fall out boy - folie à deux poll

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Folie à Deux (English: "A Madness Shared by Two") is the fifth studio album by American rock band Fall Out Boy.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
7. "(Coffee's for Closers)" 4:35 2
8. "What a Catch, Donnie" 4:51 2
12. "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" 4:17 1
10. "Tiffany Blews" 3:44 1
9. "27" 3:12 1
1. "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes" 4:17 1
6. "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" 3:19 1
13. "West Coast Smoker" 2:46 1
5. "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet" 3:54 0
4. "America's Suitehearts" 3:34 0
3. "She's My Winona" 3:51 0
11. "w.a.m.s." 4:38 0
2. "I Don't Care" 3:34 0


johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:40 (five years ago) Permalink

i kind of have no idea which one to vote for

and yet i also know it's "(coffee's for closers)"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:41 (five years ago) Permalink

anyway best pop-rock record of however many years

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:42 (five years ago) Permalink

the high pts are v high, few clunkers but yeah

coffees for closers vs headfirst slide vs what a catch

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:44 (five years ago) Permalink

holy shit crunch, i was searching for a folie a deux poll today cuz i thought i had made one a while back

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:45 (five years ago) Permalink

man i have been jamming this album this week, what a weird coincidence

ANYWAY

1. the (shipped) gold standard
2. what a catch donnie
3. disloyal order of water buffaloes
4. headirst slide into cooperstown on a bad bet
5. w.a.m.s.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:47 (five years ago) Permalink

the back half of this album is kinda cool

"w.a.m.s." has that slick production and stump doing that weird blues thing at the end, "20 dollar nosebleed" is a cool horns & piano pop song, and there's the one that's kinda hair metal-y?

this album really rules... trying to think of any rock band in the past 5 or 6 years that has put out two consecutive albums as good as 'infinity on high' and this one -- i could think of a few that might come close

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:49 (five years ago) Permalink

huh yeah id thought i remembered one before too but idk

yeah i still play these songs A LOT

also, it's just weird but like the ~concept~ of folie a deux has been in my mind for a few months ever since i've seen this http://youtu.be/Euy6vE5VsMQ - i just think it's cool these guys (prob solely pat stump?) knew it was a thing or w/e

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:52 (five years ago) Permalink

this album really rules... trying to think of any rock band in the past 5 or 6 years that has put out two consecutive albums as good as 'infinity on high' and this one -- i could think of a few that might come close

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 3, 2012 9:49 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gaslight anthem?

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:56 (five years ago) Permalink

enh

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:00 (five years ago) Permalink

"20 dollar nosebleed" is a cool horns & piano pop song

which sort of launches from the style of panic at the disco's pretty. odd / brendan urie guests on that particular track. kind of a neat synergistic fbr moment

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:02 (five years ago) Permalink

gaslight anthem?

― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Friday, February 3, 2012 9:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

my list would be like... titus andronicus, against me, los campesinos...

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:04 (five years ago) Permalink

i sorta miss all the metaness of 'infinity on high' but there's a lot of lyrical passages on this album that i find genuinely affecting, which is kinda weird seeing as they were written by freakin pete wentz

also identify with lots of the self-mocking here... like "you can only blame your problems on the world for so long / before it all becomes the same old song" is often hard to listen to

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:10 (five years ago) Permalink

something abt the lyric 'that time my dad called me a horseshoe crab' or w/e it is is a huge block for me in that song

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:13 (five years ago) Permalink

i've learned that ppl my age get really weirded out when they learn that you're super into recent fall out boy records

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:15 (five years ago) Permalink

it's "caught me a horeshoe crab"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:15 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah "my dad caught me a horseshoe crab / and i asked if throwing it in the sea would bring our luck back"

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:16 (five years ago) Permalink

also wentz really comes into his own as a lyric writer on this record. i love all the lyrics of "disloyal order"

Little girl, you got me staring odd
Or was that just a telescopic camera nod

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:16 (five years ago) Permalink

hah that i thought it was 'called me a horseshoe crab' all these yrs, im an idiot

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:19 (five years ago) Permalink

paranoid pete wentz unable to disassociate his relationships from celebrity > pete wentz who hates his girlfriend, definitely, much as i love take this to your grave

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:19 (five years ago) Permalink

never the same person when i go to sleep
as when i wake up
as when i wake up

god this record

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:21 (five years ago) Permalink

i have a thing for "tiffany blews"

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 4 February 2012 06:45 (five years ago) Permalink

"Coffee's for Closers" is really good (although I wish it were actually about Glengarry Glen Ross!). Is the whole album that good? I enjoyed From Under the Cork Tree but haven't kept up with anything since. "This Ain't a Scene..." kind of turned me off.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:41 (five years ago) Permalink

"Headfirst Slide..." is my favourite but I love basically everything on this album.

