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She's getting all the hype and it seems her thing is to rap on top of electronic songs (lazy jay, lone, machinedrum, jimmy edgar). She'll be releasing her debut album later this year. Will she rise or will she flop?

Moka, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 09:13 (five years ago) Permalink

If she can throw together more stuff that sounds as interesting as 212, then yeah, I think she'll do just fine. I guess we'll have to wait and find out.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 09:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Has there really not been an Azealia thread before now?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 09:59 (five years ago) Permalink

ILX was down when she started taking off

billstevejim, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:16 (five years ago) Permalink

May as well put this here:

http://soundcloud.com/azealia-banks/needsumluv-sxlnd

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:26 (five years ago) Permalink

(I like it a lot!)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:27 (five years ago) Permalink

i am not sure about that :/

(or indeed anything other than "212")

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:24 (five years ago) Permalink

Haha I'd almost prefer it if I never heard from/of Azealia again, and I like "212".

Or if she basically had a career like Slarta John or Richie Dan.

That'd be just fine.

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Haha I'd almost prefer it if I never heard from/of Azealia again, and I like "212".

yeah! also applies to LDR/"Video Games" and Kreayshawn/"Gucci Gucci"

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Also I sorta resent Azealia hype because, like, where were all of these fuckers for Lady Stush?

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:42 (five years ago) Permalink

or reema major this year! a lot of the time when i see people wetting themselves over azealia, i think, yall need to expand your horizons and stop reading the same blogs as everyone else

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Lady Stush and Azealia aren't exactly similar though.

Or if she basically had a career like Slarta John or Richie Dan

^^^ Yes this. Given the people involved in her career and the sort of audience she's courting it's more likely that they could fuck it up completely and she could end up with some hamfisted try-to-please-everyone-actually-please-no-one Lady Sovereign career.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Lady Sovereign is a good reference point actually. Though obv they don't actually sound alike.

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:53 (five years ago) Permalink

i still think kid sister is the closest ref point for az banks - she's kind of like a kid sis who hit at the right time

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:54 (five years ago) Permalink

and i think that line about "i am the young sis, the beacon" in "212" is shade directed at kid sis ;_;

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah I'd say Kid Sister works best as a sonic comparison (the big slab of dancehall influence in Lady Stush separates her from this conversation for me), Lady Sov as an example of where/how her career might go wrong.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 12:18 (five years ago) Permalink

lol i was just gonna make a crack yesterday about it just being about the time for moka to start a thread about azealia banks

tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 18:32 (five years ago) Permalink

good thing she started it first

dayo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 18:46 (five years ago) Permalink

living the dream: http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/18/azealia-banks-signs-to-universal/

Angrrau Birds (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 21:36 (five years ago) Permalink

I love they say she's not a one trick pony, yet every track she released in 2011 was just her performing on top of a song that already existed. That's exactly ONE trick.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 21:40 (five years ago) Permalink

that's not really a 'trick,' that's just something a lot of new artists do, especially rappers, whether you think that's a valid measure of their talent or creativity or not. obviously that's probably not what she's going to do on her major label album anyway.

Planned Perrintweet (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I'm sure whatever turns up on her album will be created solely for her with her in the loop of the process. Look forward to it, tbh.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 22:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Hmm, so there's this thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQeOoNrqDs

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Friday, 20 January 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

It's not bad, but I feel like I've heard tracks before where it's just somebody chatting up somebody else over a beat. From what I understand, though, this was just made to be runway music.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I swooned over "212" too, and notice I really don't have any other nasty female rap on 125-130 BPM house beats, which is a pretty natural environment. Not asking for a derail, but I'd appreciate a few pointers to Bank's precursors.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Friday, 20 January 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^^^

lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

You can recognize them by their buffalo stance

this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 January 2012 20:55 (five years ago) Permalink

@Sanpaku -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDExY9TK9Ow

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:09 (five years ago) Permalink

ur also looking for Missy really.

this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

aren't we all

@51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

difference is between those of us who are willing to accept substitutes, i suppose

@51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Dude cmon, she's sitting RIGHT THERE

this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Some clarification, I'm not looking for more nasty female rap with hip-hop backings, there's no shortage of that. I'm curious about nasty female rap over 125-130 bpm 4-on-the-floor house ala "212".

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:16 (five years ago) Permalink

"4 My People" is only 118 bpms :(

@51TimesNo (some dude), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:20 (five years ago) Permalink

i swear i was just posting that

this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:21 (five years ago) Permalink

FWIW, I think AB is interesting because of the ease with which she crossed that ethnic/oceanic divide on "212", though her other tracks lack that tension of syncopated boast over metronomic propulsion.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:37 (five years ago) Permalink

All prob 130-ish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-g-QimJKlc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIyKcNvJNfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3piv9EFZU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRefxBSRR68

Dunno about nasty tho.

