The Very Best of Dionne Warwick

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Not much in the way of Dionne Warwick threads, and no poll that I can see. I assumed she was in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and was amazed to find that she isn't. This seems to be the best compilation available--there's a Rhino double, but this has all the best stuff from that one, plus "Then Came You."

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Walk On By 11
Anyone Who Had a Heart 5
(Theme From) Valley of the Dolls 4
Don't Make Me Over 3
Then Came You 3
Trains and Boats and Planes 2
I'll Never Fall in Love Again 2
Do You Know the Way to San Jose 2
You There (With Another Girl) 1
Message to Michael 0
This Girl's in Love with You 0
Promises, Promises 0
I Say a Little Prayer 0
Reach Out for Me 0
Alfie 0
The Windows of the World 0


clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:07 (seven years ago) link

i have a zillion dionne best-ofs, I should root through & see if there's anything that ticks more boxes. i skimmed to find i smiled yesterday, which is maybe one of those things i just love most because it hit me more recently than the others. but so many. the first few on this lp are just orchestrally so heavy

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:09 (seven years ago) link

This is the compilation I have, one that came out in the mid-'70s on Polydor; I count it as one of my 10 favourite albums.

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/6d16b67f3bca942d99b95c4c228ff8ed/173948.jpg

Same flaw--no "Then Came You." Anyway, "Walk On By" will probably win, but not necessarily. There's just so much there.

(Discogs lists 61 compilations of her stuff!)

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:11 (seven years ago) link

I'm a big fan of her late 70s/early 80s period too. Sad it's not covered here. Even so, tough to narrow this list down to one favorite. She's amazing.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:12 (seven years ago) link

I love Dionne Warwick! I voted "Do You Know the Way to San Jose" because it was stuck in my head for like 6 weeks.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:14 (seven years ago) link

Maybe longer.

I love her songs on the Love Machine soundtrack!!!

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:14 (seven years ago) link

I don't think it will get many votes but I always loved the theme for the Valley of the Dolls so that was my choice.

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:14 (seven years ago) link

Voted "Then Came You". It's such a springtime song!

the 70s/80s just make me think of her duets, which i never dug at all; is there anything in particular you'd rep for, JF? i just know little bits

i always liked the green grass starts to grow, but that was just '70, & on the same rec as message to michael apparently

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:17 (seven years ago) link

"anyone who had a heart" although the "valley of the dolls" theme is equally excellent.

riboflavin flavored (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:20 (seven years ago) link

The first four are a flawless pop sequence; if I had to, I'd choose "Don't Make Mover." Then "Then Came You," the pinnacle of machine-tooled seventies R&B.

I do miss "Heartbreaker."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:22 (seven years ago) link

i'm getting restless waiting for aerosmith to find this thread.

riboflavin flavored (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:22 (seven years ago) link

"Walk On By" was my default Bacharach/David/Warwick classic for years, but I may vote "Don't Make Me Over" or "Anyone Who Had a Heart" here.

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:23 (seven years ago) link

xp so he can vote for "alfie" and put it over the top.

riboflavin flavored (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:23 (seven years ago) link

I'll vote for one of the three big late-'60s hits ("Say a Little Prayer"/"San Jose"/"Never Fall in Love Again"), but I'm not sure which. I do think Aretha's "Say a Little Prayer" is even better.

The Love Machine's maybe my favourite awful movie ever. It was out of circulation for a long time, but I see it's available again. Must buy! I can hear Dionne's voice in my head: "That Robin Stone..."

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:24 (seven years ago) link

...he's moving on

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:25 (seven years ago) link

i'm getting restless waiting for aerosmith to find this thread.

― riboflavin flavored (get bent), Monday, January 30, 2012

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:27 (seven years ago) link

I wonder if Dionne ever heard the Stranglers' version of Walk On By?

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:28 (seven years ago) link

1979: "I'll Never Love This Way Again" "Déjà Vu"
1980: "We Never Said Goodbye" "No Night So Long"
1982: "All the Love in the World" "Heartbreaker (w/ Bee Gees)"
1983: "Got a Date"

many xps

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:30 (seven years ago) link

Just to clarify, here's the album:

http://tb1.mixcloud.com/w/300/h/300/q/85/upload/images/extaudio/7d229667-d73b-4c6b-8c49-ff141b58309e.jpg

It's also Rhino, and came out in 2000.

(Sadly, I was trying to remember the second half of that Love Machine lyric and couldn't, hence the ellipsis.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:33 (seven years ago) link

anyone who had a heart

ENBB, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:34 (seven years ago) link

Anyone Who Had a Heart, then Do You Know the Way to San Jose, I Say a Little Prayer

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:36 (seven years ago) link

anyone who had a heart

i've never heard a bad version of this song (i'm sure they're out there, but i've never heard one). dusty's is my favorite, but this thread's not about dusty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5u1yhXioYc

riboflavin flavored (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:37 (seven years ago) link

aero is superb on "I'll Never Love This Way Again."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:37 (seven years ago) link

The first four are a flawless pop sequence

i would absolutely include the fifth in this as well

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:38 (seven years ago) link

does anyone else remember

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Then_Came_You_(TV_series)

textile in thighville (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:42 (seven years ago) link

Man, those high parts on "Don't Make Me Over" are awesome.

timellison, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:44 (seven years ago) link

xp -- that's a new one on me, when was it on?

