lol so to completely contradict what I just said re: Liturgy, the thing I dug the most about the song that placed on the track countdown was the shoegazy outro; interested to hear if that sensibility runs through other songs on the album
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
seandalai: I've only heard the Joy Formidable album once, but my guess is that if you didn't like "Whirring," you won't like the album.
― jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
My biggest problem with that Liturgy (and most black metal) is the quality of sound. If I'm in a metal mood then I want to listen to it LOUD, but this stuff is best set at like 2 on the volume knob, otherwise its completely blown out.
― Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't vote for Joy Formidable, but it has its moments. It's a crying shame that only Yuck and JF contend in the British hard-rock (non-punk/metal) stakes these days. But where Yuck are hazy and nostalgic, I hear JF as being big and powerful (love that guitar sound). I don't know which nineties rock band I'd be tempted to compare them with - part of me wants to say early Manics without the lyrics. Anyway, the album's got maybe 4 good songs, the rest is a bit forgettable. I still love A Heavy Abacus, particularly that Glastonbury performance.
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
I should give The Joy Formidable another chance. Didn't love the track we covered at Jukebox but it seems to be one of the consensus picks of indie rock this year.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't heard any of these... The Joy Formidable tracks on the poll were alright I suppose. I also remembered that they were on Conan one night last year.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
I really like the Joy Formidable's huge walls of screeching guitars but the songs themselves I can take or leave. Surprised that album wasn't higher, I thought they had a committed following on here.
― Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
Is it weird that the first song at least is coming across to me like a harder-edge School of Seven Bells?
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
love the last track on the joy formidable album a lot
http://youtu.be/84yRe--OJ00
― pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
Joy Formidable remind me of that era between Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie when the Pumpkins were still figuring out just how big of an arena band they wanted to become.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
JF and liturgy both on my ballot :D
― donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
love that liturgy album.
I think the issue I have with a lot of how black metal is constructed/presented is that it's a LOT of effort put into playing what is ultimately a relatively simple song/melody; like on this first track, everything is played on like 32nd notes but it's all subdivision of a really really really simple tune that's not particularly interesting or impressive, so my end reaction is "eh, why bother with all that?"
what's wrong with a simple melody/progression? it's all about execution, and the major chords + huge wash of sound guitars + the rubato-but-still-in-tempo drumming approach really works for me.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
another album that's good in small doses.
― skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
I have a feeling JF will go supernova on their next album - what's to stop them?
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
though i wish the joy formidable album didn't have the one song where the dude sings. it's really boring and i don't know why they bothered.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
Re: The Joy Formidable The four songs reprised from the 2009's A Balloon Called Moaning EP were sharper in their "original" version. The album production veers too far into stadium-rock for its own good.
Still TJF captures an early 90's sound like few bands since. Think Tanya Donelly of Belly fronting gazy lads like Swervedriver. Pure nostalgia treat for me.
― Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
I saw Joy Formidable live in 2010. They weren't for me, and what I've heard by them since has confirmed this several times over.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
they need to replace all that guitar work with keane style pianos
― nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
The four songs reprised from the 2009's A Balloon Called Moaning EP were sharper in their "original" version.
maybe it's because i heard the album before the ep but i don't agree with this at all, would much rather hear the album versions which are humongous. "whirring" esp. on the ep just seems like a rough draft to me.
― donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
Joy Formidable still suffers from a bit of a marketing problem, I think -- terrible band name, overzealous inane tweeting (imo), not mysterious enough --> can add up to "blah" for some people. Still, I like their sound and I think Ritzy has a lovely voice well suited for this type of music.
― La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:15 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm even the non-metal ppl should listen to "generation" because you'll either love it or be driven insane by it.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one
yeah it's definitely the high point, even though it's a one-off and not really "what they do". so good.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
btw i know i can't complain since i ignored all the nominations stuff, but i'm pretty sure none of my favorite albums from this year were even nominated (except for liturgy).
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
imo the drummer is the star on that Liturgy record
― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.― congratulations (n/a), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:15 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkotm even the non-metal ppl should listen to "generation" because you'll either love it or be driven insane by it.― call all destroyer, Monday, January 30, 2012 5:18 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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Happen to be listening to this now and it's not bad at all...the rest of the album (so far) is interesting enough but exhausting for my ears.
― two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
Is the name an anagram for something or just German?
― jaymc, Monday, January 30, 2012
Robag's real name is Gabor
― Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link
That's great! The thing is, you glossed over the more important "not particularly interesting or impressive" qualifier to focus somewhat unfairly on the "really simple tune" part. I'm not convinced by the presentation more than anything else.
btw listening to "Generation" right now and already from the get-go this is way more my type of thing
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
Not really that taken with robag as a producer, though he can be a great DJ. LP passed me by
― Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
granted i dont listen to a lot of metal, but the speed at which he hits the snare drum in that first song just blows my mind
― ☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
also: Ritzy = Oh so cuet.
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, Liturgy is reminding me of Monty Python's "Death of Mary Queen of Scots" sketch.
BANG WALLOP RATTLE SCREECH"ah think she's deid""no i'm not"BANG WALLOP RATTLE SCREECH
― mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
...but, um, not without merit...
Listened to about 75% of the tracks poll, not going to do that with LPs will just comment on anything I've actually heard
― Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/dRes5.jpg
73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne (266 points, 10 votes)
P4K: 21P&J: 3
Spotify
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
IT'S PROVOCATIVE!
― pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
:D
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
Lololololol
― Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
Surprised that didn't place higher.
― Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
I still haven't heard WTT. I didn't like the Diddy record or MBDTF very much, so I'm kind of sceptical about this one... Do you guyses reckon I should give it a go?
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
yes
also still haven't heard this
― donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
Listening to the Liturgy album again and enjoying it a lot more this time round. Aside from the more experimental sounding tracks (which are great!), one good thing about it is the (relatively) short song length instead of all that epic-build fannydangle that dogs a lot of black metal.
― Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
When I finally got around to hearing WTT, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Really wasn't expecting much from it.
― Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost okay - think i have it knocking around so I'll try it.
― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
what a terrible album cover!
― skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
wow, really surprised WTT isn't higher. Thought it'd be like top 20
― I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
At least listen to "No Church In The Wild", "Ni**as In Paris" and "New Day".
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
there's some pretty good stuff on 'watch the throne' and it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff, but a lot of the time the rapping just isn't all that great
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
never change ilm
― prolego, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link