Tim F, Saturday, 4 February 2012 08:36 (five years ago) Permalink

anyway best pop-rock record of however many years

― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:42 AM

^^

Have to rep for "West Coast Smoker"'s thwomping bassline, mix of choral flourishes, hardcore snarl, and Debbie Harry's rasp - "Oh hell yes / I'm a nervous wreck / The drugs just make me reset"; it's probably that or "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" for me. Love "I Don't Care"'s repurposing that line from Nirvana's "Drain You" into a T-Rex style glam stomp.

Why did this album fail commercially / on the radio - bad choice of singles, moment passing, or ...? My editor & I repped really hard for this, but it seemed nobody heard it compared to Cork Tree/Infinity On High.

etc, Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:07 (five years ago) Permalink

lyrical passages on this album that i find genuinely affecting, which is kinda weird seeing as they were written by freakin pete wentz

i find them almost more affecting because they were written by freakin pete wentz? the dude's a part-time punchline and he has this finely finely honed ability to capture these moments of being trapped in the tangle of your emotions and your reason and your behaviour and your justifications, and the consciousness of absurdity saves it from being just self-pity.

Why did this album fail commercially / on the radio - bad choice of singles, moment passing, or ...?

there is something dense and close about this album which makes it almost off-putting? 'cork tree' is so light and airy by comparison. but mostly i think it was moment-passing stuff: something else has taken that spot, of being popularly disrespected* and highly beloved.

* you can't even say 'critically underloved' bcz there are people like Maura Johnston etc who've consistently repped, but there is a general alt-rock consensus that this stuff isn't worthy of respect, and that reputation has lasted while the massive crowd of kids who loved it despite have dwindled or moved on.

marcus junius ubiquitus (c sharp major), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I get the feeling that e.g. the last MCR album did better than Folie? No evidence to back this up though. I'd just assumed the large generational cohort behind the popularity of their prior two albums would have seen them comfortably coast decent numbers for Folie (cf this Nitsuh column), but no dice.

(ps: DJP to thread! I remember you enjoying Patrick Stump's solo work - did you dip back into FoB?)

etc, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Hm, I still think "Coffee's for Closers" is the best thing on here but there's some good stuff. Not sure what to make of the production or some of the stylistic fusions.

Also, this doesn't seem to suggest that this was exactly a commercial failure, at least in the US, although it marked a drop from the sales of the previous albums:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_à_Deux_(album)#Weekly_charts

Cork Tree went 2x platinum, Infinity went 1x platinum, and this went gold.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

(Re drop in sales, I'm guessing other people agreed with me about this:

Not sure what to make of the production or some of the stylistic fusions.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:21 (five years ago) Permalink

it was a total failure commercially, yeah. if you look at the chart performance of the singles, i feel like there's a really clear arc of them doing well on rock radio, then pop radio too, then rock radio kind of abandoning them as 'too pop' and pop radio moving shortly after, so they went from crossover stars to not particularly welcome on either side of the gap in record time.

but yes, amazing album, still listen to it all the time. will have to think about my vote.

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:26 (five years ago) Permalink

"20 dollar nosebleed" is a cool horns & piano pop song

which sort of launches from the style of panic at the disco's pretty. odd / brendan urie guests on that particular track. kind of a neat synergistic fbr moment

― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, February 3, 2012 10:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw this is bull, it's in the exact same style as the (also great) last song on Infinity, fuck PATD anyway

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:28 (five years ago) Permalink

dude pretty. odd is awesome but okay

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:38 (five years ago) Permalink

i mean yeah that last song on infinity had horns and shit, i just feel "20 dollar nose bleed" way more inhabits a beatles-esque pop thing, a mode that panic were also working in at the time

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i just don't want to give PATD credit for anything, h8 them always

although maybe not as much lately as Gym Class Heroes and Cobra Starship. why is Stump like the only Decaydance alumnus that couldn't score a big pop hit last year?

some dude, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink

the cobra starship and gym class heroes records that were practically half-written by stump (viva la cobra and the quilt respectively) are both great, incidentally. and the other half of the quilt is written by terius.