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:48 (seven years ago) link

Then Came You is a half-hour sitcom that aired on ABC for two months from March 22, 2000 to April 26, 2000.

textile in thighville (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:50 (seven years ago) link

I pay too much mind to things like the Rock and Roll HOF, but again, I find it puzzling that Warwick isn't in there. Not because she's someone who's great and has been overlooked--that applies to numerous people. It's more that she just seems to fit a certain type from the early/mid-'60s who does get inducted so well. Gene Pitney's in there, Dusty Springfield, the Ronettes, the Shirelles, Del Shannon...they're all great, but I don't know on what basis they're in and Dionne Warwick isn't. I guess she's more "pop" than them, but I don't know, is that really the reason? I don't get it.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:55 (seven years ago) link

That does seem like a reasonable guess.

timellison, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:56 (seven years ago) link

she has the taint of "that's what friends are for"?

textile in thighville (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:03 (seven years ago) link

Why did it stick to her and not Elton?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:04 (seven years ago) link

If anything, I'd say she has the taint of Psychic Hotline tv commercials.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:04 (seven years ago) link

elton has other taints.

textile in thighville (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:05 (seven years ago) link

The three people who sang it with her are all in...moot point with two of them, but to me, Dionne Warwick before Gladys Knight easily.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:06 (seven years ago) link

I'm sure she'll get inducted into the Rock and Roll HOF eventually. They usually round out the list with a couple of names they bypassed other years. This year it's Laura Nyro's turn.

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:09 (seven years ago) link

She exudes a tacky supper-club vibe, always has; she evokes pre-rock "values." It's easier for the R&R gerontocracy to keep her luminous performances without thinking about her much.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:10 (seven years ago) link

yeah, hard to see the r&r hall of fame inducting her. is bacharach even in the r&r hall of fame?

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:11 (seven years ago) link

probably going to vote walk on by btw

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:11 (seven years ago) link

Amazing--was just about to link to the exact same article.

"Then again, last year Wanda Jackson, who recorded for Capitol, was inducted while Warwick still waits. I’d love to hear the explanation for that." Here here.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:18 (seven years ago) link

I was just about to post that Bacharach link myself. I just automatically assumed he was in. That's insane.

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:19 (seven years ago) link

i don't think bacharach/david/warwick had much to do with rock n roll really -- and they'd probably agree, right? not a bad thing. i mean, i don't really care, the hall is pretty dumb.

tylerw, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:20 (seven years ago) link

I don't really care about the Hall either but it doesn't make sense that they'd induct Dusty Springfield and not Warwick.

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:25 (seven years ago) link

It's a whole separate thread, but you have to approach the Rock and Rock Hall of Fame in terms of the audience, not so much the music itself--something is rock and roll simply by virtue of it being listened to by the rock and roll audience, the people who listened to the radio and bought records, and in the '60s, that was as true of Dionne Warwick as anybody else. Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, James Taylor, and lots of other people who don't play rock and roll are in the HOF.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:29 (seven years ago) link

"The Rock and Rock Hall of Fame"--just one member, Kid Rock.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:30 (seven years ago) link

hmm, no tom jones either -- although there's a collaboration with jack white coming out, and "jack white" seems to be the litmus test w/r/t the current hall of fame.

textile in thighville (get bent), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:40 (seven years ago) link

Tough decision. I voted for Walk on By, but I think Do You Know the Way to San Jose doesn't get nearly as much love as it deserves. I Say A Little Prayer was also a contender. That's one of those songs I can actually say I have loved for most of my life, going back to when it was still new. Another favorite of mine, missing from this list: You'll Never Get to Heaven if you Break My Heart.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:59 (seven years ago) link

I decided to consider "Then Came You" a Spinners song, too, so I wouldn't have to consider it for this poll. (I just caught part of it on my lunch break, incidentally.)

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:01 (seven years ago) link

Anyway, the Dionne Warwick Collection gives a slightly more generous serving of her songs.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:02 (seven years ago) link

Walk on By might be my favorite Bacharach tune as well, though I'd probably be hesitant to say that if I went and looked at a decent list of his hits.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:07 (seven years ago) link

"Don't Make Me Over" slays me most nowadays but i cd vote for 10 of these.

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:57 (seven years ago) link

Gotta be "Anyone Who Had A Heart". Got me through a collapsed lung IIRC.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:00 (seven years ago) link

Not in the Rock Hall and never been nominated either. My guess is her late 70's/80's Adult Contemporary stuff has hurt her with the nominating committee. But, as someone posted above, yes she should be in. Oh, and Burt Bacharach isn't in there as a songwriter either.

jetfan, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:25 (seven years ago) link

"You There (With Another Girl) (And Me Watching) (And Eventually Joining If That's Cool)"

‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:49 (seven years ago) link

"Walk On By" but yeah, I could vote for any of them. I think of other singers on some of these more than Dionne, though, e.g. Cilla Black on "Alfie", & Aretha on "I Say A Little Prayer". But Warwick inhabits "Walk On By" with her immensely tense coo on the chorus, dignified tears with sisters to back her up, "don't stop".