Hope this helps with your blog house mix :'D

jimitheexploder, Friday, 20 January 2012 22:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Thx. I haven't done a mix since my nephew's wedding 14 months ago. Blog house wasn't in favor.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Friday, 20 January 2012 23:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Sanpaku you prolly heard this one - it's not exactly rapping and it's maybe not up your nephew's alley either but what it is is immortal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMvpP9Rq3t4

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:43 (five years ago) Permalink

d-40 otm about 'bambi'

I am that young sis, the beacon, a yardstick (dayo), Saturday, 21 January 2012 03:04 (five years ago) Permalink

tracer otm about 20 fingers

'youve got to lick it before we kick it' is also classic

I Love Pedantry (D-40), Saturday, 21 January 2012 05:35 (five years ago) Permalink

"bambi" =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOXKo90-DNA

Bruce K. Tedesco (zachlyon), Saturday, 21 January 2012 07:05 (five years ago) Permalink

had never heard that Ms Bratt track, ty for posting

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Saturday, 21 January 2012 11:16 (five years ago) Permalink

hearing "SXLND" without AB on top of it made me like it more

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Is this a Hip House thread now? This is an all time favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfQT7etnKg

Moka, Sunday, 29 January 2012 20:49 (five years ago) Permalink

"Club Action" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "212"

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah "Club Action" is one of my favorite songs ever so obviously I prefer it to "212."

also.. http://azealiabanks.atmoapparel.co.uk/

billstevejim, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

willfully ignorant about this person

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:20 (five years ago) Permalink

"Club Action (I Believe In Love)"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

bong

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Dude you're the one who brought race to the conversation I was saying crazy civilized since when is civilized a word that means white people? It didn't cross my mind at all and you wont make me feel like I was being 'accidentally racist' because I wasn't being racist at all. Civilized crazy was a way of saying I dunno 'normal crazy' like a person that says or acts crazy from time to time but not in a menacing way that required psychiatric help.

I don't appreciate you calling me racist when you're the one who was thinking about weird stuff. Get offended from your thoughts all you want but dont fucking spread them on me.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:00 (one year ago) Permalink

ahh the grand ilx tradition of "piling on"

brimstead, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:02 (one year ago) Permalink

when is civilized a word that means white people?

Generally this is how it was used for most of the colonial period where Europe was invading and colonizing other places! I get this is not how you meant it. I am not getting offended by "my own thoughts," I'm pointing out this is generally loaded language when used to refer to classes of people in the United States. If you didn't mean it that way, cool. I meant the language you kept using definitely codes as racist here. I have no idea what your intentions are, but you've made them clear (and then again)

mh 😏, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:08 (one year ago) Permalink

"you're saying stuff that really sounds racist" isn't "omg burn the racist" btw

mh 😏, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:08 (one year ago) Permalink

Ok then next time I'll say crazy-not-crazy

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:09 (one year ago) Permalink

the antonym of civilized is savage. there are definite connotations when you used the term civilized with reference to people of colour in the english language.

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

angsplaining

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

they have a lot to 'splain for

mh 😏, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Even then I see how the word might sound racist but context is important for it to sound racist and you implied terrible things to be honest. In your mind I was saying RZA is cool because he acts white while Azealia acts black. Like wtf you seriously thought that was what i was saying!?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:17 (one year ago) Permalink

not consciously

mh 😏, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:19 (one year ago) Permalink

btw throughout all of this I'm thinking "man, Russell Crowe acted really restrained for an australian" so we all have biases to fight

mh 😏, Friday, 21 October 2016 19:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Not unconsciously either I could have said the same thing about Russell Crowe and you wouldnt be calling me racist. I know what I meant you're not making me feel like I wronged anyone.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:21 (one year ago) Permalink

And no I'm not biased because we dont think in terms of race in my country since we dont have racial struggles. We struggle with economic differences since the middle class is almost nonexistent and sexism (including homophobia in there) I know it's something that might sound unreal to you but yeah here you can be in a room with people of many colors and noone is actively thinking about it. We don't tiptoe around you'll know when someone wants to offend you and I have never in 30 years heard someone angry use racial slurs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:34 (one year ago) Permalink

what magical unicorn of a country are you from that has literally zero racial struggles

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:45 (one year ago) Permalink

also mh no amt of reasoning is going to get through to moka if their definition of racism is "actively thinking about race" and "using racial slurs"

laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Alright then I'm a terrible racist, ban me and get this over with I'm bored with this conversation.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 19:58 (one year ago) Permalink

ok moka you are dumb this isn't a cultural difference

every country has racial struggles. and you're a hispanophone no? trying to think of the spanish speaking country that isn't deeply racist ... can't.

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:04 (one year ago) Permalink

if you're in spain: my dad was called a sudaca when we were on holiday in spain when i was a child

if you're anywhere in latin america: I've heard anti-indigenous slurs in every latin american country I've been in

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:06 (one year ago) Permalink

i just want to say i am sorry my love of five percent slang contributed to this

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:13 (one year ago) Permalink

come on this is better than discussing azealia banks

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Literally anything is better than discussing azealia banks.