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:46 (five years ago) Permalink

ok we should stay on the topic of FOB, i like you and don't enjoy seeing you suffer the shame of outing yourself as a Travie McCoy stan

some dude, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:47 (five years ago) Permalink

dude as soon as both bands disentangled from patrick stump production they became irredeemably terrible

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

dom used to rep hard for this yeah? rip dom. anyway this (and the band) are prob one of my top 10 albums/acts of the 00s

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

dom started the 'infinity on high' thread IIRC

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm begging you, stop before you say the first Tyga album was 'slept on' (xpost)

some dude, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:12 (five years ago) Permalink

j0rdan, if you still haven't gotten around to From Under the Cork Tree I will :/ at you.

I mean, Folie a Deux is great and so is Infinity On High (probably better than Cork Tree, esp. at the pop fusion stuff they do here), but it's a three-album-run of greatness. Not two.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:20 (five years ago) Permalink

and this will be a tough call.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:21 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i realized yesterday that i still need to do that

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:21 (five years ago) Permalink

:/

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

'the ribbon on my wrist says do not open before christmas'

'we only good 'cause you can have almost famous friends / besides, we've got such good fashion sense'

& other histrionic gems.

it's wentz before he toned it down.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:30 (five years ago) Permalink

cork tree is cool but it's my least favorite of their albums

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

also it's totally a four album run

can't think of a pop punk album more tightly constructed than take this to your grave

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I actually haven't heard take this to your grave

Feel free to :/

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

:/

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i still have this on my itunes :S

'what a catch' almost w/o hesitation but now im thinking mb i should relisten to it

Lamp, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

blows my mind that there's a rock song w/ Lil Wayne on it that's actually pretty great

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Jay-Z intro to Infinity On High is another awesome/bizarre moment...

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:50 (five years ago) Permalink

that Jay cameo being so awkward and half-assed is the reason why the Wayne cameo surprised me

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:57 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/CJbCk.jpg

barthes simpson, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Well yeah, the Wayne cameo is obviously far superior.

I only realized this morning that Pharrell produced Folie à Deux.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:04 (five years ago) Permalink

he only did "w.a.m.s."

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Pretty great Debbie Harry AND Lil Wayne cameos on this (compared to, I guess, Liza Minnelli turning up on Black Parade?)

etc, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:30 (five years ago) Permalink

he only did "w.a.m.s."

Ah, OK. You're right. I was reading an old review of the record this morning that seemed to imply he did the whole thing.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:45 (five years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

it was an extreme pleasure to discover the two "new" tracks on the believers never die comp, which i had never listened to before, are as good as anything on folie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw3rOMVQp1o

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:26 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

guys

markers, Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:24 (four years ago) Permalink

time doesn't care about anyone or anything

markers, Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:24 (four years ago) Permalink

I WILL NEVER BELIEVE IN ANYTHING AGAIN

markers, Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:25 (four years ago) Permalink

otm

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 August 2013 21:26 (four years ago) Permalink

this is the best album ever

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 August 2013 18:19 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

2013 is my Fall Out Boy discovery year. Finally got to this one. B-b-b-b-b-benzedrine! Oh hell yes!

how's life, Saturday, 14 September 2013 00:52 (four years ago) Permalink

welcome!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 September 2013 01:45 (four years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

ooo baby you're a classic

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 February 2014 18:59 (three years ago) Permalink

blows my mind that there's a rock song w/ Lil Wayne on it that's actually pretty great

otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:00 (three years ago) Permalink

ilm stanning for this album is truly one of its shining moments

een, Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:11 (three years ago) Permalink

being acknowledged by Wentz on twitter and immediately being like YO PETE FOLIE A DEUX WAS A CLASSIC was one of my shining moments of the last few months

scott c-word (some dude), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:24 (three years ago) Permalink

i'm not
a crybaby
i'm
THE
crybaby

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:31 (three years ago) Permalink

"nobody puts baby in the corner" is my favorite song even tho it has some o__O lyrics all over the place... esp the outro