Euler, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:53 (seven years ago) link

Neil Tennant admitted in a recent podcast that Cilla Black's "Alfie" is his favorite song.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:56 (seven years ago) link

yeah I love her diction on "without true love we just exist"; she gives an absurd line enough, er, properness (is that a word? I want to say propiety but that's not a word) that I buy it.

Euler, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:59 (seven years ago) link

A number of great choices....Ok narrowed it down to the first 4...flips coin...Ok "Walk on By"

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:59 (seven years ago) link

My desert island Dionne has long been Rhino's Anthology (1962-1969) which includes "This Empty Place" (aka "Sprint [And Then Honky-Tonky] On By"), "You'll Never Get to Heaven (If You Break My Heart)," "I Just Don't Know What to Do With Myself," "(There's) Always Something There to Remind Me," "The April Fools," and my favorite "A House is Not a Home." Nothing in all of jazz has made me suck in gales of air and sent tingles throughout my body as much as the second-to-last sax note in "A House is Not a Home." Give or take a choice slice of DeBarge or Chic, it's my all-time favorite music moment. Absent that, I'm going with "Yo! You There (With Another Girl)?"

And I mean desert island. Nothing evokes the sturm und drang of suburbia for gay boys better than Dionne. She makes shag carpeting and oil rain lamps feel like a Maria Montez Dance of Death. On a strictly greatest hits level, I prefer her to Dusty, Aretha, even The Shirelles (barely).

Although Aretha's "The April Fools" > Dionne's (but not by much!)

But Dionne's "Alfie" >> Cilla Black's (too Broadway)

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:53 (seven years ago) link

That Rhino set is ace. I've got the other version alluded to in that review. And both miss some later obscure gems like "Odds & Ends", "Paper Mache" and "Check-Out Time", which are on Rhino's great Bacharach box.

Lady Writer, Male Seether (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:21 (seven years ago) link

You know, I said this upthread, but as much as I want to love this poll it doesn't include "Heartbreaker."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:53 (seven years ago) link

I think we have another meaning-of-Rod-Stewart argument on our hands there.

clemenza, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:48 (seven years ago) link

This might be one of the hardest polls on ILM! Probably Anyone Who Had a Heart but only because A House Is Not A Home isn't on here. But easily could've choosen others different years ago. I discovered her in junior high and that was the moment I discovered Pop music.

JacobSanders, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:12 (seven years ago) link

Wishing I had Dionne records to play right now!

JacobSanders, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:13 (seven years ago) link

No "Take It from Me" no credibility

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:45 (seven years ago) link

Hi everybody I would literally saw off my own head for Dionne Warwick

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:22 (seven years ago) link

(but I'm exhausted right now and probably can't go into anything particularly worth reading about why she's so quietly iconic, how completely her work hits that axis where craft and feeling collide in the listener and find full expression there i.e. how she is perfect at pop music. I voted "Then Came You" for personal reasons; "I never knew love before. Then came you" devastates me every time I hear it. I think Dionne's as good as Diana Ross, which for me is like saying "she's as good as it gets.")

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:27 (seven years ago) link

god, i fucking adore "move me no mountain" and "we'll burn our bridges behind us" but early 70s dionne is heavily underrepresented here so i guess i'll vote "then came you" by default

cock chirea, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:44 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:01 (seven years ago) link

Hard to beat "Walk On By" in any poll, but the non-Romneys--I mean the non-"Walk On By"s--got exactly twice as many votes. I voted for "I'll Never Fall in Love Again."

clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:59 (seven years ago) link

I think the HOF should wait on Bacharach and Warwick. Leave the magic alone!!

four years pass...

“Legendary singer Dionne Warwick was in Cannes this morning to unveil a new biopic about her life,” reports Deadline‘s Nancy Tartaglione. “Dionne will star Grammy-winner LeToya Luckett (Destiny’s Child) as Warwick; Danny Glover as her father; Olympia Dukakis as Marlene Dietrich; and Lady Gaga as Cilla Black who Warwick today called her ‘nemesis.’ Mario Van Peebles is in talks to direct with shooting to begin in October.”

Update from Ramin Setoodeh in Variety: “‘Lady Gaga is not attached and will not appear in the project,’ her publicist said. ‘Reports of Gaga starring in the project are false.'”

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:07 (three years ago) link

my vow to avoid biopics at all cost remains firmly in place

howboutz Streep as Flo Foster Jenkins?

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 13 May 2016 18:36 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

A catalog of exquisite clarity. She's like an Ozu film in human form.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2019 02:04 (four months ago) link

She is the only person in this world that would leave me star-struck

flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 12 July 2019 02:12 (four months ago) link

lover power, say

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 July 2019 02:18 (four months ago) link

beyond reproach

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 12 July 2019 04:18 (four months ago) link

Was that the title of a Bacharach/Costello collabo that was written for her?

Vini C. Riley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 12 July 2019 05:03 (four months ago) link


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