If you must know I was born in California, Spanish parents and raised in Mexico.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:18 (one year ago) Permalink

The majority of the race in Mexico is mixed so I honestly don't know anyone who thinks in terms of race in here. Homophobic slurs on the other hand are off the hook and you hear them mostly everyday but they've become so common that they've started to lose their original meaning like most of the other common insults like pendejo cabron pinche and such.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Many pejorative terms stop losing its original meaning depending on the context they're used. When you're already familiar with the person using a word like 'marica' or 'maricon' (originally used as effeminate) isn't particularly offensive depending on the context. In Peru, Mexico and Colombia nowadays it means 'coward' so it's lost its pejorative meaning.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:29 (one year ago) Permalink

oh dear

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:30 (one year ago) Permalink

lol

k3vin k., Friday, 21 October 2016 20:31 (one year ago) Permalink

in chile it is used to mean coward, but also duplicitous, apt to maliciously instigate interpersonal drama. the fact that "gay" is used to mean these things is pejorative

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:31 (one year ago) Permalink

No actually in venezuela or colombia, marica is a substitute for pana or 'dude'. The colombian friends I have all use marica between them without offensive context, 'que ha pasado marica?' is like saying 'what's up dude'. In Mexico it does mean coward so calling someone marica isn't particularly offensive but it does have a more negative connotation.

However really most insults in Spanish act very different than in English... it's not the words in here that are particularly offensive but the way they are used there's literally a popular book about the word 'verga' (cock) which is about all the different meanings insults in Spanish have depending on context.

Per example saying something 'Esta muy verga' literally translates as "it's very penis" but the meaning is actually "this is really cool" however saying "Esta de la verga" which roughly translates as "it's penis-y" means "it's awful".

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:38 (one year ago) Permalink

I've always liked "no me vale verga"

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Like per example... going back to marica. In Mexico it does mean coward but it's not particularly offensive depending on the context. You can say 'Anda no seas marica' which translates as 'come on don't be a coward' but you can say it I dunno to a friend who is scared of doing something like getting on a rollercoaster or whatever. If you say for example "pinche marica" - pinche is another word that can mean a lot of things but it usually stands for low quality... in this instance it means 'fucking' so you're more or less saying 'you fucking pussy' and that's certainly offensive.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

one thing I will take away from this conversation is the phrase "it's penis-y"

¶ (DJP), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Like per example... going back to marica. In Mexico it does mean coward but it's not particularly offensive depending on the context. You can say 'Anda no seas marica' which translates as 'come on don't be a coward' but you can say it I dunno to a friend who is scared of doing something like getting on a rollercoaster or whatever.

this is really common in the anglophone world - I'm from scotland and being told "don't be a poof" because you don't want to go out drinking or get on a roller coast or whatever is extremely common - and is considered offensive.

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:46 (one year ago) Permalink

There's no translation for it so penis-y haha it's penis as an adjective but saying cocky is another meaning in english... spanish would be. 'se cree muy vergas' "he thinks he's the best"

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 October 2016 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/iFYeSMi.gif

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 21 October 2016 22:09 (one year ago) Permalink

bad RYMbre

r|t|c, Saturday, 22 October 2016 10:36 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/UNIdbuU.jpg

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 10 November 2016 10:42 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Well, this was unexpected https://twitter.com/fauxdeity/status/814692805952077824

Dan Worsley, Friday, 30 December 2016 14:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

what in the hell

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 December 2016 17:48 (nine months ago) Permalink

Must be fake her neighbors would have noticed the stench. It would even stick to her skin.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 30 December 2016 17:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

Why would azealia banks be sacrificing chickens?

Treeship, Friday, 30 December 2016 18:20 (nine months ago) Permalink

Why would azealia banks be [XXXXX]?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 December 2016 18:27 (nine months ago) Permalink

my first thought was Santeria

well okay, my first thought was "oh Azealiapaws" but eventually I got to Santeria

¶ (DJP), Friday, 30 December 2016 19:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

she popped a cap in sancho

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 December 2016 20:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C07Zoo9XEAAxFUu.jpg

lmbo @ this in the replies

r|t|c, Friday, 30 December 2016 21:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

hehe

k3vin k., Friday, 30 December 2016 21:58 (nine months ago) Permalink

if you want to listen to rapping over house in a similar vein to Banks but without the unpleasantness of her character, the Tkay Maizda album is a perfect substitute

boxedjoy, Sunday, 1 January 2017 10:18 (nine months ago) Permalink

two months pass...
five months pass...

Playing Ram's Head Live in Baltimore on October 10th; thinking of going.

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 21:32 (one month ago) Permalink

disappointed she's not coming to Vancouver

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 04:15 (one month ago) Permalink


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