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 10, 2012 9:35 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i can never keep the titles on cork tree straight; is this the one that goes SO WEAR ME LIKE A LOCKET AROUND YOUR THROAT / I'LL WEIGH YOU DOWN I'LL WATCH YOU CHOKE / YOU LOOK SO GOOD IN BLUE / YOU LOOK SOOOOO GOOD IN BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE cuz yeah

i prefer cork to infinity (i don't blame you / for being you / but you can't blame me / for HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATING it) but folie is another thing entirely. singing along to this band is The Most Fun, Ever

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:56 (three years ago) Permalink

yes, yes it is

le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 February 2014 20:51 (three years ago) Permalink

being acknowledged by Wentz on twitter and immediately being like YO PETE FOLIE A DEUX WAS A CLASSIC was one of my shining moments of the last few months

― scott c-word (some dude), Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn, doing the lord's work

een, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:14 (three years ago) Permalink

i almost wrote wentz an email after he posted that sad (well, self-pitying, but it is fall out boy) thing abt folie's reception and the subsequent tour and his solo album and etc.. wish i had. pete! folie a deux! i liked it!

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:21 (three years ago) Permalink

i mean lol patrick stump. fuck pete wentz i guess.

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:21 (three years ago) Permalink

Folie A Deux/Soul Punk is probably my favorite pair of back-to-back albums any one person has made in the last decade, it's really heartbreaking to hear the personal toll the reaction to those albums took on Patrick. at least the FOB comeback was kind of a happy conclusion to that period, but it still galls me that the world not only ignored those albums but actively made him miserable about them.

scott c-word (some dude), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:31 (three years ago) Permalink

terrific album

Ramona, Sunday, 2 February 2014 05:03 (three years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

oh baby, when they made me, they broke the mold
girls used to follow me around when i got cold

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:27 (three years ago) Permalink

destined to bump this thread every two months

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:27 (three years ago) Permalink

I will never believe in anything agaaaAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAiiinn

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:29 (three years ago) Permalink

3 2 1 we go live

take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:33 (three years ago) Permalink

10 whole votes, huh.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:34 (three years ago) Permalink

my body is an orphanage
we take everyone in

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:36 (three years ago) Permalink

are we gonna have some kind of Monumentour fap or multi-show ilx road trip?

some dude, Thursday, 10 April 2014 23:50 (three years ago) Permalink

omg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 April 2014 02:47 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

as soon as we hit the hospital i know we're gonna leave this town
and get new passports and get, get, get, get, get out now

etc, Monday, 12 May 2014 10:30 (three years ago) Permalink

wish i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i don't
just want to be a footnote
in someone else's happiness

difficult listening hour, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:06 (three years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

little girl, you got me staring odd
or was that just a telescopic camera nod

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:49 (three years ago) Permalink

the fact that disloyal order of water buffaloes didn't win this is blasphemous, even if coffee for closers is also pretty fuckin great

ichabron crames (slothroprhymes), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:50 (three years ago) Permalink

so I know nothing about FOB, but I did d/l this album because ILM, and I had Winamp on shuffle and this bombass awesome rock ballad type song comes on and I'm like what the fuck is this, and it was "What a Catch, Donnie". so different than what I had expected.

shoot skag listen to sotl (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:54 (three years ago) Permalink

it's a jam! that's my favorite song on the album

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 November 2014 03:46 (three years ago) Permalink

Wrong album, but since this is the top FOB thead at the moment - I just heard "Snitches and Talkers..." for he first time today. Good song - new fave, actually - but I was struck by the use of the phrase "why put a new address on the same old loneliness" - doesn't that come from a Songs: Ohia track? I thought at first there was some older common origin they both knicked it from, but some quick googling turned up a thread on a MEC forum where Molina had this to say. Made me a bit sad:

These lyrics were stolen from me. I heard it first on the stereo at the Brown Elephant Charity shop in Chicago. I almost dropped the Elton John records I was buying. It really has hurt my feelings that this band has stolen these lyrics. I am owed.

Simon H., Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:08 (three years ago) Permalink

Err, wrong track, it's at the end of "Get Busy Living..."

Simon H., Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:13 (three years ago) Permalink

pete also borrowed a bunch of lyrics from the cold cave dude on infinity on high

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:21 (three years ago) Permalink

really tender detail about the elton john records there. dang

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:21 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

head like a steel trap
wish i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i don't

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 December 2015 22:33 (two years ago) Permalink

...just want to be a footNOTE in someone else's happinesssss

def the best FOB song

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 December 2015 22:35 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

the only thing suicidal here is the door

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:55 (five days ago) Permalink


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