts of it, but a lot of it seems so thin. in comparison to 'miles', which is MASSIVE.

j., Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:52 (nine years ago) link

There was one track on a magazine sampler, and I ordered the CD on the back of that (only five times, maybe, that's happened)

A few places she mispronounces lyrics, as she did this purely by having the album on two tracks of a multitrack, and vocalising on all the others. (She''d not heard it before)

As you say upthread, I'd not heard any of the tracks anyplace apart from 'c4miles', until I found the double-lp version with 'quick one' for inexpensive...

The mono, eh? Will have to track it down. I know 'quick one' came out on CD in mono at first, then they found the stereo master tape and reissued it without fanfare or changing the packaging at all.

Mark G, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:59 (nine years ago) link

I remember the first time I heard the album "Sunrise" really sounding spookily beautiful.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:01 (nine years ago) link

"Sunrise" was a bit of a setlist surprise to me when I saw them in 1982.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:07 (nine years ago) link

http://open.spotify.com/album/5jSo2xyFarf1dPsn1mwnw6
Would also like to hear some of those albums she and her siblings did with her dad of old country tunes and such. Speaking of whom, did you end up going to see Ravi Coltrane with the Jensen sisters, clemenza? I saw him once with Charlie Haden's Quartet West (although he called it "Quartet East" that night) and it was pretty cool.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:08 (nine years ago) link

No, unfortunately--a lot of marking that weekend, and the one friend who might've gone with me wasn't interested.

I've been listening to that pirate-radio compilation I posted above. Very disorienting for anyone who knows Sell Out well. Hearing the "It's smooth sailing with the highly successful sound" spot, you automatically transition to "Me and my brother were talkin' to each other" in your mind; here, the spot leads into the Sorrows' "Take a Heart."

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:21 (nine years ago) link

I've heard a lot of live Who, but can't recall them ever doing many songs from Sell Out which is a damn shame. That free-form feedback delay freak-out in the middle of Relax is a wonder to hear.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:26 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, that was cool. I've heard they do "Tatoo" sometimes

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:29 (nine years ago) link

Other than "I Can See For Miles," which they almost never played live until the 80s, the only songs from Sell Out that made it into their shows were "Tattoo" (through 1974, and a handful of times on the 1982 tour); "Relax" (on their 1968 tours, and last played as part of an end-of-show improvisation in 1976); and "Mary Anne With The Shaky Hands" (played a few times on the 1989 tour).

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:46 (nine years ago) link

I guess I misremembered the show I saw (Birmingham AL, Nov 1982) -- they played "Tattoo" but not "Sunrise," according to thewholive.net

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:49 (nine years ago) link

I was gonna say, I'd never heard of them ever doing "Sunrise" live. I think Pete's done it once or twice in his solo shows, though.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:50 (nine years ago) link

Big fans of "The Who Sell Out" should check out the live at the Fillmore East 1968 collection. The set list at that point was from this LP. 'Relax' is a definite highlight of the set.

earlnash, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:57 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Miles is kind of a weak song really but it’s such a mind blowing track

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:15 (five months ago) link

Very surprised to see the love for tattoo here, i always thought that and silas stingy were the obvious duds on this otherwise-perfect album

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:26 (five months ago) link

Me and my brother were talking to each other, and we 100% agree on "Silas Stingy" but think "Tattoo" is perfect.

clemenza, Monday, 23 November 2020 15:35 (five months ago) link

ha, mostly i just cant get over "i expect i'll regret you but the skin graft man wont get you", an all-time groaner of a rhyme

but tbf if id voted i might have honestly gone odorono so i might be nuts

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:48 (five months ago) link

What? "Tattoo" is great and the skin graft line is great too!

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:54 (five months ago) link

lol come on now, wtf is the skin graft man up to ffs? is he sneaking around stealing peoples skin?? also i just hate being made to picture skin grafts when im trying to enjoy rock music

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 16:00 (five months ago) link

Armenia robbed. Love it so much, wish they played it live (or at least on an official release).

Ape Hole Road (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 November 2020 16:55 (five months ago) link

For someone regarded (at one time, anyway) as one of the Great Rock Lyricists, Townshend uses a lot of dubious rhymes, silly imagery and forced concepts.

