I actually haven't heard take this to your grave
Feel free to :/
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
:/
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
i still have this on my itunes :S
'what a catch' almost w/o hesitation but now im thinking mb i should relisten to it
― Lamp, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
Is 'evening out with your girlfriend' worth a spin?
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
someday i'll appreciate in valueget off my ass and call you
but for the meantime i'll sport my brand new fashionof waking up with pants on at 4:00 in the afternoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khb1bmJmhVQ
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
never listened :/
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
just realized that the 'nobody puts baby in a corner' line is "i keep my jealous close / cause" and not "i keep my jealousy cross-court"
also, total thread derail.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ pete wentz pretending he can sing in that video
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
totally, but i also think it's interesting how the same band that made folie a deux, three albums prior, just really wanted to make a record as good as the get up kids' four minute mile
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
everybody otm about pete wentz's lyrics
'i will never end up like him / behind my back, i already am'
also:
"preach electric to the microphone stand" is a pretty good lyric imo.― dayo, Wednesday, September 1, 2010 6:13 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
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― dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
w.a.m.s is a deep album cut
― dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
After a couple more listens, you guys are right: this album is actually great. Much more ambitious and sophisticated than Cork Tree. Great vocal performance.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
amazing perfect classic songs, could vote for any of these:1. "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes" 4:176. "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" 3:197. "(Coffee's for Closers)" 4:35
also great but on a slightly lower tier: 4. "America's Suitehearts" 3:3410. "Tiffany Blews" 3:4412. "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" 4:17
good but I have to be in the mood for them:5. "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet" 3:549. "27" 3:1211. "w.a.m.s." 4:3813. "West Coast Smoker" 2:46
don't especially like but still wouldn't skip past if not in a hurry: 2. "I Don't Care" 3:343. "She's My Winona" 3:518. "What a Catch, Donnie" 4:51
― some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
i was all rmde at the guest appearances at the time but in retrospect it's so perfect for this to be the only album in history to feature both Elvis Costello and Lil Wayne
― some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
god "Coffee's For Closers" is ridiculous, i feel like not many songs keep up that kind of relentless pace of hook after hook for over 4 minutes
― some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
Totally. This must be OTM, btw, since I never heard any of these songs until today!:
if you look at the chart performance of the singles, i feel like there's a really clear arc of them doing well on rock radio, then pop radio too, then rock radio kind of abandoning them as 'too pop' and pop radio moving shortly after, so they went from crossover stars to not particularly welcome on either side of the gap in record time.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. That's really accurate. It sort of baffles me that pop radio had space for something like 'Arms Race' or 'Mmrs'
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
And shortly before that, the hey day of pop-punk - Good Charlotte, sum41, etc.
this is the best FOB they ever did, sort of crushes me that it wasn't the massive massive MASSIVE moneymachine chart hit it deserved to be. love everything on it except for "W.A.M.S" and "west coast smoker". the five-song run from "the (shipped) gold standard" through "tiffany blews" kills me every time. have a hard time picking between "i don't care", "(coffee's for closers)", "27" and "20 dollar nose bleed". but $20 just for the hell of it.
"This Ain't a Scene..." kind of turned me off.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, February 3, 2012 11:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so insane.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
"FOB they" = "thing FOB", or something
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
I'm downloading Infinity now.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
infinity and folie are weird in that they both offer up an astonishing pop-crossover attempt right off the bat ("this ain't a scene" and "i don't care") but then tread water for a while and really come into their own only about halfway through (with "thnks fr the mmrs" and "the (shipped) gold standard"). is it that they think the fans expect the more generic stuff and frontload with it for that reason, or that they know they're badass enough to hold their best shit for the home stretch?
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
kind of think you're alone in regarding the lead singles as some of the best things on the albums, and i definitely don't understand your view of the running orders in general (although FAD does get really great at the halfway mark)
― some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
"America's Suitehearts" probably could've been big since it's the closest they ever came to rewriting "Sugar, We're Going Down" but god that terrible video
― some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link
kind of think you're alone in regarding the lead singles as some of the best things on the albums...
― some dude, Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:22 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well, me and whoever picks lead singles
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
you can't even say 'critically underloved' bcz there are people like Maura Johnston etc who've consistently repped
Who apart from Maura/Al (& that ex-Idolator/current-Village Voice kind've crew), critic-wise, repped for this? FoB/MCR/etc seemed like such a huge critical blind spot for the Pitchfork umbrella*, and it's a shame that they're likely to undergo some sort of Hall & Oates**-style period of neglect before getting their dues.
* twentysomethings disdaining "teenage" music, etc** good reference point for Patrick Stump, actuallly
― etc, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:24 (twelve years ago) link
I repped for it but got onto the album too late to pitch to pitchfork; and I'm guessing scott p would have been conscious about running a late review and what that would have been perceived to mean, if I had pitched anyway.
― Tim F, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean i was one of the 6 voters the album got in Pazz & Jop in '08, which is more votes than a lot of albums got but by no means a major groundswell, and of course you have to play the 'what if' game with an album that dropped in mid-December
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:08 (twelve years ago) link
also one of the other voters (not Tim) writes for Pitchfork! but i really think they never would've run a review no matter who pitched it when, that's how they roll for better or worse
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
man, "she's my wynona" sticks in my head like nobody's business
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
Would it be fair to say that this was FOB's Hysteria (in artistic, not commercial, terms)?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
voted 'What A Catch' because the hook in that chorus, and Stump's vox...the whole thing still slays me.
and I get such a huge kick out of the arc of those 4 albums. Cork and Infinity kind of blend together for me, and then Grave and Folie are the nice raw/polished bookends. Love me some FOB.
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
wtf is this turnout
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
:,(
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
I forgot to vote, I think
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
saddest poll ever
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
I can't remember if I voted now! I thought I did. (However, I've been playing this almost constantly since I downloaded it. So the thread was definitely not a waste.)
Did two other people vote for "Coffee's for Closers"?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
i voted 'coffees 4 closers'
couldve easily voted 'headfirst slide' & cant blieve it got 0 votes
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
yah put me down for headfirst slide
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
i also thought i voted for "coffee's for closers"
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
but maybe i forgot to vote because i don't know anymore
yeah me too -- idk ilx polls can get wonky imo or else i just almost always forget to vote
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
i've been listening to 'cork tree' this week... cool record, def like it less than the two that followed tho. it's funny to hear them so pop punk, like some drum sounds that could be on a blink record, and then there's these two MASSIVE singles. "nobody puts baby in the corner" is my favorite song even tho it has some o__O lyrics all over the place... esp the outro
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
or i guess it's a bridge
I really like Infinity the more I listen to it...everything sounds so big & meaty
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
thx tthread for making me listen to and enjoy this rec, jerks
― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
anyway it's p sweet who knew not me
― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
cheerz
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
soon as we hit the HOSpiTAL i know we’re gonna leave this town
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 January 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link
Tell that boy I'll leave you alone, nowLike a stove I'll turn my love downSupra and the prophet are both in the business of souls^^love this part
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 January 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link
YOUR PUPILS! (big)BIG! (roll)THEY'RE ROLLING LIKE DICE!
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 26 February 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link