I've always liked the grotesquerie of Silas Stingy; it's like a Dickens story animated by Terry Gilliam.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:15 (five months ago) link

That's Entwistle, though.

Mark G, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:45 (five months ago) link

I know, the first paragraph was responding to the conversation about Tattoo, the second about Silas Stingy.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:55 (five months ago) link

I assumed you knew, just clarified for the boys and girls.

Mark G, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:57 (five months ago) link

lol come on now, wtf is the skin graft man up to ffs

Talking of clairfication. He's covering up the tattoo obviously, the point being that the narrator is going to wear his tattoo proudly all his life. In which case, I don't see the problem with the lyric.

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:02 (five months ago) link

Not covering up so much as removing and then grafting skin where the tattoo used to be.

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:04 (five months ago) link

yeah i get what hes saying is "i wont go to the skin graft man", but "the skin graft man wont get you" is such an unfortunate phrasing to my ears, that makes it sound like the skin graft man wants to take the tattoo, like the tattoo is in peril due to this man who wants skin. just a weird weird line imo.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:13 (five months ago) link

it’s a bit of a mouthful, is my issue with “the skin graft man won’t get you”, too many consonants in a row

brimstead, Monday, 23 November 2020 21:04 (five months ago) link

The Who, like all them Brit Invasion bands, wanted to be amusing as they were a silly pop band. And they were all very good at it until about 1970, when rock became serious art. The lack of concern for posterity is what separates 60s rock from 70s. Sun's not yellow, it's chicken, etc.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 23 November 2020 22:34 (five months ago) link

I used to think of "I Can See For Miles" as a pretty good song that I wasn't particularly into, but for some reason one day when there was an early, heavy snowfall and I had to drive all the way across town on summer tires to pick up my winter ones and it was an absolutely terrifying slow crawl through one icy intersection after another, I found myself singing "I Can See For Miles" over and over again as I drove, as a meaningless but reassuring mantra. No idea why that song of all songs popped into my head, but now I feel more affection for it.

Lily Dale, Monday, 23 November 2020 22:51 (five months ago) link

The Who, like all them Brit Invasion bands, wanted to be amusing as they were a silly pop band. And they were all very good at it until about 1970, when rock became serious art. The lack of concern for posterity is what separates 60s rock from 70s. Sun's not yellow, it's chicken, etc.


“Squeeze Box,” “My Wife,” “Waspman,” “Bell Boy,” “Now I’m A Farmer,” “Postcard,” and “Success Story” are all 1970 and later. And even the non-silly tunes (“Who Are You,” say) are flecked with humor. Hell, the song “Teenage Wasteland” from the sci-fi opera about music so intense that it makes people disappear has the line, “Hey you! Don’t step on the turnips!” No half-lidded ‘luded-out slothful po-faced heaviness from these guys; that was Floyd’s and Zep’s territory.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:43 (five months ago) link

Sheep from Animals and The Crunge from Houses of the Holy are just two of several funny 70s songs by Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 November 2020 23:50 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

Tracklist here https://shop.thewho.com/products/the-who-sell-out-super-deluxe-box-set

Out of the 112 tracks, the only ones I've never heard in any form/didn't know existed are the Sunn Amps spot, "Facts of Life" (an Entwistle tune), and "Inside Outside USA."

Disc 4 is a convenient clearinghouse for their '68 studio recordings, but disc 3 -- studio sessions with chatter and such -- is what I'm really looking forward to.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:53 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

New documentary on Sell Out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXU3y-7gF0

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 April 2021 15:20 (two weeks ago) link

"I'm an Ear Sitting in the Sky" <= is that for real?

Josefa, Saturday, 24 April 2021 00:48 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry, Pete, I'm not buying that one. I didn't think this was very good.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 April 2021 10:24 (two weeks ago) link

Awesome little documentary !

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 April 2021 12:23 (two weeks ago) link

The footage of Townshend and the band explaining the concept of the album to John Peel and then playing him an acetate (I assume) of "Odorono" wsa definitely something I'd never seen before!

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 April 2021 12:57 (two weeks ago) link

"I'm an Ear Sitting in the Sky" <= is that for real?

― Josefa, Friday, April 23, 2021 8:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yep. Pete first mentioned in a 1979 interview that Speedy Keen called him right after Sell Out's release to say, "No, no, it's 'I'm An Ear'!" But in the new documentary, Pete says Keen called Pete "years later."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:40 (two weeks ago) link

The odd thing about the documentary is that they spend more time on songs that weren't on the record -- "Jaguar," the Coke ads -- than on songs that were, like "I Can't Reach You," which itself goes unmentioned.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:43 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe serious Who fans knew this already but it was news to me that Speedy Kean is singing co-lead on "Armenia" - for ages I wondered why that particular vocal sounded so weird.

Josefa, Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:54 (two weeks ago) link

I'm mildly tempted to poll 'I Can See for Miles' vs 'Helter Skelter' aka the heaviest songs evah.

pomenitul, Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:55 (two weeks ago) link

Keen isn't singing co-lead; that other vocal track is Daltrey sped up. The engineer in the documentary was wrong.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:58 (two weeks ago) link

Really, wow. Wikipedia is wrong on that too.

Josefa, Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:01 (two weeks ago) link

"Anyone Who's Anyone" by Sloan is an interesting pastiche of this song, similarly sung at the top of the singer's range.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:03 (two weeks ago) link

Wikipedia's also wrong about "Jaguar" -- that's Keith singing lead (with Pete taking lead on "the radio's blasting..." etc.).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:08 (two weeks ago) link

I note that this is the third Classic Albums episode about The Who.

piscesx, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:04 (two weeks ago) link

And there's also the 2012 Quadrophenia documentary, by far the best of all the Who album documentaries (sadly, no longer on YouTube, and never issued in a physical format).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:15 (two weeks ago) link

Bradley’s Barn?!

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:44 (two weeks ago) link

Yep. “Our Love Was,” “Relax,” “Someone’s Coming,” and “Mary Anne With The Shaky Hand” were all completed at Bradley’s Barn on August 17, 1967, during a day off from their tour with Herman’s Hermits. These had all been started in London about a month earlier. While on tour in the US, Kit Lambert would book them into studios on days off to try to get the record finished. They also recorded in NYC, where Al Kooper played organ on “Relax” and “Rael”; and at Gold Star in LA where they took advantage of that studio’s echo chamber for the harmony vocals on “I Can See For Miles.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 19:39 (two weeks ago) link

Damn--went to watch that tonight and it was gone.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 02:15 (one week ago) link

If you can't find it drop me a pm ;)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:58 (one week ago) link

Thanks to CJV for getting this to me, enjoyed it. Only quibble is that my favourite song, "I Can't Reach You," doesn't get mentioned (unless I missed it).

I liked Daltrey at the mixing board listening to demos and fragments. His expression is somewhere between bemusement and intrigue. Reminded me of Dylan in the Scorsese documentary, when he says something about not knowing where those '65/66 songs came from: "I can do other things now, but I can't do that."

clemenza, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:03 (one week ago) link

"I Can't Reach You," doesn't get mentioned (unless I missed it).

Nope, no mention of it...but lots of talk about songs that didn't get released until 20+ years later.

My favorite moment in the documentary -- and one of my favorite moments in all Who films, documentaries, etc. -- is Daltrey singing along with "Tattoo."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:09 (one week ago) link

Yes, my fave moment as well. And he sounds excellent!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:55 (one week ago) link

His voice has held up extraordinarily well. He went through some problems with a pre-cancerous growth on his vocal cords around '06-'09 (his performances from those years are decidedly hit-or-miss), but after surgery he sounded great. I'd argue that he sounds stronger on 2019's WHO than on any record (live or studio) since Who Are You.

A recent reissue of WHO includes a bonus disc of a 2020 acoustic show, and the version of "Tattoo" on it is stunning.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 April 2021 17:35 (one week ago) link

Best thing on the CD release is Melancholia,

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:33 (one week ago) link

Take 1? Demo?

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:42 (one week ago) link

dunno, I think the demo is on Scoop

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 1 May 2021 17:47 (one week ago) link

In addition to the master take, there’s an early run-through of “Melancholia” on the box, with Pete doing a guide vocal. And yep, Pete’s solo demo is on Scoop; in that album’s liner notes, he says he doubts the Who ever heard the song, forgetting that they’d recorded it.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:18 (one week ago) link


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